[Basic]TRON Mafia Game-Day 4

Myndrunner · July 22, 2014

That's what I said.

You guys have hydra chat? What have you been talking about? Why is Hallia quiet? I would prefer she posts more; she's easier to read than you are.

No, we don't have a hydra chat, we've developed psychic powers last spring when we on a get away to the Bahamas. I can also make Hallia orgasm by looking at a can of coke. It's uncanny.

Powerful commentary if true.

Gives new meaning to "Have a coke and a smile!"

Lenlo · July 22, 2014

In tandem meaning we both posted our problems with your case immediately after you posted it? Its not like there was a day's wait between your case and our response's Mynd. You posted your case and we posted our responses to it immediately after we saw it because we, and others, were online at the time. Its amazing how things like that work.

Besides none of that changes how weak the case is in and of itself.

Darthe · July 22, 2014

^Len is prob town here. It's sheerly a valid point and even if it weren't I can't see how what Mynd is arguing could be construed as scummy.

Myndrunner · July 22, 2014

You never actually said any problems with it other than "UM WRONG!!!!" That proves nothing. That is like a scum saying "I'm the miller, I swear!!!" I'm wrong because you say I am wrong. What are you gonna do, tell me I am RIGHT about pointing out such a connection? I don't like your reaction. TG's is worse, but both of you are making a lot out of my casing than you should have. Hence: snakes are rattled.

^Len is prob town here. It's sheerly a valid point and even if it weren't I can't see how what Mynd is arguing could be construed as scummy.

On what planet does this make him prob-town? Dude, you are missing a fun mafia game here. You should actually read it sometime.

csarmi · July 22, 2014

You did, Darthe? Which one of Tommy's post BEFORE you calling him >rand to be town shown any of those things?

Tommyrod · July 22, 2014

Lol Darf

Tyler Glembo · July 22, 2014

Avenue of Productive Discussion.

Day One will almost always result in the lynching of a townie simply because of odds (we all know this). My focus thus far has not been so much on the discussion between Clov, Vos, and RandA. I've been more watching those lurking.

Scum will participate early on just enough and let town lynch town. I have a tendency/prefer to lynch lurkers.

I'm rereading at the moment.

But I will place my vote on either Lenlo or Darthe.

Darthe seems to have not committed to the game just yet.

On the other hand Lenlo interacts with several different posts/players with only fluffy comments. I see more potential here.

[v]Lenlo[/v]

For somebody focusing on inactives there wasn't much analysis or thought here. I'm leaving unimpressed.

Darthe · July 22, 2014

You did, Darthe? Which one of Tommy's post BEFORE you calling him >rand to be town shown any of those things?

I have no clue what you're asking. I literally, like three or four posts ago in an MQ, explained my read on him. Are you being obtuse or did you legitimately not read?

Darthe · July 22, 2014

You never actually said any problems with it other than "UM WRONG!!!!" That proves nothing. That is like a scum saying "I'm the miller, I swear!!!" I'm wrong because you say I am wrong. What are you gonna do, tell me I am RIGHT about pointing out such a connection? I don't like your reaction. TG's is worse, but both of you are making a lot out of my casing than you should have. Hence: snakes are rattled.

^Len is prob town here. It's sheerly a valid point and even if it weren't I can't see how what Mynd is arguing could be construed as scummy.

On what planet does this make him prob-town? Dude, you are missing a fun mafia game here. You should actually read it sometime.

I've read the whole game, GFY. You have no real argument so expect to be called on that. The very fact that you acknowledge that you're "beating the grass" admits that you don't even think your points were valid and yet you go off of that to attack the people who you baited into reacting?

AVM · July 22, 2014

/kicks door open

How the heck you boys doin?!

csarmi · July 22, 2014

You did, Darthe? Which one of Tommy's post BEFORE you calling him >rand to be town shown any of those things?

I have no clue what you're asking. I literally, like three or four posts ago in an MQ, explained my read on him. Are you being obtuse or did you legitimately not read?

I think you bullsh#tted a town lean on Tommy back then. Just when you did that there had been no basis of doing so. He had posted no alignment indicative posts by then. I'll grab the quotes later when I'm from comp but basically he did practically nothing but mini-modding by then.

Oh yea Tommy did show him wim and stuff since THEN but my current take is that you happened to know his alignment or just pulled stuff our of you a$$.

csarmi · July 22, 2014

PACT OF NON-EMOTIONAL INTENT

I, the heresigned, solemnly swear to the best of my ability, that I shall not derail this game with emo breakdowns, ragequitting, intentional modkilling, inciting the ire of others, or otherwise meanspirited posting in a game meant to be fun.

I, the heresigned, solemnly swear to the best of my ability, that I shall not derail this game with my own insecurities, shall not project my own negative emotion onto others, shall not complain about the emotional state of the thread, or otherwise spoil the mood in a game meant to be enjoyable.

I, the heresigned, solemnly swear to the best of my ability, to enjoy playing with a group of rapscallions and remember what it means to have fun focusing on scumhunting or bamboozling rather than drama and exasperation.

On this day, Sunday July the Twentieth, the year Two Thousand and Fourteen.

Signed herein:

Tommyrod

Please sign and pass it on until the entire game has agreed.

BFG and Csarmi...hrmm

I was always told don't trust whitey. I'ma keep my eyes open.

[v]Drunk[/v]

Sign the pact, you scoundrels.

I joined this game because

A) It's small

B) It's basic

C) I like the players

So let's remember not to take things personally and I think we'll have fun.

Vos/nyn/csarmi/rand are all rand to be town

Slight villa lean on tommy

[V] bfg or mayyyyybe DT for today.

Peeps are too quiet itt

Tyler Glembo · July 22, 2014

*****MOD APPROVED EDIT***********I DID MY BEST TO FIX THE QUOTES BUT ALL THESE QUOTES ARE FROM MYND************

I'm taking out a bunch of the nested quotes. You want them, go back and read them.

It has been my experience that most mafia joke-vote each other on D1 as an early distancing technique. Looks a lot like this post below....

TG's response here....playful non-threatening banter.

First, mafia make just as much of a point to random vote D1 just like everybody else. Breadcrumbing your partners with consistent joke votes is stupid and doesn't happen. Second, maybe your head is in the sand but Lenlo and I have been joking with each other for multiple games in a row AND even in the sign-up threads. You'd know that if you were in, say, Hoof Cthulu game, or the sign-up thread, or the sign-up thread for this game. Oh wait, you were but you're ignoring it.

Then, "Real Talk" TG immediately switches to an INACTIVE player? Kronos will later opt-out, but I find this move very questionable this early in the game. It's almost as if he knew Kronos was not active on....say.....a mafia QT as well? Either way, too early to go after an inactive and very scummy to do so.

Kronos vote was an obv RVS vote. Sorry that your sense of humor is broken. I hear they sell them on ebay.

On a serious note, if Kronos was in a QT with me and I desperately needed him for "mad crazy gambits yo", dont' you think I would have called for him there instead of on thread? Ridiculous point is ridiculous.

More lighthearted banter between two players where Lenlo is still voting TG.

Most people who make joke votes kept them there for a couple pages at least. Some are still there. Are all those people scummy?

And now the appeal to Tommy pointing out someone elses early jokiness other than his own.

I'm engaging players because I know my only agenda is scumhunting. What is your agenda?

Appeal to Mynd. Is this guy running for congress?

You call that an appeal? Dude, I like your siggie and we've talked about the dreamer event. I even made meme's about the event in the mafia meme thread. Get your head out of your own narrative and look around once in a while.

Vote TG for Towniest Townie in 2014!!! Seriously, more arse smoochin!

I'm going to call out towniness when I see it.

Darthe seems to be a heat magnet in most games, which makes him an easy target and scapegoat. Darthe has barely posted this game and yet that seems to be enough for TG to consider him among the top 3 wolfiest players in the game? And what happened to Kronos?

(heh. The only GOAT Darthe seems to get is being a scapeGOAT! Hahahaha, I kill me!)

Darthe is wolfie for his BS reads that he popped in with. Show me how he had helped town in any way by the time I made my list.

Also, by applying your own logic to yourself, you must be saying you know Darthe is town with your joke. How would you know that Mynd? Only if you're scum.

Our Goodwill Ambassador of DM Mafia is not going to lynch Drunk Tank for any reason on D1. Isn't that sweet?

No, I'm not.

Then this....which gets NO explanation.

Lenlo, I need your help.

Now, less than 15 minutes later, Lenlo replies. Its almost as if he knew Lenlo was online. Kinda like they were working together in some other form of communication....like say a Mafia QT perhaps? What did TG need help with? A mildly funny gif....one that I believe was hastily used in a desperate attempt to explain why he really needed Lenlo.....to read the mafia QT.

This might be the stupidest thing you said. You're saying I knew Lenlo was online because I posted this. In the next sentence you're saying I needed him to get online to read the QT. So I knew he was online which is why I posted this to try and get him online. Are you taking logic lessons from Despo and Red?

TG has waded in the spam with us for a lot longer in other games. Why the sudden haste? Why the flip-floppy behavior? Guilty conscience? And how is he really pushing any gameplay at this point? Voting an inactive? Kissing everyone's arses?

Yes, and wading through it is soul killing me. It's fun....for a while, but everything in moderation. Hence, some jokes, some gameplay. Sorry you can't understand moderation.

Scum Playbook: When called out for a guilty conscience, downplay its signifigence with a funny gif. Make sure to choose one among the most popular, like an Archer or Anchor Man one. I'm surprised this one doesn't play Danger Zone when you click on it.

TG playbook. When somebody says somethign stupid make a gif to make fun of them about it.

TG gives Nyn the finger and calls her out for giving him a weak FOS. For everyone's convienence, I colored and bolded the part where Nyn gives TGlems an FOS in her quoted quote.

You're a LLwL. I called it a wanna-be FOS. Insinuated without using the words. Nice try. You even used pretty colors to draw attention to how your placing all this into your narrative.

And now, a warning to all of us lowly hethens who DARE consider TGlems as scum because they might have an agenda. Vos is naturally #CHAINLOCKTOWNwithPADLOCK while we should be suspicious of players other than TG if we wanna be decent townies. Read the following and try not to facepalm too much.

TG earlier states that he isn't going to vote Drunk Tank because he's new to DM. Yet he fires off at Rand for calling out Vos for voting him and not knowing his game play. Don't forget, he just finished warning us all that if we want to be decent townies, we need to be suspicious.

Then a defense of Vos which doesn't even begin to consider that Vos is Scummy McVosScum.

Yeah, TG......I have an agenda in this game. It's getting rid of all the scum.

I figure I'd start with you.

I don't know why I'm arguing with you when you're doing such a good job of arguing with yourself. Vos' alignment has nothing to do with Rand being right or not. Rand is wrong on this one. I could be attacking scum for all the wrong reasons. Just because they are scum doesn't make my reasoning better.

And DT being new v. Rand and Vos not knowing playstyles are two completely different things. You're conflating them, badly, to fit your narrative.

And if you actually are town, then you aren't gonna be checking any boxes on your agenda. Terribad case is terribad.

Tyler Glembo · July 22, 2014

Mynd, your scum team is TG and Lenlo? I think TG has some scum equity, but I don't think your "omg they're colluding!" theory you start that case with is very likely.

Often people say "hah did you plan that in scum chat?!" and that's almost never the case. I mean do you seriously plan out conversations in scum chat? I don't.

TG wanting less spam isn't scummy. Him being spammy while also deriding people for not being serious kind of is, though.

I give your case a 4/10. Might be right but probably for the wrong reasons. A lot of what you found scummy is actually semantics.

Except for the "scum equity" this is spot on.

Now I look kinda dumb. Unless we planned this in scum chat!?

Lol.

Unless you happen to be on a TV show about physicist's. I can see it now, a season of the Bachelor requiring a Doctorate from every contestant.

Oh god no.

Scumtwin powers activate! Did you guys.....ahem....plan that tag team in your mafia QT thread?

Statements like "I expected more from you" is exactly what a squirmy scum would say. When we go back to the raw nature of a townie and a scum, townies press for information while scum discredit, distract, and disinform.

It's a knee-jerk scum reaction to try and talk down to a townie who is on to them. They don't want anyone else to actually consider the case as proper.

Also, notice how neither Lenlo nor TG even consider the chance that I am scum and trying to lead a lynch on a townie. Why? Because they know I'm town. How do they know this? They are not.

My case is just that. Mine. The rest of the town can take it or leave it, but I think we've found ourselves TWO scummies already.

Bolded: Are you really trolling yourself here?

As for expecting more from you, I'd expect more whether you're scum or town. If you're scum and want me lynched you should have put together something better. If you're town you should have lifted your head out of the sand and realize how bad what you're saying it.

Myndrunner · July 22, 2014

The TG doth protest too much.

RandA lThor · July 22, 2014

TG, I'm sorry but I honestly can't read that, could you put the quotes back or something?

RandA lThor · July 22, 2014

I'm referring to your first post of the two btw

Tyler Glembo · July 22, 2014

But stay tuned for TG to shred my case to shreds by shredding it!!!! When he gets back from [reason for delay] so he can start shredding!

If it was terribad, why not just say why now?

/me begins to hold breath.

It's called work. I had a meeting and knew it would take time to properly ~~ridicule~~ respond to your "case".

*popcorn*

Wasn't the "popcorn" comment mentioned by Vos earlier about scumtell?

Mynd thinks TG is lock scum. Mynd's case on TG is a bit contrived but TG's reaction to it was bad. Considering I've agreed with Mynd several times so far ITG and I've noticed TG has felt a bit... erratic... I think we might have something here. But more due to unnatural emotional states than the semantics argument Mynd was forwarding.

Scummy follow-on to Mynd's bad case (that you yourself called bad) is scummy. Ping.

Forgot to vote in that MQ [unvote][v]salami[/v]

Solid catch up post Darthe (more the MQ one right before this). I like it.

Tyler Glembo · July 22, 2014

Grass has been beaten and the snakes are hissing!

TG overreacted and got more taint on Lenlo in the process by posting right after him in tandem. A lot of people are just parroting "Mynds case on TG is good, but his connection to Lenlo is bad because.......Tommy said so." At least we all agree.

I am also concerned that Darthe isn't really reading the whole thread. Not sure why he gets a scumread on me without posting anything specific as to why. He missed most of the actual FOS tossed his direction.

No. Tommy called your case a 4/10 and said it was no good. Others have said your case was weak also. You dont' get to make ish up.

Tyler Glembo · July 22, 2014

The TG doth protest too much.

So you agree your case is terribad then.

Tyler Glembo · July 22, 2014

TG, I'm sorry but I honestly can't read that, could you put the quotes back or something?

Rule 8 says no editing.

@MOD

Can I go back and try to fix the messed up quotes in post #338?

Xthrax · July 22, 2014

Yeah, ok

Tyler Glembo · July 22, 2014

Thx.

Drunk Tank · July 22, 2014

I gootta say I'm having a gpretty goood time. The logic may be a litel bit skeetchy but I'm having a laughj.

Myndrunner · July 22, 2014

TG, Tommy also said my case had some legit points as well. How can it be as bad as you claim yet you still think Tommy is town then?

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