Ghost Mafia - 3 out of 33 survive - Town wins!

[WWWwombat]

 

Eternal Phoenix checks the electrical cables again. He follows the cables, looking for any frayed spots or reason why Turin would have had trouble. Logic tells EP that a shock could have easily knocked Turin across the room, and as improbable as it sounded, he could have crashed through the window. he could have had cable coiled around him arm and they just pulled around his neck. All of this reasoning seemed much more likely than the presence of a malevolent entity...

 

Unbeknownst to EP, a FLIR camera is pointed in his direction. There is no way for him to know that an image of him suddenly appears upon a hand-hled screen.

 

 

Upon seeing that EP is human (Town), the holder of the camera slips away, no one the wiser.

 

DPR puts stuff in his posts, this suggests that the kill day one was from a human not a ghost...different from Lily's. Can't remember who said it was a ghost kill. 

 

 

Are you serious?  That POV is clearly written to suggest that "EP" is looking for a rational explanation because he is avoiding the reality of the situation; that a malevolent spirit killed Turin.  That's a pretty typical horror trope imo.

[Gabriel Kross]

I haven't even used any strategies this game though so *shrug*

[Ithillian Turambar]

Yes. I think I mentioned you were confirmed Town. And as the scene shows you were trying to make sense of Turin's death I don't think you killed him.

 

But once again my question was to another. I was asking Talya a question. Perhaps you could gain the ability to be quiet sometimes.

 

Seriously. Again I'm rather annoyed - but I'm going to go to bed rather than continue to get wound up.

[Gabriel Kross]

 

 

Eternal Phoenix checks the electrical cables again. He follows the cables, looking for any frayed spots or reason why Turin would have had trouble. Logic tells EP that a shock could have easily knocked Turin across the room, and as improbable as it sounded, he could have crashed through the window. he could have had cable coiled around him arm and they just pulled around his neck. All of this reasoning seemed much more likely than the presence of a malevolent entity...

 

Unbeknownst to EP, a FLIR camera is pointed in his direction. There is no way for him to know that an image of him suddenly appears upon a hand-hled screen.

 

 

Upon seeing that EP is human (Town), the holder of the camera slips away, no one the wiser.

 

DPR puts stuff in his posts, this suggests that the kill day one was from a human not a ghost...different from Lily's. Can't remember who said it was a ghost kill. 

 

 

Are you serious?  That POV is clearly written to suggest that "EP" is looking for a rational explanation because he is avoiding the reality of the situation; that a malevolent spirit killed Turin.  That's a pretty typical horror trope imo.

 

apparently I can't handle the truth

[Red2111]

up to page 50 now.  you lot added 3 more to the total page count i see.

 

thoughts so far.

 

Peace & Cloud are still rubbing as scum.  Vam rocketed to the 3rd spot with his comment.  and Womby supporting a No Lynch just feels dirty in a non sexy way.

 

 

people need to stop trying to figure out the mechanics.  this is a DPR game, you wont figure them out.  go with the info he provides and dont try to guess what happens behind the curtain.  thus, i skimmed the convos for this. 

 

my thoughts - we had a photo taken before we entered the house of all of us, we were all human.  roles didn't go out until after the game game started (ie: we entered the house)  which means one of us was possessed upon entering the house.  this person is the cultafia (deal with it verb) and can both recruit and kill, as the scene thus far reads as a ghost doing the killing.

 

so we need to focus on finding the original possessed person.  right now this nixes EP, and if you believe Ithi, then her and myself.  so i'm requesting everyone that gets a FLIR viewing, to view someoen who hasn't been viewed each day.  we nix the cult leader, they no longer build their numbers and we can then dwindle them down rather than them picking us off.

 

that said, outting who viewed who and used what item is a stupid idea, for the same reasons as it is in a normal game *eyes TGI* all it does is paint a target on your back.  the veiwings are given to us on thread, thats good enough for me as the results are the important bit.

 

 

simliarly, i skimmed all that nonsense grammer talk.  @ Mod - can grammer talk be a PR recieving offense in this game??

 

 

 

notes:

 

#761: EP[/url]: which is why you check the OP to make sure your not dead before posting.  stop lecturing people on how to play.

 

#763: [url=http://www.dragonmount.com/forums/topic/82002-ghost-mafia-game-thread/?p=2910820]Nol[/url]: what he said.  and there is a way to get rid of the Cult;s recruit.  its called killing the Cult leader and backup leader.  once that/those roles go away, the cult loses their recruiting power.

 

#782: Rand: *hisses* ahhh, the english lesson, it burns!!

 

#806: TGI: call me old school, but my skin itches at the thought of people outing the usage of items just for the sake of outing it.  either way, the most important items are the viewing ones, and Wes gives those in a scene.  no need for people to out themselves imo and to do so like Cloud did just looks like trying for town cred.

 

#832: [url=]:  i agree with others, the viewing on you was a good move.  Its not only about the focus today on you, but also from D1.  by clearing you, it got the potential of you being a distraction again today out of the way.  especially with Peace previously setting up the “if he’d not scum 2day he will be 2morrow” lynch on you for D2.

 

#845: [url=]:: after all the discussion over it and Rands burning english lesson you still think it was a freudian slip?  ping-a-ring

 

#877: [url=]: teh engrish, it bruns!!!  *sits in a corner hugging knees to self and rocking back and forth*

 

#895: [url=]: why lily?

 

#905: [url=]: really?!  *smh*  i could roll with a vote on Vam from this post

#915:[url=]: so you start off being non-committal.  everyone is the same scumminess.  then get pressured over fence sitting and hop on the biggest train.  if you agreed with the Rand train, why wait until you’re pressured to say something or vote?

 

[WWWwombat]

Hahahahahahahahahahahaha. 

 

*unsuccessfully tries to hide a smile*

[WWWwombat]

You guys do realize deadline is in just under 15 hours, right?  Why the hell are you trying to start new trains right now?

[Red2111]

@ Mod  i have my vote on Peace.

 

 

@ the Hairy skimming Ape: the BG comment was tongue in cheek and based off crappy old meta, like years old meta.  nice reaching there, but any validity for you calling me scum went away when you FoSd me for casing off Turins train and claiming he was still alive.

 

 

i'll be on later tonight to try and finish catching up, i can roll easily with a Vam lynch but would prefer a Peace or lynch atm  i'll be on before the lynch and will throw my vote on Vam for majority. 

 

as for the Rand lynch, i'm abotu 40% with it.  meaning hes a viable candidate for pressure but not lynching right nwo imo because tehre are better candidates.

 

however, out of the two, i'd prefer Vam over Rand; only because i hate fence sitting and Vams post was nothing but fence sitting and his reaction to the pressure over it was scumtastic.  much more solid than the defense crap people are claiming on Rand.

[DPR]

Current Vote Count:

 

Leelou (1) - Mish

Rand (7) - Wombat, Vam, Hally, Berf, Tina, Crusher, EP

Nolder (4) - Peace, Basel, Darthe, Kronos

Vambram (9) - NotBob, TGlems, Nolder, Rand, Dap, Cloud, Talya, Kae, Ithi

Tina (2) - Verbal, Ape 

Peace (1) - Red

Talya (1) - Leelou

 

With 31 players, it takes 16 to lynch. Deadline is Tuesday, May 21st at  9:00 am EST.

[Red2111]

also, for as many as you lot that have said since D1 "i'd vote Peace" i'm wondering why none of you have?   he's clearly the scummiest person and we have enough who have said "yeah i'd vote him" to get a lynch imo. so i wonder why its so damned hard to get a train started on him.

 

and no i'm not goign to just edit this in; i have to do that cruddy chapicon thing to prove i'm a real person every flipping time and i've gots to go.  bbl.

 

 

also EP:

 

 

How about a fungamefact? Verbal or notbob? both are tempting starting trains. I was thinking, we're going to need some high detective skills for this since anyone can easily claim they did not recieve a role PM and there would be no way to cross check that. Keep a look out on those who slip through the cracks in early game and watch them closely.

 

yes you did call them trains.  check, mate, game over.  now drop the "i didn't say it" crap and move on and be productive, because arguing with you about what you clearly said when you're a confirmed townie gets us no where but distracted.

 

this is the last time i correct you on this as there are more important things to focus on.

[WWWwombat]

Like EP's next hair appointment...

[Ithillian Turambar]

Another prayer answered. He's gone quiet.

 

:sleeps:

[Gabriel Kross]

also, for as many as you lot that have said since D1 "i'd vote Peace" i'm wondering why none of you have?   he's clearly the scummiest person and we have enough who have said "yeah i'd vote him" to get a lynch imo. so i wonder why its so damned hard to get a train started on him.

 

and no i'm not goign to just edit this in; i have to do that cruddy chapicon thing to prove i'm a real person every flipping time and i've gots to go.  bbl.

 

 

also EP:

 

 

How about a fungamefact? Verbal or notbob? both are tempting starting trains. I was thinking, we're going to need some high detective skills for this since anyone can easily claim they did not recieve a role PM and there would be no way to cross check that. Keep a look out on those who slip through the cracks in early game and watch them closely.

 

yes you did call them trains.  check, mate, game over.  now drop the "i didn't say it" crap and move on and be productive, because arguing with you about what you clearly said when you're a confirmed townie gets us no where but distracted.

 

this is the last time i correct you on this as there are more important things to focus on.

then you are clearly misunderstanding what I was saying I was saying starting trains on them was tempting poor wording choice does not making for over-exageration... now I sound like Nol on the whole *slip* debate... I guess pot met kettle this time

[Gabriel Kross]

Another prayer answered. He's gone quiet.

 

:sleeps:

I was busy doing non DM related things.

[Leelou]

 

 

Another prayer answered. He's gone quiet.

 

:sleeps:

I was busy doing non DM related things.

Like cutting your hair?

[Gabriel Kross]

 

 

Another prayer answered. He's gone quiet.

 

:sleeps:

I was busy doing non DM related things.

Like cutting your hair?

 

No like flipping through my 360 games to see what I'd recomened to a friend

[Leelou]

Well I have to go get ready for a date.

 

 

I'll switch back to vam in a little while. I forget that stuff doesn't always move fast here.

[John McClane]

 

I disagree - I think it could be a ghost as well.

 

This. Talya is making me sick.

 

Verbal, Ape, there is no chance of lynching Tina today and I'm sure she knows it. Your votes are completely wasted on her I suggest you switch to either Rand or Vambram.

I know what I'm doing Nerp-a-derp. Relax. At the end of hour 1 I was all over those not voting towards the deadline, and I've been saying all this day phase that I want to make sure we don't miss it. I'm on it. No worries.

 

You guys do realize deadline is in just under 15 hours, right?  Why the hell are you trying to start new trains right now?

Think about it. Okay, then.

 

@ Mod  i have my vote on Peace.

 

 

@ the Hairy skimming Ape: the BG comment was tongue in cheek and based off crappy old meta, like years old meta.  nice reaching there, but any validity for you calling me scum went away when you FoSd me for casing off Turins train and claiming he was still alive.

 

 

i'll be on later tonight to try and finish catching up, i can roll easily with a Vam lynch but would prefer a Peace or lynch atm  i'll be on before the lynch and will throw my vote on Vam for majority. 

 

as for the Rand lynch, i'm abotu 40% with it.  meaning hes a viable candidate for pressure but not lynching right nwo imo because tehre are better candidates.

 

however, out of the two, i'd prefer Vam over Rand; only because i hate fence sitting and Vams post was nothing but fence sitting and his reaction to the pressure over it was scumtastic.  much more solid than the defense crap people are claiming on Rand.

I don't care about crappy old meta, you said what you said. All you are doing here is backpedalling. That's not a reach. It also has zero relationship with me FOSing you for casing off Turins train. In case you forgot, basically everyone was town, yet we all were calling each other scum... does that make every scenario where player A called player B scum on D1 invalid for the rest of the game? 

 

I mean, if you want to really get into it... you are voting PEACE as an extension of things he said and did on hour 1, because he's pretty much been quiet here in hour 2... so, why isn't that considered invalid?

[Nolder]

I'm not going to relax until someone is lynched tbh.

DM mafia has become notorious for leaving lynches right up to the minute and often misses deadlines.

I don't think this is a game where the town can afford to let that happen as often as most people are used to.

[Nolder]

Like, I'm really not seeing the advantage of not moving your votes now if you freely admit you intend to move them anyway.

You guys don't make sense.

And what if your net went out or something? I just got cloudflared for about 20 minutes earlier.

[Tigraine]

Once someone becomes possessed can they possess someone too or is it just the original possessed that can possess?

 

Does that make sense?

[RandA lThor]

 

 

 

Let's analyze Rand's montstrous post that he's so proud of shall we?

 

1.  Admits that he sees what I am saying about telegraphing cases but says that he was worried about getting distracted in such a large game and therefore telegraphed his case to remind himself.  This doesn't hold water for me.  I usually don't reread my own posts.  Furthermore, if I wanted to remind myself of something, I wouldn't bury the reminder in the game thread where I might forget it but the mafia may very well see it.  Rand's explanation is implausible imo.

 

2.  Misinterprets Ape's vote on him to be for making an annoying quote block when clearly, the Ape was voting Rand for the content of the quote (as implied by Ape's expressed interest in anyone who may have followed his Ithi/Verbal lynch suggestions).

 

3.  Pokes fun at and dismisses another couple votes on him.  This seems odd to me.  Seems like he is trying to force a casual attitude towards votesd against him or he needs something to fill out his post.

 

4.  Agrees with my no lynch suggestion, albeit with somewhat convoluted reasoning (this is the only thing about this post I even remotely like).

 

5.  Launches into a bloviating treatise on grammar designed to criticize EP and defend Nolder.  This mammoth paragraph is needlessly verbose as well as incorrect.  Furthermore, he explicitly refuses to summarize it.  I could summarize his point in seven words:  EP sucks at grammar; Nolder didn't slip.  That wasn't so hard was it?  So why doesn't he do this?  Because he wants a mammoth post that looks impressive but says very little other than chastising EP and defending Nolder.  This is further supported by his apparent disappointment at the lack of comments on his post.

 

Rand has now overdefended both EP and Nolder as well as having tried to entangle the alignments of Hallia and Lily with that of Ithi.  Scumtastic.

 

unvote

Vote: Rand

 

 

For those of you wondering as to how exactly Rand's grammatical argument is incorrect, it is because EP's interpretation of Nolder's post was technically correct.  It is true that the suffix -ing can be used to turn a verb into a pure noun, but in this case, such an unambigious interpretation of Nolder's words would be iffy at best.  That is not to say that Nolder did not mean what Rand said he meant.  I don't recall Nolder having impeccable grammar and this is a very minor mistake, so I think to call it a slip is pretty silly.  That being said, it is equally absurd to say that EP's interpretation of Nolder's statement is grammatically incorrect.  In fact, out of context, EP's interpretation is much more likely than Rand's.  The verb "to recruit" already has a noun form ("recruitment") that Nolder could have used in his post without having to resort to the -ing suffix, thereby avoiding any possibility of his noun being interpreted as a gerund.  That being said, I think the context of the sentence makes it clear that Nolder meant for the phrase to be interpreted in the way that Rand interpreted it.  Still, claiming that EP's interpretation is grammatically incorrect is downright false and, in my opinion, qualifies as either overdefense of Nolder, or arrogant ignorance.

 

Also, I'm not sure why Rand says the word "recruiting" is not tied to any other verb or noun in the sentence, as with either Rand's interpretation or EP's interpretation, the word "recruiting" is the object of the verb "stop," but that's not particularly relevant to this game.

1. You're basing it off what you do, I do go back and look at my posts when making a case because I have a tendency to forget things, so it works for me.

 

2. Oh Ok, that's why, I honestly didn't know what that vote was for.

 

3. That was one vote...

 

4. The reasoning helps me think, that made me reach the same conclusion as you.

 

5. No, that was half criticizing EP and half practicing for my SAT because they ask questions like that. :P In all seriousness, I didn't want to do it in your short summarized way because then someone would have just told me either no, or explain why.  Guaranteed.  And please explain to me how it is incorrect.  Wait nevermind you go into it later.

 

Yes, I overdefended the confirmed town and corrected a grammar mistake.  So sorry.

 

And as for the grammar, I should have clarified that recruiting was connected to any noun or pronoun that implied possession.  And plus, even as a verb, "we can stop recruiting" does not imply possession of the recruiting by we.  Thats what I was pointing out was grammatically wrong.

 

I do recall not being a confirmed townie when you over defended me... you're logic is baaaaaad

 

UNVOTE VOTE RAND

 

literally just based on the bolded comment in green in the quote

 

Also this summarizes the 2 biggest cases on Rand, everyone else just followed Wombat mostly

 

I already responded to the grammar one, which I haven't seen a response to yet.  And why would I defend EP, then Nolder from EP?  I'm just putting out my thoughts right now.  And both of the people I defended turned out to be town.  So I'm either mafia that is trying really really hard to get some credit, and even after I caught heat for defending EP, went onto defend Nolder, or I'm town thats just putting my opinions in this game.

 

 

 

 

I think my list as of now is Nolderp, Talya, Tina, of the people actually contributing.

 

Can someone sum up the case on Rand, I was on him on D1, but it seems the reason he's being run up today is different? I don't really trust any reads I have from D1, because I can't remember if I formed those thoughts before or after the mod scenes. Too lazy, and not enough of a sure-thing, to waste time going back and trying to retrace my thinking.

 

Bottom line on Rand is that he indirectly defended Nol when pointing out the "grammar case" EP had on Nol was wrong.  But Wombat responded that EP's case wasn't as much based on technical grammar as it was based on context.  At that point, a train formed.

 

And then Rand proceeded to put his foot in his mouth

 

Ehh, weak, already explained that as well.

 

LOL, good.

 

 

He flicks the switch on the FLIR camera and pans the room. Nothing strikes him as odd as he plays the camera over his fellow investigators.

 

The scene spins around and a wide grin is suddenly displayed on the screen.

 

NOLDER IS HUMAN (TOWN).

 

Unvote

Vote Rand

 

Possible he was defending Nolder because he already knew his alignment.

If he flipped mafia I bet you would say that I was defending a teammate.  Faulty reasoning right there, his flip is a null tell for me.

 

Oh, out of curiosity... Who originally suggested a NO LYNCH, and why?

I think it was Wombat.

[Gabriel Kross]

 

I already responded to the grammar one, which I haven't seen a response to yet.  And why would I defend EP, then Nolder from EP?  I'm just putting out my thoughts right now.  And both of the people I defended turned out to be town.  So I'm either mafia that is trying really really hard to get some credit, and even after I caught heat for defending EP, went onto defend Nolder, or I'm town thats just putting my opinions in this game.

 

Green who knows but that's exactly what you did as you yourself confirm in the red above

 

 

 

I think my list as of now is Nolderp, Talya, Tina, of the people actually contributing.

 

Can someone sum up the case on Rand, I was on him on D1, but it seems the reason he's being run up today is different? I don't really trust any reads I have from D1, because I can't remember if I formed those thoughts before or after the mod scenes. Too lazy, and not enough of a sure-thing, to waste time going back and trying to retrace my thinking.

 

Bottom line on Rand is that he indirectly defended Nol when pointing out the "grammar case" EP had on Nol was wrong.  But Wombat responded that EP's case wasn't as much based on technical grammar as it was based on context.  At that point, a train formed.

 

And then Rand proceeded to put his foot in his mouth

 

Ehh, weak, already explained that as well.

 

I see nowhere where you explained how you defended a confirmed townie after they were confirmed, what you did do is defend 2 people who were recieving heavy amounts of heat who just so happen to later be confirmed town

 

LOL, good.

 

 

He flicks the switch on the FLIR camera and pans the room. Nothing strikes him as odd as he plays the camera over his fellow investigators.

 

The scene spins around and a wide grin is suddenly displayed on the screen.

 

NOLDER IS HUMAN (TOWN).

 

Unvote

Vote Rand

 

Possible he was defending Nolder because he already knew his alignment.

If he flipped mafia I bet you would say that I was defending a teammate.  Faulty reasoning right there, his flip is a null tell for me.

 

WHAT? Flips are NEVER a null tell, Flips always give some information.

 

Oh, out of curiosity... Who originally suggested a NO LYNCH, and why?

I think it was Wombat.

 

actually wrong, it was red in phase 1 wombat suggested it in phase 2

 

[John McClane]

I'm not going to relax until someone is lynched tbh.

DM mafia has become notorious for leaving lynches right up to the minute and often misses deadlines.

I don't think this is a game where the town can afford to let that happen as often as most people are used to.

I know. 

 

Like, I'm really not seeing the advantage of not moving your votes now if you freely admit you intend to move them anyway.

You guys don't make sense.

And what if your net went out or something? I just got cloudflared for about 20 minutes earlier.

You failed to consider I might not do it immediately when you tell me to, because you told me to. Advantage: Ape.

 

GFY

 

And don't thrown that faggy cloudfir crap at me, all you dorks do is whine about that here. STFU

[John McClane]

Once someone becomes possessed can they possess someone too or is it just the original possessed that can possess?

 

Does that make sense?

 

Makes sense, yes. Does it make sense that you'd ask that expecting to get an answer? No.