[Standard] The Matrix Reloaded - Game Over

[Zander?]

Not touching Dice before I know Lenlo's allignment.

 

so if Lenlo flips scum dice is villa iyo?

 

 

I can accept a Lenlo Hallia pool.

 

 

im fine with this!!!

 

I can accept a Lenlo pool.

 

im fine with this!!!!

[Lenlo]

What kind of thoughts do you want? Hallias hammer was horrible, Tabs reaction is weird, Zander is still fooling you all and I really hope I stop a NK tonight.

[Shad_]

 

Not touching Dice before I know Lenlo's allignment.

 

so if Lenlo flips scum dice is villa iyo?

 

Yep.

[Shad_]

What kind of thoughts do you want? Hallias hammer was horrible, Tabs reaction is weird, Zander is still fooling you all and I really hope I stop a NK tonight.

So Hallia/Tab/Zander would be your lynch pool tomorrow? Thoughts on anyone else? What made Tab's reaction weird in your opinion?

[Shad_]

Also, tell me in your words what you didn't like about Hallia's hammer.

[Lenlo]

As much as I think he is scum, Z I'd roght. There was plenty of time for my lynch to build again.

 

She also said something like, a doc claim vs a VT will never work for the vt, but st the time of her hammer how could she know Sooh was VT? I'm also only a 1xdoc not a full one so lots was in the air.

 

Shad I think your town. I don't think wolves would have gone through so much effort with that ISO on me when no one would question you just voting me.

[Lenlo]

I love how people say I'm shimmy for playing basically the same as I do every game. How yesterday would have gone if I had not have hammered:

 

Sooh - Stay out of thread, someone else hammer her closer to d/l

Claims VT - gets lynched because it's a VT claim vs a doc claim

 

People acting like this big epiphany would be happened are vastly over exaggerating

Here's her quote.

[Sili Quirrels]

What kind of thoughts do you want? Hallias hammer was horrible, Tabs reaction is weird, Zander is still fooling you all and I really hope I stop a NK tonight.

We can compete for that.

[Lenlo]

For stopping a NK? That's a competition I wouldn't mind losing.

[Clovdyx]

 

 

 

I guess I just don't understand why her flipping town means you feel you can't be right about Thane.

I didn't say can't, I need to go back and look at it.

Sure, but apologizing before you go back and look doesn't make any sense.

Tab and Lenlo have both interacted with Thane in very strange ways.

 

 

I responded to this earlier, but now that I'm not trying to catch up on my phone when I first wake up, I actually think Tab flipping mafia is enough to clear Thane.  Like, 100%.  If she's mafia, she would know whether Thane is town or mafia.  She's not going to apologize for pushing her teammate when she can get credit there.

 

If she's town, obviously it means nothing towards his alignment, but I have a hard time believing all the mafia are just playing some mind numbingly amazing game.

[Clovdyx]

I love how people say I'm shimmy for playing basically the same as I do every game. How yesterday would have gone if I had not have hammered:

 

Sooh - Stay out of thread, someone else hammer her closer to d/l

Claims VT - gets lynched because it's a VT claim vs a doc claim

 

People acting like this big epiphany would be happened are vastly over exaggerating

 

I don't feel the issue is with you hammering her at all.  It's the impact of it.  Though Shad is right that is was not a foregone conclusion, I will concede that it probably would have happened.  That doesn't change the fact that your vote ended anybody's chance at getting more information from her.  

 

Would her answer to why not me have changed my mind?  Probably not.  But nobody knows for sure, and as somebody (again, probably Shad) said...you had no way of knowing she was a vanilla.

[Clovdyx]

 

 

Final Votecount

Sooh - Lenlo, Clov, Corlanna, Yates, Thane, Taborline, Hallia (7)

Lenlo - Zander, Dice, Sooh, Sili, Shad (5)

 

With 13 alive it takes 7 to lynch.

Deadline: Wednesday 8PM PST.

 

 

 

Sili and Zander should come as no surprise, but if Lenlo's scum we're locking Dice into the "pretty much has to be town" category.

 

 

Off the top of my head, I disagree with you that Sili MUST be town if Lenlo is scum, but I have him as one of my stronger town reads currently and certainly the flip wouldn't hurt him.  I just don't think they've played so strongly opposite one another that they can't be aligned, and I don't remember anything from Lenlo that spews sili as town (but I'll give it another look if we get there).

[Shad_]

 

 

Final Votecount

 

Sooh - Lenlo, Clov, Corlanna, Yates, Thane, Taborline, Hallia (7)

 

Lenlo - Zander, Dice, Sooh, Sili, Shad (5)

 

 

With 13 alive it takes 7 to lynch.

Deadline: Wednesday 8PM PST.

 

Sili and Zander should come as no surprise, but if Lenlo's scum we're locking Dice into the "pretty much has to be town" category.

 

 

Off the top of my head, I disagree with you that Sili MUST be town if Lenlo is scum, but I have him as one of my stronger town reads currently and certainly the flip wouldn't hurt him.  I just don't think they've played so strongly opposite one another that they can't be aligned, and I don't remember anything from Lenlo that spews sili as town (but I'll give it another look if we get there).

 

I don't remember the details anymore but somewhere buried in that giant Lenlo ISO I mentioned that a few things he said made me think scum!Lenlo could spew Sili town. In light of what's happened since, I'm comfortable with that assumption.

[Sili Quirrels]

Well I'm town no matter what, which is true regardless.

 

i actually want to take a second look at hallia and lenlo just in case, but i am sort of busy.

[Sili Quirrels]

For stopping a NK? That's a competition I wouldn't mind losing.

Fwiw this is the scum response I was expecting for 'sili' reasons.

[Nolder]

Neo thought the logical place to go would be to The Oracle since they had no real goals. That proved to be both beneficial and problematic. The Oracle, as usual spoke mostly in riddles but gave Neo the impression he needed to find someone who could help him go where he wanted. Just as Neo was about to ask who or where or why the door flew off the hinges and agents ran into the apartment. Neo and Trinity helped Seraph hold them off until The Oracle was clear then Seraph nodded and told them to go. That was the last time anyone saw Seraph alive.

 

 

​Clov, Seraph, Town Bodyguard has been killed.

[Nolder]

MOD NOTE: BFG HAS BEEN REPLACED BY RELEASETHEEVIL

[Lenlo]

RTE has some catching up to do.

[Nolder]

It is now Day I gotta rush brb will update other stuff in ~15mins

[ReleaseTheEvil]

I've already been reading.

 

In some respects that NK is a relief - a Clov who lives a few days is a very suspicious one.

 

I'm town. Where do we go from here?

 

From what I understand, people are looking at Dice, Hallia, Lenlo. Don't like Hallia's hammer by the sounds of it but I am TERRIBLE on Hallia reads. Bit poor of her to do that, she knows better. But it isn't enough for me alone to convict her so to speak. 

[Sili Quirrels]

RTE has some catching up to do.

i guess you don't know how to respond to me.

 

and of course mentioning who you protected last night wasn't on the top of your priority list which means you're not engaged like a villager should be.

 

therefore, without too much thought [v]lenlo[/v]

[Lenlo]

 

RTE has some catching up to do.

i guess you don't know how to respond to me.

 

and of course mentioning who you protected last night wasn't on the top of your priority list which means you're not engaged like a villager should be.

 

therefore, without too much thought [v]lenlo[/v]

 

Really? Respond to what, your dig at me? There wasnt a question.

 

Mention who I protected? Shad. Im sorry I welcomed our new player first.

 

Not engaged? Your grasping at straws man.

[Lenlo]

[v]Hallia[/v]

 

Sili, I decided afew RL days ago not to respond to any digs at me that didnt have any game related merit, such as my fights with Z.

[Hallia]

I think the chances of a doc and a bg are low.

 

[v] Lenlo [/v]

[Shad_]

Would a bodyguard die protecting a target that also received a doc save?