[Basic] I <3 the 90's Mafia: Music Edition - TOWN WINS!

[Zander?]

BFG  whats weirding you out?  that i didnt give a definite answer Zander is town/mafia?  I do have to take time to make a read sometimes you know and he has not been super obvious town zander that i pick up on 2 posts or so

 

How has BFG been super obv Town then iyo?

 

Youve popped into threads and gave me pretty quick and easy Town reads before so its not all that common for you to need that much time to read me correctly.

[Zander?]

 

 

Feeling townie: BFG, Hallia, maybe seph.

Not feeling good about: Zander, Katiora, Silly

 

 

I´m tempted to just follow BFG in this game.

 

[v] Zander [/v]

 

 

I agree with whoever said it that it looked like Zander asked questions that wouldn´t lead anywhere.

Why Katiora?

 

 

I have seen her post excuses like that as mafia before. Maybe she does it as town too? I just didn´t get a good feeling from it. Lily made a similar post but I didn´t get the same feeling from her. I expected her to post like that. Still it doesn´t show her alignment. As I have stated before, I will have trouble with keeping up as well. So I guess it´s all based on a semi meta gut read.

 

 

When was this?

 

Did you play with her pre return because shes been Town in all her games back sense then,

 

Yet you feel bad about her?

 

Why do you have a problem with her using excuses when youre using one yourself?

[Hallia]

I am siding with Zander here. I missed that Niniel post on catch up.

 

[v] Niniel [/v]

Ewwww.

[Zander?]

Detailed catch up is exhausting, so you get lazy catch up instead.

 

Hally's early excitement looks good.

 

#27 @Sili you said that Hally was leading with her post count, what were you implying here? Just wondering what kind of read you made

 

Q&A time with Storktree:

 

1) How old were you during the 90s? uhhh 0-8? I'm a 1992 baby

2) What was your favorite 90s artist/song? =/ I liked my boy bands... also Brit Spears lol

3) Why are you playing this game? Because I need mafia in my life

4) Do you prefer to work together or alone? Alone in RL, together in mafia bc I'm dumb and need help

5) What's your goal for this game (may be correlated to no. 3)? Lunching all the wolves

6) What's your favorite role to play? Vanilla town, ldo

7) What meta do you have with other players? All the meta. I love all of you <3

8) Describe your own meta as best as you can. lol idk? Someone else could probably describe it better bc I just show up and play the game, don't have any special things I do...

#44 @Seph this is a joke?

 

Sili town- gut feels, I'm generally pretty good at reading him

BFG town- questionnaire answers, general feel

 

#81 started an unnecessary back and forth that lasted until #136... Sili man, why you gotta drag things out?

 

#100 is true from Seph, irt me. In British Monarchy, I was calling him scum on day 1 and I was the N1 kill. I can see wolf Seph finding it necessary to town read me or BFG to keep himself in the clear, but I'm not sure I see Sili's part in the commentary unless he's explaining something different. Also, this post gives me the slightest town read on Seph. I have too many towns right now. #108 also good.

 

#138 Zander wins the questionnaire game. Or maybe I win because i literally knew all his answers before he wrote them?

 

Zander-Seph tunnel sarting bottom of p7??

I know seph gets mislynched a lot and is a easy D1 mislynch as Town but his posts dont seem to me to have the free flowingness to them as they normally do.

Something Im gonna be watching for.

Z, I have to say I kinda disagree with you here. Seph has been joking and then even went after Sili when he needed clarification on what the hell was going on. I don't think I can dislike Seph's start to the game. If later you can better explain how his posts are lacking in "flowiness" that would be helpful

 

#167 Seph you lose points for this post

Serio Zander a bit on p10, noting for later

 

Dice is acting strange irt Zander. He's commenting that he doesn't like a null tell from Z, basically, yet Dice is supposed to read Z better than anyone. I'm a little cautious of tying them together in this way so I'm probably not going to stay on this line of thought much longer unless something comes up.

 

@BFG something irks me a little. Seph said he's wolfed against you and I the most. Yet, I only recall two games on my side: British Monarchy and Mass Effect 2. In BM, I had him d1 and he nk'd me N1, in ME2 I had him and Dice at endgame and was GOAT town. Anyways the question is if Seph's assessment that he wolfs against us the most is true or not? Additionally, if not in your case, why do you think he would bring up your name along with mine? Fear? Wariness? And why you?

 

The above is what I think Zander was getting at and I also find it odd that the point completely went over BFG. :/ Linked interaction: #238

 

Lenlo's post #290 does nothing for me. ---

@STORK: Can you tell me about you? Playstyle, how you read people, how you go about finding wolves, etc? please and thank you

 

Lenlo losing points.

#298 I agree with Seph here, I think Zander is a little off, but it's nothing to worry about yet. I need moar

#331 Wish townie post, she (and her Stork) can join my towns

Hoping Lenlo really does pick up later in the day but I'm getting used to bad entrances and goat end of days from him, so we'll see.

 

#360 I like this post from Clov. Not bad

 

I don't like Clov going after Sili, but I'm pretty sure Sili is town at this point so it's probably that

 

Towns: Hally, Seph, Sili, BFG, Wish

Pending review: Zander

Ummms: Dice, Lenlo

 

Dont agree with all her reads but this post has a Town!Lainey vibe to it imo.

 

DO you have any questions for me Lainey?

 

Can you elaborate on your Lenbot read please?

[Zander?]

 

@laine  theres something zander does that tips me off that he is scum   but it takes time for me to be sure. he did it   now i wait and see

 

only way he is on MY team is if he is town

I kind of figured as much. But I'm warring with the idea that I don't trust you yet and Zander is off (or I'm off?) so. I'm sorry I'm useless idk what i'm thinking

 

 

How am I off iyo?

[Darthe]

Seph still woofin imo, agreed with zander on tina but not willing to vote there yet cause I havent read everything in context.

 

Sili/lenlo is just annoying to read and entirely null.

[Zander?]

@Tina, thanks I have nothing on Matilda yet so appreciate it

 

@Dice,

 

it makes 'sense' I just can't see it as anything other than null for myself

 

Thoughts on Nina BFG?

[Zander?]

@Laine I have the opposite problem, too many people I find 'off' at the moment :(

 

Fwiw I think Seph has randed town since he came back from his break, so the games you had were probably his most recent as mafia. I know before I subbed into Pokemon I had him as lock mafia, but can't remember if I mentioned it in the QT, so in your case even though you don't have much it's more than most. As for including us and not others, I don't know - I'm not a particularly scary player when town, nor do I do particularly well at leading lynches, would need a lot more info to hazard a guess

 

That explanation on Zander actually makes sense and I'll reread later with that in mind.

 

How did what she said make sense and what I said didnt at first?

 

sadface,gif

[Lenlo]

Seph still woofin imo, agreed with zander on tina but not willing to vote there yet cause I havent read everything in context.

 

Sili/lenlo is just annoying to read and entirely null.

So you got nothing from? Not when I tried to talk about something else and he shut it down? Not that hes probably over committing to a wolf read because he knows he cant back out anymore?

 

Why is Seph wolfing? Ive sound I found him odd, but I did that last game to and he was town.

[Zander?]

zander, dear.. can you be more concise with your posts so I don't strangle you?

 

 

That came out mean. Sorry.

 

What I mean is OMG SO MANY POSTS>

 

 

 

 

 

But it will help people read me better imo.

 

I will try to be a little more concise and post a little less but you know what happens when my WIM kicks in....I cant control it....and after my God awful Scum rand streak it feels soooooooooo good to be Town!Zander again!!!!!!

[Zander?]

 

 

 

 

I'll be honest here. I may have to drop out due to the sheer volume of posting. I don't want to, so I'm going to try to hang in and see what happens. For now, I don't really have any strong reads, but I'm liking BFG a bit.

Sorry Lily, I think there are three or four of us who are getting outpaced, so you're not alone in it. I like trying to read you though so do me a favor and try to show yourself when you're free.

When have you ever been able to read me? :P Sure, I'll try.

How much experience do you guys have with each other?

 

Are you both bad at reading each other?

Is this just for her or for either of us?

 

 

Both please.

[Clovdyx]

 

Chris, do you have any other thoughts on Dice?

 

Other than him overly/poorly justifying his Zander read, nothing he's done has really stood out to me.  I think at one point he basically flat out called you town.  Not a huge fan of him kind of holding onto things, but I can understand the thought process behind it. 

 

Right now I would lean town but want to see more. 

 

 

 

Well, you're probably my best bet for mafia at this point, so...thanks?

So was it a typo when you said Sili slinging mud was a 'good look'?

 

 

Not a typo.  Pronoun ambiguity, maybe.  Like I explained to Sili, I wasn't saying SILI looked good for it - I was saying it helped Seph look better.

 

Feeling townie: BFG, Hallia, maybe seph.

Not feeling good about: Zander, Katiora, Silly

 

 

I´m tempted to just follow BFG in this game. 

 

[v] Zander [/v]

 

 

I agree with whoever said it that it looked like Zander asked questions that wouldn´t lead anywhere. 

 

 

 

Feeling townie: BFG, Hallia, maybe seph.
Not feeling good about: Zander, Katiora, Silly


I´m tempted to just follow BFG in this game.

[v] Zander [/v]


I agree with whoever said it that it looked like Zander asked questions that wouldn´t lead anywhere.

Why Katiora?

 

 

I have seen her post excuses like that as mafia before. Maybe she does it as town too? I just didn´t get a good feeling from it. Lily made a similar post but I didn´t get the same feeling from her. I expected her to post like that. Still it doesn´t show her alignment. As I have stated before, I will have trouble with keeping up as well. So I guess it´s all based on a semi meta gut read.

 

 

These are a bad couple of posts from Tina.  The list at the top doesn't look horrible, though Kat seems out of place there.  I don't know if it's because she hadn't said anything...or the placement between two of the more vocal people in the game, and Tina excluding a lot of other really quiet players.

 

The explanation to BFG's question just seems...uninspiring.  I get not having much confidence in it, but she seems to be trying to find reasons to disregard her own feelings?

[Zander?]

 

 

 

What do you mean by how he frames his ideas?  I thought his catch up post was basically meaningless - a big recap that didn't do much to show his thought process, so I don't have an issue with the vote, but I'm not following your explanation.

 

Like how he casts suspicion, and how he says his meta is always like this, and his comments about thread flow that seem like tmi to me.

 

 

Pg 1-3 = Intro lols. Sili gets on Wish for her Q&A (#58). Dont see the problem.

 

 

Pg 4 = Seph made a really weird post (#62). Not wolfy just weird. Im not sure if I read it correctly. I dont get why Sili is saying he and Hallia are easy and necessary reads (#68). Really not sure what thats supposed to mean but it bugs me.

 

Pg 5 = Its way to early for town reads imo. Theres been nothing but jokey intro posts that arnt indicative of anything meaningful. No u (#94). Yo (#99)

 

Pg 6 = Sili abandons an argument I didnt even know was an argument (#102). What? Where is this coming from? Why Laine? Is this last game?! (#106). Seems to me that this page is just people tip toeing around a bush while talking about another bush. Nothing here really... matters.

 

Pg 7-8 = I never found him (#135). :( (#143). Really? I dont think ive seen him D1 mislynched before so I dont know where this acertain is coming from. Though ill agree its dif from last game. Ill have to see how much dif as the game goes (#151). 

 

Pg 9 = Zander caught what I did (#161).  BFG give me your reasoning on why if Seph is wolf Laine isnt. Cause that game out of left field and I really am curious (#171). Its all I ever am dude (#180).

 

Dunno what you mean ref 161.

Pg 10-11 = Jack all. Nothing important cause nothing caught my eye. BFG that reasoning just doesnt stick with me. Its way to small to make that big a claim. No dice (#215). 

 

Pg 12 = If by action you mean jumping at shadows and debating he said she said sure (#229). 

 

Pg 13-15 = Not much. TELL ME WHERE YOU KNOW ME FROM STORK. I MUST KNOW THE STORY (#270). 

 

One thing that bugs me is just Hallia is very... feisty? I dunno its different from what I expect from both alignments for her so im not really using it to judge her just yet. Its just... different.

 

Also im caught up. Eat your heart out.

 

 

I didn't bold stuff I didn't know about. It seems to me like Lenlo is focusing on stuff that is weird but not necessarily wolfy on purpose. At other times it's just a tmi statement like 'jumping at shadows' even though he himself is doing just that I believe - i.e. Hallia is very... feisty?

 

 

It feels like a recap post mostly imo.

 

Im not following your TMI and Hallia part at all.

 

you're allowed to not follow me.

 

 

Answer my question please.

[Zander?]

 

 

 

In case you cant remember, last game was not particularly good game for me on a multitude of levels. Check any of the other games and I can guarantee you, this will appear in the ones where I am not present for the start of D1 or long spans of time. Its how I catch up.

 

My objection here is small, but I think I'm going to be asked about it anyway so I'll explain in advance my impression.  I feel like he is giving too much breath to the dialogue for a villager who thinks I am a wolf. And the last bold reads almost like he is trying to excuse himself.

 

Again, a small thing. There is lot's of variance in such tonal reads.

 

 

Is it just me or is Sili using too many words?

 

Like Town Sili normally posts a lot of small quick blurbs whereas this game he seems to be expanding more...

 

Its a little weird to me.

 

 

I have played many games more thoughtful than spontaneous.

 

 

I dont really recall them and we've played together a fair bit.

[Zander?]

 

 

 

 

 

ummmmm what?

 

Obvious typo is obvious.

 

 

.........................

[Zander?]

 

 

 

 

 

Third, you haven't done anything else to explain why you changed you rmind.

 

Seph's attitude started to remind me of last game more I thought about it. I had doubts and thought Wish's focus on her Q&A was wolfier. Though Wish's response to my vote was good.

 

 

I think you said this earlier in the game irt to me unless Im thinking someone else...???

 

Im catching up now.  Ill try to go back later and look to see if it fits into your progression on him if Im remembering correctly.

 

 

I told y'all not to have 20 damn pages.

 

I'm home, gonna watch Game of Thrones and eat then I'll catch up. Sili you gonna be around for a bit? Chris?

Sure.

 

You seem like town.

 

 

How so?

 

 

Nothing much to it. Her posts felt spontaneous and town was my reaction.

 

 

This is pretty weak imo.

[Zander?]

ZANDER THAT GOT

 

Adding Derf to my not wtl pile. Not a town read yet, but not scummy

 

IM ABOOT TO WATCH IT EH!!!!

 

Just trying to get caught up some first!!!!!

[Clovdyx]

 

 

I said you were probably my best bet.  That doesn't mean I think you're mafia.  All it means is I think you're more likely than most other people.  And I feel like I made it very clear that I didn't understand your argument with Seph, and you refusing to explain anything doesn't exactly inspire confidence.  

 

 

You don't understand why it matters to me that you seem like you're lying?  

 

 

After seeing what youve been posting Chris it does kinda seem like you think Sili is Scum tho...

 

 

 

 

 

I said you were probably my best bet. That doesn't mean I think you're mafia. All it means is I think you're more likely than most other people. And I feel like I made it very clear that I didn't understand your argument with Seph, and you refusing to explain anything doesn't exactly inspire confidence.


You don't understand why it matters to me that you seem like you're lying?

After seeing what youve been posting Chris it does kinda seem like you think Sili is Scum tho...

I was positive he thought sili was a wolf, just off the bit i read

 

 

 

 

 

 

I said you thought you might be kicking dirt on him.  That pretty much implies you're deliberately trying to make him look scummy when he doesn't.  Unless I think you're doing that as town for the fun of it (spoiler: I don't), that should give SOME idea of my take on your alignment at this point.

You said, I felt better about 'him' in a sentence where the only subject was me. And idk. It didn't seem like you had established such a strong wolf read of me to busy yourself with post-flip speculation.

 

 

You're right - I did.  It was at the end of a paragraph where I was explaining why I feel good about Seph.  Beyond that, you can't possibly have thought I was saying "Sili is kicking dirt on Seph to see if anything sticks, which makes Sili good."

 

I don't need a strong read on you for association.  I think your case was garbage and was more likely meant to make him look bad than be a genuine argument against him.  That's not typically done to somebody who is town.  I'll give you that you would have no way of knowing Seph's alignment as town but I'm willing to play the odds.

 

 

Chris can you dumb this down for me man?

Like the whole Sili thing.

 

Cause everything youre saying read to me like you do think Sili is Scum but you earlier said you didnt say that.

 

But everything im reading indicates to me that you do.

 

Basically please make yourself easier for me to read brother.

 

<3 <3 <3

 

 

Sure.  Basically, there's a fine line between "this person is mafia and should die" and "I don't know if this person is mafia, but I'm not liking what I'm seeing."  You're both correct that there's no reason to think I was looking at Sili POSITIVELY - I wasn't, and I don't see an argument for that.  But I also wasn't ready to burn him alive, either.

 

And at this point, I'm not sure that read really matters at all.  I still think his interactions with Seph were bad, but Sili and I don't always work well together (to put it lightly), and the fact that he was even here trying to argue the point with me is a good sign for him.  I think it was Nyn's game I followed where he was mafia.  Cory and I basically sat in the spec and threw darts at his picture because he made like fifty posts all game - and that wasn't the first time he's flaked as mafia.  That was immediately after Mafia Karts, where he outposted Zander by a couple hundred.

 

As much as I would love for Sili to be mafia here, I'm not sure he goes from a complete aversion to playing as scum to leading the thread in a month.  

[Zander?]

Oh and I'm kinda read up... I skimmed to be honest. I keep getting interrupted at work this morning and it's really hard to read through some of the spam. I skimmed the first 10ish pages and tried to read more the farther in I got. SOOOOO much info though.

 

Currently I can't say that I have a lot in the way of reads. I hope zander is not mafia because I seriously rely too much on his reads since I've come back. I know one day he will end up being mafia and it will screw me over, but he's such a good town, most of the time. Except for when he's not. This is the first game I've played with Sili that he actually posted makes me think he's more town because as mafia he had like 35 posts for the whole game and he was alive for most of it lol. BFG i have no clue. Dice I"m leaning more town just because that's how I feel but that is subject to change suddenly. Hallia is being her normal self. Not sure what that means yet lol, but just from what i've seen I'm leaning more town. The rest... I have no clue.. I don't know most of you peoples.... lol 

 

This type of post is on par with Town!Kat.

 

OFC Im not sure what her Scum game looks like,

 

Well if youre Town here Kat you have no worries about me.  But I can have bad reads like last game where I had all Town D1 in my WTL...so make sure you try to figure things out yourself the best you can.

 

If youre Scum just be obv Scum so I can Lunch you up please!!!

[Zander?]

PG 26.

 

Not really following this Lenlo Sili thing.

 

If it wasnt for Sili's involvement level Id be a lot more worried about him and Lenlo's hasnt done anything to ping me atp but this feels mostly pointless to me.

 

Am I missing something?

[Zander?]

Ok I am caught up, but unfortunately I am not sure how much I will be around today, its robin's day off.

 

@ laine 

yea my intro post was all jokey except for the halli bit, I gave her a slight town read because she was posting comfortably.

I saw a couple of people post about my lainey/bfg comment and I could have sworn I played mafia against bfg, though I could definitely be remembering the Pokemon game, because I do remember her freaking me out when she subbed in calling me mafia lol.

 

I liked a few responses from lenlo these last few pages

alanna catch up was pretty spot on for town her, giving her a town read for it alone.

If I had to guess sili would be town more often than mafia with how he is playing so far, I am still a bit uneasy there though

 

 

My goal today is to actually reread and make some notes, because I am still unsure about zander.

I initially thought clov was framing sili in a good light until the started going back and fourth with each other. 

dice's reads concern me a bit. I doubt a town dice throws out a read of zander off of hardly nothing, I would expect him to be more cautious which I am not seeing at all here. This kinda goes back when he mentored me, and got onto m about town reading people early on without reason. I have been reading him extremely terrible but I definitely think his game is different than his last 2 town games.

niniel had a post that screamed town to me

 

town

Bfg

 

slight town

niniel

alanna

 

better than null

sili

lenlo 

 

zander.dice,clov are definitely people I want to get a better handle on

I almost wanna call clov town, for his town read on me alone. I am going to read our last game on perc soon to see if he did this, but I don't think him as mafia would ever make me one of his strongest town reads. because I am not always clear and concise and I am easy to misinterpret/push when I am not.

 

Town!DIce throws easy Town!Zander reads a fair bit.

 

I know he was asked about it but the fact he gave explanations worries me more then him just saying it tbqh...lololololol

 

Now your Nina post is gonna require quite a bit of explanation so please quote and get back to me on this...

 

What exactly about me is bothering you?

[Zander?]

Woof seph, woof

 

Can you explain more Darthe?

 

 

 

 

what did i do wrong seph?

 

Dear God...where to start....prolly when you chose Cavs?

 

 

 

*shakes head* *stabs zander* *tongue* nothing wrong with Cavs you latrine lover....

 

 

Gah the amounts of posts so far is crazy. I am not gonna lie and say I've read the thread lol. I started reading and about the time I got to page 7ish I was like..... How many pages are there?!? And I just skipped to the end.... I'll try read through and post associated posts tomorrow when I get to work and I'm not on my phone.

 

P.s. Zander did it...... Whatever IT is.

 

<.<

 

>.>

 

I've read up to this point, but I can't say any of it sunk in. And yes, I agree. Zander did it. :P

 

 

And the D.O. just agreed with me *sighs* 

 

Feeling townie: BFG, Hallia, maybe seph.

Not feeling good about: Zander, Katiora, Silly

 

 

I´m tempted to just follow BFG in this game. 

 

[v] Zander [/v]

 

 

I agree with whoever said it that it looked like Zander asked questions that wouldn´t lead anywhere. 

 

 

 

Feeling townie: BFG, Hallia, maybe seph.

Not feeling good about: Zander, Katiora, Silly

 

 

I´m tempted to just follow BFG in this game.

 

[v] Zander [/v]

 

 

I agree with whoever said it that it looked like Zander asked questions that wouldn´t lead anywhere.

Why Katiora?

 

 

 

 

 

Feeling townie: BFG, Hallia, maybe seph.

Not feeling good about: Zander, Katiora, Silly

 

 

I´m tempted to just follow BFG in this game.

 

[v] Zander [/v]

 

 

I agree with whoever said it that it looked like Zander asked questions that wouldn´t lead anywhere.

Why Katiora?

 

 

I have seen her post excuses like that as mafia before. Maybe she does it as town too? I just didn´t get a good feeling from it. Lily made a similar post but I didn´t get the same feeling from her. I expected her to post like that. Still it doesn´t show her alignment. As I have stated before, I will have trouble with keeping up as well. So I guess it´s all based on a semi meta gut read.

 

<.< 

 

I haven't played in three years before this... maybe more.. not sure the last time I played before coming back here a few months ago. I've played in 3? games maybe... and I've been Vanilla town or TownDoc... Haven't been scum at all. So no clue where she gets this from??? *shrugs* You can ask Zander.. He's played every game i've played. And so has Dice, and I think Hallia... I literally can't remember what it's like to be mafia lol 

 

@Tina, thanks I have nothing on Matilda yet so appreciate it

 

@Dice,

 

it makes 'sense' I just can't see it as anything other than null for myself

 

LOL MATILDA!!!! Love the autocorrect! BAHAHAHA Maybe that's who Nin thought they were talkin bout... lol 

 

 

If that is true then I have you confused with someone else. Sorry. 

 

 

This is just plain bad imo.

[Zander?]

Don't do that! There's lots to comment on, and you said yourself you only skimmed a lot - DO ETTTR

 

^^^^^^^^^^^^^

[Zander?]

I think it's town on town

 

 

And they're nitpicking

 

The more HalliaGOAT talks....the more I feel like shes my Town!HalliaGOAT

 

<3 <3 <3

[Clovdyx]

 

 

 

 

 

Pg 1-3 = Intro lols. Sili gets on Wish for her Q&A (#58). Dont see the problem. 

 

Pg 4 = Seph made a really weird post (#62). Not wolfy just weird. Im not sure if I read it correctly. I dont get why Sili is saying he and Hallia are easy and necessary reads (#68). Really not sure what thats supposed to mean but it bugs me.

 

Pg 5 = Its way to early for town reads imo. Theres been nothing but jokey intro posts that arnt indicative of anything meaningful. No u (#94). Yo (#99)

 

Pg 6 = Sili abandons an argument I didnt even know was an argument (#102). What? Where is this coming from? Why Laine? Is this last game?! (#106). Seems to me that this page is just people tip toeing around a bush while talking about another bush. Nothing here really... matters.

 

Pg 7-8 = I never found him (#135). :( (#143). Really? I dont think ive seen him D1 mislynched before so I dont know where this acertain is coming from. Though ill agree its dif from last game. Ill have to see how much dif as the game goes (#151). 

 

Pg 9 = Zander caught what I did (#161).  BFG give me your reasoning on why if Seph is wolf Laine isnt. Cause that game out of left field and I really am curious (#171). Its all I ever am dude (#180).

 

Pg 10-11 = Jack all. Nothing important cause nothing caught my eye. BFG that reasoning just doesnt stick with me. Its way to small to make that big a claim. No dice (#215). 

 

Pg 12 = If by action you mean jumping at shadows and debating he said she said sure (#229). 

 

Pg 13-15 = Not much. TELL ME WHERE YOU KNOW ME FROM STORK. I MUST KNOW THE STORY (#270). 

 

One thing that bugs me is just Hallia is very... feisty? I dunno its different from what I expect from both alignments for her so im not really using it to judge her just yet. Its just... different.

 

Also im caught up. Eat your heart out.

 

 

 

 

What issue do you have with early town reads?  I would argue you can learn a lot by people's comfort in the thread early on and who they interact with.  Beyond that, do you think it matters at all for their alignments?  

 

You can argue the TMI angle, but that would be one hell of a claim.

 

What do you typically expect from Hallia?  I don't think she's been particularly feisty at all so far, and I really don't know that I think she's significantly different than what I'd have expected.  A decent amount of posts when she was active, some ideas, a lot of light heartedness.

 

It was page 4. Thats very early to have a read of any real strength imo. As for alignments, depends on the person. Someone could easily be trying to buddy up or try to set a precedent for town reading someone by saying they townread them way before.

 

I wasnt arguing TMI? I just disagree with the post and I find it a weird one to make. At worst its painting seph as a wolf without any real backing to it.

 

The type of lightheartedness. Maybe im wrong, I wasnt using it to judge alignment. Ive never been good at reading her and if your read this correctly youd know there was no attempt made at reading her. 

 

I know you didn't try to argue it was TMI.  I'm saying that's the only possible reason I can understand for having an issue with early town reads, beyond "it's just not enough for a read."  If that's the argument you're using, I don't see how it's alignment indicative....which I thought you were kind of getting at.

 

Based on this, it seems I was wrong.  Which means you pointing it out means nothing.

 

I did read it correctly, and I know you said you didn't attribute her play with her town game or scum game.  What I don't know is why you felt the need to point it out.  

 

 

 

Seph is the person I feel best about at this point.  It's definitely not an incredibly strong read, but solid.  I like how he came out swinging against Sili, especially consideirng Sili's argument made no sense, and I don't feel he was stumbling over himself trying to answer questions about it.  I kinda think Sili was kicking dirt on him to see if it would stick, which is a good look for him too.

 

I really don't understand why anybody has an issue with BFG's argument about Seph/Alanna.  I said before I would guess she's probably right, and I would stand by that even if I didn't feel particularly good about Seph.  I can't rule out the possibility Mafia!Seph wrote it with the deliberate intention of townspewing a teammate, but I would be very, very surprised if that's the case.  More importantly, I think that's a pro-town observation for her to make.  The only way that thought comes from a mafia motivation is if all three of them are mafia together and she's looking for something to clear one of Alanna/Seph in case the other one dies, since Mafia!BFG would essentially be forced to clear town!Alanna if Seph is a teammate and clear Seph as town should Alanna flip mafia.

It feels like a sketch post. Im not using it to push her nor am I going after her for it, so I dont understand what your problem is with me having a problem with it. Its not the basis for any case or read.

 

 

That's EXACTLY what my problem is with it.  You say it's sketchy.  That's fine - we can agree to disagree.  But I've explained why it would come from a town perspective, and you're saying it doesn't matter.  Again, if that's the case, why even mention it?

 

 

Maybe because there isnt anything outright wolfy? For me to focus on wolfy things those wolfy things would have to exist. So go find me some wolfy things from the first 15 pages I could have focused on instead of what I believe were odd things from certain people I sorta know.

 

Is the Hallia thing jumping at shadows? There was no case there. No alignment decision made. It was a comment that I think your now trying to paint in a bad light.

 

For the first quote: Lol what? Which suspicion casting? Where did I say my meta was always like X? Because I never said. All I did was say this isnt the first time ive made WoTs, heck its not even a meta thing its just catching up. Finally point out to me the TMI's specifically. Give me explanations as to why they are TMIs, cause atm its just you pointing fingers.

 

 

Pretty much your entire catch up post was "this is odd, but not scummy".  You're using a lot of words to say nothing, and you can say that you're not making a case, but that post was one giant collection of tiny pokes and prods that don't make much sense for a true nullread - unless you're using them as a stepping stone.

 

And you're not.