[BASIC/STANDARD] Warcraft: War of the Ancients Mafia - GAME OVER, MAFIA WINS

[wish-tree]

 

 

Now people are asking about me not being around. Question: Wheres Cass? Shes been pretty hard townread by people as well but is gonzo. Thought she was doing well early but id like her thoughts on the now.

agreed

 

seems like she's skating by, as Pizza said

 

(but now that you're around, let's do some work?)

 

Its not work if you enjoy it. Do I enjoy it? Sometimes. Rereading a 106 page game is definitely work though.

 

I think you can change the # posts per page to make it less pages. What do you think about who we should lynch today?

[Askthepizzaguy]

That's not what I'm confident about.

 

I'll be mechanically locked as a villager in short order. It is unavoidable.

 

I don't have to worry about EVER eating a lynch this game and that gives me all the permission in the world to be aggressive.

 

Assuming I don't eat a lynch D1, it will never occur.

[alannalynn]

Sitting back from the Pizza/Zander thing until I've caught up.

 

LAINE: Why take so long to unvote Turin if his claim moved him so far up for you? I don't get it. You have me at the bottom, said you liked the case against me, seem to think I'm on my scum game. So why not vote me? Also you're comment about not lynching the claimed doc with one vote is...Idk rubs ne the wrong way.

Moving Alanna down on my list.

He's literally only at the top of my list because of that claim, otherwise I'd still be pushing for his lynch. Nothing he's done has convinced me he's town, and I don't particularly believe he's town after the claim either. But that's an issue for another day.

 

I'm not voting YOU yet because I'm not caught up. I wanted to see how you reacted and if anyone else applied pressure after your case. From what I'm seeing so far, nobody is and you're getting some defense from other players like Csarmi. Pral showed he liked the case but didn't place a vote afaict.

 

Re: my comment about one vote. Nolder made it seem like a horrible thing that I didn't remove my vote immediately from a claimed PR, but my one vote a lynch does not make. Especially with this being a hammer game.

 

I'm literally never mafia this game.

[Askthepizzaguy]

 

If you lynch her and she's scum, you have my EXPLICIT PERMISSION to lynch me next.

 

With Xander seeing the light I think you might want to worry more about being lynch now rather than next.

 

Have fun and good luck with that.

 

;)

[Askthepizzaguy]

 

 

 

I won't ever have to worry about paying up on that bet.

 

XD

This sounds like you know she'll flip town.

What's your second guess?

What second guess? That is what it sounds like.

 

 

That's wrong.

What's the next most likely reason?

[wish-tree]

Sitting back from the Pizza/Zander thing until I've caught up.

 

LAINE: Why take so long to unvote Turin if his claim moved him so far up for you? I don't get it. You have me at the bottom, said you liked the case against me, seem to think I'm on my scum game. So why not vote me? Also you're comment about not lynching the claimed doc with one vote is...Idk rubs ne the wrong way.

 

Moving Alanna down on my list.

He's literally only at the top of my list because of that claim, otherwise I'd still be pushing for his lynch. Nothing he's done has convinced me he's town, and I don't particularly believe he's town after the claim either. But that's an issue for another day.

 

I'm not voting YOU yet because I'm not caught up. I wanted to see how you reacted and if anyone else applied pressure after your case. From what I'm seeing so far, nobody is and you're getting some defense from other players like Csarmi. Pral showed he liked the case but didn't place a vote afaict.

 

Re: my comment about one vote. Nolder made it seem like a horrible thing that I didn't remove my vote immediately from a claimed PR, but my one vote a lynch does not make. Especially with this being a hammer game.

 

I'm literally never mafia this game.

got it, thanks, Laine

[Kaylee]

 

 

 

 

I won't ever have to worry about paying up on that bet.

 

XD

yup

K I get why you seem sold on idea. But it doesn't seem strange that he's so confident? I mean it wasn't that long ago she was in his bottom list. I get he changed his mind, but this level of confidence doesn't seem right.

Yeah, that's true...

 

I think that I can be this confident on Celeste, but it is weird coming from that position. From his bottom list to his top is pretty weird. I've been townreading him for the majority of the game, though, so...????

As have I. I found it strange and wondered why you just accepted it. I wanted to know if you also found it strange

[Nolder]

 

 

If you lynch her and she's scum, you have my EXPLICIT PERMISSION to lynch me next.

 

With Xander seeing the light I think you might want to worry more about being lynch now rather than next.

 

Have fun and good luck with that.

 

;)

 

Thanks, I think we might need it sadly enough.

 

Oh....I almost forgot.

 

[v]Nomi[/v]

 

Let's get this party started.

Only time I move my vote is if Celeste is L-3 or higher (lower?).

[Zander?]

OMG im so torn on pizza right now!!!

[Askthepizzaguy]

Pizza do you think Im scum?

 

and if so why?

 

Think the possibility exists, and said why over the past several pages.

 

I don't feel comfortable with you this game and I think you've been parked on Wish all round. Rather than just talk to me about that suspect you tossed more pregame stuff in my face while simultaneously not believing I'm scum.

 

I don't like any of that and would lynch you if the will to do so existed.

[Askthepizzaguy]

OMG im so torn on pizza right now!!!

 

Take a stand, Zand.

[Lenlo]

 

 

 

Now people are asking about me not being around. Question: Wheres Cass? Shes been pretty hard townread by people as well but is gonzo. Thought she was doing well early but id like her thoughts on the now.

agreed

 

seems like she's skating by, as Pizza said

 

(but now that you're around, let's do some work?)

 

Its not work if you enjoy it. Do I enjoy it? Sometimes. Rereading a 106 page game is definitely work though.

 

I think you can change the # posts per page to make it less pages. What do you think about who we should lynch today?

 

Pizza/Zander fight is stupid. Honestly, the only people who I /want/ to lynch today are Celeste and the missing wonder brothers, Pral and Csarmi. Everyone else has been pretty good or I think will be figured out easier later.

 

Really ill lynch anyone that isnt Pizza, Zander, Nolder, Shad, Turin.

[Kaylee]

That's not what I'm confident about.

 

I'll be mechanically locked as a villager in short order. It is unavoidable.

 

I don't have to worry about EVER eating a lynch this game and that gives me all the permission in the world to be aggressive.

 

Assuming I don't eat a lynch D1, it will never occur.

Ok i guess. You're not on the table for me anyways. Still have you add town even worth the case against me.

[wish-tree]

 

 

 

 

I won't ever have to worry about paying up on that bet.

 

XD

yup

K I get why you seem sold on idea. But it doesn't seem strange that he's so confident? I mean it wasn't that long ago she was in his bottom list. I get he changed his mind, but this level of confidence doesn't seem right.

Yeah, that's true...

 

I think that I can be this confident on Celeste, but it is weird coming from that position. From his bottom list to his top is pretty weird. I've been townreading him for the majority of the game, though, so...????

As have I. I found it strange and wondered why you just accepted it. I wanted to know if you also found it strange

 

No, I definitely found it strange. I also found it strange that he was so willing to sheep a badly reasoned vote on me simply because Turin wanted to vote me for unfounded reasons.

 

But he has been doing a lot this game, and only recently has he begun to look bad. :/

[Sooh]

OFFICIAL VOTE COUNT

 

Wish (2): Zander, Turin

 

Csarmi (3): Cass, Wish, Kaylee

 

Pralaya (1): Lenlo

 

Kaylee (1): Pralaya

 

Zander (1): Pizza

 

Pizza (1): Nolder

 

 

Not voting (4): Shad, Csarmi, Celeste, Laine

 

With 13 alive, it takes 7 to lynch

DAY ONE WILL END AT 10:00 PM MST (MIDNIGHT EASTERN) ON WEDNESDAY, JANUARY 6.

http://www.timeanddate.com/countdown/generic?iso=20160106T22&p0=197&msg=End+of+Day+One&font=cursive&csz=1

[Kaylee]

Sitting back from the Pizza/Zander thing until I've caught up.

 

 

LAINE: Why take so long to unvote Turin if his claim moved him so far up for you? I don't get it. You have me at the bottom, said you liked the case against me, seem to think I'm on my scum game. So why not vote me? Also you're comment about not lynching the claimed doc with one vote is...Idk rubs ne the wrong way.

 

Moving Alanna down on my list.

He's literally only at the top of my list because of that claim, otherwise I'd still be pushing for his lynch. Nothing he's done has convinced me he's town, and I don't particularly believe he's town after the claim either. But that's an issue for another day.

 

I'm not voting YOU yet because I'm not caught up. I wanted to see how you reacted and if anyone else applied pressure after your case. From what I'm seeing so far, nobody is and you're getting some defense from other players like Csarmi. Pral showed he liked the case but didn't place a vote afaict.

 

Re: my comment about one vote. Nolder made it seem like a horrible thing that I didn't remove my vote immediately from a claimed PR, but my one vote a lynch does not make. Especially with this being a hammer game.

 

I'm literally never mafia this game.

Nice explanation thanks. Except for tinfoil I have you as villager.

[alannalynn]

Wish do you think Pizza/Zander is v/v w/w or w/v v/w?

[Kaylee]

 

 

 

 

 

I won't ever have to worry about paying up on that bet.

 

XD

This sounds like you know she'll flip town.

What's your second guess?

What second guess? That is what it sounds like.

That's wrong.

What's the next most likely reason?

Think I know what you're getting at.

[wish-tree]

 

 

 

 

Now people are asking about me not being around. Question: Wheres Cass? Shes been pretty hard townread by people as well but is gonzo. Thought she was doing well early but id like her thoughts on the now.

agreed

 

seems like she's skating by, as Pizza said

 

(but now that you're around, let's do some work?)

 

Its not work if you enjoy it. Do I enjoy it? Sometimes. Rereading a 106 page game is definitely work though.

 

I think you can change the # posts per page to make it less pages. What do you think about who we should lynch today?

 

Pizza/Zander fight is stupid. Honestly, the only people who I /want/ to lynch today are Celeste and the missing wonder brothers, Pral and Csarmi. Everyone else has been pretty good or I think will be figured out easier later.

 

Really ill lynch anyone that isnt Pizza, Zander, Nolder, Shad, Turin.

 

Okay.

I disagree with you about Celeste and Nolder, agree with you about Pralaya and csarmi. Nolder less so.

[Nolder]

On day one, halfway through the day, when he had 3 votes on him, with almost 2 days remaining on the clock.

 

Sure, if they're DUMB.

 

He's always going to die. There's a 0.0% chance he survives final 3.

 

There wasn't even a possibility of counterclaim because I said repeatedly not to, and I wasn't the only person who said not to counterclaim it.

 

He was hardly a lock to be lynched. Now he is, if he's never murdered and is alive late game, or the real doctor dies.

 

Mafia claim doc, but not in that way, at that time of day, on day one. Not without ALWAYS losing Turin from their team and allowing the rest of us to possibly lynch a DIFFERENT scum d1 and then Turin still dies due to his un-retractable claim.

 

Is this correct or not? You don't have to tell me, because I know you know it is.

 

1) 3 votes isn't insignificant in this game. Especially when he was the first to reach 3 votes in the first place iirc.

 

2) If he thinks he's going to die anyway might as well claim and roll the dice.

 

3) I don't know why you think saying not to claim would necessarily stop a claim. Someone could just CC when they see his claim before seeing you say not to claim. Or they could just disregard you. Obviously we didn't get a counter but we don't know it was because of what you said. Odds are more likely in favor that Turin is legit and caught scum off guard and they missed their opportunity to counter.

[Askthepizzaguy]

Never lynching Zander D1 if I'm a wolf and he's my wolf partner.

 

That means Pizza and Zander wolves both die before end of game, period. There's zero purpose in reducing the size of my scum team with that level of talent that early, unforced.

[Lenlo]

 

 

 

 

 

Now people are asking about me not being around. Question: Wheres Cass? Shes been pretty hard townread by people as well but is gonzo. Thought she was doing well early but id like her thoughts on the now.

agreed

 

seems like she's skating by, as Pizza said

 

(but now that you're around, let's do some work?)

 

Its not work if you enjoy it. Do I enjoy it? Sometimes. Rereading a 106 page game is definitely work though.

 

I think you can change the # posts per page to make it less pages. What do you think about who we should lynch today?

 

Pizza/Zander fight is stupid. Honestly, the only people who I /want/ to lynch today are Celeste and the missing wonder brothers, Pral and Csarmi. Everyone else has been pretty good or I think will be figured out easier later.

 

Really ill lynch anyone that isnt Pizza, Zander, Nolder, Shad, Turin.

 

Okay.

I disagree with you about Celeste and Nolder, agree with you about Pralaya and csarmi. Nolder less so.

 

Alright, why?

[wish-tree]

Wish do you think Pizza/Zander is v/v w/w or w/v v/w?

I read them as v/v before this interaction...

 

But with the extreme focus on each other, it very well may be that it's v/w or w/v. If I had to choose, I'd go Zander>Pizza mainly because of his hard tunneling me.

 

Don't think it's w/w.

[Zander?]

 

Pizza do you think Im scum?

 

and if so why?

 

Think the possibility exists, and said why over the past several pages.

 

I don't feel comfortable with you this game and I think you've been parked on Wish all round. Rather than just talk to me about that suspect you tossed more pregame stuff in my face while simultaneously not believing I'm scum.

 

I don't like any of that and would lynch you if the will to do so existed.

 

 

 

So you say im parked on Wish then I see crap from you and call it to you and........wth?  Dude im not voting you i called out what i saw as i saw it and thats that.  

[Lenlo]

Never lynching Zander D1 if I'm a wolf and he's my wolf partner.

 

That means Pizza and Zander wolves both die before end of game, period. There's zero purpose in reducing the size of my scum team with that level of talent that early, unforced.

Incase you didnt know, Zander apparently has a thing for massively bussing teammates.