[BASIC/STANDARD] Warcraft: War of the Ancients Mafia - GAME OVER, MAFIA WINS

[alannalynn]

Turin, guess what? That was from page 37.

[alannalynn]

I'm caught up by the way

[Shad_]

Getting incredibly good vibes from Nolder's as of p54.

 

I'll think on that and flesh it out or take it back when I'm not on my cellphone later.

[Askthepizzaguy]

:dry: :dry:

I saw the two names you said, and copied them.

[alannalynn]

 

:dry: :dry:

I saw the two names you said, and copied them.

 

I noticed.

 

Why?

[Askthepizzaguy]

 

 

:dry: :dry:

I saw the two names you said, and copied them.

 

I noticed.

 

Why?

 

I'm looking at why right now, and I still don't know what to make of it.

 

Gotta ponder it more.

 

I have to believe that a villager spots that and makes a thing out of it, if they're paying attention. And I think a wolf would just accept a villager sheeping them without questioning it too hard.

 

But that's not something I've ever done before as a test, so I don't have much to work with.

 

It was something that occurred to me in that moment, because I have work to do resolving you and there are more ways of solving someone than simply voting and accusing them.

[Askthepizzaguy]

Celeste is at the bottom of my POE after Turin.

 

Above Celeste is Kaylee and Csarmi.

 

Pralaya at null is above that.

 

In truth, I'd do some more reading before deciding.

[Celeste]

Turin seems to be looking for any loose info to twist. Reminds me of the time I tried to get away with Tanya's lynch in Raganorak but Mish called me out for wrong facts. It just looks like poor mafia play a bit.

[Askthepizzaguy]

It's definitely strange play.

[Celeste]

It also looks like a change of tone from the null posts you pointed out Pizza. It took a forced turn instead of naturally asking questions tone. The thing is it doesn't look like he follows up with his questions.

[Askthepizzaguy]

So Laine, do you see what Turin is saying about you and Celeste?

 

What do you make of that.

[Kaylee]

 

 

 

Kaylee imo, Csarmi hasn't done a whole lot.

 

Those would be my two.

Curious as to why. Is it you think I'm scummy or just POE?

POE, I got a lot of persons acting like villagers enough to push them up the list.

 

But let's say the decision is made not to lynch Turin. You and Csarmi would both be in the line of fire of my vote.

 

You would need to point at someone above you on my list and show me where I'm wrong about them, to help me see what I've missed.

I'd like to bit honestly I'm not sure. I'd vote Csarmi then. I've given thoughts and reads. I just don't feel strongly enough about anyone to push a lynch. I won't just to save myself either. That wouldn't help town win. Unfortunately D1 is hard for me so I often struggle.

 

I'm following along and being aS active as I can. The only other I'm not sold on my list is Nolder. I'd like to not say as to why just yet as it depends on how he proceeds.

[Askthepizzaguy]

Well, I mean, he's not exactly saying it. But I think he's heavily implying it, unless I'm reading him incorrectly.

[Turin Turambar]

Family time. So 

 

Hardclaim: Alexstrsza- Town Doctor

 

I won't be back in thread until tomorrow sometime. Unless I can sneak a few minutes here or there. 

[Askthepizzaguy]

I'd like to bit honestly I'm not sure. I'd vote Csarmi then. I've given thoughts and reads. I just don't feel strongly enough about anyone to push a lynch. I won't just to save myself either. That wouldn't help town win. Unfortunately D1 is hard for me so I often struggle.

 

I'm following along and being aS active as I can. The only other I'm not sold on my list is Nolder. I'd like to not say as to why just yet as it depends on how he proceeds.

 

I haven't done the work on Csarmi, and he's given me very little to work with. But he's above several people on my POE.

 

Would you lynch Celeste instead of yourself or Turin, if Turin somehow looked like a villager today? Those are my bottom 3, I'd like to contain it to that if possible.

 

Or is it always Csarmi first, Celeste later?

[Turin Turambar]

Well, I mean, he's not exactly saying it. But I think he's heavily implying it, unless I'm reading him incorrectly.

Actually you are. I think Celeste is likely town. I'm not voting there today. 

[Lenlo]

 

 

Sup Xander.

 

Who's the towniest person in the game as of right now?

 

Me obv!!!!

 

But after me Id have to say Pizza tbqh.

 

and scummiest Lenny.

 

Your thoughts on this and same question for both town and scum for you.

 

I missed this earlier, this isn't referring to Lenlo is it?

 

No, its Wish. Wish = Lenny, Celeste = Penny. Yeah its confusing me to.

 

Family time. So 

 

Hardclaim: Alexstrsza- Town Doctor

 

I won't be back in thread until tomorrow sometime. Unless I can sneak a few minutes here or there. 

Well then.

[alannalynn]

Celeste is at the bottom of my POE after Turin.

 

Above Celeste is Kaylee and Csarmi.

 

Pralaya at null is above that.

 

In truth, I'd do some more reading before deciding.

This was where I was until I rethought Celeste. I mean, sure, she's had some negative points against her and is potentially twtbw, which is no excuse but still. The point I'm getting caught up in is that Shad thought of the same thing I did irt Wish/Celeste. Celeste comes out town in most of the scenarios of Wish town reading her so strongly. The only hitches in that are if Wish is unable to read a person that she consistently hydras with (which would be odd) or they're being fancy and are w/w. But, being that I'm town reading Wish, I'm okay at the moment with not lynching Celeste today. Obviously, if, tomorrow, she is still failing to town tell and is not providing stances on arguments or giving me reads one way or the other, then I'm going to consider her lynch despite Wish's claims.

 

So Laine, do you see what Turin is saying about you and Celeste?

 

What do you make of that.

I do see what he's saying. My reads list from earlier in the game I had Celeste at the bottom of my pile and said she was doing nothing for me to villa read her. Since then I have worked her up my list a little, saying that I'm not going to lynch her today. This so happened to be after she was receiving pressure and suddenly I'm backing off. Yeah, if she's wolf in the long run, that's gonna look bad on me. But for now, I'm not willing to lynch her due to conflicting reads.

[alannalynn]

Family time. So 

 

Hardclaim: Alexstrsza- Town Doctor

 

I won't be back in thread until tomorrow sometime. Unless I can sneak a few minutes here or there. 

...

[Askthepizzaguy]

The character and the likely role check out.

 

I wouldn't counter-claim Turin if he's lying. It's not worth outing the doctor.

[Kaylee]

*snipped*

 

List feels pretty easy, I particularly want you to take stronger stances on Wish and Celeste since they seem to be discussed a lot today. 1) Why is Wish null to you when you have Zander so high? 2) Is Celeste there only because of Pizza? 3) What do you mean by Nolder "going outside of what I'm used to"? 4) What question are you waiting on from Turin and has he answered it already?

1) I liked his case it made sense, but Shad raised valid points about get meta which I'm not familiar with. I don't see her being wolf with Celeste. I could possibly vote there. I'm trying not to sheep.

 

2) No. I mentioned her earlier. The reads list doesn't give a lot, but I didn't say much about it since I know mine are the same. Pizzas points just made sense but as I've been saying since her "oh now I'm going to be mislynched" comment, I'm willing to give her time.

 

3) Not his typical meta. Plain and simple. The starting with the question. Hoping for more there but not seeing enough as of yet.

 

4) Funny as you want others to read your posts but you didn't read mine to know the answer. I asked why he shouldn't be lynched. Yes he's answered it. No I wasn't fully satisfied with the answer hence why I voted him.

[alannalynn]

 

Well, I mean, he's not exactly saying it. But I think he's heavily implying it, unless I'm reading him incorrectly.

Actually you are. I think Celeste is likely town. I'm not voting there today. 

 

So what exactly are you saying irt me/Celeste? Are we wolves together or am I a wolf?

[Askthepizzaguy]

He did have you as Orange, so I'm assuming that was his point.

 

When you wouldn't go after Celeste based on an old reads list (which as far as Turin knew was still current) I thought he was implying you two were in cahoots.

[Zander?]

 

I would be shocked as hell if I ever had a day one that approaches my past 4 games on this site.

 

Even the Darthe game, you could see clear differences. Lots of post count, but I think i spent a lot more time complaining about the posts per page, the number of pages to read, pretending to be behind, and generally dipping out of the thread within an hour or so.

 

Like, my patterns are sadly obvious but no one gives a crap enough to see those patterns. It's shameful really. But hey, if that's what I can do, that's what I can get away with, and that's what wins as scum, I'm going to tell people to their faces that's what I do as scum and then keep doing it.

 

It's really up to the other players to make that change.

How many scum games have you lost and won compared with your town games.

 

 

Why ask this?  Is the pertinent to your read of him?

 

@Zander do you know what my real towntell is?

 

Above anything else?

 

When I say I'm leaving and then keep posting for like an hour at the expense of getting a remotely decent night's sleep. -_-

 

An absence of lolcatting??

 

lololololololol

 

 

 

That's the main reason why I've been trying to amp up my village game at the expense (?) of my scum game.

 

I need to get my accuracy up, and my self mislynched less often. So I've been open notebook on my scum game since last May or so.

 

This feels real from Pizza he mentioned he loved playing as Town more and tho I know he #putsinthework as Scum but this level of commitment leads me to believe he's more then likely Town this game.

 

 

OK now gonna state this before I start:

 

Im not saying that I didnt believe the LEGITIMACY of  your guys RL stuffs.

 

But I pegged both of you as Scum, Kay in Frozen and Shad in WE for making numerous posts about RL stuff in those games,  Again I believe that the stuff was going on but I dont know if its maybe a subconscious thing that Scum do but for some reason they seem to feel they need to explain these things more.

 

The only reason I bring this up is it pertains to my case on Lenny.

It's not super-reliable as you'll have false positives. (Myself, I tend to explain when I absolutely have to leave even though I'm talking to someone, or when I'll be away from the thread for more than 8 hours)

 

But in general, yeah. It's not the RL that is an indicator, but the desire to earn a free skating pass as a result thereof.

 

 

 

 

I dont care if YOU think its garbage cause Ive proven its real.

It's often null and in Shad's specific example it was.

 

My read on Shad that game had a lot to do what he did post when he did post, rather than his RL reason.

 

In general it's something to look for, but it can lead to some epic fails if that's all you're looking at.

 

 

Yep and I know.

[Askthepizzaguy]

Or perhaps simply white-knighting a villager. Either are plausible moves for a wolf.