[Advanced] Revenge of the Marlfox

[Verbal32]

You're acting like all of this was apparent throughout all of yesterday. It's only today that you stopped "acting".

 

The effects of your trolling do not immediately dissipate upon turning heel.

I don't see how Yates' above post wasn't evident yesterday as well. He wasn't even discussing the thing he did with you....

[Verbal32]

I do not believe you have any business calling me a wolf and I hope if you continue to try to lynch me, someone shoots you to teach you a lesson.

On JN, we'd lynch somebody simply for making this ludicrous statement. :-)

 

Then again, we shoot people on D1 for the lulz, so maybe we aren't a solid representative group for that, heh.

[Yates]

I do not believe you have any business calling me a wolf and I hope if you continue to try to lynch me, someone shoots you to teach you a lesson.

I believe I have valid reasons. I'm actually planning on putting something together the way I did with my Krak/Des read in the other game. There's a reason you're the leading wagon, for what it's worth.

[Andrej]

 

Tom that's not what I'm saying at all so don't try to boil it down to that.

I'm saying you poking Yates specifically in this instance knowing how the last game ended and how he'd likely react is wolfy. You were inciting a negative response when he very likely was ignoring you to avoid that sort of conflict.

So you're just going to ignore my reasoning for doing so?

Kay.

I'm not ignoring your reasons. I acknowledge them but I think at worst him ignoring you can be considered neutral because it's plausible behavior for Yates to do as either alignment. You are characterizing the behavior wrongly and inciting an argument - to put it simply. I don't see how you thought this would be constructive and that is why I think it's wolfy. It's emotional manipulation and you are taking advantage of a situation that would very likely illicit a bad response from Yates. Why would you as a villager basically stack the deck against him from the beginning?

 

Also - I thought Yates other posts were villagery for him.

[Thane Vakarian]

ok, top quiz: Verbal, Yates, Tommy:

 

Who's scum in your opinion? i don't need explanations, just some names. We'll see how far apart all of you are

[Tommyrod]

Why are you still cheerleading anti-town behaviors instead of highlighting them as the unwanted acts they are, Verb? You appear quite content to let town go off the rails.

[Tommyrod]

 

 

Tom that's not what I'm saying at all so don't try to boil it down to that.

I'm saying you poking Yates specifically in this instance knowing how the last game ended and how he'd likely react is wolfy. You were inciting a negative response when he very likely was ignoring you to avoid that sort of conflict.

So you're just going to ignore my reasoning for doing so?

Kay.

I'm not ignoring your reasons. I acknowledge them but I think at worst him ignoring you can be considered neutral because it's plausible behavior for Yates to do as either alignment. You are characterizing the behavior wrongly and inciting an argument - to put it simply. I don't see how you thought this would be constructive and that is why I think it's wolfy. It's emotional manipulation and you are taking advantage of a situation that would very likely illicit a bad response from Yates. Why would you as a villager basically stack the deck against him from the beginning?

 

Also - I thought Yates other posts were villagery for him.

Holy shit is this OBSCENE HYPERBOLE.

 

Just stop.

[Yates]

ok, top quiz: Verbal, Yates, Tommy:

 

Who's scum in your opinion? i don't need explanations, just some names. We'll see how far apart all of you are

Tom

Tom scum flip *could mean* Monster. But I reserve judgement there.

Potentially Arsis

Then I think the rest are in low contributor slots - as is customary for DM.

[Tommyrod]

Jesus Christ you guys are insistent on playing bad today.

 

I have a role and will claim it if needed.

[Andrej]

Every time I've seen tom and aj fight like this it's been v/v btw

Could be.

 

I'm not giving him slack this game though. If I see something I think is questionable I'm going to push him for it. I want him under pressure because I don't want to feel he's untouchable this round. I feel like THEN I'll be able to really read him. What I considered villagery in the past for Tom turn out just to be part of his pro-wolf game.

 

My caution is smart. And maybe a little butthurt lol

[Yates]

Holy [cow] is this OBSCENE HYPERBOLE.

 

Just stop.

LOL

You appear quite content to let town go off the rails.

[Thane Vakarian]

ok Yates, thanks for that. Still waiting on it Tommy/Verbal

[Tommyrod]

You guys are all pushing an ~obvious villager because you're paranoid about me replicating my town game when I'm scum. It's gotten to the point where it's unnecessary and is no longer aiding discussion because actual scum are slipping by doing ~nothing. If you keep pressing me I will eventually claim and then you will look and feel stupid for pushing me due to your own inability to read me when I'm a villager.

 

Golf claps all around.

[Tommyrod]

ok Yates, thanks for that. Still waiting on it Tommy/Verbal

Most scum are likely in the slankers. Arsis is the wolfiest of the active posters.

[Thane Vakarian]

##Berf

 

i want some more. His post was 'hey guys, i'm here and will post something'. Really, something more would be nice. Or not, then we can lynch and get on with it.

[Tommyrod]

##Berf or Arsis or Verb all deserve increased scrutiny.

[Thane Vakarian]

i'm on Berf/Arsis/Verbal ftm

[Yates]

You guys are all pushing an ~obvious villager because you're paranoid about me replicating my town game when I'm scum.

No. I'm pushing you because I think you are NOT an obvious villager. Hally is an obvious villager. Thane, even, is an obvious villager. But you say we are being paranoid about your scum game in one breath while in the other breath you say your wolf game looks exactly like your Town game. You have literally told the thread this. So I have no idea what you want from everyone.

[Thane Vakarian]

could be wrong about Verb, but we'll see about it during the game. 

 

Did Rags turn up somewhere btw?

[Tommyrod]

 

You guys are all pushing an ~obvious villager because you're paranoid about me replicating my town game when I'm scum.

No. I'm pushing you because I think you are NOT an obvious villager. Hally is an obvious villager. Thane, even, is an obvious villager. But you say we are being paranoid about your scum game in one breath while in the other breath you say your wolf game looks exactly like your Town game. You have literally told the thread this. So I have no idea what you want from everyone.

Remember what I said about Cory: Bill Nye and Glenn Beck?

 

Similar for me. I'm just disgusted with you.

[Yates]

EBWOP: I have actual reasons for thinking you are scum based on recent history. I'm going to elaborate later, like I said.

[Nynaeve]

 VOTE COUNT

 

 

Team Cuddles (1): Arsis
Tommy (4): AJ, Sili, Des, Lates
Arsis (2): Team Cuddles, Dice

Berf (4): Tommy, monstr, Key, Thane
 

 

Not Voting: The rest of you lot.

 

[Thane Vakarian]

What Tommy wants is for everybody to look for scum. I doubt it's his turn for scum this game, so we indeed should try to find the wolves somewhere in this game. 

[Yates]

I'm just disgusted with you.

Because I think you are a wolf or because of how I handled you early in the game?

[Tommyrod]

EBWOP: I have actual reasons for thinking you are scum based on recent history. I'm going to elaborate later, like I said.

Then you need a new approach altogether since you are absolutely wrong.