[Basic] I <3 the 90's Mafia: Music Edition - TOWN WINS!

[Zander?]

I'm pretty sure I already elaborated on everything you just quoted, Zander, you're pages behind

 

and you call me out for being behind? Pot calling the kettle black here much?

 

When did I call you out for that?

 

i havenet been sussing you for awhile?

 

wtf are you even on about here?

[Guest]

On the "not being lynched today" part

[Zander?]

I was townreading Wish before I fell behind, so I'm going to 

 

Vote Seph

 

Voting for the sake of voting?

[Darthe]

 

 

 

 

Hi Bessie, don't think I've gotten a chance to read you yet aorn

 

What's your read of Zander and seph? Niniel?

Hi wish, most haven't.

 

On zander I'll answer d2 if still alive - he's not being lynched today. Seph is scum imo and my vote will stay there. Niniel is my second most probably scum.

Okay, why do you think that Seph and Niniel are scum together at this point?

you can think two people are scum without linking them... Jesus its d1 for gods sake

That's precisely why you link them preflip and then reevaluate after one flips. I think it's mostly useless to look at wolf spew b/c once a wolf knows they're going down, any experienced one would automatically enter antispew mode.

This is true but tbf if you say everything you think not only will people hate you but youll also always get lynched. It'is too much obfuscation and change.

[wish-tree]

I've actually played very little and most people would consider me a noob

 

My rand luck is pretty awful and I rand consistently 50/50 as scum or town

 

I've been 3P exactly once, and that was in a pretty weird game

 

This is a gambler's fallacy, but I usually rand town mafia town mafia town etc, exactly in that order, my longest rand streak has been two games

[seph]

 

 

 

 

Hi Bessie, don't think I've gotten a chance to read you yet aorn

 

What's your read of Zander and seph? Niniel?

Hi wish, most haven't.

 

On zander I'll answer d2 if still alive - he's not being lynched today. Seph is scum imo and my vote will stay there. Niniel is my second most probably scum.

 

Okay, why do you think that Seph and Niniel are scum together at this point?

 

you can think two people are scum without linking them... Jesus its d1 for gods sake

 

That's precisely why you link them preflip and then reevaluate after one flips. I think it's mostly useless to look at wolf spew b/c once a wolf knows they're going down, any experienced one would automatically enter antispew mode.

 

lol what. lololol

you look at wolfspew once they flip wolf, and of couse you ignore antispew before they were lynched

[dicetosser1]

 

Dice vote on me is extremely horrible

besie is meh my opinion here is likely based off of omgus but I haven't see anything towny from her. I would like to hear why she is reading everyone town, who she has there.

 

Id be surprised if anyone really had a read on Besie as of right now tbqh.

 

Dice's vote did come right out of left field

 

 

poor little wolfie doesnt like being voted by the big bad dice? tough. Try explaining why u think its horrible. if you have from page 98 to 113 i havent read those yet

 

blue  and?? I read the game too you know

 

 

 

 

 

That dice post is very bad.

 

Its not good,

 

But its not TOTALLY unlike Dice tho.

 

Can those who are Town reading Dice tell me why?

 

 

which post are you talking about here sili? and which post did you post it in regards to zander? Context matters guys.

 

blue   Cause im Town LDO!

 

 

I would realy like a wish or dice lynch tbh

 

I bet you would. Guess what youre not getting? 

 

 

 

im goin back to bed then   its 5am and i have a headache

 

Come on man.

 

Youre not showing OBV Town!Dice, give me some more to work with man.

 

 

Bite me. @key  can we set the next DL so its at 5am on a Friday Zander time please? Zander I expect you here bright eyed and bushy tailed

 

if anyone cares, I have literally been softing spice girls all game

 

i dont care

 

 

lol dice your vote on me was so freaking horrific. not the vote itself but the fabricated reasons

 

really?  you poked at me at the beginniong  u called halliu ure town buddy  you then left her off ure list u then put her as slight town.  you did these things i voted you.

[Guest]

Wait wait why is wish being lynched ???

It seemed like someone said something and it spiralled. >>

 

I've no case on wish as yet, so I'm not following that path. Yet. I'll look into it d2.

[wish-tree]

 

 

 

 

 

Hi Bessie, don't think I've gotten a chance to read you yet aorn

 

What's your read of Zander and seph? Niniel?

Hi wish, most haven't.

 

On zander I'll answer d2 if still alive - he's not being lynched today. Seph is scum imo and my vote will stay there. Niniel is my second most probably scum.

Okay, why do you think that Seph and Niniel are scum together at this point?

you can think two people are scum without linking them... Jesus its d1 for gods sake

That's precisely why you link them preflip and then reevaluate after one flips. I think it's mostly useless to look at wolf spew b/c once a wolf knows they're going down, any experienced one would automatically enter antispew mode.

This is true but tbf if you say everything you think not only will people hate you but youll also always get lynched. It'is too much obfuscation and change.

 

I have a habit of saying everything I think and not giving any crap as to what people make of it, if they try to lynch me I will hammer their wolfy behinds home and ship it to them in a package, done up with army tape

[Zander?]

 

 

 

 

I can actually see seph/Zander now, which means Niniel is probably town 

 

What is your read on Nina based on ONLY her game?

 

based on only her game, I already said so

 

in terms of wolfiness:

 

you>Seph>Niniel

 

y'all are pretty wolfy, but I don't think that you/Niniel are teamed, Niniel/Seph are teamed, so that's why I'm town reading her

 

 

Again I have trouble believing youre this confident you found 2 wolves D1.

 

Well remove your "associated" reads youd have thought youd have 3.....

 

You don't believe I'm this confident I found 2 wolves d1?

 

EXCUSE ME?

 

I HARD PUSH WHEN I AM CONFIDENT

 

I'VE BEEN GOING AFTER YOU SINCE I'VE STARTED TO CATCH UP

 

I read people as separately scummy w/out connection, but unless this is a multiball game (pretty sure it is not like Tress's game b/c I randed town), I'm going to assume the less scummy person is town if there's a world where they're never together.

 

You saw how I was in our mash together. I only was this confident later on in the game, and pushed owner, then backed off of her. I always backed off, I did a push in order to be town read and to look like I was doing work. Here I actually believe in my reads. 

 

How can you even say this without flinching?

 

 

I dont care about your push.

 

I care more about that you think you found 2 wolves.  Like youre acting like you cant be wrong and that concerns me.

 

This is pretty basic stuff imo

[BFG]

Catch up post, lots of 'null/weird' reads that he doesn't do much with. Keeps saying it was meant to be spoilered, not sure what the point in that is

 

I don't hate that he mentions Laine being absent following his stance on me.

 

Doesn't want to lynch Seph for bad reasons

 

I don't like his reaction to Sili, seems to start finding him scummy yet doesn't pursue it, this isn't the town Lenlo from Ragnarok/Belichick/etc

 

Vote on Sili is frustrated more than anything

 

I'm skimming super fast so may have missed something but I don't recall him explaining his read on Niniel, just called her wolfy

 

Pretty sure Lenlo should know that rapid vote changes is a town tell for Sili (at a crude level)

[keyholder21]

Official Vote Count:

 

Seph (6) - Darthe, Besie, dice, Wistork, Lenlo, Lily

Wistork (5) - Seph, Zander, Sili, Hallia, Katiora

Lenlo (3) - alannalynn, Niniel, Clov,

 

Not Voting (2) - BFG, Lizabeth, 

 

With 16 alive, it takes 9 to lynch. 

 

DEADLINE: Wednesday, June 8, 4:30pm CST
 

[keyholder21]

TEN MINUTES TO DEADLINE.

[wish-tree]

 

 

 

 

 

Hi Bessie, don't think I've gotten a chance to read you yet aorn

 

What's your read of Zander and seph? Niniel?

Hi wish, most haven't.

 

On zander I'll answer d2 if still alive - he's not being lynched today. Seph is scum imo and my vote will stay there. Niniel is my second most probably scum.

 

Okay, why do you think that Seph and Niniel are scum together at this point?

 

you can think two people are scum without linking them... Jesus its d1 for gods sake

 

That's precisely why you link them preflip and then reevaluate after one flips. I think it's mostly useless to look at wolf spew b/c once a wolf knows they're going down, any experienced one would automatically enter antispew mode.

 

lol what. lololol

you look at wolfspew once they flip wolf, and of couse you ignore antispew before they were lynched

 

 

Nononooooo

 

ugh

 

before a wolf knows they're going down, they're going to be less cautious with how they treat their scum partner, therefore, associations are easier to make, that's why I made the associative reads of you so early while going through your iso

 

When they know they're going down, antispew is best case, falsespew is maybe even better, which is why you saying Nin could be your scum partner NOW makes me entirely dubious.

[Zander?]

 

 

 

 

 

as a wolf I wouldn't ever sacrifice a wolfmate, and is usually the main reason I get suspected. I only buss when there is no hope, and it usually gets me sussed

that's the point, which is why Niniel is probably not scum here b/c of how easily the wagon got started and no staunch defenders coming up

 

you would never know that though, so you would have no incentive to write that about me.

I also have sussed nina and not voted her, so if I was a wolf why would it rule her out?

 

 

wolf sacrificing IS NEVER A GOOD IDEA D1. Power wolfing and no bussing is the best way to go.

 

unless you're Zander, which is why I'm not going to say that he couldn't treat Niniel like this, but instead from her end, it looks like she couldn't treat Zander like this if they were together

 

 

Why...I ask this because, what do YOU know of her Scum Meta?

 

How many games have you played with her?

 

when I don't have meta on people I am less biased on how to read them, there are certain behaviors that logically never make sense to do if you are w/w together. That's why I've told you constantly to change your wolfing which is a lot of bussing, because I think that it's not a good long-game strategy. Your wolfing style doesn't make sense to me.

 

I'm assuming that if Niniel is a wolf, she knows that the best way to win is to work together as a team and not bus for cred unless there's absolutely no way to get out of a lynch. That's why typically scum partners only start to betray each other when it's inevitable, and she kept pushing for your lynch even when very little people thought you were scum.

 

 

But thats like saying someone who doesnt know anything about me would be like well Zander wouldnt buss sooo...

 

you see how your logic irt to Nina is so very flawed.

[wish-tree]

 

 

 

 

 

I can actually see seph/Zander now, which means Niniel is probably town 

 

What is your read on Nina based on ONLY her game?

 

based on only her game, I already said so

 

in terms of wolfiness:

 

you>Seph>Niniel

 

y'all are pretty wolfy, but I don't think that you/Niniel are teamed, Niniel/Seph are teamed, so that's why I'm town reading her

 

 

Again I have trouble believing youre this confident you found 2 wolves D1.

 

Well remove your "associated" reads youd have thought youd have 3.....

 

You don't believe I'm this confident I found 2 wolves d1?

 

EXCUSE ME?

 

I HARD PUSH WHEN I AM CONFIDENT

 

I'VE BEEN GOING AFTER YOU SINCE I'VE STARTED TO CATCH UP

 

I read people as separately scummy w/out connection, but unless this is a multiball game (pretty sure it is not like Tress's game b/c I randed town), I'm going to assume the less scummy person is town if there's a world where they're never together.

 

You saw how I was in our mash together. I only was this confident later on in the game, and pushed owner, then backed off of her. I always backed off, I did a push in order to be town read and to look like I was doing work. Here I actually believe in my reads. 

 

How can you even say this without flinching?

 

 

I dont care about your push.

 

I care more about that you think you found 2 wolves.  Like youre acting like you cant be wrong and that concerns me.

 

This is pretty basic stuff imo

 

I was thinking that I could be wrong, but after what's been happening in thread for the past few hours, pretty sure that I'm not wrong anymore on either of you. 

[BFG]

[v]Lenlo[/v]

[LilyElizabeth]

 

I was townreading Wish before I fell behind, so I'm going to 

 

Vote Seph

 

Voting for the sake of voting?

 

 

Zander, I can't win with you. If I didn't vote, you'd have issues with that. 

[seph]

 

 

Dice vote on me is extremely horrible

besie is meh my opinion here is likely based off of omgus but I haven't see anything towny from her. I would like to hear why she is reading everyone town, who she has there.

 

Id be surprised if anyone really had a read on Besie as of right now tbqh.

 

Dice's vote did come right out of left field

 

 

poor little wolfie doesnt like being voted by the big bad dice? tough. Try explaining why u think its horrible. if you have from page 98 to 113 i havent read those yet

 

blue  and?? I read the game too you know

 

 

 

 

 

That dice post is very bad.

 

Its not good,

 

But its not TOTALLY unlike Dice tho.

 

Can those who are Town reading Dice tell me why?

 

 

which post are you talking about here sili? and which post did you post it in regards to zander? Context matters guys.

 

blue   Cause im Town LDO!

 

 

I would realy like a wish or dice lynch tbh

 

I bet you would. Guess what youre not getting? 

 

 

 

im goin back to bed then   its 5am and i have a headache

 

Come on man.

 

Youre not showing OBV Town!Dice, give me some more to work with man.

 

 

Bite me. @key  can we set the next DL so its at 5am on a Friday Zander time please? Zander I expect you here bright eyed and bushy tailed

 

if anyone cares, I have literally been softing spice girls all game

 

i dont care

 

lol dice your vote on me was so freaking horrific. not the vote itself but the fabricated reasons

 

really?  you poked at me at the beginniong  u called halliu ure town buddy  you then left her off ure list u then put her as slight town.  you did these things i voted you.

 

im not really worried, you will probably die after me :)

sorry bud. your one who has never read me correctly either.

 

I just want dice dead d2 honestly

[Guest]

 

anyways.

dice/liz/wish are probably my top 3 suspects if I die. then besie

So... tell me what you want... what you really really want..

Zig zag ah!

 

 

Now it's stuck in my head. If you wanna be my lover...

 

[wish-tree]

 

 

 

 

 

 

as a wolf I wouldn't ever sacrifice a wolfmate, and is usually the main reason I get suspected. I only buss when there is no hope, and it usually gets me sussed

that's the point, which is why Niniel is probably not scum here b/c of how easily the wagon got started and no staunch defenders coming up

 

you would never know that though, so you would have no incentive to write that about me.

I also have sussed nina and not voted her, so if I was a wolf why would it rule her out?

 

 

wolf sacrificing IS NEVER A GOOD IDEA D1. Power wolfing and no bussing is the best way to go.

 

unless you're Zander, which is why I'm not going to say that he couldn't treat Niniel like this, but instead from her end, it looks like she couldn't treat Zander like this if they were together

 

 

Why...I ask this because, what do YOU know of her Scum Meta?

 

How many games have you played with her?

 

when I don't have meta on people I am less biased on how to read them, there are certain behaviors that logically never make sense to do if you are w/w together. That's why I've told you constantly to change your wolfing which is a lot of bussing, because I think that it's not a good long-game strategy. Your wolfing style doesn't make sense to me.

 

I'm assuming that if Niniel is a wolf, she knows that the best way to win is to work together as a team and not bus for cred unless there's absolutely no way to get out of a lynch. That's why typically scum partners only start to betray each other when it's inevitable, and she kept pushing for your lynch even when very little people thought you were scum.

 

 

But thats like saying someone who doesnt know anything about me would be like well Zander wouldnt buss sooo...

 

you see how your logic irt to Nina is so very flawed.

 

you didn't bus last game, so it's not 100%. In fact, when you don't bus, you act like how I'd expect a wolf to treat their wolf partner. In fact, you spewed me wolf last time in the mash, too bad only lulz noticed it.

[Zander?]

@ Mods

 

Can we get a little ext to DL

[keyholder21]

Official Vote Count:

 

Seph (6) - Darthe, Besie, dice, Wistork, Lenlo, Lily

Wistork (5) - Seph, Zander, Sili, Hallia, Katiora

Lenlo (4) - alannalynn, Niniel, Clov, BFG

 

Not Voting (1) - Lizabeth, 

 

With 16 alive, it takes 9 to lynch. 

 

DEADLINE: Wednesday, June 8, 4:30pm CST
 

[wish-tree]

@ Mods

 

Can we get a little ext to DL

I see how it is

[Hallia]

GET ME FRAAAAAANDS!

 

or move to Nin.