[Pick Your Poison] Pulp Fiction Mafia - Game Over

[Kivam]

Shad ure kinda right. it was a bit sussy but notice I didnt vote him. there is no way i could have been pushing someone not here on one post and no vote

 

So Dice, are you saying scum never nudges bandwagons by casting suspicion without actually voting the player?

 

[Kivam]

Im pretty lost on Kiv atm. I keep going back and forth.

 

I'm feeling much more confident in tayla and leelou, and strangely have leelou as my strongest town read. Her posts about were truthfu in my opinion, and even if she is wrong, she at least believes what she is typing.

 

Sooh, and Dice have fallen a bit for me, but I don't think I would lynch them today.

 

Bfg had a good post But if shad is mafia, who the partners would be.

 

 

[V] kiv [/v]

After reading kiv, bfg, and tina I feel comfortable with my vote here

 

Seph - what changed between the two posts?  Just Shad's ISO?  Or did you do your own reread - and if so, what did you see?

[Shad_]

 

Laine - I see possibly scummy motives behind what she's doing, but not scummy tone. She can fake her tone well to a point, but our exchange N1 felt just a little too Laine. She has me second guessing. I like that she challenged Kivam's 'no town reads' idea. I'm not sure what to make of Kivam responding to it with explanations when he responded to Dice with accusations.

Explain Shad? What do you mean by my tone?

 

Not sure I agree with Leelou as your top town read. I think Hally has/had her there too. I'm not seeing it yet.

 

I'll go back to those other things from earlier and respond when I feel like it.

 

Surprised Shad hasn't questioned me about the difference in my playstyle / activity. Yet he's talking about my tone being townie and me being unable to fake it? Weird

Red is just the sort of thing I've called attention to. I noted that you were too inactive to reveal much D1. That you liked some of my case on Tina and voted her with reservations about me, then quickly voted me after she flipped town. I didn't like the whole process. I've pointed out where things you have accepted out of me when we we've towned together and when you were buddying me as mafia you find scummy in this game. I still have questions at you that are floating unanswered (#626) unless search is hiding something. You took another look at me and your reactions were more reasonable--you said you don't always get everything the first time around--but you can understand why I am not thrilled that you got to wanting to lynch me before getting to reevaluate me. If I look at the whole thing from the perspective of "do these actions help accomplish a scum agenda", the answer's yes. I'm seeing selective memory aimed towards my mislynch. Now you're stating that I haven't questioned the difference in your playstyle / activity, and once again it feels opportunistic.

 

Unless you mean something like a straight up "Laine, why are you different this game?" I don't think that's a useful question though. I'm pointing out where I think you're treating me differently than usual and why I think it's opportunistic.

 

Blue Your tone is different from when you tried to push a lynch in Belichick and reminded me of how I've seen you push players as town. I explained the difference and you said it was "all crap". You actually took offense to some of it. Can Laine fake emo? Absolutely. It bought Zander a lot of yardage. Can you fake the eagerness in wanting to lynch someone you honestly think is scum? That I've not seen before, and I'm less willing to accept it.

 

I'm waffling between a course of action that feels incredibly scummy and tone that doesn't to a degree that makes me hesitant.  I said I wanted to look at Kivam.  I did.  There is no way that no scum have voted me in this game.  Tina's dead town.  I like Leelou.  That leaves you, Hallia, and Kivam.  Would be pretty bold if all three of you are scum, and I want to lynch the best option.  I have really conflicting feelings about you.  It helps your case that you were the only person to draw attention to one of the scummiest things Kivam is doing here imo rather than just answering his question and letting the subject slide.  I'm wondering if Hallia really puts forth this little effort as scum when she's guaranteed to get lynched for it sooner or later.  Kivam's only excuse is that I've never seen him play before, and I've made my thoughts on him pretty explicit.  Considering how exhausting it was to ISO him, I'm worried that a lot of people who have seen him in action before aren't going to commit the time to figuring him out.

[Andrej]

Vote Count 2.9

Shad (2) - Kivam, Hallia
dicetosser1 (1) - Leelou
Sooh (2) - Talya, Darthe
Kivam (3) - dicetosser1, Shad, Seph
Hallia (1) - AlannaLynn

Not Voting (2) - Thane Vakarian, Sooh

6 to lynch.

Deadline: 9pm PST Tuesday August 11th

[Shad_]

 

I'm on my way to bed... I had some ice cream though, very yum

 

Thoughts on Hallia? Her ISO is like 10 posts

 

Will do her next, after responding to a few more recent posts.  For those wondering - no, I won't be ISOing Shad.  I don't have the time today given the level of posting he's done and I'm sufficiently confident in my read to leave my vote there based on it.  Will start working on a Shad ISO after I've looked at some of the people I don't have a strong read on yet and if we both survive to that point.

 

 

You want to lynch me.  You should be able to offer a better explanation than you have so far.  What made my Seph vote switch from null to scummy in your opinion?  Was it my "deliberate misinterpretations"?  What made you assume they were deliberate if you were null on me prior?

[Shad_]

I haven't really been a lurker for a while. I made a point to change that meta here on DM and have, I think, done a great job of picking up my activity levels.

Hallia, are you planning to come into this game sooner or later and really engage?  I have seen you not lurk before and I don't understand why you're doing it now regardless of alignment.

[Talya]

Im pretty lost on Kiv atm. I keep going back and forth.

 

I'm feeling much more confident in tayla and leelou, and strangely have leelou as my strongest town read. Her posts about were truthfu in my opinion, and even if she is wrong, she at least believes what she is typing.

 

Sooh, and Dice have fallen a bit for me, but I don't think I would lynch them today.

 

Bfg had a good post But if shad is mafia, who the partners would be.

 

I agree about the Kivam bit, need to look here.

 

 

@ Sooh, I never said I thought Seph was your team mate. If you are wolf then hard defending someone as town is easy as you KNOW his alignment, if he is town.

Oh really? From what I read you seemed to be suspecting him too. I guess this leaves you with wifom. I have told you what I think about Seph. I have been good at catching him in the past, so unless something had changed drastically lately I don't think he's mafia this game. 

 

Another question Sooh, how are you seeing Seph as still town if his posting has changed a lot and he is mostly absent from the thread?

Changed a lot? How do you figure that? I have to be honest and say that I haven't noticed a change. Might be because I'm travelling and only able to give this game part of my attention, but I still don't see anything that makes me want to lynch him. 

 

 

He suddenly stopped posting, and has been sporadic after being dominant in thread.

 

Id vote kiv

 

Why?

 

Vote Count 2.9

 

Shad (2) - Kivam, Hallia

dicetosser1 (1) - Leelou

Sooh (2) - Talya, Darthe

Kivam (3) - dicetosser1, Shad, Seph

Hallia (1) - AlannaLynn

 

Not Voting (2) - Thane Vakarian, Sooh

 

6 to lynch.

 

Deadline: 9pm PST Tuesday August 11th

 

Hally why Shad, you haven't given much thought on him, please expand?

 

Kivam, you have dazzled us with words. In simple sentences why Shad?

 

Alanna - You seem to have a lot to say to Shad, but not voting him, why?

 

Seph why the flip to Kivam?

 

Shad, Another wordy guy, briefly, why Kivam?

 

How long until deadline? 9pm PST means nothing - AJ any chance of a count down. I have a feeling I'm not going to be here for the deadline, it's way passed my bedtime, and I'm not setting the alarm. :p

 

Lack of time now, but will take a look at Kivam.

[Thane Vakarian]

i went back to work yesterday for the first time after 3 weeks off...; it was madness. Today, they started major construction in our building, so i had hours of jackhammers to listen to. 

 

I'll be in and out now, for a while, trying to make sense of all the posts.

[Thane Vakarian]

people are posting short things, not explaining anything.... completely.

 

I was hoping that at this point we'd be able to clear a LOT more players, but it's not happening, somehow.  

[Talya]

I agree with you Thane, either not posting much, or doing WOT worthy of Alanna, but about not much

[Talya]

WTL Thane?

[Thane Vakarian]

i am kinda frustrated in this game. I want to townread people. But how? 

 

BFG was easy. Laine can do that to, i've seen her do it before. Not happening this game. Last game it didn't happen, she was wolf. Which makes me wonder.... 

 

i hate to rely on previous games, too dangerous

[Leelou]

I can't until after 4 pm my time. I have my review at 3. 

[Thane Vakarian]

WTL basically anybody except Seph, Leelou, Sooh and you, Talya

 

Consider yourself my fellow towncore. We need to make this happen

[Talya]

Gun to head who would you vote?

[Thane Vakarian]

Kivam, Darthe, Laine... 

[Leelou]

Thane, talk to me about Dice. What do you see? 

[Andrej]

@Talya - Can't do a countdown on my phone :( deadline is in roughly 12.5 hours, if that helps.

[Talya]

AJ you are a star, thank you. And I will be sound asleep, if not someone shout at me!

[Thane Vakarian]

It's more something i don't see by dice. I'm willing to give him a chance, should he be town this game. But i'm not convinced yet. Not blown away by any of his posts untill now. Quite defensive overall. 

[Thane Vakarian]

i could connect Laine and Dice some, if i wanted. And it would make sense too. She called me reactive when i called out for dice to suck it up and start to play. I'd say i was more frustrated town than reactive, but the slight defense is noted. Could be important later

[Talya]

Why Darthe?

 

Why Kivam?

[Thane Vakarian]

Darthe will probably bite a bullet tonight. I doubt i can get enough votes on him

[Thane Vakarian]

What do you remember from Darthe this game? I don't recall anything even slightly looking as wolf hunting. Some FoS here, some there, some odd comments, but that's it. I don't buy it that it can only be because of his new job.

 

As for Kivam, he keeps going on about the same things. Also, types a lot, says too little. 

[Hallia]

 

I haven't really been a lurker for a while. I made a point to change that meta here on DM and have, I think, done a great job of picking up my activity levels.

Hallia, are you planning to come into this game sooner or later and really engage?  I have seen you not lurk before and I don't understand why you're doing it now regardless of alignment.

 

 

Life is busy right now.  I'm chiming in at least once a day and giving thoughts.  So I am in this game, and I'm not lurking.  Deal.