[Basic] I <3 the 90's Mafia: Music Edition - TOWN WINS!

[Niniel]

Niniel, did you ever reconsider your read on Lenlo after he explained how he got to his read on me at EOD? Why do you think Lenlo defended me over other people more willing to vote seph than me, such as dice and Blessie?

No, I haven't. I still feel that he tried to jump on the longest train. He was the last to vote me and the last o vote Seph.

Because he seemed to be willing to vote long trains (to lynch town or just keep himself alive?) but didn't considered your. He asked what the case on you were even though he earlier had you as light Mafia. To me it's a possibility that he wanted to have one Mafia buddy in his Mafia pile without plans to lynch you. I haven't looked more at Dice or Besie.

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Official Vote Count:

Niniel (5) - Besie, Katiora, Sili, Hallia, Wistork
Dice (2) - Clov, BFG
Lenlo (2) - Niniel, dice
Besie (1) - Darthe


Not Voting (4) -  Lenlo, Lily, Alanna, Lizabeth,

With 14 alive, it takes 8 to lynch. 

Deadline: Friday, June 10, 4:30pm CDT

[Katiora]

 

 

I think that my biggest changes are Kat, Dice, Wish and Liz.

 

Kat - moved her up because so many says this is her town game. So I´m just going to trust people on this right now and let her go.

Dice - one of the reasons that I thought he was town was that he wasn´t town reading Zander (who I though was mafia) + maybe because he was so nice to me. Now that I know that Zander is town it changes it. I saw that Clove wrote about him recently but I didn´t read it. Will do.

Wish - there is maybe a connection with her and Lenlo. So my read on her is based on Lenlo´s alignment.

Liz - I feel that I´ve got nothing from her. I think she has commented on things that I don´t understand or has been too busy to read.

 

I edited the list out because it didn't really look bad or special to me.  A couple questions, though.

 

1) Who all are reading Kat as town?  I don't think there's been much AGAINST her, but nobody sticks out for feeling particularly strongly about her.  Maybe Zander was?

 

2) Why does Zander flipping town change things?

1. It felt that a lot of people said that Kat wouldn't play this way as Mafia. Don't remember how many that said it. But after today's posts she is back in the Mafia pile again. I don't like the way she is going after me.

 

2. The two people that I think read Zander best is Laine and Dice. I thought that Zander was Mafia and I liked that Dice didn't clear him. I thought he felt the same way as I about Zander. But now that Zander was town then I wondered if Dice was Mafia that wanted to get Zander lynched. But now that I think about it more, it would probably have been easier for him to just buddy Zander. I don't know about his claim but it felt real to me. I think Dice is back as town.

 

 

 

Ok exactly who said I'd play what way at mafia?? I'd like to see it. But I know you're not going to go back and search.. It's too much. You've been throwing how I play mafia out there the entire game since you came in here and Misread me mafia from the start for a tell that isn't mine. Why would you stop now? And I'm sure I"m back in your mafia pile. How about the other people who are voting for you?? How many of them are your pile too?  

 

And you said the two people that read Zander best are two of the ones that thought he possibly was scum. Good picks. lol  

 

And sorry not sorry that i make observations that could be attributed to real life. I can't know that. I mean seriously. I can't know. I mean it could be that you legitimately NEEDED to go to bed. or it could be that you wanted to look like you weren't here so that you could send in a night action and no one would think it was you cause you said you went to bed... I would never base a lynch totally off of what COULD be... but it will factor in. That's not the basis of my case on you. 

[Clovdyx]

Passing out again, too sleepy. Please answer my questions, but leaving my vote on niniel now that I am more confident in Lenlo being town, and I think dice's claim makes sense.

 

Lenlo's right, niniel linking together him and me is suspect especially if she doesn't reevaluate after his explanation of why he voted in that way.

 

Also, returning to my original reads before I got all tunnely on seph:

 

Niniel/Blessie/Hallia/?

 

I need to look into bfg, Chris, Liz, and Lily, I think I've been reading them as town for entrance/interaction/how they've treated me reasons, don't think that these reads are as solid as they could be.

 

Dice gets a one day pass for the claim. Lenlo also needs to get out of his sili spat and step it up tomorrow.

I'll admit that I haven't looked at Hallia particularly in depth recently, mostly because I haven't felt I've needed to. I said that my key to reading her is consistency - not that she can't / doesn't evolve reads, but just a prolonged sense of actuslly wanting to solve and trying to get her suspects lynched.

 

What is standing out to you as that scummy? I'm not sure I get to a point where I want to lynch her this game, so that's a really bad read to me.

 

And how doed her being mafia fit with you saying that the fight with Sili isn't fake?

[Clovdyx]

Didn't mean to post that yet.

 

Why were you suspicious of Besie that early? Thane did all of nothing, and I'm not even sure she was in the game when you started on Seph.

[Niniel]

That is the point, Kat. Two people that I know read Zander well wasn't sure he was town. Since I had a Mafia read on Zander it enhanced that and gave me a good impression of them.

 

Then I will say the same to you that I have told everyone else that I have played with. I don't lie about rl. I don't like your tone at all.

 

About those on my wagon. I have said what I think of Wish. It depends some on Lenlo's alignment. I have very good reasons to believe that Hallia is town. I think Sili is town. Besie is low on my list.

 

And I will try to go back and see who said what about you to show you. Can't promise that I can do it right away.

 

And will you still use my mistake in the beginning against me? I think most here recognize that I did a mistake.

[Niniel]

I only searched for Kat and then I found some examples.

 

#867 Sili thinks it's okay for people t clear you for your wots. I assume people had talked about it before his comment.

# 2091 Laine says that "we know" that you would be uncomfartable being Mafia. She also say it in # 2754.

In #2782 Clov says that he doesn't agree totally with Laine but that you are not a desired lynch.

 

I think that If you take your time to search more you will find others that have told you look town. That is why I changed my mind since they have played with you before and not I. But the way you post makes me ignore them now.

[Clovdyx]

1. I was testing a theory, not trying to get her lynched (yet). But me leaving my vote on her without being around at end of day to shift it if necessary could have led to me accidentally helping lynch her.

 

2. Last night I was trying to catch up on D1 and then trying to get caught up on D2 before going to bed. If there's a particular question you want me to respond to, why don't you do what BFG did and ask me again? I only have so much time for catch up so I'm trying to focus my energies where I think they'll be most productive. Coming through the night thread (still don't understand the night thread thing...) was not my priority.

Because it's not a single question that I wanted an answer to. It's an entire post I wanted to see how you would react to.

 

If I weren't on my phone, I'd pull it up, but forget that. Just editing the quotes out of this took two minutes.

[Clovdyx]

 

 

 

I think I believe dice.

Why?

The flavor of his claim. He's been softing it since d1.

You do realize that Key said that mafia would be provided fake claims??

This looks good for Liz and Kat. There is no reason anybody should be putting much stock in character claims this game.

 

The only thing that's giving me trouble is I'm leveling myself by trying to figure out if Key would give Nirvana as a real role or a fake claim. If any role should be good for 90's music, I'd think it WOULD Nirvana.

 

Which is why if I were modding, I'd either give it to mafia or omit it entirely. But I'm not.

[wish-tree]

 

Passing out again, too sleepy. Please answer my questions, but leaving my vote on niniel now that I am more confident in Lenlo being town, and I think dice's claim makes sense.

 

Lenlo's right, niniel linking together him and me is suspect especially if she doesn't reevaluate after his explanation of why he voted in that way.

 

Also, returning to my original reads before I got all tunnely on seph:

 

Niniel/Blessie/Hallia/?

 

I need to look into bfg, Chris, Liz, and Lily, I think I've been reading them as town for entrance/interaction/how they've treated me reasons, don't think that these reads are as solid as they could be.

 

Dice gets a one day pass for the claim. Lenlo also needs to get out of his sili spat and step it up tomorrow.

I'll admit that I haven't looked at Hallia particularly in depth recently, mostly because I haven't felt I've needed to. I said that my key to reading her is consistency - not that she can't / doesn't evolve reads, but just a prolonged sense of actuslly wanting to solve and trying to get her suspects lynched.

 

What is standing out to you as that scummy? I'm not sure I get to a point where I want to lynch her this game, so that's a really bad read to me.

 

And how doed her being mafia fit with you saying that the fight with Sili isn't fake?

Her EOD defense of Seph and then backing off when she realized it was too late. Sure, she defended seph earlier, but when it came down to the crucial moment, she only showed up to vote me when Zander asked her for her vote, and instead of strongly defending a town read, she seemed to give up. I have done the same exact behavior regarding penny/Celeste, so I can't just let this go. There feels like some amount of tmi in her defense also, because even though she might be a gut player, there is at least some amount she can explain.

 

Sili and her not feeling fake is because I don't think they can be teamed, so the argument wouldn't have been set up deliberately, I think Sili had a genuine problem with her read and I like that from him.

[wish-tree]

 

 

 

 

I think I believe dice.

Why?

The flavor of his claim. He's been softing it since d1.

You do realize that Key said that mafia would be provided fake claims??

This looks good for Liz and Kat. There is no reason anybody should be putting much stock in character claims this game.

 

The only thing that's giving me trouble is I'm leveling myself by trying to figure out if Key would give Nirvana as a real role or a fake claim. If any role should be good for 90's music, I'd think it WOULD Nirvana.

 

Which is why if I were modding, I'd either give it to mafia or omit it entirely. But I'm not.

Seph said the same exact thing eod 1, I didn't believe him, and ran him up regardless. Plus the fact that dice and I have been on a similar page for a lot of the game irt Zander, I don't think he'd mafia. And benefit of the doubt because I made the mistake yesterday of not believing Spice Girls.

[Clovdyx]

Is the onlyreason you're townreading Dice again the claim, Niniel?

[wish-tree]

Didn't mean to post that yet.

 

Why were you suspicious of Besie that early? Thane did all of nothing, and I'm not even sure she was in the game when you started on Seph.

Thane's response to my Q and A and then the way he announced his sub out, which I thought was pretty dirty for him to do in the thread, mainly. It's not a super strong read but I'm feeling a bit worse with the way Besie hopped into thread yesterday without having read much to vote seph.

[Hallia]

I didn't "show up" to do anything. I have been here,and active this entire game.

[wish-tree]

Idk who you're addressing, Chris, but I had Dice as an early town read, he dropped off my radar, but I thought his very first post about him being a strong stubborn gut reader and his stated gut read of bfg is town was very convincing.

[Lenlo]

Clov Seph lynch built quickly overnight with few reasons to for votes. Mostly it was seeping and this was sketch as all get out to me. It looked to be coming together even though there was no real reason and that's not something that usually happens unless wolves are involved.

[Lenlo]

[V]Niniel [/v]

[Clovdyx]

Idk who you're addressing, Chris, but I had Dice as an early town read, he dropped off my radar, but I thought his very first post about him being a strong stubborn gut reader and his stated gut read of bfg is town was very convincing.

Yeah, I should have indicated who that post was to. :eyeroll:

[wish-tree]

 

Niniel, did you ever reconsider your read on Lenlo after he explained how he got to his read on me at EOD? Why do you think Lenlo defended me over other people more willing to vote seph than me, such as dice and Blessie?

No, I haven't. I still feel that he tried to jump on the longest train. He was the last to vote me and the last o vote Seph.

Because he seemed to be willing to vote long trains (to lynch town or just keep himself alive?) but didn't considered your. He asked what the case on you were even though he earlier had you as light Mafia. To me it's a possibility that he wanted to have one Mafia buddy in his Mafia pile without plans to lynch you. I haven't looked more at Dice or Besie.

He said he moved me to a town read by the end of the day. Do you not buy that?

[wish-tree]

 

Idk who you're addressing, Chris, but I had Dice as an early town read, he dropped off my radar, but I thought his very first post about him being a strong stubborn gut reader and his stated gut read of bfg is town was very convincing.

Yeah, I should have indicated who that post was to. :eyeroll:

It didn't make sense that it was to niniel because the posts around the same time about dice's claim were primarily mine... xD

[Clovdyx]

Yes, it doesn't make sense I would ask the person who said she went back to townreading Dice why she went back to townreading Dice.

[Clovdyx]

Clov Seph lynch built quickly overnight with few reasons to for votes. Mostly it was seeping and this was sketch as all get out to me. It looked to be coming together even though there was no real reason and that's not something that usually happens unless wolves are involved.

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[Darthe]

Guys in I'm not saying you're wrong about nin though you may be, im just saying im right on besie

[Sili Quirrels]

Guys in I'm not saying you're wrong about nin though you may be, im just saying im right on besie

then vote dice?

[Darthe]

Why would I not vote besie?