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Good news is we finally got obe. Bad news is their read list is gonna be a headache. The hydra heads weren't agreeing on reads.

 

And general thread consensus was not liking them. Not sure how helpful that will be either.

Well the thread is town so them not being liked makes a lot of sense actually.

 

If you want to look for spew here are some guidelines:

 

1. Celeste will be pushing town ppl by asking questions I feel, or being vague. She seemed to have trouble offering more substance, at least in the beginning.

2. Wish is not afraid of bussing, but likely when she busses it will either be very silly (low key) or quite substantiated.

3. Look for shock or genuine surprise from Celeste and Wishtree's that comes from their informed perspective vs. someone elses uninformed perspective. Celeste's reaction to JS' claim might be such an instance of this.

4. People who don't tackle Celeste, or softly defend them, or create wagons while Celeste's wagon is growing, while not having a good reason to, are definitely suspect.

Good points. Thank you. I'm gonna comb through their ISOs when I get home.

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You baffle me, sili. You were against oci's lynch day 2. Now he's in your wtl. And he was effectively not here all phase. What changed?

Celeste defended him. Was weird.

 

Also not being here is a bad sign. He really only was here when he had a wagon.

 

And mish whom i trust also has him as a scum read.

Posted

JS looks bad for that hammer. Wish said in one of her last lists that she thought JS was wolf and that he would come in and hammer her. I think he came on and did exactly that and was probably told to in the QT.

 

I was hoping we could eek this out and have some of the inactives views on it all, but well done Mish and Sili <3

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Tress. It is really bugging me that your reason for Sili being Town is because cory said he is. How would you view him in lieu of that information?

 

Have you not paid attention to anything I've said about Sili?  I cannot read him well.  I have to rely on people who feel they can.  Cory is one of them.  I also mentioned in my D1 reads list that I felt I was starting to get a handle on him and was feeling positive about his contributions.  The fact that Cory had him as so strongly town as of Night 1 means that I'm not going to question that without a really good reason.

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So we have lost our cop, vig and doc in the first day. That must be some kind of record.

 

I didn´t get a result either. 

 

 

 

 

I wish Dice would be here more. He is one of my town reads but I haven´t seen much from him lately. For some reason, Dice thinks that I read him well, but I really don´t. 

 

Leelou talking about me being a possible lynch target earlier felt like pure omgus.

The underlined and the bold seem contradictory.  

 

Why do you think leelou talking about you earlier was omgus?

 

 

No, what I meant was that I thought he was town but wanted him to post more to be sure. He was town but not as town as you or Mish and with little posting it was hard to know if I was right or not. 

 

So JS votes Sooh with no reason. Tries to get her to share her thoughts, Then unvotes saying that she tends to not share thoughts until there are flips. i'm trying and failing to understand his process here.

 

Why did you vote her in the first place?

 

Interesting. When did this happen? I don´t have time to search for it. 

 

Also... I actually didn't realize before now that the game is based on Marvel's Thor, and not the original norse mythologi. Lol.

 

Me too. I just tried to not get annoyed by the English spelling of Tor and Oden. lol 

 

I'm just babbling here (yes, I'm putting off answering Wish' giant posts).

 

But this part you might wanna pay attention to. It's important babble.

 

I got a result on a player I did not target last night. This means we have a redirector or a busdriver. I'm not allowed to say what my result was or mention names. But the existence of a role messing with targeting is something everyone must take into consideration.

 

I usually don´t speculate much about roles or how things happens but in this game it will probably be necessary. A redirector makes it very hard. Maybe it will be more clear after this night. 

 

Well until we see if those of us who got a response back get the same type of response D3, it's hard to say if it's just our targets that's getting messed with, or roles.

 

Scenario A, targets, means:

I am a follower (this is hypothetical, I can't confirm exactly what kind of result I got, Kiv's order), I target player 1, but get randomly redirected to player 5 and get results about them instead. When Loki dies, I will get the results of the player I target.

 

Scenario B, roles, means:

I am a follower and I target player 1. But as long as Loki is alive, roles and results gets messed up. So we say player 2 is a vig and target player 3. Then after all NA's are in, they are put into random.org and changed around. So mine and player 2's roles get switched around. That means that technically I targeted player 3 with a vig kill, and player 2 targeted player 1 with an follower action, and get the result from that.

 

Did that make sense?

 

I see both as just as likely scenarioes. Ragnarok means complete chaos, after all. And consider the OP of the sign up thread where one of the JN players who played in this said Kiv had a "sick, sick mind to think up a game as this", we can't see anything as too unlikely.

 

 

 

 

i just had a fun little exercise making a color coded chart of people's reads lists (and/or compiling what reads they have given, if they didn't do a full list).

 

Very interesting. 

 

It also served as a quick mini-ISO for those who didn't actually do a full list.  This is going to help me quite a bit, I think.

 

Will you share? Would be interesting to see.

 

I tried my best to use the most current reads list and interpret colors to mean approximately the same thing... i.e. if someone clearly intended null, I used gray... null to town was a very pale green, slight town was slightly darker... I only used blue for those who actually specifically color coded them as blue... yellow I used as kind of an FOS/something doesn't sit right with me when nothing else was specified for that player... if someone didn't color code their reads I only used red for those they voted or stated they were willing to vote, varying shades of orange for scum reads.   Hydras I listed separately on the left column because they gave separate reads lists, but together on the top row, because they were counted together in the reads.

 

Not everything is going to be a perfect representation of D1 reads, but I did the best I could late last night.

 

 

Spoilered for big.

 

 

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I did this because, based on my character, I thought there was a fair chance that I might be vig (Thor was the other character that I thought fit better, depending on what roles Kivam decided to use), and if I was....well, I despise being vig, and I wanted to pick someone to target that half the game wouldn't yell at me for assuming - I knew who the people were that I felt least comfortable with, but I used this as kind of a measure of thread consensus.

 

I was also amused by the fact that this is probably the first time Lenlo has been read as town by so many people :wink:

 

I believe I will do it again for D2, because it helped me see the big picture, and trolling through people's posts for individual reads if they didn't do a full reads list forced me to take note of their content and helped me form more solid opinions. 

 

I'll sit down and go through thoughts in more detail after work tonight, I have less than an hour and I won't have to finish and post.  But I have a 4 day weekend, so yay for that.  I will probably be lazy as heck at least one day, but I'll try not to procrastinate as badly as I did last weekend.

 

 

Okay, this moves Tress up to greener town. I don´t think she would have made such trouble if she was mafia. This is great. From what I can see it´s spread out a lot. I find it weird that Oci´s train didn´t went further, seeing that a lot of people suspected him yesterday. 

 

 

[v] Oci [/v]

 

 

 

I still have a bad feeling about Ocicat. He hasn't done anything recently that has rubbed me the wrong way, but still my top lynch candidate.

 

[v]Ocicat[/v]

 

 

Meh

 

[v]Tina[/v]

 

 

[v]Leelou[/v]

'Sup.

 

 

Ok JS. Thank you for responding and clearing that up.

 

Lenlo, it's bugging me that even though you are still mentioning that I'm your top scum pick, you aren't pushing a case to convince other people. I pushed for you to explain, and you're avoiding it.

 

[unvote]

[v]Lenlo[/v]

 

 

[v]Celeste[/v]

 

I want to see how her slot reacts under pressure.

 

 

 

 

 

I'm also curious why Wish is on your list. She's been a controversial read.

Celeste and wish are different from last game. Their tone is town. Their content is town. So what one of them isnt 100% here. Or they sometimes have footinmputh. Its normal. wth.

 

I would be willing to vote Celeste.

 

I had another look at what she said the other day, and I think I leveled myself. She was really scummy.

  

 

[v]Celeste[/v]

 

I want to see how her slot reacts under pressure.

:'3333

 

I love how much sense you make. :wink:

 

 

 

[v]Verbal[/v] He's just odd all around. His tone and the fact that he isn't around much. Also I see little content in his posts.

 

 

As a whole, though, I haven't had a problem with Lenlo. I'm wary of him, and will gladly help if other people see what I'm seeing. But I think Verb is the better choice today. I'm just thoroughly unimpressed with his game so far. He's a good player, and should be solving the game by now.

 

[unvote]

[v]Verb [/v]

 

Posted

 

Mostly a copy of my old but moving Verbal down. 

 

Mish

 

Tress

 

Taborline

Sili 

 

Eldrick - I need to take a look at Eldrick. His behaviour today made him look town but I haven´t any memory about what he did yesterday.

Talya - I had a town read on Talya yesterday but need to look her up again because I don´t remember much about what she did in the later part of yesterday. 

Snow - Just like Talya. 

Lenlo - Because everyone seems to town read him. And I haven´t seen anything scummy. 

 

 

Sooh - I have really no memory of her posts what so ever. Update: Too neutral - D1 uncertaintly or trying to stay in the middle? 

 

 

Oci - The one I want to lynch the most. 

Leelou 

Wish/Celeste - I should take a look at their list once again.

Verbal

 

 

These all feel like safe reads. She's misclearing at least 2 people.

 

 

Players

 

Mish - Have seen nothing scummy from Mish. She's floating out theories and trying to figure the game out. Not seeing this as coming from a scum perspective. 

Sili - What I've read of his posts (I just can't read them all in detail - that would take too long), they are coming from a townie Sili. 

Talya - I like how she's digging into the game and really trying to make sense of it. She's one of my stronger town reads. 

 

Tress - Can't fully clear you into town, I think it has to do with your interactions with Eldrick. 

Jon Snow - light town read. Being a bit antagonistic, not a scum trait though

Lenlo - seems to be really trying. Giving him some townie points for now

Eldrick - for now, on the town side with a .001% potential for Loki. 

 

Verbal - hasn't really done much past egg me on a bit. Uncomfortably null

Taborline - I really would like to see more from her. I do like that she is voting though, it will help place her as more days pass. 

Ocicat - seems to be an easy target. Not sure yet if it is their playstyle or if actually blatantly scummy

 

Sooh - just saw she is being replaced, meh feelings about her play so far though. Oh, it's BFG. Hi BFG. Are you replacing in as town, scum, or Loki this game? 

TinaHel - I've mentioned her enough. 

Wishleste [wishtree/celeste hydra] - picking and choosing what they answer, coming off as they don't really care how they are seen. The post that really stuck out was Celeste's answer to Mish. It didn't even touch upon most of Mish's concerns. 

 

Dead

 

Pral - Odin, Town Cop, Lynched D1

Keyboose [keyholder/cory hydra] - Jane Foster, Town Doc, Killed N1

Dicetosser - Thor, Town Vig, Killed N1

 

 

I fully acknowledge I might be misclearing some people. If it comes to it, I'll take a deeper look at my town reads.

The only difference in these lists are minor, the order of people and that Leelou includes Tabor in null. Yet she seems to be using Tina's list to add to her case. If Tina's list is 'so' bad, why is Leelou's list so similar a day later?

Posted

Boo! quote fail

 

 

 

Mostly a copy of my old but moving Verbal down. 

 

Mish

 

Tress

 

Taborline

Sili 

 

Eldrick - I need to take a look at Eldrick. His behaviour today made him look town but I haven´t any memory about what he did yesterday.

Talya - I had a town read on Talya yesterday but need to look her up again because I don´t remember much about what she did in the later part of yesterday. 

Snow - Just like Talya. 

Lenlo - Because everyone seems to town read him. And I haven´t seen anything scummy. 

 

 

Sooh - I have really no memory of her posts what so ever. Update: Too neutral - D1 uncertaintly or trying to stay in the middle? 

 

 

Oci - The one I want to lynch the most. 

Leelou 

Wish/Celeste - I should take a look at their list once again.

Verbal

 

These all feel like safe reads. She's misclearing at least 2 people.

 

 

 

Players

 

Mish - Have seen nothing scummy from Mish. She's floating out theories and trying to figure the game out. Not seeing this as coming from a scum perspective. 

Sili - What I've read of his posts (I just can't read them all in detail - that would take too long), they are coming from a townie Sili. 

Talya - I like how she's digging into the game and really trying to make sense of it. She's one of my stronger town reads. 

 

Tress - Can't fully clear you into town, I think it has to do with your interactions with Eldrick. 

Jon Snow - light town read. Being a bit antagonistic, not a scum trait though

Lenlo - seems to be really trying. Giving him some townie points for now

Eldrick - for now, on the town side with a .001% potential for Loki. 

 

Verbal - hasn't really done much past egg me on a bit. Uncomfortably null

Taborline - I really would like to see more from her. I do like that she is voting though, it will help place her as more days pass. 

Ocicat - seems to be an easy target. Not sure yet if it is their playstyle or if actually blatantly scummy

 

Sooh - just saw she is being replaced, meh feelings about her play so far though. Oh, it's BFG. Hi BFG. Are you replacing in as town, scum, or Loki this game? 

TinaHel - I've mentioned her enough. 

Wishleste [wishtree/celeste hydra] - picking and choosing what they answer, coming off as they don't really care how they are seen. The post that really stuck out was Celeste's answer to Mish. It didn't even touch upon most of Mish's concerns. 

 

Dead

 

Pral - Odin, Town Cop, Lynched D1

Keyboose [keyholder/cory hydra] - Jane Foster, Town Doc, Killed N1

Dicetosser - Thor, Town Vig, Killed N1

 

 

I fully acknowledge I might be misclearing some people. If it comes to it, I'll take a deeper look at my town reads.

The only difference in these lists are minor, the order of people and that Leelou includes Tabor in null. Yet she seems to be using Tina's list to add to her case. If Tina's list is 'so' bad, why is Leelou's list so similar a day later?

 

Posted

 

You baffle me, sili. You were against oci's lynch day 2. Now he's in your wtl. And he was effectively not here all phase. What changed?

Celeste defended him. Was weird.

 

Also not being here is a bad sign. He really only was here when he had a wagon.

 

And mish whom i trust also has him as a scum read.

It was a bad sign to me too, until I noticed he said he wouldn't be. I'll pull up the quote when I get home.

Posted

 

 

Tress. It is really bugging me that your reason for Sili being Town is because cory said he is. How would you view him in lieu of that information?

Have you not paid attention to anything I've said about Sili? I cannot read him well. I have to rely on people who feel they can. Cory is one of them. I also mentioned in my D1 reads list that I felt I was starting to get a handle on him and was feeling positive about his contributions. The fact that Cory had him as so strongly town as of Night 1 means that I'm not going to question that without a really good reason.

Of course I have. I want to know where you would be if you didn't have Cory's view to base it on. Is because cory has him as town your only reason?

Posted

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It's gonna take quite some time to put together the evidencecase on Wisheste being Loki, and I'm really tired and really wanna play sims. But in short this is the conclusion;

 

It's a matter of too much information. Like how before on DM those who were mafia tended to use the word "scum" most (town said mafia, mafia said scum). This has evened out a whole lot now that we've gotten more players from several different sites. But I went through all mentions of Loki. Most are very natural; a lot of them refer to Eld's original comment about wincon, several mentions were made at the beginning of this day when both me and Eld shared that there's a redirector mechanic. And several mentions are people saying "scum/Loki" (as in I don't think that would come from scum/Loki). But Wisheste's mentions seems forced and weird. And then there's a discussion they had with Cory about 3rd party hunting wich also seem very strained from their side. It's no secret I've thought they're not town for quite some time. But I can't see any interactions with other players that I can see as potentional teammates either. Most of their gameplay is following other's opinions, extreme sheeping of Cory for example, except for attacking those attacking them. Like Wish' read list, where she says on at least 2 occasions that "Cory reads this person as town so I do too", with one exception; me. Cory ended up placing me in his dark greens, but that they completly disregard. It's very contradictory and not the only contradictory thing they've done.

 

I think this is our best lynch today. There is no scenario in my mind where they are town. They are either Loki, wich is the highest possibility for me and if so we need to get rid of them to hopefully make our NA's work correctly), or mafia.

 

[v]Wisheste[/v]

 

 

[unvote]

[v]Sooh[/v]

 

 

Hmm

 

If no one is going to vote sooh with me then

[unvote]

[v]Wishleste[/v]

 

 

For right now, I am going to vote: Wishleste. My instincts haven't really changed on them; the avoiding explanations, not answering questions, lots of comments that don't really say anything. I would be pretty surprised if they turned out not to be scum.

 

 

 

 

 

I'm also curious why Wish is on your list. She's been a controversial read.

Celeste and wish are different from last game. Their tone is town. Their content is town. So what one of them isnt 100% here. Or they sometimes have footinmputh. Its normal. wth.

 

I would be willing to vote Celeste.

 

I had another look at what she said the other day, and I think I leveled myself. She was really scummy.

  

 

[v]Celeste[/v]

 

I want to see how her slot reacts under pressure.

:'3333

 

I love how much sense you make. :wink:

 

 

This one. You conveniently change your mind when the entire thread begins to start reading Celeste/me as scum, before when you'd staunchly defended us against Eldrick.

 

 

 

Well crap

 

[unvote][v]Wishlete [/v]

 

 

[unvote]

 

[v]Wishleste[/v]

 

 

 

Hi guys. I kinda disappeared. Sorry about that. 

 

Mish, I think the people who were calling me feisty were in fact surprised by it, as I'm usually not in games. 

 

I do play differently here. Exactly why I can't tell you, except I tend to have good games and bad games. It depends a lot on how much energy I have to put into it I guess. 

 

Anyway. I think so far I feel pretty good about Sili, Lenlo, Tress, Mish, Eldrick, Taboo and JS.

 

I need to reread and ISO Tina, Talya and Leelou, as they are impossible to read for me usually. 

 

I'm even less sure about WishLeste and Ocicat. However, they might be this low in my list because I don't know them very well. 

 

And Verb is definitely bottom of my list. 

 

Come Monday Verb really needs to get some work done if he's Town. Because just saying "I'm town because" isn't cutting it for me. 

 

 

Going to try to get some ISOs done today, but I need to finish a report first.

 

Hi BFG! It would be good to see what you think about Sooh´s list.

 

 

 

Now over to WishCeleste:

 

*That "claim" was really not good. First, I don´t think they or Talya (or anyone else) can assume anything about their roles since not everyone have a role. Second, how on earth could they think they could read anything out of their action that they don´t know if they have, when there are redirections. (Two people have said so today.) 

* Lenlo - you haven´t liked that I have nothing to say about you, but I really like your questioning/responces to WishCeleste. And I have no idea how they could make Lenlo´s post into a Loki read. It seems to be all made up, just like the "claim".

* It looks like their change of reads all of a sudden is mostly based on who suspects them, but to me it looks like a way to make it harder for us to read any connections to other mafia if/once they turn out mafia.

 

 

[unvote]

 

[v] WishCeleste [/v]

 

 

I don´t know the vc, maybe they are already hammered?

 

 

 

Ok. time to trim that into DM-acceptable length of replies.

 

First and foremost

 

[unvote]

[v]Wishleste[/v]

 

My reasonings will be in the following WoTs

 

(Bonus: No more hydras)

 

 

[unvote] [v]Wisest[/v]

 

 

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LAUFEY (WishLeste), MAFIA GODFATHER, HAS BEEN LYNCHED

 

 

 

Final Vote Count

 

WishLeste (8) - Mish, sili, Taborline, Lenlo, Leelou, Tina, Eldrick, John Snow

Verbal (1) - WishLESTE

 

 

NIGHT ACTION DEADLINE IS 8PM EASTERN ON TUESDAY (Circa 24 Hrs from now).

 

 

I only really skimmed to look for votes (was distracted by colours a few times). There weren't as many votes as I would have thought, and not many votes were reasoned in the same post, so there's not much I can say at this point without looking at why people were voting and not voting (if they were around)

 

Got to run for work

Posted

The fact that wishleste was defending him is a good point though. I don't have an issue with you being against him. I still very much think he's scum. I'm just surprised at your turnaround.

Posted

 

 

Tress. It is really bugging me that your reason for Sili being Town is because cory said he is. How would you view him in lieu of that information?

Have you not paid attention to anything I've said about Sili? I cannot read him well. I have to rely on people who feel they can. Cory is one of them. I also mentioned in my D1 reads list that I felt I was starting to get a handle on him and was feeling positive about his contributions. The fact that Cory had him as so strongly town as of Night 1 means that I'm not going to question that without a really good reason.

Of course I have. I want to know where you would be if you didn't have Cory's view to base it on. Is because cory has him as town your only reason?

 

 

.....

 

:dry:

Posted
 

Oh, and I'm busy with college, so this is when I'll be around during the week, in case anyone's wondering.

 
Ok. This was the quote. The fact that it was a week ago today kinda debunks my reason for excusing his absence.
Posted

That...was weird. DM is being really weird right now.

 

After I posted that post, it showed that post posted directly after my post about commenting that I would post it when I got home. and it was on pg121, not 124. And everything said between now and then wasn't there.

 

Anyway. I did what I was gonna do before bed. Night.

Posted

 

HAHA! I am so pleased with that, I think this is the first time I've ever accurately thought someone was scum. 

Yuck.

What is it that makes you uncomfortable about me, Sili?

See above.

 

Also you come in at the end, when it is clear celeste is being lynched, spouting off the rhetoric everyone else has used. If anyone was mafia on Celeste's train, probably you or Tina. Lenlo's interaction with Celeste might actually clear him.

 

 

Who was I supposed to vote for? I had been talking those same things about Wish already from D1, which I came to from my own investigations as well as from conferring with others. 

Posted

I want to get back to this later. I need to get ready for work now, so it might have to wait until after I get to work to look at. 

 

 

 

 

^lol, Other than not liking Sili?

Lol.

 

I do like Sili personally, but I'm not liking what he's doing atm.

 

So far, my reads are contingent on as far as I can tell, observable results. I've changed my mind a lot since my last reads list.

 

Top scum: John Snow. Read above explanation. Atm idk if I was redirected, but if he had a kill, then I stopped it.

Scummy: Tress, Mish, Sili, Taborline

Town: Talya, Sooh/BFG, Lenlo, Leelou, Ocicat, Eldrick, Tina, Verbal

 

Some things I don't like: Mish's 'lynch my top two lynch candidates or you're scum'. Mish's desperate pushing of the theory that Celeste and I are Loki (XD).

Taborline's lurking and posting only to drop a vote on Celeste and me gives me a really bad feeling. It's too easy. Too convenient. :/

Sili's strong stance that we were town and then suddenly swapping his vote 'for reactions' while the thread was shifting towards us being the top WTL.

Tress, Talya, and Sooh using Cory's reads list to determine their own reads, but not even using the most updated version of that reads list.

 

 

Process of elimination says that Sooh, Verbal, Ocicat and Eldrick are town, when I before believed they were scum/null. Liking BFG's calmness and good analysis so far.

 

 

 

Anyway, redoing some thoughts.

 

Scum: John Snow (he's been gone for a long time and I'd like him to post. Feel like he might hammer us during the deadline. Or has he already done that? Prolly.)

BFG (even after all that kerfluffle I threw at her, she remained calm and continued to try to see a situation in which we weren't Mafia/Loki. Also, Sooh didn't look good with sheeping the thread read of Celeste/me as scum.)

Sili (yeah. I'm suspicious of him because he votes us yet sort of defends us against others by mentioning my meta. Regardless what I flip, he'll look good. Don't like that.)

Mish (really don't like her suspicions of Talya and other town. Also don't like her insisting on having her way or calling everyone who doesn't listen not town.)

 

Loki: Lenlo (cute. I don't see how Loki thing is a survivor wincon. Being the last man standing sounds like SK wincon. It would be best to have a gun to be the last man standing.)

 

the rest: town

 

 

 

OMG

 

LENLO = LOKI

 

THIS PUSHING YIELDED SOME RESULTS

 

Even if I haven't done anything else helpful for town, I at least achieved this.

That means that my reads list changes again.

 

Loki= Lenlo

Scum= Sili, Taborline, Mish, Tress

Town= Sooh/BFG, Tina, Eldrick, Leelou, Ocicat, Verbal

 

Probably means that there's a chance I'm vanilla. Meh. Oh well, that means that I don't need to survive. Eh.

 

 

 

 

VOTE COUNT

 

Ocicat (3) - Tina, Dice, Verbal

Pral (7) - Leelou, Ocicat, Sooh, Lenlo, WishLESTE, John Snow, Eldrick

Verbal (5) - Talya, Songstress, Sili, KeyBOOSE, Taborline
WishLeste (1) - Mish

Not voting (2):  Pralaya

9 to lynch

DEADLINE IS NOON EASTERN (GMT - 4) ON WEDNESDAY. No Majority = No lynch

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Correh last reads list.

 

Dark greens: Lenlo, Tress, Mish, John Snow

 

Light towns: me, Dice, Leelou, Sooh, Taborline

 

Nulls: Tina, Ocicat, Talya, Eldrick

 

Scum list: Pral and Verb.

 

 

 

 

Cory/Key

Sili

Eldrick

Ocicat

Taborline

Songtress

Lenlo

Misheru

Sooh

John Snow

TinaHel

Leelou

Dicetosser

Pralaya

Verbal

Tayla

My colors again :sad:

 

 

 

 

Also, please note my participation levels will probably be really low this week and nonexistent over the weekend through to the 15th. 

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I feel uneasy about Jon Snow. My first instinct after the flip was "well he's clear town". And then my paranoia set in and now I'm feeling like that's what we're suppose to believe now. Wish trying to set him up (both claimaing they roleblocked him, and saying he would come in and hammer him) and then him managing to "guess" their character and yes doing the hammer... It doesn't sit well with me. I'm pretty sure mafia saw on D2 wisheste was going down, and decided to sacrifice her. And hoping Jon would come out looking better.

 

I'm gonna do Celeste's post, because she has way less posts than Wish <.< Also gotta reread D1. I think that's where we'll find the most interesting information. Who defended them, who put me on their scum list for going after them. D2 I think it would've been more distancing when more people had them at the bottom of their list.

 

We should check specifically Oci, Talya and JS on D1. At the top of my head they feel like they have the most connections with them.

 

Also gotta check Verb, what they said about him and him about them. His continued inactivity makes me increasingly worried. I think town Verb would've put in more effort, but also that mafia Verb would've stepped up after first getting heat... I don't know. Been too long since I've played with him.

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I'm here, I'm here.  Was away for the long weekend, sorry folks.

 

 

You have my permission to eviscerate ocicat.

 

I tried to the other day.

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