The Assault on Tar Valon (and Perrin's battle plan)
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 21, 2006 3:09 pm    Post subject: The Assault on Tar Valon (and Perrin's battle plan) Reply with quote

Has Perrin given the Seanchan their battle plan to take Tar Valon?

I think a water source for the island of Tar Valon is mentioned in Egwenes POV once she has been taken prisoner. Could it be that the same trick will be used...the forkroute in the water and most of the Tower marath-damane unable to do anything?

If the tower were being assaulted, Egwene could summon the rebels to help defend the tower...could this be how the rift in the tower is healed?

How is this going to play out?
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 21, 2006 3:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Unlike the Shaido, all Aes Sedai are aware of what forkroot is, so I don't think they'd be able to get more than a few before suspicions started to arise.

Although, that would make rebuilding the white tower easier, as the rebels would not be effected, so they'd be the ones sweeping in to save the day.
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 21, 2006 7:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I dont see them having long term access to the tower without being detected. An insergent can't get in because the city is sealed to all but Aes Sedai, and if they gain entrance via to'raken i suspect they'll be noticed. No, i think they'll just try and attack by surprise at night.
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 21, 2006 7:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I agree with Luckers. The Seanchan have been flying over Tar Valon and taking notes for about six books now. They've got a battle plan in place already, you just bet on it. And once it goes into action, Egwene will give Elaida a chance to deal with it and the moment she makes a bad decision, Egwene will swoop in and suggest the right course of action. I also think Gawyn will be involved in accepting his orders at that time and will decide to stand with Egwene over Elaida. They'll bring the rebels inside and fight united until Mat turns up with Moiraine and tells them all to calm down.

I also think an air battle would be totally b*tch*ng!
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 22, 2006 12:16 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Finally we will see large scale fighting in a city. Ive been waiting for this since Mat warned Rand against doing it in book 5.
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 22, 2006 12:45 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I know, and what better city than Tar Valon??? It's going to be FANTASTIC!!!
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 22, 2006 1:13 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yep, I just want rivers of blood, oceans of blood! Yes, I am psycho. Twisted Evil
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 22, 2006 1:25 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I just hope he doesn't cover it in a chapter, or something. That would suck.
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 22, 2006 2:54 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Leafburner, u said you can bet on the seanchan already having a battle plan, and im pretty sure this has already been alluded to. dont have books on me atm, but i think in book10-11, Karede (tuon's bodyguard) lets a map roll up that was of tar valon and its when the seeker walks in i think. another reference when suroth says they can take the to'raken to stop ituralde, and karede says not all as some are already committed to a secret assignment. im not entirely sure if people are correct been a while since i read it, but i know that both the events happen
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 22, 2006 6:44 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The Aes Sedai in the tower are keeping watch though. So i think that they would have noticed by now that there are somthings flying over Tar Valon.
They have Aes Sedai out on the walls searching, thats how Egwene was captured, by some Aes Sedai out on patrol. You could think that one happened to feel her channeling, but it would have taken her longer to get to Egwene unless she was already out partroling.
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 22, 2006 7:43 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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They have Aes Sedai out on the walls searching, thats how Egwene was captured, by some Aes Sedai out on patrol. You could think that one happened to feel her channeling, but it would have taken her longer to get to Egwene unless she was already out partroling.

The Tower Aes Sedai had been tipped off that somebody was coming.
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 22, 2006 2:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

"Leafburner, u said you can bet on the seanchan already having a battle plan, and im pretty sure this has already been alluded to. dont have books on me atm, but i think in book10-11, Karede (tuon's bodyguard) lets a map roll up that was of tar valon and its when the seeker walks in i think. another reference when suroth says they can take the to'raken to stop ituralde, and karede says not all as some are already committed to a secret assignment. im not entirely sure if people are correct been a while since i read it, but i know that both the events happen" - Barnabas

I also think the "secret assignment" is the battle of Tar Valon. Woot!
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 22, 2006 3:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Umm...also, a RIVER is a lot different than a Water tank...
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 22, 2006 4:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I thought that any battle around Tar Valon would include Trollocs and not Aes Sedai vs. Seanchan.
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 22, 2006 4:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think it will escelate, RSR. I think the battle between Aes Sedai and Seanchan will serve it's purpose by uniting the Aes Sedai armies and once Mat turns up the Seanchan army also. If they have all those armies in Tar Valon and the Trollocs swarm down from the North it'll be one hell of a battle. I always saw tar Valon as being the city involved in the Last Battle. I'd not be surprised if Caemlyn is also attacked, but the brunt of the fighting will be at Tar Valon.
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