[BASIC/STANDARD] Warcraft: War of the Ancients Mafia - GAME OVER, MAFIA WINS

Shad_ · January 5, 2016

5. Pizza: Unsure.. I didn't like the entire note taking thing that felt like something non-game related to post to be "helpful". Maybe I would care about it if I took notes. Active and doing things but nothing that makes him obvious town. also curious to see what his thoughts were about he changing read on me. I may be biased there however.

What distinguished it for you from other null "helpful" posts?

Shad_ · January 5, 2016

I'm reaching an oversaturation point where I'm probably going to have to call it quits for the night.

Want to skim Pizza again and that's probably it for me until tomorrow.

Zander? · January 5, 2016

@ Shad dude wth are you seeing with Csarmi man???!!! I dont get it....I mean not just a Town read but YOUR TOP TOWN READ???!!!?!?!?!? WTF

And also Alanna has your scummiest is also pretty bad imo.

Sorry brother not seeing either of those like at all!!!!!

Blue, consider it a call for the rest of you to town harder.

Red, my scum order was borderline arbitrary except for Turin being the least bad of the four, and I posted that prior to/still haven't finished absorbing Laine's most recent catch-up post(s?).

wish-tree

Go read TUS and Ragnarok and tell me I'm wrong. Remember that she was hunting for Loki as scum in Ragnarok.

Cool, Zander's voting my top town read.

We'll see how she handles that ISO.

I can tell you this: if she's scum her game has changed drastically over the past four months.

Shad how did this change happen?

Better question yet....How the hell are these people even in consideration for you TOP town reads???!!!

Zander? · January 5, 2016

[unvote] Ok. Shad is actually shaping up it seems. Ugh I need to reread I think.

Why?

[v]Pral[/v]

Getting close to 50 pages Pral.

Keep up or die.

lolololololol

Zander? · January 5, 2016

I read House of Cards for a while, meh it's hard because Cass writes a lot and is always all over the place, hard for me to focus.

So I got an idea in my head. Cass has played 8 previous games on DM that I could find. I checked her alignment and read her intro posts in each.

1. Town -- generic "Hi" intro

2. Mafia -- generic "Hi" intro

3. Town -- generic "Hi" intro

4. Town -- generic "Hi" intro

5. Mafia -- awkward jokes and town claim "I [want] to be the Towniest Town that ever Towned this game!!!"

6. Mafia -- awkward jokes

7. Mafia -- generic "Hi" intro

8. Mafia -- doesn't even bother saying hi, dives straight into content

This game:

[v]Penny![/v]

LOVELY PEOPLE !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I. AM. TOWN !!!!!!!!

And I have permission/instruction from Cory to go #FULLCASS!!

:biggrin: :biggrin: :biggrin: :biggrin: :biggrin: :biggrin: :biggrin:

Ooooooohhhh Wiiiiiilllllvvvveessssss.....

Watchyo back!

I know we're pretty far beyond intro posts, but considering I already felt pretty good about her, I mean, this post is pretty damn towny.

What is this...I dont get it?

Zander? · January 5, 2016

[unvote] Ok. Shad is actually shaping up it seems. Ugh I need to reread I think.

Can you explain what changed?

Thinking about your recent scum hunting while at work. I need to interact with Turin, Pral, and Csarmi more.

What recent Scum hunting are you referring to in particular?

Celeste · January 5, 2016

Writing a reads list now.

Zander? · January 5, 2016

*exception--I never got to the point of knowing in my heart that he was town in Frozen.

I was about to say....lolololololololol

Speaking of which, I'm reading Kaylee's game there right now and my heart weeps for AJ.

Dude called the bus EoD1. He called it man.

He backed off of me due to my outburst. I told him, in game, that it wasn't alignment indicative. I was just genuinely pissed. Ask husband or Tress.

Anyway just wanted to clarify.

OK now gonna state this before I start:

Im not saying that I didnt believe the LEGITIMACY of your guys RL stuffs.

But I pegged both of you as Scum, Kay in Frozen and Shad in WE for making numerous posts about RL stuff in those games, Again I believe that the stuff was going on but I dont know if its maybe a subconscious thing that Scum do but for some reason they seem to feel they need to explain these things more.

The only reason I bring this up is it pertains to my case on Lenny.

Shad_ · January 5, 2016

I don't get what Zander doesn't get about my recent wish-tree comments?

But I like this question:

[unvote] Ok. Shad is actually shaping up it seems. Ugh I need to reread I think.

Can you explain what changed?

Thinking about your recent scum hunting while at work. I need to interact with Turin, Pral, and Csarmi more.

What recent Scum hunting are you referring to in particular?

Zander? · January 5, 2016

I dont get the fact that shes on the exact opposite ends of our reads lists man. I dont get what youre seeing. Id like you to maybe lay it out for me in a post so I can see.

Nolder · January 5, 2016

Pizza's certainly not an easy read for sure. Actually there is things leading me to believe he's Town. One being i do find he's playing similar to NBC for one. He's been sharp and making solid points. It feels like he's trying to lead this village and thus far nothing feels forced or fake from him, Were having some of the same reads which makes me feel better about him as well. I know he's well capable of doing this as both alignments and theres a few things Im looking for they may make me rethink him but for now especially with a general lack of people really Town telling I feel pretty ok with this read.

Why Alanna and Len for you. I dont disagree I just wanna hear your thoughts there.

Id also really like to see a reads lists with reasoning from you if you can, that also includes you Scum reads if you dont mind brother.

I read this earlier and thought I answered but I guess I didn't my bad.

Alanna and Lenlo are literally tied.

Like I didn't just make that up out of the blue.

They each have a total of +2 right now.

See the way I like to take notes is everyone starts at 0.

As I read things I'll note a post I like or dislike and assign a number to it.

Usually + or - 1. After awhile people start accumulating larger totals.

So when I see a player at like -6 while most are +1.5, -2, +1, etc it tells me that's probably a player I need to focus on.

Keep in mind I don't blindly follow the numbers. They just help me keep track of what I was already thinking.

FWIW your current total is 0.

As for scum reads and a list.

I'm going to hold onto that for now.

I'm on the hunt and don't want to tip anyone off.

Songstress · January 5, 2016

MOD NOTE:

A DEADLINE HAS BEEN SET...

DAY ONE WILL END AT 10:00 PM MST (MIDNIGHT EASTERN) ON WEDNESDAY, JANUARY 6.

http://www.timeanddate.com/countdown/generic?iso=20160106T22&p0=197&msg=End+of+Day+One&font=cursive&csz=1

Zander? · January 5, 2016

#themathsarehard

Zander? · January 5, 2016

now people are gonna think I cant tell time Tress!!!!!!

lolololololol

Shad_ · January 5, 2016

*exception--I never got to the point of knowing in my heart that he was town in Frozen.

I was about to say....lolololololololol

Speaking of which, I'm reading Kaylee's game there right now and my heart weeps for AJ.

Dude called the bus EoD1. He called it man.

He backed off of me due to my outburst. I told him, in game, that it wasn't alignment indicative. I was just genuinely pissed. Ask husband or Tress.

Anyway just wanted to clarify.

OK now gonna state this before I start:

Im not saying that I didnt believe the LEGITIMACY of your guys RL stuffs.

But I pegged both of you as Scum, Kay in Frozen and Shad in WE for making numerous posts about RL stuff in those games, Again I believe that the stuff was going on but I dont know if its maybe a subconscious thing that Scum do but for some reason they seem to feel they need to explain these things more.

The only reason I bring this up is it pertains to my case on Lenny.

I don't know how I can make this any more clear to you. That game is over, so I am not lying:

When I have a 100+ degree fever and chills and a horrible headache, I will not be playing Mafia.

When I am online but my son needs attention or I have work to do, I will not be digging beyond the present page or responding to real-time conversations in a timely manner.

I don't get sick often. Almost never. The latter case happens ~every RL day that I play this game. I explain this ~every RL day that I play this game. Nyn tried to lynch me as v/v for it once. It's stupid.

I don't fake excuses for long absences as scum unless it serves a tactical advantage, like it did towards the end of Pulp Fiction. If it's gong to obviously bite me in the ass, I'm not faking it. I can't afford to fake excuses for short absences as scum, because I'm already going to be popping out of the thread for real reasons too often for additional ones to be safe play. And besides that, I like being involved and engaged as either alignment. Why don't you actually look at what happened in World's End when my RL issues went away? Did I just peace out of the game because my chances of survival were already shot? No. I fought a bit, actively, while I could, and I became extremely active in scum QT trying to mitigate damage. Even after I was outed, I didn't leave. I lolcatted and had fun with it. I like being here.

My point is, your catch-all "only scum explain their absences" is garbage. You haven't sussed me for the probably dozen or more "gotta run" or "can't look back" type posts I made in this game, did you? Why not?

Songstress · January 5, 2016

now people are gonna think I cant tell time Tress!!!!!!

lolololololol

*snerk*

That's why I link the countdown timer.

Zander? · January 5, 2016

*exception--I never got to the point of knowing in my heart that he was town in Frozen.

I was about to say....lolololololololol

Speaking of which, I'm reading Kaylee's game there right now and my heart weeps for AJ.

Dude called the bus EoD1. He called it man.

He backed off of me due to my outburst. I told him, in game, that it wasn't alignment indicative. I was just genuinely pissed. Ask husband or Tress.

Anyway just wanted to clarify.

OK now gonna state this before I start:

Im not saying that I didnt believe the LEGITIMACY of your guys RL stuffs.

But I pegged both of you as Scum, Kay in Frozen and Shad in WE for making numerous posts about RL stuff in those games, Again I believe that the stuff was going on but I dont know if its maybe a subconscious thing that Scum do but for some reason they seem to feel they need to explain these things more.

The only reason I bring this up is it pertains to my case on Lenny.

I don't know how I can make this any more clear to you. That game is over, so I am not lying:

When I have a 100+ degree fever and chills and a horrible headache, I will not be playing Mafia.

When I am online but my son needs attention or I have work to do, I will not be digging beyond the present page or responding to real-time conversations in a timely manner.

I don't get sick often. Almost never. The latter case happens ~every RL day that I play this game. I explain this ~every RL day that I play this game. Nyn tried to lynch me as v/v for it once. It's stupid.

I don't fake excuses for long absences as scum unless it serves a tactical advantage, like it did towards the end of Pulp Fiction. If it's gong to obviously bite me in the ass, I'm not faking it. I can't afford to fake excuses for short absences as scum, because I'm already going to be popping out of the thread for real reasons too often for additional ones to be safe play. And besides that, I like being involved and engaged as either alignment. Why don't you actually look at what happened in World's End when my RL issues went away? Did I just peace out of the game because my chances of survival were already shot? No. I fought a bit, actively, while I could, and I became extremely active in scum QT trying to mitigate damage. Even after I was outed, I didn't leave. I lolcatted and had fun with it. I like being here.

My point is, your catch-all "only scum explain their absences" is garbage. You haven't sussed me for the probably dozen or more "gotta run" or "can't look back" type posts I made in this game, did you? Why not?

DUDE IM NOT SAYING YOU WERE FAKING FFS!!!!!

I'm just point out the FACTS:

In both games you both made a number of posts concerning RL stuff. NOT SAYING ANYONE IS LYING OR IT WASNT TRUE!!! I HAVE KIDS I KNOW HOW IT WORKS!!!!! I GET IT I REALLY DO!!!! But in both games it was something I noticed that I called out and it was a fair portion of the reasoning behind my cases....in both games you were both Scum...you gotta see why I feel thls can most certainly be a tell especially if Im ALREADY SUSSING THE PERSON!!!

You havent made all that many this game...quote me the dozen or so your referring to please and we can also compare the context of them.

I dont care if YOU think its garbage cause Ive proven its real.

Celeste · January 5, 2016

Pizza: Scum hunting and overly good townish tone.

Cass: Reminds me of the two games I have played with her where we were both town. I haven't seen her as mafia but she is analyzing the thread and scum.

Wish-tree: Gut vibe and the fact that is she is spewing how well she reads me. The only reservation I have is buddying.

Laine: I want to see her post thoughts and I have a tiny voice in my head saying she is probably town.

Zander: He baffles me and honestly I don't know how to read him. His thought process of Wish/I read though is townish.

Csarmi: Need to see more of his posts/interact a bit.

Turin: Need to see more of his posts/interact a bit.

Leno: Absolutely null.

Shad: Confuses me a lot and just makes me switch reads a lot.

Kaylee: Confuses me a lot and just makes me switch reads a lot.

Nolder: Something about his question reminded me of Rustlemania. It just doesn't seem like he is town. Although he is fairly absent which makes him null.

Pralaya: Needs to post more but he also reminds me of his play in TUS.

Shad_ · January 5, 2016

DUDE IM NOT SAYING YOU WERE FAKING FFS!!!!!

I'm just point out the FACTS:

In both games you both made a number of posts concerning RL stuff. NOT SAYING ANYONE IS LYING OR IT WASNT TRUE!!! I HAVE KIDS I KNOW HOW IT WORKS!!!!! I GET IT I REALLY DO!!!! But in both games it was something I noticed that I called out and it was a fair portion of the reasoning behind my cases....in both games you were both Scum...you gotta see why I feel thls can most certainly be a tell especially if Im ALREADY SUSSING THE PERSON!!!

You havent made all that many this game...quote me the dozen or so your referring to please and we can also compare the context of them.

I dont care if YOU think its garbage cause Ive proven its real.

On a quick skim:

kk going to bed, we got this

Shad! Thoughts and stuff?

on p10 atm, baby just fell asleep on my lap, if I can get him to stay that way I'll sneak over to my desktop and speed things up a bit. Any particular questions for me in the meantime?

I seem to be at a point in Mafia where I'm pretty much stuck in perpetual catch-up mode until that small window between about 1am and 3am when my kid's asleep and I'm not. I'm not over-eager for 100 page phases these days.

I'm not even caught up still.

I let some wine get the better of me time-wise, need to address an issue from earlier today concerning my p1 posts and then I'm off to bed.

Going to bed, glgl

I need to take off for a while, but I'm caught up and this game isn't crazy fast so I should be able to stay caught up, and that means I can actually ISO a lot of you hopefully. I don't feel nearly as confident about my town reads as I want to. :\

Living on the front page because I'm busy, will go back and look when the evening comes, wanted to make sure you did post one by then in case you hadn't.

Gotta take a cat to the vet, may or may not have cellphone reception there.

Ok, transitioning back from dedicated time mode to posting as I work mode, will try to do more ISOs tonight.

Working on Cass ISOs atm but a bit distracted

Shad_ · January 5, 2016

Finished skimming Pizza's ISO, pretty underwhelming on the scum hunting side but not something that would really start to bother me prior to a flip.

Shad_ · January 5, 2016

I can ISO wish tomorrow for you Zander. I do hope you're still around so we can finish this conversation.

Anyway my brain is fried on re-reads. Going to entertain myself elsewhere but I'll F5 periodically for a while yet.

Songstress · January 5, 2016

OFFICIAL VOTE COUNT (unchanged):

Shad (1): Turin
Celeste (1): Lenlo
Turin (1): Askthepizzaguy
Wish (1): Zander
Pral (1): Nolder

Not voting (8): Shad, Kaylee, Csarmi, Laine, Wish, Pral, Cass, Celeste

-------

With 13 alive, it takes 7 to lynch
Day 1 will end at 10PM MST on Wednesday, January 6

http://www.timeanddate.com/countdown/generic?iso=20160106T22&p0=197&msg=End+of+Day+One&font=cursive&csz=1

Askthepizzaguy · January 5, 2016

Only page 47?

That's okay. I'll be able to deliver today. I had my Sooh time and my rest.

Zander? · January 5, 2016

DUDE IM NOT SAYING YOU WERE FAKING FFS!!!!!

I'm just point out the FACTS:

In both games you both made a number of posts concerning RL stuff. NOT SAYING ANYONE IS LYING OR IT WASNT TRUE!!! I HAVE KIDS I KNOW HOW IT WORKS!!!!! I GET IT I REALLY DO!!!! But in both games it was something I noticed that I called out and it was a fair portion of the reasoning behind my cases....in both games you were both Scum...you gotta see why I feel thls can most certainly be a tell especially if Im ALREADY SUSSING THE PERSON!!!

You havent made all that many this game...quote me the dozen or so your referring to please and we can also compare the context of them.

I dont care if YOU think its garbage cause Ive proven its real.

On a quick skim:

kk going to bed, we got this

Going to bed post not an Ate or an excuse post

Shad! Thoughts and stuff?

on p10 atm, baby just fell asleep on my lap, if I can get him to stay that way I'll sneak over to my desktop and speed things up a bit. Any particular questions for me in the meantime?

Youre not leaving or making excuse youre staying in the thread prepared for question

I seem to be at a point in Mafia where I'm pretty much stuck in perpetual catch-up mode until that small window between about 1am and 3am when my kid's asleep and I'm not. I'm not over-eager for 100 page phases these days.

Not horribad but Ill give this one to you.

I'm not even caught up still.

We call this a statement not making exucse youre stating something.

I let some wine get the better of me time-wise, need to address an issue from earlier today concerning my p1 posts and then I'm off to bed.

Going to bed post not an AtE or an excuse post

Going to bed, glgl

Going to bed post not an AtE or an excuse post

I need to take off for a while, but I'm caught up and this game isn't crazy fast so I should be able to stay caught up, and that means I can actually ISO a lot of you hopefully. I don't feel nearly as confident about my town reads as I want to. :\

Not an excuse or AtE post

Living on the front page because I'm busy, will go back and look when the evening comes, wanted to make sure you did post one by then in case you hadn't.

I guess I can give you that

Gotta take a cat to the vet, may or may not have cellphone reception there.

I can give you that

Ok, transitioning back from dedicated time mode to posting as I work mode, will try to do more ISOs tonight.

Not an excuse or AtE post

Working on Cass ISOs atm but a bit distracted

I guess I could give you that but youre in thread and working on something.

See the bold on top.

See Red: 4 that COULD fit.

Going to bed is not AtE or an excuse people need to sleep.

Better yet look back at WE and compare these examples you pulled to the ones I call you out on. And compare these to the ones I call Wish on.

Celeste · January 5, 2016

Only page 47?

That's okay. I'll be able to deliver today. I had my Sooh time and my rest.

Today was slow catch up after I came back from work.

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