[Basic] I <3 the 90's Mafia: Music Edition - TOWN WINS!

[Guest]

I didn't even begin to think that BFG was vig... sad. I'm glad that I was right that she was town though.

 

So far I think I'm up for lynching Liz or Lenlo today. Still in the process of iso'ing lenlo but I'll post as soon as it's done.

[LilyElizabeth]

 

 

 

 

well at least it's someone in my bottom...... 

 

I still think Nin is Scum btw. Just seems that no one is going there and it's almost EoD. And really Wish's defense of her doesn't make me feel that much better about Wish. 

 

 

 

[unvote]

 

[v]wishstork[/v]

I don't think I should townread this Bfg.

 

Why not?

 

I've been feeling better about Kat throughout Day 1 and she pushes Wistork Day 2 iirc. I remember Darthe(?)ointing some weird stuff out about her Day 2, but I'm not there yet in my reread

 

Well I don't know about anything else, but what I do know is that in lenlo, liz, lil, kat, and besie there is 3 wolves or so.

 

besie seems like town. lil kind of seems like town. and it seems like kat has seph as a strong townread there. Some wolves bus to avoid voting their strong town reads.

 

 

Again, what makes you think Lily seems like town?  Her EoD1 vote looks really bad, and I don't really care at all that she voted Wish today.  Let's be honest - that lynch was never going through today.  Lenlo was almost certainly going to be the lynch, and I think you were considerably more likely than she was.  

 

 

 

 

I'm still in my gut feeling range. As the game progresses, I should get more reasons for my thoughts than just that. 

 

WTL - Wish and Liz today. Honestly not sure about Lenlo. 

 

Not going to vote until I see a vote count. I think there may have been one this morning. I'll go check. 

 

 

Responding here first 'cause it's most recently asked. I'll get to the other ones soon.

 

Ok Besie, can you talk me through your reaction to Niniel's claim?

 

Starting at the beginning.

 

1 - I came into the thread and she was a lynch train so I:

2 - iso'd her here - and thought she seemed scummy for the reasons stated, which is why I had no problem with

3 - voting her here, start D2. I had no problem keeping my vote on her for the same reason I had a problem with Liz's vote on Dice as I explained in my iso of her. I wanted to get rid of one scum, and then try to find another. I was asked about it and I explained it here - same thing. I also started doing iso's on other players who I thought may be scum, based on both other players thoughts, and (mostly) my own gut feels.

4 - then she was at L-1. I was knee-deep in my next iso and... I freaked out. And unvoted here. I think my mind just couldn't cope - i explained it here. I did not feel ready for the game to continue - simply because I did not have any other solid scum reads at that point in time.

5 - And then exactly 5 minutes passed, and I voted her again. I reasoning is there, and is the same reason as in #3 here.

6 - Then she claimed. I've stated many times how I feel about claiming. I don't understand it; it doesn't make sense to me. I also still remember the lectures I got in the previous games for believing claims (VT, mind). So I didn't change my vote. Instead I went off to find possible proof that she might be lying. Like me asking why she didn't claim during D1 when she was at L-2. 

7 - people went at me hard. Apparently a doc claim is not the same as a vt claim. Liz said she had soft-claimed earlier (which i had taken to being almost like breadcrumbing, but apparently it was something different [stated in #8]) - and i trust breadcrumb. That was an actual fault on my side, and my reason was wrong there. But yeah, after that comment about soft-claiming I (grumpily) accepted the claim.

8 - I can't find the post right now, but the reason why i then stayed on her as town was because of Dice. He said that her soft claim had been her asking if she should claim. She had gone to bed whilst she wasn't near being lynched, and had asked if she should claim to not be lynched - apparently some had believed her. 

 

Thinking back, I still don't know why her train had gone up to L-2 if most people had believed her "soft claim" when she had asked if she should claim. ... 

 

I'm slightly confused about the last part now. Can someone explain it to me for shiggles and gits (since niniel is confirmed doc and it won't actually help the game play? ... unless we must look at everyone who added on to her train? after she had asked? why did the train fall apart at l-2?)

 

 

What is WIM? I've seem it a lot in thread and can't figure it out.

 

I can't remember exactly what it stands for but it's the Will to Win basically.

 

 

 

Thanks for that ISO, Besie. Liz has been feeling more scummy to me of late, and I'm glad to know I'm not the only one.

 

Actually going the other way with me 

 

What is WIM? I've seem it a lot in thread and can't figure it out.

Want it more

 

 

Thanks, Besie

 

Vote Wish

 

Based mostly on Kat's case, I admit, but it doesn't look good for her. 

 

 

 

 

 

This does nothing to inspire confidence in me whatsoever.  I have no problem with people holding their votes until they know what the count is.  But if she was genuinely concerned with 'getting it right', she's not going to throw it down three posts later for no reason.

 

certainly easier for someone to justify a bus if two wagons are wolves and the one that is a town wagon is a strong town read.

 

 

What is this in reply to?

 

 

I went back and found a vote count. That's why my wanting to see one and my vote were so close together. 

[Guest]

Chris, who do you think is mafia?

 

Same question to Sili and anyone else reading

 

Sorry that i'm only answering this after your death

 

I think it's liz and lenlo. And I know there's more but I'm not sure who. Somewhere in lily/kat/alanna, i think (and hope).

[LilyElizabeth]

I'm still catching up on the morning's posts.

 

Clov is not town. 

 

Vote Clov

[Sili Quirrels]

Three l's on a team would be cute.

[Sili Quirrels]

I'm still catching up on the morning's posts.

 

Clov is not town. 

 

Vote Clov

woah. o.O heh. thank you.

 

[v]clov[/v]

[Sili Quirrels]

wait a minute.

 

if u saying what i think u are ill need proof just in case.

 

even though i'm more than willing to believe clov is a wolf.

 

[unvote]

[Sili Quirrels]

some part of me doesn't trust clov. but i forgot myself. i should approach this critically.

[Guest]

And btw I feel better about there not being a SK now... I can see BFG taking out Darthe from their interaction... Makes me feel much mo betta... And explains why there was no double kill on Night 1. To me that also implies that the RB may be an even night  RB?? DOes that make sense? 

 

Makes sense. They could also have RB'd the wrong person though. I agree with you on the SK. 

[Hallia]

[unvote]

[v] Clov [/v]

[Hallia]

SHOTS FIRED

[Hallia]

Now we hope he's the RB and then we can play wifom

[keyholder21]

Official Vote Count:

 

Clov (2) - Lily, Hallia

 

 

Not Voting (8) - Besie, Hallia, Sili, Katiora, Lenlo, Clov, Alannalynn, Lizabeth

 

With 9 alive, it takes 5 to lynch. 

 

Deadline: Tuesday, June 14th, 10:30PM CDT

 

[Guest]

Does that count as a claim? Do we just believe it?

[Clovdyx]

[v]LilyElizabeth[/v]

 

Lily -> Liz -> Alanna -> if the game somehow isn't over, Lenlo

 

I was actually going to flip the other two but if she wants to make our job easier for us, whatever.

[Sili Quirrels]

it has the air of formality about it and clov has been off somehow this entire game.

 

but ill wait and see in the case that it isn't because town needs someone with patience with bfg gone.

[LilyElizabeth]

Does that count as a claim? Do we just believe it?

 

Yes, it's a claim. Odd night cop. Whether you believe it or not is up to you. I did my job. 

[Sili Quirrels]

[v]LilyElizabeth[/v]

 

Lily -> Liz -> Alanna -> if the game somehow isn't over, Lenlo

 

I was actually going to flip the other two but if she wants to make our job easier for us, whatever.

oh so you're not a cop.

 

i was thinking you were cause of how hard you defended lenlo, but i guess not.

 

guess i put lenlo back on the chopping block.

 

maybe you thought he wasn't getting lynched or something, but i don't put bussing past you like bfg did. the way you hard defended him that's tmi or... well foolishness.

[keyholder21]

Official Vote Count:
 
Clov (2) - Lily, Hallia

Lily (1) - Clov
 
 
Not Voting (6) - Besie, Sili, Katiora, Lenlo, Alannalynn, Lizabeth
 
With 9 alive, it takes 5 to lynch.
 
Deadline: Tuesday, June 14th, 10:30PM CDT
 

[Sili Quirrels]

 

Does that count as a claim? Do we just believe it?

 

Yes, it's a claim. Odd night cop. Whether you believe it or not is up to you. I did my job. 

 

who was your cop n1?

[Guest]

... is clov's a claim too...?

[Clovdyx]

 

Does that count as a claim? Do we just believe it?

 

Yes, it's a claim. Odd night cop. Whether you believe it or not is up to you. I did my job. 

 

 

Nobody reading the thread is going to believe you.

[Sili Quirrels]

lily knows the stakes. game probably doesn't have 5 wolves so this probably isn't lylo. she says clov is a wolf and claims cop and clov is town then she dies tomorrow. pretty straightforward. lily wasn't on the chopping block either so therefore if lily is a wolf and is lying we have a pretty good idea of who her buddies are. laine liz for instance.

[LilyElizabeth]

 

 

Does that count as a claim? Do we just believe it?

 

Yes, it's a claim. Odd night cop. Whether you believe it or not is up to you. I did my job. 

 

who was your cop n1?

 

 

Unfortunately, Zander. He's a player I like to know about early. 

[Guest]

... i'm confused