[Advanced] Salem Mafia - GAME OVER - MAFIA WIN

[seph]

Ninja'd by the Sephiroth

haha. yea, just saw that =p

[Eldrick4221]

Voting Phase

 

On the lynching block is Zander.

 

Everyone else has 24 hours to submit via Role PM if you think he his Guilty or Innocent, or to actively Abstain.

 

At the end of the voting period, if you have not voted, your vote will be counted as an Abstain.

 

If I receive all votes before the voting period is over, I will end it early.

 

After all votes are collected, I will reveal the results.

 

If the result is Innocent, any remaining time left in the day phase will continue and you can vote someone else up, if you choose.

 

You may continue to talk during this phase.

 

[Eldrick4221]

Sorry that took so long. Work got in the way :P

[Eldrick4221]

Time remaining in Day 1 is 26 mins.

 

I won't be continuing this day if the lynch doesn't go through because of the small time amount, but I detailed how the phase works for future reference.

[Eldrick4221]

ASK A MOD

 

Q: Once the voting phase is over do you reveal who voted guilty/innocent/abstain or just the totaled results?

 

A: I will reveal who voted in each category.

 

 

[Eldrick4221]

ASK A MOD

 

 

Q: Is talking allowed during the Voting Phase?

 

A: Yes. Talking is only prohibited at Night.

 

 

[BFG]

[V] zander

 

Of the two I think he is more likely mafia.

 

im gonna be asleep soon so may not be able to be back before DL.

I don't recall you saying anything about Zander this game, yet you've been questioning Thane lots so why is Zander a better vote?

[Eldrick4221]

Day phases will be extended to 72 hours (Including Day 1, which already has been extended). Remember that if you vote someone up and then majority votes innocent that the day continues if there is a reasonable amount of additional time.

[Turin Turambar]

BFG, I personally do not have a handle on Thane. I don't understand his play in this game but he has confused me before where I couldn't see a way to place him as town yet he ended up being town in the end. From Dice's discussion about the Sili and Lily(now Seph) situation I have Dice pretty strongly town. {yes, it is large part due to his explanation about the Sili NK} 

 

 

 

 

I just saw this zander. you told me you wanted me lynched for lily's vote on turin, but it wasn't until 3 pages after you already cast your vote. so I am confused.
what is the reason for this vote?
 

that was as dramatic as i wanted it...

 

[v] Liliy [/v]

pg 13

Upon reread, I understand what Turin said when he voted me. I didn't understand the first time through. I was really out of it yesterday. 

 

I don't think sheeping someone is a good reason to place a vote. 

 

Vote Turin

pg 16

 

What was my reason for my Hallia vote?  Did I ask for her opinion on Lily?  Wanted to see what shaked out from it.

 

Maybe I have my reasons for it?

 

Maybe I wanted to pressure her?

 

Maybe I seen shes done nothing then when I vote her she comes back with that vote on Turin.

 

Maybe I think shes Scum?

 

This line of questions just feels off. Maybe, Maybe Maybe. Why is it so hard to just say what your motivation was? I think because he doesn't want to get pigeon holed.

 

 

 

 

 

now  as to lily
 
I ve had to change my mind when i realised that Darthe was the mafia kill. I was thinking sili was and thought that too obvious  so thought it was setting lily up.

 
 

3 man solve?
 
not not not you other then that i got nothing at this point   possibly not lily

 
 

 

Is that really all you <Lily> have to comment on so far? 

 
mindmeld

 

 
 

@turin   that number 1 u asked if i answered?  i answered Zander because i said i had a thought but i didnt answer that comment of hallys cause i thought it was aimed at zander
 
the frame idea
 i had sili v lily in mind  didnt even realise darthe had commented on her. i still think her being framed is possible cause they killed DARTHE. they couldnt know that sili would die and killing darthe and leaving sili alive would mean more pressure on lily
 
 
does that make sense?

 
 

im not liking lilys play at all but i dont think shes the SK  and as i said my frame idea largely went out the window when i realised it was Darthe. 
 
I do think it still unlikely she is mafia cause like i said  mafia didnt kill the person howling for her lynch and couldnt know hed die

 
 

 

The cavalry has arrived

 
slaps seph upside the back of the head
 
welcome back. 
 
Now get over to the Band and sign roll call then get back here and convince me why u shouldnt be lynched.

 

 
 

 

[v] Dice[/v]

That above post rings all kinds of wrong. You didn't want to lynch Lily when it was her slot but now that Seph joins (welcome Seph BTW) and has started to actually do the work people were looking for from that slot you are telling him to show why he shouldn't be lynched?

He is already on the way there IMO.

*inb4 you say you aren't voting him. it is your tone that is wrong here.

Out for a bit. Having a walk about Leeds.

 
what have i been saying about lily?? that i dont want to lynch her AT THIS TIME. I  even said in an earlier answer to Zander i think it was that if i had to id lynch her today    but i dont want too today
 
then theres the fact that people have been wanting to lynch lily so seph NEEDS to convince people why he shouldnt be lynched. including me.

 

Dice can you explain how you go from thinking Lily isn't mafia because you thought mafia killed Sili to 'set her up' to thinking Lily isn't mafia because mafia didn't kill Lily?

Can you explain why you think an SK might not take the same approach (set someone up)?

 

 

ok  so we have all probably seen this in the past   mafia kill the loudest voice in the game trying to get someone NOT mafia lynched in order to frame that somebody with the added bonus of shutting up the loudest voice.

 

so thats what i thought happened   until i realised 2 things. A it wasnt the mafia kill. and B that the SK did not try to kill sili.

 

After all sili was loud and likely to get someone lynched  the sk WANTS bodies on the floor as long as its not the sks. taking out a loud person who is likely to get a lynch is more hinderance then help

 

so basically  lily is not the sk imo  she MIGHT be mafia but honestly that hasnt really been shown yet...she had so little thread presence that it would have basically been lynching an inactive

 

 

Im not following any of this.

 

Why cant Lily be SK iyo?

 

 

 

reread it zander particularly point B

I didn't see zander actually respond or indicate he had read the post.

 

 

 

Town Zander prides himself on reading the thread. I don't understand him still thinking LilySeph is still a SK possibility. Zander plays dumb sometimes (i.e. #typingishard) but I don't think he really is. So even after there were reactions  he still didn't see it then I'm not suspicious of it.

 

So bottom line is I am trusting a town read (dice) to at least give Thane an extra day. And I don't have anything to clear Z. I didn't like what felt like camping on Lily and staying there until Seph replaced and then he basically stopped going at anyone. 

[dicetosser1]

turin did u enter the qt during n0??

[Turin Turambar]

turin did u enter the qt during n0??

I don't have a QT in this game. So No.

[dicetosser1]

woops  wrong game   sorry

[Hallia]

Good response from Turin in my opinion.

[Thane Vakarian]

4 hours of voting phase remaining.... time will tell.... goodnight all

[BFG]

No lynch is garbage and I'm not going to stare at a clock for 30 minutes so [v]Zander[/v].

 

Not crazy about it. Maybe the fact he's been MIA today is a good sign. /shrug

*pulls face

[Shad_]

 

No lynch is garbage and I'm not going to stare at a clock for 30 minutes so [v]Zander[/v].

 

Not crazy about it. Maybe the fact he's been MIA today is a good sign. /shrug

*pulls face

 

 

huh?

[BFG]

 

 

No lynch is garbage and I'm not going to stare at a clock for 30 minutes so [v]Zander[/v].

 

Not crazy about it. Maybe the fact he's been MIA today is a good sign. /shrug

*pulls face

 

 

huh?

 

I wanted to say that the only time I've seen Zander 'eat' a lynch was when he was town, but I can't find it, so maybe I'm misrememberimg

[Shad_]

I've literally never seen Zander eat a lynch, that I can recall.

 

But he's also in two games and sick, and I think in general people are more likely to say screw it as scum.

[Eldrick4221]

 

Votes are tallied.

 

Guilty (6): Seph, Hally, Thane, Turin, Shad, BFG

Innocent (0):

Abstain (1): Dice

 

Zander - Neutral - Witch has been lynched.

[Eldrick4221]

It is now Dusk.

 

Night will begin in ~30, and will end in 24 hours.

[dicetosser1]

lol  shoulda voted him.  i abstained cause i was too confused at the time

[Eldrick4221]

It is now Night 1.

 

There is a Full Moon tonight.

No more posting.

Night ends Tuesday at 4pm (Arizona time)

[Eldrick4221]

Dice - Town Transporter was killed by Viglante

 

He left the following will:

 

 

 

Sili was not the target. Turin was.

 

Dice transported himself with Hallia

 

 

 

 

Hally - Cleaned was killed by Mafia

 

 

 

 

It is now Day 2

 

With 5 alive, 3 votes are needed to enter Voting Phase

 

Not Voting - BFG, Seph, Shad, Thane, Turin

 

Day 2 will end at 5pm Friday

 

[Eldrick4221]

Interesting side note. Those of you still alive are listed on the player list in alphabetical order :P

[seph]

sigh...
well going to start this off with my top suspect.
[v] shad[/v]