[Advanced] The Usual Suspects Mafia - GAME OVER - COPS WIN

[wish-tree]

Wish - I can't find your post because I am now on mobile, but Zander has a mafiacrush on Laine. It started in a game a few months ago. I wasn't playing again yet, so idk much about the details of why. I just know them both outside the game and they are the same way haha.

 

I liked this much better when I was on an actual computer .

Ah, I see...

[Clovdyx]

 

 

Lol. Hi Clov-senpai~

Glad

Lynch all liars?

 

 

To be fair, I could have said "glad to have another woman on the site to pocket" and you would probably think I'm being honest.

 

 

 

And you're right.

 

For BFG's eyes only.

 

 

But you're really the only one I care about

 

For Lindsey's eyes only

 

 

 

Can I at least get a blanket for the couch tonight?

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

[keyholder21]

Wish - I can't find your post because I am now on mobile, but Zander has a mafiacrush on Laine. It started in a game a few months ago. I wasn't playing again yet, so idk much about the details of why. I just know them both outside the game and they are the same way haha.

 

I liked this much better when I was on an actual computer .

Ebwop (edit by way of post for the newbies): I guess I should say crush in general instead of just mafia heh.

[wish-tree]

 

Wish - I can't find your post because I am now on mobile, but Zander has a mafiacrush on Laine. It started in a game a few months ago. I wasn't playing again yet, so idk much about the details of why. I just know them both outside the game and they are the same way haha.

 

I liked this much better when I was on an actual computer .

Ebwop (edit by way of post for the newbies): I guess I should say crush in general instead of just mafia heh.

Oooh...heh. I see how it is.

[Zander?]

 

I see. I just find it odd that she was suggesting reading a whole game instead of like interact with people in thread.

 

 

You could technically read old games to get a grasp on meta, but considering the sheer amount of players in this game, it would take ages and I wouldn't recommend it.

 

 

 

Learn to read

 

 

lolololololol Nyn

 

 

 

I see. I just find it odd that she was suggesting reading a whole game instead of like interact with people in thread.

 

 

Nyn is sassy, rude, obnoxious at times, and have the greatest pair of tits in the world. That's what you need to know about her

 

 

 

Love ya Nyn

 

 

Nyn's also awesome and tells it like it is and dont mince words!!

[wish-tree]

 

 

 

 

Lol. Hi Clov-senpai~

Glad

Lynch all liars?

To be fair, I could have said "glad to have another woman on the site to pocket" and you would probably think I'm being honest.

 

 

 

And you're right.

 

For BFG's eyes only.

 

 

But you're really the only one I care about

 

For Lindsey's eyes only

 

 

 

Can I at least get a blanket for the couch tonight?

 

 

 

 

 

 

:o

Alrighty then.

[Kaylee]

 

 

 

 

Lol. Hi Clov-senpai~

Glad

Lynch all liars?

To be fair, I could have said "glad to have another woman on the site to pocket" and you would probably think I'm being honest.

 

 

 

And you're right.

 

For BFG's eyes only.

 

 

But you're really the only one I care about

 

For Lindsey's eyes only

 

 

 

Can I at least get a blanket for the couch tonight?

 

 

 

 

 

 

and

[Nynaeve]

Nyn - what about Kivam's content did you not like?

 

What caught my eye at first was the way he was supporting Laine's hydra hate campaign. Some others agreed with her as well (like Zander, wind and so on), but he went about it differently. Obviously I think the whole theory is a bunch of BS because it's 100% arbitrary (oh look, I used percentage so it must be true!). But the way he was trying to make it more than what it is, using mathematical certainty, reeks.

 

I didn't realize at that point that he and Mish are hydra, and I kinda liked how she was standing her ground, but looking at the interaction between them now... it looks awkward. I mean, sure, she gets defensive at anything. But then he explains to her how it totally does make sense (which it doesn't)... and she bows to his everlasting wisdom and backs off? Considering how strongly she felt about the entire thing?  Feels off.

 

But what really struck a chord with me was his reasoning for voting Pral. He dismissed my comments about it, but it's right there. He was trying to misrep Pral. It's great that he only played with him as scum.... but he can't make an accusation based on meta if he doesn't know Pral's overall meta. His responses ranged between.... oh I only played with him as scum so that's all I know.... to him claiming that his vote was just made for reaction since Pral hasn't checked in yet. Which I don't really buy. He could have dropped a nudge vote for activity rather than use a bogus meta reason for that vote.

[Nynaeve]

wind=wish

 

oops? lol

[wish-tree]

wind=wish

 

oops? lol

<3

[wish-tree]

 

 

Nyn - what about Kivam's content did you not like?

What caught my eye at first was the way he was supporting Laine's hydra hate campaign. Some others agreed with her as well (like Zander, wind and so on), but he went about it differently. Obviously I think the whole theory is a bunch of BS because it's 100% arbitrary (oh look, I used percentage so it must be true!). But the way he was trying to make it more than what it is, using mathematical certainty, reeks.

 

I didn't realize at that point that he and Mish are hydra, and I kinda liked how she was standing her ground, but looking at the interaction between them now... it looks awkward. I mean, sure, she gets defensive at anything. But then he explains to her how it totally does make sense (which it doesn't)... and she bows to his everlasting wisdom and backs off? Considering how strongly she felt about the entire thing? Feels off.

 

But what really struck a chord with me was his reasoning for voting Pral. He dismissed my comments about it, but it's right there. He was trying to misrep Pral. It's great that he only played with him as scum.... but he can't make an accusation based on meta if he doesn't know Pral's overall meta. His responses ranged between.... oh I only played with him as scum so that's all I know.... to him claiming that his vote was just made for reaction since Pral hasn't checked in yet. Which I don't really buy. He could have dropped a nudge vote for activity rather than use a bogus meta reason for that vote.

So, if I'm getting this right, you think that Kivam's comment is off because 1) he 'convinced' Mish to agree with supporting Laine, and 2) he used a meta reason for voting Pral, but the meta reason wasn't even accurate because it's limited to Kivam's knowledge of Pral's meta, which is why it's limited.

[Zander?]

 

 

Can we create some kind of Mafia forum social group marriage system so I can wife up Tress already

 

That's what bonds are for, you gotta join one of the social groups Me and Kay just bonded a couple of days ago

 

 

I will never join a social group because I have still have no idea what book you guys are all reading

 

Why can't we just create a Mafia social hierarchy with villawives and lunchbuddies

 

 

/in

 

 

 

 

Sorry, what's SW and ME mean?

 

 

I'm guessing Star Wars and Mass Effect, previous games on this site.

 

 

Yes ma'am

 

I like that catch up, i think we have townder back

 

I love you Poutine Lover!!!!!

[michellem]

 

Clov can be town for now.

I don't remember you doing stuff like this.

 

 

I can't remember either But, I did it now, and I liked it.

 

I'm sorry, I can't be serious tonight anymore. I'll head to bed and come back tomorrow (hopefully) with a more serious mode

[Nynaeve]

 

 

Nyn - what about Kivam's content did you not like?

What caught my eye at first was the way he was supporting Laine's hydra hate campaign. Some others agreed with her as well (like Zander, wind and so on), but he went about it differently. Obviously I think the whole theory is a bunch of BS because it's 100% arbitrary (oh look, I used percentage so it must be true!). But the way he was trying to make it more than what it is, using mathematical certainty, reeks.

 

I didn't realize at that point that he and Mish are hydra, and I kinda liked how she was standing her ground, but looking at the interaction between them now... it looks awkward. I mean, sure, she gets defensive at anything. But then he explains to her how it totally does make sense (which it doesn't)... and she bows to his everlasting wisdom and backs off? Considering how strongly she felt about the entire thing? Feels off.

 

But what really struck a chord with me was his reasoning for voting Pral. He dismissed my comments about it, but it's right there. He was trying to misrep Pral. It's great that he only played with him as scum.... but he can't make an accusation based on meta if he doesn't know Pral's overall meta. His responses ranged between.... oh I only played with him as scum so that's all I know.... to him claiming that his vote was just made for reaction since Pral hasn't checked in yet. Which I don't really buy. He could have dropped a nudge vote for activity rather than use a bogus meta reason for that vote.

So, if I'm getting this right, you think that Kivam's comment is off because 1) he 'convinced' Mish to agree with supporting Laine, and 2) he used a meta reason for voting Pral, but the meta reason wasn't even accurate because it's limited to Kivam's knowledge of Pral's meta, which is why it's limited.

 

 

Sweet and to the point

 

- Kivam is not a newbie. He knows that meta encompasses both town and scum games. Him trying to claim that Pral lurking = ScumPral is a misrep. I'm not buying that it's all he knew so it makes it okay to use it.

 

- Kivam didn't just agree with Laine's approach, he tried to solidify it with more BS. His interaction with Mish is more a feel thing and prolly less important. But it's kinda unusual for her to just yield like that, imo. This, however is entirely subjective and more of a gut thing.

[Clovdyx]

 

Nyn - what about Kivam's content did you not like?

 

What caught my eye at first was the way he was supporting Laine's hydra hate campaign. Some others agreed with her as well (like Zander, wind and so on), but he went about it differently. Obviously I think the whole theory is a bunch of BS because it's 100% arbitrary (oh look, I used percentage so it must be true!). But the way he was trying to make it more than what it is, using mathematical certainty, reeks.

 

I didn't realize at that point that he and Mish are hydra, and I kinda liked how she was standing her ground, but looking at the interaction between them now... it looks awkward. I mean, sure, she gets defensive at anything. But then he explains to her how it totally does make sense (which it doesn't)... and she bows to his everlasting wisdom and backs off? Considering how strongly she felt about the entire thing?  Feels off.

 

But what really struck a chord with me was his reasoning for voting Pral. He dismissed my comments about it, but it's right there. He was trying to misrep Pral. It's great that he only played with him as scum.... but he can't make an accusation based on meta if he doesn't know Pral's overall meta. His responses ranged between.... oh I only played with him as scum so that's all I know.... to him claiming that his vote was just made for reaction since Pral hasn't checked in yet. Which I don't really buy. He could have dropped a nudge vote for activity rather than use a bogus meta reason for that vote.

 

 

Kinda disagree with the bold about it being complete BS, when there technically IS some mathematical probability to it, and I really don't think he was trying to give it some greater accuracy.  He actually said the exact opposite of that, IIRC.  Obviously I agree with your point about his meta read on Pralaya, and I think you look good for making it.  

 

 

I also feel like I should tell you that I was more concerned with how you answered this question than what you answered it with, if that makes sense.  Your original posts to/about Kiv didn't seem to have that bite that I associate with your town game - very short and not...aggressive? enough.  

[Nynaeve]

I have to go to bed though. It's like two hours past my bed time. :(      ni ni

[Zander?]

 

 

Yes, really.  Trying very hard to stick to the PG13 guidelines here.  So ... no stuff, my very first ingame vote, made what, an hour? after the game opened had nothing to do with content from this game.  Nobody's vote at that stage ever has anything to do with anything from the current game.  So people are getting on me because I posted a ventvote instead of a jokevote? Seriously?

 

You know what, whatever.  I'm going to take a break from this game for a bit because at the moment I'm not having any fun at all.  Will be back in a few RL days.  Let me know if I'm dead. 

 

I have no meta on Kiv but is this normal for him??

 

Also taking a little break is cool but for days is not very pro town imo.

 

Ironically, scum!Kivam recently said policy lynch all emo.

 

But I don't know really. I get the feeling he's someone who can change a lot from game to game and I'm pretty null on his current rageface.

 

 

thanks for this.  the whole thing is still pinging me though.

 

 

Clov can be town for now.

 

.....Conflicted on this.  On one hand, I like the conclusion.  On the other hand, I'm not sure what I did to get this read.  

 

 

Hey Clov.  I like this response fwiw.

 

Zander am I a total sucker for starting to think that less lolololol and more !!!!!!! makes you town?

 

Let's be town warriors together again plz

 

Ive been told i need to tone it down and be more concise so people will actually listen to me.  Especially with so many new players in this game.  But the LOLOLOLOLOL!!! is still around!!!

 

 

/in Lets do this!!!

 

 

 

Zander am I a total sucker for starting to think that less lolololol and more !!!!!!! makes you town?

 

Let's be town warriors together again plz

...????

 

 

LOLOLOLOLOLOLOL!!!!!!

[wish-tree]

 

 

 

 

Nyn - what about Kivam's content did you not like?

What caught my eye at first was the way he was supporting Laine's hydra hate campaign. Some others agreed with her as well (like Zander, wind and so on), but he went about it differently. Obviously I think the whole theory is a bunch of BS because it's 100% arbitrary (oh look, I used percentage so it must be true!). But the way he was trying to make it more than what it is, using mathematical certainty, reeks.

 

I didn't realize at that point that he and Mish are hydra, and I kinda liked how she was standing her ground, but looking at the interaction between them now... it looks awkward. I mean, sure, she gets defensive at anything. But then he explains to her how it totally does make sense (which it doesn't)... and she bows to his everlasting wisdom and backs off? Considering how strongly she felt about the entire thing? Feels off.

 

But what really struck a chord with me was his reasoning for voting Pral. He dismissed my comments about it, but it's right there. He was trying to misrep Pral. It's great that he only played with him as scum.... but he can't make an accusation based on meta if he doesn't know Pral's overall meta. His responses ranged between.... oh I only played with him as scum so that's all I know.... to him claiming that his vote was just made for reaction since Pral hasn't checked in yet. Which I don't really buy. He could have dropped a nudge vote for activity rather than use a bogus meta reason for that vote.

So, if I'm getting this right, you think that Kivam's comment is off because 1) he 'convinced' Mish to agree with supporting Laine, and 2) he used a meta reason for voting Pral, but the meta reason wasn't even accurate because it's limited to Kivam's knowledge of Pral's meta, which is why it's limited.

Sweet and to the point

 

- Kivam is not a newbie. He knows that meta encompasses both town and scum games. Him trying to claim that Pral lurking = ScumPral is a misrep. I'm not buying that it's all he knew so it makes it okay to use it.

 

- Kivam didn't just agree with Laine's approach, he tried to solidify it with more BS. His interaction with Mish is more a feel thing and prolly less important. But it's kinda unusual for her to just yield like that, imo. This, however is entirely subjective and more of a gut thing.

Got it. I'll take your word for it. I gotta leave for dinner...so byeeee

[Nynaeve]

 

 

Nyn - what about Kivam's content did you not like?

 

What caught my eye at first was the way he was supporting Laine's hydra hate campaign. Some others agreed with her as well (like Zander, wind and so on), but he went about it differently. Obviously I think the whole theory is a bunch of BS because it's 100% arbitrary (oh look, I used percentage so it must be true!). But the way he was trying to make it more than what it is, using mathematical certainty, reeks.

 

I didn't realize at that point that he and Mish are hydra, and I kinda liked how she was standing her ground, but looking at the interaction between them now... it looks awkward. I mean, sure, she gets defensive at anything. But then he explains to her how it totally does make sense (which it doesn't)... and she bows to his everlasting wisdom and backs off? Considering how strongly she felt about the entire thing?  Feels off.

 

But what really struck a chord with me was his reasoning for voting Pral. He dismissed my comments about it, but it's right there. He was trying to misrep Pral. It's great that he only played with him as scum.... but he can't make an accusation based on meta if he doesn't know Pral's overall meta. His responses ranged between.... oh I only played with him as scum so that's all I know.... to him claiming that his vote was just made for reaction since Pral hasn't checked in yet. Which I don't really buy. He could have dropped a nudge vote for activity rather than use a bogus meta reason for that vote.

 

 

Kinda disagree with the bold about it being complete BS, when there technically IS some mathematical probability to it, and I really don't think he was trying to give it some greater accuracy.  He actually said the exact opposite of that, IIRC.  Obviously I agree with your point about his meta read on Pralaya, and I think you look good for making it.  

 

 

I also feel like I should tell you that I was more concerned with how you answered this question than what you answered it with, if that makes sense.  Your original posts to/about Kiv didn't seem to have that bite that I associate with your town game - very short and not...aggressive? enough.  

 

 

Whenever people start getting into the whole percentage calculations deal, I just blank it out. I don't like it and I think it's a great way to drown the thread with numbers and confuse people. I don't think he had much of a point. "I agree" would have been more than enough, but he was spoon feeding Mish about how the math does work out bla bla bla. Seems like weak tea to me. 

 

 

Also, yes, I get what you mean. 

[Zander?]

 

Zander am I a total sucker for starting to think that less lolololol and more !!!!!!! makes you town?

 

Let's be town warriors together again plz

 

...I don't know what to do with this post.  Zander was one of the best townies in Star Wars and IIRC he LOLOLOLed heavily that game.  

 

 

i answered in response to Shad earlier but i want to be taking somewhat seriously especially with all the new players.

 

 

Zander....talk to me.  I feel like you've been posting a ton, but I don't remember any stances/thoughts, and the only thing that jumps out when I ISO you is a post where you back seemingly encourage people voting Kiv and say that you don't have enough to vote him yourself.  That doesn't really follow to me.  Give me something I can work with.

 

Hey i dont like the emo rage stuff.  Not sure because of meta with Mish but seemed like she overreacted to Laine early on.  Im just waiting on seph to catch up and discuss what he thinks but as of right now i believe its the best place for our vote tbh.

[Clovdyx]

 

 

Zander am I a total sucker for starting to think that less lolololol and more !!!!!!! makes you town?

 

Let's be town warriors together again plz

 

...I don't know what to do with this post.  Zander was one of the best townies in Star Wars and IIRC he LOLOLOLed heavily that game.  

 

 

i answered in response to Shad earlier but i want to be taking somewhat seriously especially with all the new players.

 

 

I think you misunderstood my post.  I was saying I'm not sure what Shad's post means for his alignment.  It didn't really have anything to do with you.

[Zander?]

I have to go to bed though. It's like two hours past my bed time. :(      ni ni

 

Nights Nyn!!

[Zander?]

 

 

 

Zander am I a total sucker for starting to think that less lolololol and more !!!!!!! makes you town?

 

Let's be town warriors together again plz

 

...I don't know what to do with this post.  Zander was one of the best townies in Star Wars and IIRC he LOLOLOLed heavily that game.  

 

 

i answered in response to Shad earlier but i want to be taking somewhat seriously especially with all the new players.

 

 

I think you misunderstood my post.  I was saying I'm not sure what Shad's post means for his alignment.  It didn't really have anything to do with you.

 

 

#Fail.....my bad!

[Zander?]

wow.....that took a while.....need a break here soon!!!

[Kivam]

One more time with feeling: i made no accusation against Pral. I prodded him to participate because if he happens to be scum this game, i want content to analyze. If I haven't made this clear enough in this and other threads, I DON'T BELIEVE IN META. Good players can stay consistent across alignment and bad players will get caught making mistakes with or without meta on them. Other than wanting to know if particular arguments are out of character for a player (if i start advocating no lynch D1, there's something weird going on), things like affect and tone are meaningless to me, because they can be faked so easily

 

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