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This phase is currently scheduled to end Saturday evening.  If players would like a phase extension to accommodate the weekend, please contact me privately and I'll consider it.

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Also, I have to go to Cleveland for two days, so I'll be slightly less available.  Please feel free to take advantage of my lovely co-mod Cory in any way you like.

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Night is finally over just as I'm winding down for bed.

 

After what calder pulled at eod, I had to check him out. Self voting would have gotten a policy vote from me if I wasn't already voting (and was current at the time). Voting No lynch was downright lolcatting.

 

But my suspicions were alleviated. Calder came back town.

 

After I got caught up, it was already night. Good job guys at catching hally. I still feel that I'm right and that she doesn't case as either alignment. I will still look into that, but it's not a pressing issue anymore.

 

That being said, now is the exciting part of the game. We have a scum flip. I spent some time last night digging through the thread for interactions with hally. I have a bunch of stuff that needs more looking at, but something that jumped out at me was Hally and lenlo's discussion about seer cover. It doesn't feel staged, and I don't think he's her teammate.

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I fell asleep but I did things. Andnow I'm going back to sleep again

 

Good job, y'all. I'm glad I wasn't around, I was close to backing out of scum reading Hally in a moment of weakness while skimming ugh :dry:

Okay, I actually went back to Lenlo's ISO of Hally to see what I could glean from there, just to help guide me a little bit going back through her stuff.
Everything is in the spoiler:


Defends Kronos #216 and #401

#401 I feel like she chose to paint me and Darthe out as scum from the start. Picks at me for my opinions about NL even though I stated it was not relevant to alignment and also said I was defensive later (#406). As for Darthe, she's voting him and I think Lenlo comments on this a bit too. *Does Hally bus or is she more likely to pick out townies and consistently go after them?

#406 Also shows her going after me and Darthe and defending Kronos again. It's not like Kronos was her peek or anything (I believe it was Zander) but consistently protecting Kronos instead of painting him as a target might lend to him being a scummate that needs defense. It's not like people weren't already suspicious of Kronos... would have been an easy lynch.

#416 Note that she also does some light defense of Eldrick, saying that his post wasn't snarky and defending him against Turin in a few posts; also earlier saying that my post in response to him was defensive. In 416 she votes Darthe. I'm pretty sure from reading so far, it's unlikely me or Darthe are teammates (read for yourself) but there is some serious defense of Kronos and Eldrick.
 

#427 - Defends Soohs read of her by saying shes waffled on it, so its somehow ok to put Hallia in her dark green? If Hallia flips wolf take a good look at Sooh imo. Its some soft defense from each onto the other.

@Lenlo are you still thinking this?
 
So,
Monstr town, Darthe town, Alanna town
Sooh odd... Defense in #427 and votes her in #448 then says she's in her WTL #596

I'm trying to figure out what happened between #596 and #733. From what I can tell Sooh dropped a few reads and had Hally town read but Hally didn't discuss anything about her before unvoting (though they did discuss Zander's reasonableness). I'm going to lean town on Sooh from this behavior just because the posts I read were pretty townie and it didn't make sense for Hally to leave a vote there.

Next few posts are voting and WTL'ing me and Darthe and voting him. Defense of Eldrick again #915. The case against me was literally "you're defensive" and the case against Darthe, afaict, is "it's Derf".

#1190 defense of Kronos right after some positioning to look good after Zander flips town and committment to a Darthe lynch D2.

Just from this ISO up to the point Lenlo was at, there's defense of Kronos and Eldrick while consistently going after me and Darthe. There is also some soft defense of Sooh but Sooh comes off town from her own merits. Hally never mentions Thane.

Picking up from there..

#1548 likes Eldrick's comments on Kronos' activity, thinks he is town.
 

But Len is a pro at reading me :laugh:

So far I am liking Eld and BFG for town. Wtl Laine and Darthe still. Null on Calder, need more. Wolf,i would say is town. Dont know Len if misrepping or still just not good at reading me. He does appear to be trying though, didn't point for him. I feel much better about Sooh

She also says she feels good about Monstr.

Not sure how Hally positions her teammates, but at least one of her town reads has to be a wolf, so that's out of Eldrick, BFG, Kronos, and Monstr. Pretty much take Monstr off that list entirely, I think it's between Eldrick and Kronos, possible BFG.

After this there are quite a few non content related posts and her being frustrated because she's on mobile and cannot case. She states that she's never lynching BFG. Spewing BFG town?

#1652 Says that you [Darthe] has improved over night as well as Alanna.

Tries a last minute vote on Lenlo but that train would never work. Lenlo is town.

And that's it... From this I would say Kronos and Eldrick look the worst. Darthe looks good, Sooh looks okay. BFG potentially spewed town but I want a second opinion. There were NO mentions of Thane whatsoever yet she was defending Kronos all game like that was more important. Don't remember a lot of content on Calder from reading back, maybe a few quips but nothing much to indicate true alignment.
 


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And that's it. I'm not detailed catching up all 30 pages of d2, if anyone has cliffnotes version? I kind of skimmed them from my phone but actual retention is next to 0%.
 
Ended up skimming again... I see Thane checked in. Post is largely null, reads are consensusy. I just realized Sili is Kronos. Also just realized I've been poking at this game for like 3 hours and haven't started my homework. Oh. So Sili obv still a wolf #1751 and #1783.
 
#1811 Sili what do you mean by this? It took 30 minutes because I started reading her ISO (I also got distracted so lol). What were you implying with this post?
 
#1820 Apparently Sili thinks I'm a wolf. #1848 Now I'm not lol
 
#1920 Don't hate Sili's reads list here. And haven't really hated his last page or so of posts. Like some of the points being brought up about Eldrick. I'm conflicted though because I'm wolf reading the slot but liking the points coming from it. Conflicted. Mentions a Hally-Eldrick team.
 
#1962 Hally claims seer: Peeked Zander, Monstr.
#1966 Darthey claims seer. lolololol
#2068 Dice subs Hally
 
#2097 Just thinking about how unhelpful Calder was EOD. He seemed to be trying to spread more confusion than actually calm things and try to get focus on the Hally lynch. By the time she claimed she was obvious wolf but then Calder wants to spare her and vote no lynch while Sili and others are jumping to Eldrick. Now he unvotes to vote BFG. Just some odd play going on with Calder which makes no sense to me.
 
Anddd I'm kind of caught up for the most part. Sorry there are so many words :dry: It's now 4am and there are 4 hours until day so I guess I have to friggen wait.

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There's the town!laine I know.

 

I'm feeling bad about the kronos/Sili slot myself. Hally called kronos town near eod after I was talking with bfg about his content (which was null at best).

 

I understood bfg's reason for her early view on him, but it was pure meta that I can't relate to, so I didn't have him as town.

 

It's hard to read someone when they are attacking you, so I'm gonna have to give Sili another look.

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Not Thane. [V]Eldrick [/v]

No Laine. Sooh is town ca use flip, so I'm not thinking that.

No. You're gonna want to follow me on Thane today.

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OFFICIAL VOTE COUNT

 

Eldrick (2): Lenlo, Darthe

 

Not Voting: BFG, Calder, Eldrick, Laine, manbat, Sili, Thane

 

With 9 alive, it takes 5 to lynch.

 

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:huh:

 

Ok, sure... I'm the way to go today. Lose some dead weight and a townie to improve the wolves odds. If that's the plan, go ahead.

 

I won't even be online a lot. Work is done, but there's a huge comic con (sorta thing) I'll be going to tomorrow.

 

Just, re-think when i do flip town, and get some wolves when I do get lynched, and then win this game, ok? Deal? Deal.

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I think the wolves are eldrick and Laine? Idk

I think that might well be possible actually. My only other unsure read and possible wolf was Sooh, who flipped town....

 

Eldrick, Laine, Calder.... 2 wolves there.... odds are, yes.

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:huh:

 

Ok, sure... I'm the way to go today. Lose some dead weight and a townie to improve the wolves odds. If that's the plan, go ahead.

 

I won't even be online a lot. Work is done, but there's a huge comic con (sorta thing) I'll be going to tomorrow.

 

Just, re-think when i do flip town, and get some wolves when I do get lynched, and then win this game, ok? Deal? Deal.

This whole response is validating

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 bfg and eldrick. dunno about laine, she seemed very 'natural' in the sense she was posting like how she normally posts. although not sure if her posts were hard

 

[v]eldrick[/v]

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