[Basic] I <3 the 90's Mafia: Music Edition - TOWN WINS!

[Darthe]

Those vcs are impossible to edit when quoting. The amount of code is rediculius.

 

That said, I was going to point out this unholy trio

 

Lenlo (2) - Niniel, dice

 

Anyone.think thats a cesspool of wifom?

[Darthe]

 

 

 

Reason: Leno needs to be resolved first

Do you think Dice and Lenlo being v/v is a realistic possibility?

Not sure id say that but ive not looked at dice enough tbh

I think what I pointed out covers most of his contribution this game, besides what he had towards Lenlo. You didn't feel the need to address any of it?

Playing at work man, I didnt feel the need to read any of it. If you post more than ~3 lines I prob skipped it

[Lenlo]

 

Can you separate yourself from the argument and try to read it objectively, without thinking immediately, lenlo is just so scummy and yada yada yada

 

I think that helps

he's acting like how he did at the end of last game.

 

when we were fighting some of the things rung a bell. made me think he was town, and so i backed off. we've had a love hate relationship i think.

 

You throw me off my game early game for some reason. Grab somethin small that means nothin to me but apparently means wolf to you.  :(

 

Takes me awhile to get out of just being frustrated with you. I <3 u though.

[Clovdyx]

I'd like to look into Lwnlo today as well. Yesterday when I asked him for a reads list, he provided one with me on it that had me as slightly scummy, but when asked to vote me, he said he hadn't had problems with our slot, so didn't vote me and preferred Seph. I'd have less of a problem with this if he said something that reflected the state of his reads at that time, that he had us both as scummy but wanted Seph more.

Also, him leaving out Sili from the town circle of Hallia and Zander is not great. Hallia's defense of Seph minutes before EOD and then her giving up on him instead of calling out for my lunch if she really thought I was a wolf trying to lunch seph, just bothered me a lot. Stork and I got the chance to talk about that much earlier in our time together.

Sure she may have defended him since the beginning, but when the time came that actually mattered, when she felt so strongly about him, why was she not kicking and screaming that he was town and that I needed to die?

 

 

The top point about thinking you're scummy/not having any issue with your slot isn't awful, but I remember Len saying that he would be voting between Sili and Seph.  I'm not sure him going back there means a WHOLE lot.

 

I"m confused why you think the bold.  Can you talk about this?

 

Also, can you weigh in on what I said about Dice?

 

 

 

I´m town and seph was town so I took a look at the votecounts to see if there were people that were on both of our trains. It seems that there weren´t. There were a lot of people having me as a possible lynch though. Need to look at them. Anyway, here is from when I had most votes.

 

Nini - Hallia, Zander, Clov, Kat, Laine, Sili, Lenlo

 

7 votes. All of them moved to someone else. Here are those who lynched seph:

 

Seph - Darthe, Besie, Dice, Wish, Lenlo, Lily

 

 

The only one who where on both trains is Lenlo, who I thought was mafia anyway. It´s obvious that he wanted to lynch anyone except himself. He didn´t vote Wish though.

 

Since Lenlo was one of my main suspects before this doesn´t look better for him. I will take a look at who on seph´s train that had me as a back up at the end of the day. It´s a bit tricky to search for my name since there are a lot of versions of it. 

 

Does anybody know if this is correct?  

 

Take off Lenlo, and that's a really clean looking wagon.  And if I'm right about Dice, there's a pretty reasonable chance that's seven townies.

 

 

Check Key´s iso and you will find it.

 

 

It took too long time to go through all the posts for people that wanted to lynch me but voted seph. But I found an interesting post from Lenlo and made a quick mini iso of him.

 

In #1379 He makes a list. The only wolfy people are me and seph. Wish is null/slightly wolfy.

He had voted seph but in #1992 he said that he had voted seph for compting trains and that his train went too fast so he voted me instead. That made me L-2. 

Everyone but Lenlo unvoted me. In #2273 He said that if he had to choose between seph and Wish he would pick seph (who he later voted). Interesting to note is that he wondered what the case on Wish were because he hadn´t had too many problems with her. Interesting since he listed Wish as slighly wolf earlier. Sure, it was almost 1000 posts earlier but he had listed them as null/wolfy before. 

 

So if Lenlo is mafia then it could be that Wish is as well.

 

 

[v] Lenlo [/v]

 

 

 

New list coming soon.

 

 

So you think that Lenlo was trying to save Wish?

[Clovdyx]

Playing at work man, I didnt feel the need to read any of it. If you post more than ~3 lines I prob skipped it

 

 

Are you still at work?

[Lenlo]

1. Darthe

2. Thane Vakarian BlomBesie

3. BFG

4. Hallia

7. Katiora

8. dicetosser1

9. Lenlo

10. Niniel

11. Clovdyx

13. LilyElizabeth

14. Wishtree/Stork hydra  - Wistork

15. alannalynn

16. Lizabeth

Can I get a colorblind version of this list?

[Lenlo]

To be specific I cant tell what color Niniel and BlomBesie are, and if Liz/BFG even have colors.

[Darthe]

 

Playing at work man, I didnt feel the need to read any of it. If you post more than ~3 lines I prob skipped it

 

Are you still at work?

Nah, ive been out for a while

[Darthe]

Blom bfg and liz have no color, dice is red and nin is orange

[Lenlo]

<3

[Clovdyx]

Nah, ive been out for a while

 

 

I actually figured as much.  That was a way of telling you to go back and look at it.

[Sili Quirrels]

To be specific I cant tell what color Niniel and BlomBesie are, and if Liz/BFG even have colors.

niniel is slight scum the others i have as null because i can't remember much about them atm.

[Katiora]

Ok. I really think Nin is bad. I mean really. I've looked at it all day. Iso'd other people to see if anything stood out. Really didn't. I still feel the same.

 

 

[v]Nin[/v]

 

I kept thinking someone reading her town would say something that might sway me, but nothing. I'm gonna stick to my guns. This was who I wanted to lynch yesterday. Nothing's really changed today even if she got piled on early. Let's do this.

[Clovdyx]

 

I think that my biggest changes are Kat, Dice, Wish and Liz.

 

Kat - moved her up because so many says this is her town game. So I´m just going to trust people on this right now and let her go.

Dice - one of the reasons that I thought he was town was that he wasn´t town reading Zander (who I though was mafia) + maybe because he was so nice to me. Now that I know that Zander is town it changes it. I saw that Clove wrote about him recently but I didn´t read it. Will do.

Wish - there is maybe a connection with her and Lenlo. So my read on her is based on Lenlo´s alignment.

Liz - I feel that I´ve got nothing from her. I think she has commented on things that I don´t understand or has been too busy to read. 

 

I edited the list out because it didn't really look bad or special to me.  A couple questions, though.

 

1) Who all are reading Kat as town?  I don't think there's been much AGAINST her, but nobody sticks out for feeling particularly strongly about her.  Maybe Zander was?

 

2) Why does Zander flipping town change things? 

[keyholder21]

Those vcs are impossible to edit when quoting. The amount of code is rediculius.

 

 

I know. It's something DM has started doing for some reason - auto putting in code for background, color (even though it's black) etc. Even when I edit it out it reappears next time.

 

 

Husband is still on the computer, but I want to get to bed so goodnight everyone and I will edit in Hally's vote link (and do a new count) in the morning :).

 

@Sili - I chuckled at your comment that I didn't add link bc I was upset :).

[alannalynn]

Wtf 18 hours left? I'm like 60 pages behind and have been out of town most of today. Jfc

 

Gonna start cleaning house snd then I'll dig in I guess.

[Clovdyx]

Ok. I really think Nin is bad. I mean really. I've looked at it all day. Iso'd other people to see if anything stood out. Really didn't. I still feel the same.

 

 

[v]Nin[/v]

 

I kept thinking someone reading her town would say something that might sway me, but nothing. I'm gonna stick to my guns. This was who I wanted to lynch yesterday. Nothing's really changed today even if she got piled on early. Let's do this.

 

The bold sounds bad to me.  Not because I necessarily disagree with it, but the actual tone just sounds fake.

 

Kat, can you show exactly what your issue with her is?  I know you've had her low pretty much most of D1, like you said...but I'm not really sure why anymore.

[alannalynn]

Well now that that's done let's all sit in a circle and sing kumbaya....

I'm not imagining the fakeness of this am I? Or is it just another case of "alanna randomly came upon a post that feels weird outside of context"?

[alannalynn]

Oh snap chriss post, what do you think about the one i just pulled?

 

I'm on mobile right now I need to go away and finish what I need to before actually digging in. I'm failing right now :(

[LilyElizabeth]

I'm off to watch TV and then bed after that. Goodnight everyone!

[Clovdyx]

 

Well now that that's done let's all sit in a circle and sing kumbaya....

I'm not imagining the fakeness of this am I? Or is it just another case of "alanna randomly came upon a post that feels weird outside of context"?

 

 

I don't know.  I'll need to read and check it against the actual flow of the thread to see how I feel about it.  And I don't really know Kat as a person, so I can't say how out of place THAT is.  In the one I quoted, I just felt she was putting more emphasis on selling the read than necessary.

 

Show versus tell sort of thing, if that makes sense.

[Katiora]

 

Besie - I have no idea why she has BFG as mafia that early. I don´t like it.

 

Sili - feeling better about him now compared to earlier.

 

Kat - I don´t feel good about her. She posts a lot to tell people to stop arguing and doing fluff/lol posts. I agree with her that people should stop arguing in that way because it makes the thread unreadable for some of us, but she doesn´t seem to draw any conclusions of them even though she apparently reads them. It seems like she is just posting to be seen posting.

 

Liz - I don´t understand a lot of what she is writing. Have no idea about her.

#1 I never said to stop doing fluff/lol posts... At least I dont' remember saying anything to that effect... which just makes me think that you're not really reading the thread you are skimming and then putting attributes to people as you want, not as they are.

 

#2 I never said I read the arguments. In fact I barely read anything in those posts... thus my post about ya'll need to stop because I can't read the thread because ya'll are arguing about something that no one else gets. I skimmed those pages, and sometimes read the end of the huge quote posts but a lot of it was just them going back and forth... I do believe I said the argument felt more like town/town (though from other interactions I really think Wish is slightly scummy). That's a conclusion I do think... another time she's not really reading and just throwing misinformation out there.

 

#3 I'm just posting to be posting when she posts her reads list in 4 different posts and there are 3-4 "reads" that all it says is "i like or townie feeling" I mean really... well... good for you. Where's the actual information.

 

So you're saying I'm not making conclusions (which after i said my paragraph about the ya'll quit the arguing crap I posted a full reads list with reasons on why EVERYONE was in their place on my list, and it was was more than "I like them") But i'm just posting to be posting and not making conclusions and just getting along...

 

Nothing you've said this game has in anyway helped me figure you out and I believe it has made it harder for me to view others in an unbiased way because of the way you seem to just go with people with absolutely no reasoning behind you which makes me suspicious of both you and them.

 

The more I read you the worse I feel about you.

 

[v]Niniel[/v]

Prolly sounds forced cause I typed it while my two year old screamed at me while making her lay down cause it's WAY PAST BEDTIME and I'm on my phone and autocorrect is pissing me off.

 

This is my original case against Nin. I think she is doing the bare minimum staying under the radar. She did a BIT more today but still left after making a crap case on lenlo and then voting him. The way she flaked out last night when she realized that she wasn't getting lynched and didn't even sit around to see day end didn't sit with me well either.

 

And honestly some of its gut. Her play doesn't sit well. Lily keeps saying she thinks it'll get better now that post volume is down but I'll believe it when I see it.....

[Hallia]

Vote: Nin

[Clovdyx]

 

Prolly sounds forced cause I typed it while my two year old screamed at me while making her lay down cause it's WAY PAST BEDTIME and I'm on my phone and autocorrect is pissing me off.

 

This is my original case against Nin. I think she is doing the bare minimum staying under the radar. She did a BIT more today but still left after making a crap case on lenlo and then voting him. The way she flaked out last night when she realized that she wasn't getting lynched and didn't even sit around to see day end didn't sit with me well either.

 

And honestly some of its gut. Her play doesn't sit well. Lily keeps saying she thinks it'll get better now that post volume is down but I'll believe it when I see it.....

 

 

I agree with the bold, but I don't think she's been staying under the radar at all.  She was one of the bigger lynch candidates for almost all of yesterday, and I think she's the leading vote getter today.  Her activity isn't a GOOD look, but I feel like there's much better arguments against her.

 

Wishtree made a similar argument against Lenlo (Len sussing Wish but voting Seph) as Niniel did.  Do you think the argument is any better coming from her?

 

....Why does what Lily say about her activity matter for your read on Niniel?

[Katiora]

 

Prolly sounds forced cause I typed it while my two year old screamed at me while making her lay down cause it's WAY PAST BEDTIME and I'm on my phone and autocorrect is pissing me off.

 

This is my original case against Nin. I think she is doing the bare minimum staying under the radar. She did a BIT more today but still left after making a crap case on lenlo and then voting him. The way she flaked out last night when she realized that she wasn't getting lynched and didn't even sit around to see day end didn't sit with me well either.

 

And honestly some of its gut. Her play doesn't sit well. Lily keeps saying she thinks it'll get better now that post volume is down but I'll believe it when I see it.....

 

1) I agree with the bold, but I don't think she's been staying under the radar at all. She was one of the bigger lynch candidates for almost all of yesterday, and I think she's the leading vote getter today. Her activity isn't a GOOD look, but I feel like there's much better arguments against her.

 

2)Wishtree made a similar argument against Lenlo (Len sussing Wish but voting Seph) as Niniel did. Do you think the argument is any better coming from her?

 

3)....Why does what Lily say about her activity matter for your read on Niniel?

 

I numbered your paragraphs. Mine will match.

 

1. She led right after the lynch but all afternoon the only person on her was besie. She laid low and her votes just disappeared. She didn't even have to dispute them. What are your better arguments? Honestly right now it's an hour past my bedtime and I'm only up because I think my 2 year old has an ear infection and she won't let me sleep.

 

2. No wish is #2 on my suspect list. And the argument is still moot. Just because Len voted Seph doesn't mean that hes mafia and he had been against Seph all game. It stands to reason that some if not most of the ones on Seph have to be town. If it had been out of the blue. Yes. but his vote is one of the best I feel about on the Seph train.

 

 

3. Lily only matters cause I asked her earlier why she viewed Nin town. I was pretty much saying thanks lily for your view but I don't see it that way.