[Advanced] Nightmare Before Christmas - Town Wins!

[Andrej]

 

I'm pretty comfortable proceeding from this point with villa reads on Pizza/Lenlo/Dice

 

I wanna flesh some more stuff out with Snow first and Laine looks okay at a glance for putting in work early but that'll need to second look before too long, I think.

 

That pretty much leaves everyone else in null or 'below' categories.

I agree with your town reads, but do you have a split between null and below?

The margin isn't too wide yet. Considering the game is this small if I can find a group of people I think are townies then the POE should be pretty quick

[Andrej]

I'll need to look over the longer posts in the last couple of pages again in more detail when I'm not restricted to just my phone.

 

I'd still like a response from Snow and I'll be looking forward to Tab's contributions whenever she gets back around

[Lenlo]

AJ, when you read Pizzas long post and you give me your thoughts on them? They are so big, at times I feel I miss stuff. I also wanna see if this paranoia is just me.

[Andrej]

I don't think the length of his posts would be really alignment indicative so I'm not sure what you're asking me

[Lenlo]

I dunno, like, I sometimes worry that he is hiding something behind all those words. I know its stupid, which is why I havnt even tried to build a case or anything off of it, but its in the back of my mind every time I read him.

[dicetosser1]

 

Oh are we talking about how great we are?

 

Me and Clov have thoughts on this subject; I'll let him start.

Sometimes I wonder what its like to be average, but then I realize I'll never have that problem.

 

 

Then being average gives you something to aim for for self improvement Clov!

[Zander?]

 

 

Can you put this into an actual case rather than this bulleted list sort of thing? I can sort of see what your getting at with Nolder but before I do anything on the matter I want you to spell it out for me. This way I can understand more where your coming from and get you locked down into a case on Nolder so you cant shift the goal posts/do scum things about it later on.

 

Basically I would like you to clarify this if you dont mind.

 

Fence sitting.

 

Normally I wouldn't call it this early in the game but the hedging language of "I can sort of see" is what really stands out.

 

Fence sitting? Did you even read the rest of the post? I was asking him to put his case on you in less, more concrete words. The "I can sort of see" language was because the dude posts a small essay every time he cases someone. I was helping YOU by making him do a clearer writeup.

 

Someone else needs to read zander for me.

 

His tone is bugging me again but im kinda having to look at him thru nice eyes atm so I cant be really sure

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@pizza    i assume thats at me?  I will take as long as I take to get a read on you. You are tricksy so i will be careful

Honestly, Zander is bugging me. Theres not enough lols and I get the feeling he is trying to look helpful but got into to quickly because the thread got more serious than he could to quickly.Im keeping an eye on him and dont mind where my vote currently is, even though it was originally there for a joke.

 

 

 

Nolder looks disinterested.  Means nothing at this point.

I'm very skeptical that Nolder means nothing to you. I feel that you're aware of Nolder's alignment, and don't want to reveal how you became aware of it.

 

Whether Nolder is townie or not, you are likely not.

 

 

meh...feelings mean zero to me.  Now you're backpedaling on your own case.  Talk about walking it back...

 

This doesnt look like backpedaling to me. Please explain? Just steal some of Pizza's words and use them, he has to many already.

 

 

what I think youre doing is you dont want tolook bad by keeping your "joke" on me and "trying" to justify keeping it there by saying im not lolololololol'ing enough and in your words "trying to look helpful.

 

Thats some weak reasoning.  Basically what youre saying is that you think I'm the scummiest player iyo thus far cause its not longer a joke vote.  I dont believe that you believe that at all.

[Zander?]

the feeling i get from Zander is that he's doing what he can, but his spirit is elsewhere.... For Zan, he's quiet. Too quiet for some people, perhaps. But I'll give him some time

 

 

Underwhelmed by NotBob and Nolder's reactions to my cases on them, pretty sure there's at least one wolf contained within. Very satisfied with my D1 so far.

 

In other news, I'd cut Zander a break for a little bit. I know he's out of sorts but I don't think it's alignment indicative at present. I would wager we'll see old Zander back within a few days.

 

 

Thank you both for noting that but I want to be evaluated on in game merits and nothing else.  I'm doing everything I can to summon my WIM cause I actually randed Town this time and trying to get into the game full swing.  

 

I will be away some of tonight and tomorrow so I'll do as much as I can in between but after that I'll really try and focus everything into the game.

[Lenlo]

Im not going to let you bait me into another fight Zander. You think I am only trying to "look" helpful? Then read my other posts and get back to me. 

 

And yes, I think you could do with some pressure of a vote. So get over it and do something to make me want to look elsewhere for scum. I have already said that Pizza's case against Nolder gets stronger every time he pops in, says nothing and then dips. I have also already addressed the NotBob talk. I figure putting you up there with them, 3 people in a 12 person game, is a good place to go for D1.

[Zander?]

Im not going to let you bait me into another fight Zander. You think I am only trying to "look" helpful? Then read my other posts and get back to me. 

 

And yes, I think you could do with some pressure of a vote. So get over it and do something to make me want to look elsewhere for scum. I have already said that Pizza's case against Nolder gets stronger every time he pops in, says nothing and then dips. I have also already addressed the NotBob talk. I figure putting you up there with them, 3 people in a 12 person game, is a good place to go for D1.

 

 

Nice try at misrepping my Len....I was quoting you saying that to me hence why i said "IN YOUR WORDS"

[Lenlo]

Im not misrepping you. Now please, go read through the thread and come back with some content. Gimme your thoughts on the Nolder/NotBob/Pizza situation for instance. Show me the towny in you, instead of whining at me every time I call you scum in a game.

[Andrej]

Fwiw I don't think Zander as a wolf would question me knowing I'm a villager

 

he'd be more likely to try buddying instead. It's happened every time we're on opposing sides

[Andrej]

I also realize that's easy meta to manipulate but unless he intentionally decided he wanted to try leveling me this game he can be a light green pending further development

[Zander?]

 

 

 

Can you put this into an actual case rather than this bulleted list sort of thing? I can sort of see what your getting at with Nolder but before I do anything on the matter I want you to spell it out for me. This way I can understand more where your coming from and get you locked down into a case on Nolder so you cant shift the goal posts/do scum things about it later on.

 

Basically I would like you to clarify this if you dont mind.

 

Fence sitting.

 

Normally I wouldn't call it this early in the game but the hedging language of "I can sort of see" is what really stands out.

 

Fence sitting? Did you even read the rest of the post? I was asking him to put his case on you in less, more concrete words. The "I can sort of see" language was because the dude posts a small essay every time he cases someone. I was helping YOU by making him do a clearer writeup.

 

Someone else needs to read zander for me.

 

His tone is bugging me again but im kinda having to look at him thru nice eyes atm so I cant be really sure

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@pizza    i assume thats at me?  I will take as long as I take to get a read on you. You are tricksy so i will be careful

Honestly, Zander is bugging me. Theres not enough lols and I get the feeling he is trying to look helpful but got into to quickly because the thread got more serious than he could to quickly.Im keeping an eye on him and dont mind where my vote currently is, even though it was originally there for a joke.

 

 

 

Nolder looks disinterested.  Means nothing at this point.

I'm very skeptical that Nolder means nothing to you. I feel that you're aware of Nolder's alignment, and don't want to reveal how you became aware of it.

 

Whether Nolder is townie or not, you are likely not.

 

 

meh...feelings mean zero to me.  Now you're backpedaling on your own case.  Talk about walking it back...

 

This doesnt look like backpedaling to me. Please explain? Just steal some of Pizza's words and use them, he has to many already.

 

 

what I think youre doing is you dont want tolook bad by keeping your "joke" on me and "trying" to justify keeping it there by saying im not lolololololol'ing enough and in your words "trying to look helpful.

 

Thats some weak reasoning.  Basically what youre saying is that you think I'm the scummiest player iyo thus far cause its not longer a joke vote.  I dont believe that you believe that at all.

 

 

 

Im not going to let you bait me into another fight Zander. You think I am only trying to "look" helpful? Then read my other posts and get back to me. 

 

And yes, I think you could do with some pressure of a vote. So get over it and do something to make me want to look elsewhere for scum. I have already said that Pizza's case against Nolder gets stronger every time he pops in, says nothing and then dips. I have also already addressed the NotBob talk. I figure putting you up there with them, 3 people in a 12 person game, is a good place to go for D1.

 

 

Im not misrepping you. Now please, go read through the thread and come back with some content. Gimme your thoughts on the Nolder/NotBob/Pizza situation for instance. Show me the towny in you, instead of whining at me every time I call you scum in a game.

 

 

wanna try that again sir????

[Lenlo]

I also realize that's easy meta to manipulate but unless he intentionally decided he wanted to try leveling me this game he can be a light green pending further development

Eh, he abused his meta in the matrix game. Im gonna withhold judgement until he comes back with some reads, but I am not going to forget how well you read him in Diablo. I will probably end up deferring to you on the Zander thing unless he does something that really sticks out.

[Zander?]

Fwiw I don't think Zander as a wolf would question me knowing I'm a villager

 

he'd be more likely to try buddying instead. It's happened every time we're on opposing sides

 

 

speaking of that unless i missed it, you didnt answer my question

[Lenlo]

OH GOSH! Im sorry Zander I misread that, I thought you said I was the one only trying to look helpful. Reading comprehension is hard apparently, apologies. I withdraw that fos/push then.

 

I would still like your opinion on the Nolder/Pizza thing though when you can.

[Andrej]

Someone else would probably be better answering that for you since I don't think I can really be objective about myself.

 

I don't think there is a huge difference. I put a lot of thought into my scum game to try and be as identical to my free flowing townie self as I can

 

I guess the best answer would be that if you don't think I'm a villager after a phase or two, and I'm still alive and not lynching scum then you should worry.

[Askthepizzaguy]

Thank you both for noting that but I want to be evaluated on in game merits and nothing else.  I'm doing everything I can to summon my WIM cause I actually randed Town this time and trying to get into the game full swing.  

 

I will be away some of tonight and tomorrow so I'll do as much as I can in between but after that I'll really try and focus everything into the game.

I plan on evaluating you on in-game merits.

 

You know, you're allowed to have a game where you chillax a bit. ;)

[Zander?]

OH GOSH! Im sorry Zander I misread that, I thought you said I was the one only trying to look helpful. Reading comprehension is hard apparently, apologies. I withdraw that fos/push then.

 

I would still like your opinion on the Nolder/Pizza thing though when you can.

 

You posted twice off of my original post so I'm not letting you off with your "reading comprehension" excuse Len.  I'm not trying to bait you into a fight, I'm trying to lunch wolves.  Your responses I don't like.  I may not find scum by the same conventional methods others use but believe me when I tell you the ZMOLW (Zander Method of Lunching Wolves) is effective especially since I'm a graduate of the Basic Program of the CCSOHW!!!

 

off the top of my head.

 

Ive already mentioned I had a light town read on Pizza but he's an amazing player who I havent played that much with so I know he's capable of fooling us all so hes not a strong read by far.

 

Notbob I liked his tone and post count earlier as I mentioned, but like I said and I may be wrong but I feel he posted more and earlier on in British Mon as Scum then he did as Town in Diablo.  Thats making me think.

 

Nolder I'll have to try and reread more when I get the chance.  I liked some of the stuff Pizza mentioned but I also feel like he's more involved in this game as the one where he was Scum, I can't remember the name but Calder, Nyn and Kiv were also in it.

[Zander?]

Someone else would probably be better answering that for you since I don't think I can really be objective about myself.

 

I don't think there is a huge difference. I put a lot of thought into my scum game to try and be as identical to my free flowing townie self as I can

 

I guess the best answer would be that if you don't think I'm a villager after a phase or two, and I'm still alive and not lynching scum then you should worry.

 

 

Fair enough at this point though I'd still like others to weigh in on this as well.

[Zander?]

 

Thank you both for noting that but I want to be evaluated on in game merits and nothing else.  I'm doing everything I can to summon my WIM cause I actually randed Town this time and trying to get into the game full swing.  

 

I will be away some of tonight and tomorrow so I'll do as much as I can in between but after that I'll really try and focus everything into the game.

I plan on evaluating you on in-game merits.

 

You know, you're allowed to have a game where you chillax a bit. ;)

 

 

 

Thank you

 

 

And I don't know if that is even possible.

[Lenlo]

Not an excuse, but ok.

 

For weighing in on AJ can you repeat the question you asked? I dont remember it.

[Zander?]

Not an excuse, but ok.

 

For weighing in on AJ can you repeat the question you asked? I dont remember it.

 

 

I asked him about his scum game.  I dont think I've played where he was scum so I asked him and others to give me the gist of it.

[Andrej]

I'm pretty sure the majority of NB's posts in the beginning weren't game related