MAFIA KART WII [BASIC] - Mafia Sweep

[Sili Quirrels]

Might have just added the last part to suggest she is always mislynched. And zander rightly points out lack of content. Idk ill have to dig in to garner more.

[Zander?]

 

ill make a note to specifically iso you by tomorrow.

besides darthe is there anyone you want lynched?

Zander but my case against him isn't really good.

 

 

What case Penny?!??!!?!?

[Sili Quirrels]

Before anyone asks... Yes celeste and liz can both be wolves. From what ive read liz has pulled punches and it explains celestes wording in parts.

[Zander?]

 

 

 

@ calder.

you want to build a shrine for me? I would be honored.

Want to explain your shift from serious early D1 to these past few posts?

 

Bc from my end it feels like I reiterated my suspicion about you seeming to overreact and now it feels like forced nonchalance

suspicion? I thought you where trying to pull a rabit out of a hat.

I am not sure why you want anything from me, I am actually pretty terrible at this game.

 

This is a complete 180 from how Seph was earlier in the game. What gives?

 

Liz- Only thing I dont like is that she seems to be reading me with a bias irt to my posts and content but that may just be the fact that she's legit trying to read me.  Other then that she's been the most Towny thus far imo.  I think a lot of what she does has reasoning

 

Darthe- Have agreed with a fair bit of what he's had to say.  I also think with a lot of the back and forths irt to Sili, Celsete. seph, Calder and myself Scum!Darthe had an opportunity to jump on someone and it wouldnt look bad.  That being said I've only seen Darthe Scum in Cory's offsote game where I was a Maf DOc Ghost and he missed of D1 and he exterminated me...and I didnt pay all that much attention to him.

Lainey- As with Liz I like the fact that she seems to be legit trying to read my slot correctly and not wanting to make the same mistake as in Shad's game.  She's been engaged and involved.

 

Clov- Clov seems to be looking at things from all angles and weighing in on things.  Im sure he could do that as either alignment and Clov is obv very likely able to fool me.  But he hasnt dont anything to ping me.  If Clov is still alive come D2-3 ill be very suspect of him.  Im sure he'll love that last comment but its certainly something Ill be looking at.

Hallia- Hasnt been obv Town yet but Ive no problem with her content and I know she's busy in RL, her frustration with Sili felt very genuine to me.

 

 

Calder- Nothing's pinged me but I dont know how to read Calder so Im gonna need some more to go off of to formulate a read.  Havent hated his more recent stuff. 

 

Sili- I disagree with almost everything he's said but I also cant see how Scum!Sili takes this approach.

 

Thane- Liked his reads list but need more.  Thane's evolved his game so not as easy a read as he used to be,

Zev- Nothing to go off of.

 

seph- Strongish start but later when I read his posts they're just kinda blah.  Dont like his Calder reasoning and havent liked his catchup either.  Wanna try to go back and read him over tho.  I aint the best at reading him.

 

Penneh- Ive explained this enough I think and she's yet to do anything to change my opinion atp.  Only thing holding me back from feeling more certain is the fact she's normally Scummy af.

 

I can't hate this list, I probably trust Sili a bit more than you, and I'm still pending a better read on Penny and you (Z) both so that's going. Seph has been falling a little bit on my own list. hmmm

 

 

I dont hate it either, imagine that lol.

 

Im a little confused, youre liking point out things, you like about me, and mostly agree with me on, and that Ive said before you for the most part but yet you find me Scummy?

 

What am I missing?

[alannalynn]

 

 

Zander, what makes you so confident this isn't scum Hallia?  As much as I think Sili is reaching in his case to condemn her, you're either reaching to NOT condemn her or you're seeing something I'm not.  Basically the only thing I've seen from her this game is apparently her being OnVacation!Hallia, which doesn't mean a thing for her alignment either way.

 

When did I say I was confident Hallia wasnt Scum?

 

I would say Im prolly in the upper echelon of Hallia readers, she did fool me in Shad's game but in my defense I wasnt in the best state of mind and Darthe and Lainey had me so far off tilt I didnt really focus on her much and read her mostly off of her defense of lolme.

 

Scum Hallia usually starts off strong, tends to taper off as the game progresses.  She is OMGUS's and snarky well snarky by Hallia standards which is more like a cute puppy when you take its favorite chew toy away.  And tends to be a little more jokey to alleviate pressure and create/force thread presence.

 

I havent seen that yet from her which is a good sign but also knows shes on vacation so Im taking that into consideration on my read of her.

 

Hallia becomes much easier to read as the game progresses and is usually a prime mislynch candidate.

 

Gun to head slight Town read thus far.  Her frustration reads pretty genuine to me but I also know she's on vacation so that makes it ring more true to me. 

 

I think the reasons Sili are foolish so I called it out.  Sili does silliy things for Sili reasons.  And Im trying to determine where he's coming from to help me formulate my read on him.

 

 

Find this confusing. She becomes easier to read while remaining a prime mislynch candidate?

 

This right here Z

 

I actually think as Hally progresses, she becomes a lot clearer and is NOT a mislynch liability.

[Zander?]

 

 

Laine is an INFJ right?

INTJ

 

Ah,

 

yeah your posts have a lot of Ni.

 

We're chill Laine. You are one of my strongest town reads rn.

 

 

 

FML

[Sili Quirrels]

Liz will require some casing. Celeste is safer.

 

[unvote]

[v]celeste[/v]

[alannalynn]

Bold:  What didnt I clarify?  Did you ask me something specific?

 

Really like most of this post.

 

Lainey's seeing eye to eye with me on a lot of things.

 

Especailly irt to Thane and Zev both together and separately

 

Why do you find me Scummy with the 2nd Bold?.

 

Is that the only reason you find him Scummy?

My main issue with you Zander is that I'm missing pieces. I haven't read all of the exchange between you and Celeste so that leaves a huge gap in my read of you, unfortunately. It sucks that this is such a busy game or I would have gone though that in detail already but that's just how things are.

 

If I can get to the point that I'm town reading you, I'll also feel better in a Hally read by association. I haven't exactly hated her posts this game but it's something I need to look over as well

[Zander?]

 

 

 

 

. Darthe  Town

4. Sili Quirrels- Town, I don't see how sili is mafia this game. if he is kudos

3. Zander- zander was pushing celeste on a few things I noticed, and I liked a few things he and alanna talked about. I had him as a stronger town read despite the tunnel.

10. Lizabeth- town- I would look at liz more carefully if i had time.

7. alannalynn-slight town

 

5. Zevrynne-derp. if caldur is mafia then town

6. Calder-meh want to lean town from a few posts. but meh

8. Clovdyx having a hard time reading him. He is down here just from poe

2. Thane Vakarian

2. Hallia  I suck at reading her- null

11. Celeste- I remember having alot of issues with her tone, and I like some of the points zander brought up.

 

 

I don't think i am ever lynching darthe sili or zander this game

You want to lynch from nulls and people you don't read well and those you need to read up more on?

 

.....

 

 

well I don't think lynching from my town is a good idea do you

 

That's not the point I was making.

It's one thing saying "I have a scum read on this person and I'm wtl them because x, y, z" but it's entirely different to day "these are my towns" and "these are my nulls/people I don't read well, let's lynch from this group"

 

 

5. Zevrynne-derp. if caldur is mafia then town

6. Calder-meh want to lean town from a few posts. but meh

8. Clovdyx having a hard time reading him. He is down here just from poe

2. Thane Vakarian

2. Hallia  I suck at reading her- null

11. Celeste- I remember having alot of issues with her tone, and I like some of the points zander brought up.

Zev: exactly null

 

Calder: "I want him to be town from a few posts but I'm still wtl him"

 

Clov: can't read him, so he's poe

 

Thane.

 

Hally: I suck at reading her, let's lynch her

 

Celeste: bad tone and zander makes sense

 

Literally the ONLY real scum read you have is Celeste because that's the only one you gave a reason on

 

 

This is pretty accurate imo

[alannalynn]

Ummm lemme see if I can do a VC before I got to bed >_>

[Sili Quirrels]

Ill be open to lynching zev tomorrow if he has not come back.

[Zander?]

[v]liz[/v]

 

Have you sussed and voted more or less then 50% of the players in this game?

 

 

I'm having trouble reading that post of hers properly due to sentence structure, tbh

 

[Zander?]

That celeste quote zander brought is ugly.

 

Do you mean her post or my response to it?

[Sili Quirrels]

Liz you darthe laine hallia celeste seph

 

More than half.

[Sili Quirrels]

Her post

[Sili Quirrels]

Gott sus them all to be the very best like no one ever was.

[Zander?]

 

 

 

Find this confusing. She becomes easier to read while remaining a prime mislynch candidate?

 

This right here Z

 

I actually think as Hally progresses, she becomes a lot clearer and is NOT a mislynch liability.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Hallia becomes much easier to read as the game progresses and is usually a prime mislynch candidate.

 

Find this confusing. She becomes easier to read while remaining a prime mislynch candidate?

 

 

Hallia can't keep up her Town persona as Scum for very long.

 

Some people read her well and some don't, Scum and those that dont make her a prime mislynch candidate early on.

 

I've caught Scum Hallia D1 like within the first 10 - 20 posts from her before but NOBODY would believed me because it was a Meta read.

 

It took a couple days for the rest of the game to see it.

 

Does this make more sense to you now?

 

 

 

Anything else?

[alannalynn]

Vote Count

 

Seph - 2 - Calder, Clovdyx

Sili - 1 - Darthe

Calder - 3 - Zevrynne, seph, Lizabeth

Penny - 1 - Zander

Zevrynne - 1 - Lizabeth

Hallia - 1 - Sili Quirrels

 

Not Voting: Hallia, alannalynn, Thane Vakarian

 

Deadline will be 9:00 PM E/ST on 4/21 (Thursday).

 

This is what I have, if I missed a vote/unvote, somebody else can change it..

#800 Sili unvotes

#801 Sili votes Zander

#958 Sili unvotes, Votes Alanna

#1045 Seph unvotes

#1236 Liz votes Seph

#1242 Darthe unvotes, votes Celeste

#1286 Celeste votes Darthe

#1372 Sili unvotes

#1366 Seph votes Celeste

#1393 Sili votes Seph

#1397 Sili unvotes

#1406 Sili votes Liz

#1432 Sili unvotes, votes Celeste

 

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UNOFFICIAL VOTE COUNT

Seph - 3 - Calder, Clovdyx, Lizabeth

Calder - 1 - Zevrynne,

Celeste- 4 - Zander, Darthe, seph, Sili

Zevrynne - 1 - Lizabeth

Darthe - 1 -  Celeste

 

Not Voting: Hallia, Alanna, Thane

[Sili Quirrels]

Need 3 more

[Zander?]

 

Bold:  What didnt I clarify?  Did you ask me something specific?

 

Really like most of this post.

 

Lainey's seeing eye to eye with me on a lot of things.

 

Especailly irt to Thane and Zev both together and separately

 

Why do you find me Scummy with the 2nd Bold?.

 

Is that the only reason you find him Scummy?

My main issue with you Zander is that I'm missing pieces. I haven't read all of the exchange between you and Celeste so that leaves a huge gap in my read of you, unfortunately. It sucks that this is such a busy game or I would have gone though that in detail already but that's just how things are.

 

If I can get to the point that I'm town reading you, I'll also feel better in a Hally read by association. I haven't exactly hated her posts this game but it's something I need to look over as well

 

 

 

Fair enough.

 

Please lmk when you are caught up and tell me what you think.

[alannalynn]

Not for now, Z. I need to reread that exchange with you two, which will have to wait until morning.

 

FYI, I will NOT be around for deadline, I have to go to a dinner tomorrow night for this stupid honor society and I have to dress up and be social and I hate it.

[alannalynn]

I'm "caught up" but not in the sense that I've read everything, if that makes sense. If I took the time to read every post in detail and study sections of the game like I want to, I'll still be reading this damn game next year.

[Celeste]

 

sup people.

I saw a couple things I wanted to respond to if I remember them right.

@zander- regarding thane I really didn't like his catch up post, which is why I left him where I did.

 

@ liz I don't really understand how you vote with your leading scum suspect? it;s pretty fishy

 

regarding clov I think I could move him up to a solid town for me after isoing him. He has touched on most of the key subjects ITT, and been leading a few of the discussions I thought were important. Besides his read on me, I agree with him on most subjects here.

 

Which one?

 

The reads list?

 

What about it did you not like?

 

 

seriously I don't think laine should be a lynch candidate.

 

I think I was wrong about one of zander/sili not sure which one.

but I Think [v] celeste [/v] is the best lynch today.

 

from here on out I will be checking in as much as possible, but its ganna be off and on

 

What drew you to that conclusion?

 

 

idk what you guys have against a style that observes and comments when she actually has something tangible to her. Why is it scummy to you? It's what I do every D1 and people always misinterpret it for scum play.

 

Because is looks like youre doing nothing Penny. 

 

There's no progression. no reads list and even the odd time when you use reasoning its very weak.

 

Give a reads list with reasoning.

 

Hell do an ISO on your progression for your Darthe, Calder and me reads.

 

Show us how you got there.

 

Ive been trying to tell you and help you but youre refusing and I dont see why you would atp. 

 

More then one person has been commenting on this and asking for these type of things.

 

Because that isn't how I play, I don't do reads list until I have a flip to base my current observations off. That doesn't mean i'm doing nothing. I do tell my thoughts and y'all just sit there saying i'm not saying a signal thing. It's actually a pain because this always happens D1.

[Sili Quirrels]

Hm okay penny you turned me impartial. Ill vote u or liz rn. Whichever is closest.

[Celeste]

Liz will require some casing. Celeste is safer.

 

[unvote]

[v]celeste[/v]

ffs safer is what makes scum win. Horrible reason to lynch me.