[Advanced]Lost mafia - Game over - Sili, SK wins!

[Thane Vakarian]

if celeste hasnt answered me  or not a good one by 7pm my time i will hammer

I have doubts, but we will see. Miracles may happen, after all.

 

I am heading off to work, so if hammer happens within the next 7-8 hours there may be a delay before I can get a chance to do my writeup.

No problem Don't work too hard

[dicetosser1]

bye sooh!

[dicetosser1]

so thane   whats ure reads list looking like at the mo??

 

you shad me :D   then who?

[Thane Vakarian]

so thane   whats ure reads list looking like at the mo??

 

you shad me :D   then who?

I posted a list on page 171 with recent reads. I feel like that would be accurate. 

[dicetosser1]

ahh  ok   

 

 

you havent got me high enuff but thats ok :D

[Turin Turambar]

 

 

how often do i get to be online at the same time of you seph?  not that often   so how else am i supposed to get you to answer?

true, well if I missed any now is the time.

 

 

except im at work and cant   and wont   dig thru 170 pages because you havent read the game

 

I would think that if your question was really important you would remember them. Similarly if you can't remember AND you aren't willing to look them up then they must really not be very important to you.

 

Your stance here that it is all on him to dig up your question is posing. 

[Turin Turambar]

Celeste from her vote on Besie EoD D2:

 

 

[v]Besie[/v] I'm at work but have little doubts on Turin's claim. As for Besie I don't get why she is voting me. It gives me pause

This is her actually vote on Besie. She doesn't mention anything about self pres. If her vote is self pres then she should be able to deduce that Besie's vote was also at least in part self pres.

 

Still saying she doubt's my claim. fair enough. Her reasoning is bad tho. 

 

 

 

I'm back and I have major thoughts regarding the EoD claim of Turin. I highly doubt Turin is a Town Busdriver mainly because that role is more designed for mafia rather than town. NOW PLEASE ACTUALLY READ THIS POST OF MINE DESPITE MY SELF PRES VOTE EARLIER. I saw somewhere that it was in the Town of Salem game here which is based on town of salem and I don't think you should take the fact that a town busdriver was in that game when the actual ToS games balance is really bad. I have played there. This makes me think he is scum. It also explains the tmi a bit from earlier. Just look here for the jist of the Bus driver role.
 
http://www.mafiauniverse.com/forums/database/mafia-roles/role/?mafiarole=Bus%20Driver

Ok well, I was leaning town on him without the claim. I'm not going to lynch someone strictly on assumptions about Sooh's set-up.

You're late on your homework.

 

I'm still reading his posts but almost done.

 

Now she is broadcasting that her Besie vote was self pres. So the question becomes how does she not understand that Besie's vote on her was also? 

 

On to throw shade on my TOWN BUS DRIVER claim. pure setup spec and gaming of the mod. ANY role combo can be put into any game and balanced properly as long as the mod works it out. also did you look at the listing on mafiascum that I linked earlier that states pretty clearly that BD is more a town role in part because it can be OP for mafia. I have been a switcher as mafia (and have seen it as a town role) before and can tell you it is nearly OP in mafia hands.  It basically eliminates doc protection as all you have to do is kill someone that isn't getting protected and then switch with the intended target.  As town it is less so because it is harder to coordinate the working of that role with others unless everyone is outed. I have been in a game that as town we were able to coordinate actions and it rekt the wolves pretty effectively.

 

 

Celeste: from your point of view, have you done enough to convince us you're town, or not?

Yes, because I don't see this being how I act when playing as mafia. 

 

Self meta defense is bad

 

I really want people to see my post about Turin. I don't get why people read him as town. It's like the Nolder suspicion I had in WoW.

How is this relevant? you apparently caught one mafia in one game for something. You "case" on me is nothing but "Turin must be mafia because bus driver is only mafia" when that has been shown to not be the truth. 

 

I haven't liked Turin at all. My PoE for now is Turin > Darthe > Zander 2.0. I regret switching to besie but it was out of self pres and nobody was going to trust me on Turin.

Again changing history to say that her Besie vote was self pres. 

Yes, no one believed your case except Dice who had the same thought... where is Dice in your PoE here???

 

I'm pretty fudging tired now. I was trying to keep up today and Zander is a bit more scummy than his previous day so he is moving up in my PoE. Then Dice's reactions to the push on him are really fake and coming from a scum mindset. People aren't listening to my read of Turin still. Right now my PoE is Turin/Dice > Zander > Darthe

[v]Dice[/v]

So you go from voting me (your best mafia read) to voting with me on the person I have been suspecting for basically the entire game??

Do you think that I am bussing him?

Or is this another vote that will be listed as self pres after the fact?

 

 

I think the Dice vote is likely anti spew. 

[Turin Turambar]

ahh  ok   

 

 

you havent got me high enuff but thats ok :D

Why should he have you higher?

 

Why do most of your posts seem to be about yourself? 

[Thane Vakarian]

 

ahh  ok   

 

 

you havent got me high enuff but thats ok :D

Why should he have you higher? 1

 

Why do most of your posts seem to be about yourself? 2

 

1) It would please his self esteem. But I only lock clear people in blue when they are actually 100% lock clear to me. That color green is the best he'll get (for now)

2) It pleases his self esteem and he's Australian....

Just kidding, of course

 

[Sili Quirrels]

[unvote]

[v]Celeste[/v]

[Sili Quirrels]

Like get it over with imo.

[Thane Vakarian]

ok... and thus, we wait.

 

What made you decide to hammer now instead of letting Celeste (perhaps, maybe, possibly) trying to explain some more? 

[Sili Quirrels]

ok... and thus, we wait.

 

What made you decide to hammer now instead of letting Celeste (perhaps, maybe, possibly) trying to explain some more? 

 

I was bored, I saw a bad post of hers, I realized this thread had stalled for the past two days, and I figured nothing would change or maybe I was lazy. I made the vote before I realized it was the hammer vote, but this is a small thing. It took me only a few seconds to realize what I'd done and I'm happy about it.

[Thane Vakarian]

 

ok... and thus, we wait.

 

What made you decide to hammer now instead of letting Celeste (perhaps, maybe, possibly) trying to explain some more? 

 

I was bored, I saw a bad post of hers, I realized this thread had stalled for the past two days, and I figured nothing would change or maybe I was lazy. I made the vote before I realized it was the hammer vote, but this is a small thing. It took me only a few seconds to realize what I'd done and I'm happy about it.

 

Alright, fair enough. We'll see what happens *nods* 

[Sooh]

THAT IS A LYNCH!
 
Seph (1) - Dice
 
Dice (3) - Eldrick, Turin, Celeste
 
Celeste (6) - Thane, Darthe, Zander, Shad, Lenlo, Sili
 
Lenlo (1) - seph
 
Not voting (0): 
 
With 11 alive there are 6 to lynch!
 

[Sooh]

Despite the lack of any survivors being found dead this morning, the crowd was displeased. They did not believe the danger was over and dealt with, and they quickly began to argue amongst themselves. On top of everyone’s list was one man in particular, and the villagers gathered around him, sharpened sticks ready.  Closer and closer to the cliff edge they came. Soon there was barely a foot of solid ground between the man and a 100 foot drop down to a rocky beach.

 

 

 

The man, aptly known as Mr. Friendly, seemed like a nice grandfather really. However, none of the survivors could remember him from the flight, and this made them suspicious.

 

“Explain yourself!” the mob demanded.

 

Before he had the chance to, one member of the crowd moved a little too close and poked the man with a sharp stick. He jumped, and then realized there was no more solid ground beneath his feet. His body was crushed against the stones below.

 

 

 

Celeste was Tom Friendly, mafia full role cop.

 

 

 

[Sili Quirrels]

YES

[Sili Quirrels]

we did it boys. we managed the impossible.

[Thane Vakarian]

Good thing I can still trust my gut here

[Thane Vakarian]

1 down, few more to go. We can do this.

[dicetosser1]

well i see i wasnt needed.

 

good onya sili

[Turin Turambar]

Excellent. 

 

Celeste reread needed now. 

[Thane Vakarian]

I suspect she stayed quiet this game so she wouldn't give us that many hints on her teammates. 

[Turin Turambar]

quick read thru and some possible spewage. 

 

I will try to post quotes before too much longer. Need to file for my state ID number after I talk to Ithi.

 

I think that Eld , Len and me (biased) look better. 

Z2.0, Dice and possibly Sili (weird) looks worse. No credit for the Hammer because She was definitely getting lynched today.

 

Seph some both ways. Darthe also. 

 

We get the Masons confirmed and I think we might be able to lock this up tomorrow. 

 

might be holstering tonight. Might not. 

[Sili Quirrels]

Excellent. 

 

Celeste reread needed now. 

you just did that...