Belichick - Mafia Eternal Night

[Shad_]

 

@Rand: I actually used to be AJ before Andrej was AJ so that's probably why it's confusing haha. I understand what you're saying though, I've been getting better at being town read

 

I just noticed your first post with my responses to the joke votes: you make it seem like I was setting up scum reads on people just for joke voting me? Seems like a strange conclusion, but I may be reading that wrong.

 

 

 

/snip

/snip

 

That's how I read it.  AJ was playing for town in Star Wars and his tunnel vision was a work of art.  I think the whole tying Hallia to his scum read of me spews him town.

 

Btw I'm totally getting vigged tonight if AJ has a shot.  :P

How does tying Hallia to you spew him town?

and Lol I'm feeling the same way

 

Because town AJ is hyper-judgmental.  In his head he's already so convinced I'm scum that he's basing his reads on other people around how I interact with them.

 

 

It's funny that I say this because I kind of do the same thing.  What's up with Thane getting one of Rand's only 3 town reads?

[Shad_]

Heading to bed, Thane and Rand :hopper:  to me so far, actually feeling really good about the other active participants.  Except Dice, but Dice is Dice.  I think I will always scum read him.

 

Thane Rand and one of our two MIAs for game solve?  Saying it now so I can see how totally off I was once I ascend to the DT.  :P

[BFG]

Ugh running late

 

@AJ talk me through your read on Shad, specifically what caused your vote?

 

@Laine talk me through your read on Dice, specifically what makes this game similar to Mass Effect and as a side how much was Dice talked about before he was kicked into POE? I've just ISO'd Dice in that game and his tone/conviction is miles apart from this game and Star Wars.

 

@Shad talk me through your read on Thane. Am I wrong to feel uneasy that you've now taken 2 excuses (feeling more comfortable from Laine and the disconnect between your notes and what you post that I mentioned) as to why you seem different?

 

 

Right now unless Laine has a really good answer Dice is probably my only town read that I won't tinfoil on in the next 12 hours

 

I'll be on at lunch

[Talya]

 

/snip

goodmorning all *has coffee and distributes where necessary*

 

Alanna: i tend to ping all the time, it has gotten me mislynched quite a few times. But it's how i play. If someone townreads me D1, that player is suspicious to me.

 

BFG: Happy to see you! Very nice entrance. I noticed you saw me mentioning Verb and Pral and me not wanting to lynch them. I don't, they need to play first. As far as lynching goes: the prime suspect would give most information, and personally i don't feel like there's a lot of diffirence between lynching a likely wolf and an infolynch. After all: you lynch suspects to get to a wolf, all the time.

 

Dice: wow, didn't think you would be in. and some post it is.... interesting.

:( I am still noting this continual posting on the same thing.

 

 

Whatcha thinking Andrej?

Like I said, mostly a hunch. I don't really understand his progression on BFG or the explanation he provided.

 

It also seems that he's more off topic than not (he isn't the only guilty one of this) but there have been places in the game where I feel like opportunities were there to make observations and he didn't. For instance, the Yates test and the Thane posts a few of us have commented on. I don't remember him saying anything about these and instead he's telling us about his house. Which is great and all but doesn't catch wolves.

 

 

Chatty because football and awesome explosions outside and I know some of you now.

 

Wolf Thane in Star Wars literally repeated the same four observations he made in the first 24 hours up until the moment he was lynched, while taking every opportunity to push things off topic.  He's already put out as much meaningful content as he did that entire game, and that's pretty promising.  I think if he's town it will become pretty obvious with time.

 

Talya's reaction to the no vote argument was promising.  She seemed to take it seriously and hop on board.  I can't give Zander a pass for it.  I think there's a decent chance he thought it was an obvious joke just like I did and played along.  I mean even if the rules did permit Yates' approach, it's not like we'd be granted a free win.  They'd be modified accordingly.  I think if Zander took it seriously he'd have investigated and seen that it was wrong, so null on his reply.

 

Yates test looks great for Talya because I think she sincerely bought it.

 

Shad is seeing the same thing.

 

I'm unsure what you're saying here, Hally, can you explain better? I read this post from Shad in a more positive manner for Thane, as in he's exceeding expectations after his scum game in SW, yet you're saying that Thane is being scummy from this same post.

 

Also, to Thane on the Dice/me situation: thoughts? You were there when it happened, I just want your thoughts on us from the encounter.

 

 

I'm with Alanna on this one, I thought Shad had Thane in a more positive light. From this I gather he is saying that thane has put in more in one here than the whole of the other game, which he found good?

 

Btw, I'm loving the more involved Hally, thank you

 

i'm currently trying to re-read. It takes time at work. i've said so before. Ignore that, if you want.

 

[v]Hallia[/v]

 

you're grasping., tunneling... whatever... 

 

I'll be back in a few hours (!) when i have managed to reread while AT WORK

 

This sounds to me like an OMGUS vote. Why are you voting apart from that?

 

[v]Thane Vakarian[/v]

 

Yay!

 

Why Yay!? I thought you had him higher up, I'm not seeing the progression here, please explain.

 

 

lets look at this.  Have I been here?  No. Is that my first post on return? YES. Could it have been a joke while i was catching up? YES.

 

Did you react badly? YES.

Ive been gone for awhile, but this seems like normal dice.

 

 

Yes i joked. with like my SECOND POST.  Keep talking laine  throwing blame like that is making me more certain

 

yates test seemed jokey in nature yet he is calling poeple town off it.

 

AJ was sudden with that vote on shad. I think he saw something that caused a gut vote

I don't care if it was your first post, second post, 20th post.. we're on page 18 and you posted a joke vote in the middle of game talk instead of adding to the current goings-on. Do you at least see where I'm coming from? Look back at how I reacted to the other votes on me, I even commented that I'll probably get vigged tonight as a joke. So you can't really say my comment was an overreaction.

Ehh, seems like you're reaching to find a reason to turn him into scum for a joke vote, anti-town read.

 

 

Well who would have figured on July 4th nowhere would be open? I really really wanted Asian food of some sort but all closed. At least I have booze. I'll just make a pizza 

 

Thane always pings a little. I would feel bad lynching him though after Star Wars

 

So he pings a little but would feel bad after SW game Why. He was wolf there, why would you feel bad here

This reminded me, another scummy read on Laine, don't like the whole feeling bad for Thane thing.  Makes me think you know what side Thane is on.

 

Middle Earth was a bit unconventional in a sense because it had two scum teams so even as a wolf I could genuinely town/scum hunt. Probably also one of my (if not the) best games to date so I wouldn't consider the standard for how I play imo.

 

Anyway - good morning :)

Eh, this seems like he's trying too hard to make people seem he is town by giving ideas of what his scum self is like, Not buying it.

 

So basically town reads on Yates, Shad, and Thane

Scum reads on Alanna, Talya, AJ

 

For now, [v]Alanna or Laine?[\v] not good at nicknames sorry

 

 

 

Official Vote Count 7:

 

Verb (1/7): Rand

Laine (2/7): Dice

No lynch (2/7): Yates, Talya

Shad (1/7): AJ

Thane (2/7) Hally, Shad

Hally (1/7) Thane

 

Not Voting (5/13):

BFG, Verb, Laya, Laine, Zander, 

 

 

 

is that a typo on Laine or no?

Hi Rand! I haven't seen you in forever lol

You can call me Alanna or Laine, I don't care either way.

 

Bold: Not really reaching for a reason to turn him into an anti town read. I didn't even put him to a scummish read until I looked back to see how he behaved as scum in the Mass Effect game, because someone brought up that he wouldn't tunnel as mafia. I was more exasperated than anything when talking with Dice last night.

 

To the underlined: Not really, I felt really bad pushing the lynch on Verbal/Thane hydra in Star Wars because I forced the lynch to go through after getting a guilty cop read and I was kinda mean. This game though I can't be sure and that makes me uncomfortable.

 

 

This is an odd statement, why would feel bad pushing a lynch on someone after getting a cop read of wolf on them and they also try to claim cop?

 

I'm not seeing the Thane thing - will reread later.

[Talya]

 

is it wrong to say that people who haven't even played yet shouldn't be lynched? I don't think so. 

 

I'm wary of people who either fully townread me D1 or vote me D1.... people who townread me D1 have TMI, in my opinion. People who vote me go for an obvious easy mislynch D1. That's how i feel about it, anyways.

 

As for Zander, i get more of a town feeling than null on him. I honestly think that we'd notice in his gamestyle if he'd have randed wolf. And, in the case of him fooling me, i'll disown him.  

 

D1 is the hardest day of the entire game. I'm better at connecting dots after a flip than reading players on what is said D1. 

 

I've been looking over your D1 posts in American Gods and yeah, you weren't super involved D1, but you were asking decent questions, trying to get better reads.  I feel like you're already settling into Star Wars mode here.  Your D1 lines are don't lynch the quite guys and Zander = town, and it kind of came to a hard stop there.  OMGUS on Hallia was pretty weak.

 

 

@Shad...sorry you answered here, Ignore the question above.

[Talya]

I read of Dice's "tunnel" on Ley in the ME2 game. He took something that happened between Ley and me on the way Ley is and kept on about it, it wasn't so much as to do with a play or response as more personal. Not sure this is making sense.

 

Here it is zooming on on reactions as soon as he sees them, there is was fluff and waiting to find something he could jump on and it was more about Ley being funny about grammer. Does that make more sense. He also was jumping on a band wagon.

 

Anyway, this feels more like a towny Dice to me. Alanna's reactions to me don't feel off though.

[alannalynn]

@Laine talk me through your read on Dice, specifically what makes this game similar to Mass Effect and as a side how much was Dice talked about before he was kicked into POE? I've just ISO'd Dice in that game and his tone/conviction is miles apart from this game and Star Wars.

 

I spoiler'd this because I have a lot of quotes and I'm sorry if nothing comes out coherent I was just about to go to bed and saw your post.

 

When he first jumped on and voted me, I was annoyed, because it was literally a joke vote 18 pages into the game that was being dropped on me, so I reacted and he called me scum. I guess I'm not really reading the same tone that he is from my post and that's why he was calling me mafia.

 

These are the posts of/about Dice from the point of his jumping on my reaction to now, I don't think I missed anything.

 

Dice to me is acting like Dice in the SW game.

 

/snip

About Dice, he was like that in the SW game, he seems to grasp something and go for the juglar, doesn't mean he is always right, but I haven't seen him do it when he was wolf.

At this point I wanted to check it out, because he was mafia in Mass Effect and there was that big deal with Mawt/Ley D1. I actually saw the same type of tone used there and in Star Wars with Durin, so this led me to believe it wasn't really alignment indicative.

 

 

 

yates test seemed jokey in nature yet he is calling poeple town off it.

How confident are you that I'm not just spinning my own derp theory into a "test?" I mean, you know I've been daddy day care all week and you know what sleep deprivation does to an addled brain. I guess I don't see what made it seem "jokey" outside of the fact that someone else later characterized it as possibly a joke?

 

I don't know, brother. I find myself siding with Lainey in her assessment of your play thus far...

 

are you thinking this is Scum!Dice or Town!Dice?  im really just seeing his SW game here on the wrong read like he was with Durin,  thoughts?

 

 

I remember those days, thank god they are over.

I'm not in a rush to hurry it along...

 

 

are you thinking this is Scum!Dice or Town!Dice?  im really just seeing his SW game here on the wrong read like he was with Durin,  thoughts?

I'll let you know. I'm not struck with immediate warm and fuzzies, though.

 

 

 

 

 

<3 Shad

 

I'm so down

 

LEAVE ALANNA ALONEEEEEE

Thank youuuuu

 

 

 

@Laine - Disappoint because you're bashing on my favorite beverage

Maybe a little bashing. I also don't like chocolate ice cream, tomatoes, oranges (they make my skin break out), cherries, watermelon, and an assortment of other random things including people and going outside.

 

This plus bacon and anything smoked or grilled and you have listed my favorite things. Die, scum.

 

I LOVE BACON

 

Mostly the things I don't like are because of consistency or acidity. Thinks like oranges and tomatoes literally give me rashes. Anything too seedy also makes me squirmish

 

 

obviously crawling for town cred

 

unvote vote LAine

 

lets look at this.  Have I been here?  No. Is that my first post on return? YES. Could it have been a joke while i was catching up? YES.

 

Did you react badly? YES.

I didn't realize the first time I read Dice's vote that he had highlighted "I LOVE BACON".  So it probably was a joke, but what an odd post to pick out of 16 pages of content.  Now he's tunneling Laine and that's pretty much exactly what he did with Durin in SW.  Meh, I'm not going to get into a habit of accepting Dice as town every time he goes off on a single track and rides it all D1.

 

 

 

yates test seemed jokey in nature yet he is calling poeple town off it.

How confident are you that I'm not just spinning my own derp theory into a "test?" I mean, you know I've been daddy day care all week and you know what sleep deprivation does to an addled brain. I guess I don't see what made it seem "jokey" outside of the fact that someone else later characterized it as possibly a joke?

 

I don't know, brother. I find myself siding with Lainey in her assessment of your play thus far...

 

what made it jokey to ME was that while yes its true I dont think its something you would seriously do.,

 

red   you obviously need more sleep bro. Want me to babysit?

 

Hally's Post (too big to quote)

 

At this point, I'm looking at those I'm town reading (Yates, Zander, Shad) seeing a poor reaction in Dice, and Thane (who I'm scum reading) failing to add any thing to the situation and not answering when I asked him thoughts on Dice (read re:Thane below). In the end, it's partially omgus, that his digging in isn't alignment indicative, that he's being read differently by those I'm reading town/scum, and PoE that's putting him in my "scummish" pile.

 

re: Thane

 

 

What I find weird about Thane is that he was present for the thing between me and Dice but was very strange about it; by the time I ask about his thoughts, he's already omgus-voting Hally and dropping out (he was at work) but I haven't seen him respond yet.

goodmorning all *has coffee and distributes where necessary*

 

Alanna: i tend to ping all the time, it has gotten me mislynched quite a few times. But it's how i play. If someone townreads me D1, that player is suspicious to me.

 

BFG: Happy to see you! Very nice entrance. I noticed you saw me mentioning Verb and Pral and me not wanting to lynch them. I don't, they need to play first. As far as lynching goes: the prime suspect would give most information, and personally i don't feel like there's a lot of diffirence between lynching a likely wolf and an infolynch. After all: you lynch suspects to get to a wolf, all the time.

 

Dice: wow, didn't think you would be in. and some post it is.... interesting.

 

no harm done

 

dice feels ... snipy/agressive ? Not sure what to make of that.

 

Dice feels hungover and tired Thane. Dice was joking and Alanna bit him Thane.  So Dice got annoyed and more sure he may have found scum Thane

 

interesting. I mentioned it because it's quite unusual for you to do things like that (in my opinion). We'll see where this will lead *nods* not bad, dice, not bad.

^Not sure if this is agreeing with Dice or calling him out for his actions?

 

 

perhaps we should imply a no alcohol policy?

 

You are hereby stricken from the rolls of the Band of the Red Hand.

 

At this point he's just joking around with Dice and avoiding the situation with Dice calling me mafia.

 

Below I'm asking him about his thoughts on the Dice/me interaction (this would be after reading back at the Mass Effect game)

I'm unsure what you're saying here, Hally, can you explain better? I read this post from Shad in a more positive manner for Thane, as in he's exceeding expectations after his scum game in SW, yet you're saying that Thane is being scummy from this same post.

 

Also, to Thane on the Dice/me situation: thoughts? You were there when it happened, I just want your thoughts on us from the encounter.

 

i'm currently trying to re-read. It takes time at work. i've said so before. Ignore that, if you want.

 

[v]Hallia[/v]

 

you're grasping., tunneling... whatever... 

 

I'll be back in a few hours (!) when i have managed to reread while AT WORK

 

I'm still wanting to know his thoughts on Dice at this point, but this is what got me to putting Dice and Thane in my scummish pile for right now.

 

 

 

Sorry my post is ridiculously long by the time you open the spoilers... I just wanted to get my thoughts out there so you see where I'm coming from

[alannalynn]

I read of Dice's "tunnel" on Ley in the ME2 game. He took something that happened between Ley and me on the way Ley is and kept on about it, it wasn't so much as to do with a play or response as more personal. Not sure this is making sense.

 

Here it is zooming on on reactions as soon as he sees them, there is was fluff and waiting to find something he could jump on and it was more about Ley being funny about grammer. Does that make more sense. He also was jumping on a band wagon.

 

Anyway, this feels more like a towny Dice to me. Alanna's reactions to me don't feel off though.

I'm not so much looking at WHY he jumped on these things in the circumstances, but how and how he carried it out.

[alannalynn]

@Talya: Because I have emotions. lol And I think I said something about Verbals scum game being terrible which I know was mean and untrue. At that point I was pushing a lynch on two people that I had a guilty read on but I didn't reveal as cop, so I just kept pushing until the lynch went through. I think I stated earlier that I'm also uncomfortable being unsure. In the past few games as town I've had a PR (Hider, Doc, Cop) so if feels odd relying on my own reads? Hopefully this makes a little more sense.

[alannalynn]

Okay now I really really need to go to bed, I'll be back in 6ish hours, hopefully in time for deadline

[Talya]

Thane being a sudden D1 wagon should be enough.

 

I'm willing to settle on him saying he's not scum to let him ride. Shad/Hallia scum imo

 

Maybe both? Don't feel particularly good about either

 

AJ - What do you mean by the bold

 

@Talya: Because I have emotions. lol And I think I said something about Verbals scum game being terrible which I know was mean and untrue. At that point I was pushing a lynch on two people that I had a guilty read on but I didn't reveal as cop, so I just kept pushing until the lynch went through. I think I stated earlier that I'm also uncomfortable being unsure. In the past few games as town I've had a PR (Hider, Doc, Cop) so if feels odd relying on my own reads? Hopefully this makes a little more sense.

 

I can understand the emotions, but I would have thought you shouldn't feel guilty over cop viewing someone wolf and then them claiming your role halfway through. I think if you hadn't have viewed them I could probably more understand, it was just something I noticed that's all, and I guess we all feel differently about things.

 

 

I read of Dice's "tunnel" on Ley in the ME2 game. He took something that happened between Ley and me on the way Ley is and kept on about it, it wasn't so much as to do with a play or response as more personal. Not sure this is making sense.

 

Here it is zooming on on reactions as soon as he sees them, there is was fluff and waiting to find something he could jump on and it was more about Ley being funny about grammer. Does that make more sense. He also was jumping on a band wagon.

 

Anyway, this feels more like a towny Dice to me. Alanna's reactions to me don't feel off though.

I'm not so much looking at WHY he jumped on these things in the circumstances, but how and how he carried it out.

 

 

I tried to look at content too there, he jumped on Ley when everyone was already pushing a lunch on Ley and seemed to want find an excuse to vote him, and went on and on being more sarcastic over something that wasn't play, but to do with his reading and grammar etc. In this game and SW he jumped on things he has seen when they happen and looked at that those and thought they were scummy...not saying he is always right, but there is a difference in play. I think this is another we will beg to differ. I would however like to hear if it was just that reaction that made him think you were wolf or your whole game, he hasn't answered that yet.

 

@Dice, do you haveany other reads, and can you answer the question about how you see Alanna outside the response to you?

[Talya]

so long post on Thane:

 

hello all..

 

i mostly agree that not all vigs should shoot N1.. that'd be a massacre and town suicide imo. Now that i'm on the good side again, let's wreck some wolves and get the lynching spree going!

 

If only i had found a susect yet.... but i will!!!

 

*hands drinks all around*

 

i'll peek in during the weekend *nods*

 

What do you mean by mostly agree. And the Second part sounds like you are trying too hard. What are your wolf reads so far (apart from your OMGUS on Hally)

 

i get the feeling that we're still missing a few players..... hopefully they will get in before DL

 

i contemplate voting Yates... he rands wolf way too often, so it'd be an excellent D1 guess imo

 

He says this about Yates ^^

 

And this is the response to Alanna

 

i'm just messing with Yates a bit. He can be valuable for town if he's town, so he's not really a D1 lynch for the moment. The past couple of pages, for me, were quite a lot D1 andnot much gameplay.

 

FTR: i don't do sports... ugh....

 

And, beer and chocolate ice cream rock! but it's not worth voting you for that Alanna let the game decide wether or not you deserve to be lynched

 

The last part to me seems quite genuine...I can see this I don't like day one and things always seem a little better after first lynch or nk!

 

yeah, i think the vigs should mainly holster. like i said, it'd be town suicide. And, i think it was yates who said that we need a smaller POE, so we're ore certain to hit wolves. With quite the amount of vigs... it'd make sense.

 

On the other hand... wolves also have vig shots, next to their regular NK? that'd be a possible massacre for town N1. On the other hand, the pool ofsuspects would be smaller.... ugh... posibillites and choices.... 

 

He brings up the nk again - he seems to believe that wolves have nks but Darthe later says they don't...again for me this feels more genuine than trying to push him not being wolf and acting ignorant about the nk.

 

SHOULD the wolves use their vig shots N1, the pool of suspects would get rather small. So, imo, they have a NK as well. It's going to be interesting how this will play out

 

Below is the second time he mentions Pral and Verb (he knows Verb is never on at weekends). The first part of the bolded he is correct, and I don't like lynching people who haven't even posted, the second part sounds good...but why put the question mark there, that should be a statement.

 

for the moment, Zander is the only one i trust here. I can always Vig him if he betrays me in another game.

 

As for Verb and Pral, they'd be 0 info lynches. Would be nice to wreck some wolves without too much town casualties this game, and we'd need to gather info to do so, right?

 

I'll be coming and going this weekend, depending on how the kids want to spend their time *nods*

 

I like below that he doesn't care if who he thinks is wolf is not to everyone's liking.

 

goodmorning all *has coffee and distributes where necessary*

 

Alanna: i tend to ping all the time, it has gotten me mislynched quite a few times. But it's how i play. If someone townreads me D1, that player is suspicious to me.

 

BFG: Happy to see you! Very nice entrance. I noticed you saw me mentioning Verb and Pral and me not wanting to lynch them. I don't, they need to play first. As far as lynching goes: the prime suspect would give most information, and personally i don't feel like there's a lot of diffirence between lynching a likely wolf and an infolynch. After all: you lynch suspects to get to a wolf, all the time.

 

Dice: wow, didn't think you would be in. and some post it is.... interesting.  

 

 

Odd post - sounds like he is sitting on the fence about BDG and then wants to treat her as a suspect.

 

@ Thane - can you clarify your thoughts on BFG and why do you have those reads?

 

unlike the previous game, there's 0% chance i'll flip scum here.

 

as  for entrance, i like how you get into the game immediately BFG. No fluff there. So, i'm mixed. Either very town and on it, or wolf and doing everything to hide.

 

mind if i treat you as a suspect, BFG?

 

First bolded, say it but don't do it. Your are voting to find wolves not because someone hasn't had chance to vote yet...don't like that statement

 

Last bolded I totally agree with this, but not alignment indicative for him

 

is it wrong to say that people who haven't even played yet shouldn't be lynched? I don't think so. 

 

I'm wary of people who either fully townread me D1 or vote me D1.... people who townread me D1 have TMI, in my opinion. People who vote me go for an obvious easy mislynch D1. That's how i feel about it, anyways.

 

As for Zander, i get more of a town feeling than null on him. I honestly think that we'd notice in his gamestyle if he'd have randed wolf. And, in the case of him fooling me, i'll disown him.  

 

D1 is the hardest day of the entire game. I'm better at connecting dots after a flip than reading players on what is said D1.

 

The OMGUS vote

 

 

i'm currently trying to re-read. It takes time at work. i've said so before. Ignore that, if you want.

 

[v]Hallia[/v]

 

you're grasping., tunneling... whatever... 

 

I'll be back in a few hours (!) when i have managed to reread while AT WORK

 

I want to hear a lot more from Thane.

 

Apart from her vote on you why Hallia?

 

Who do have as town reads?

 

Who do you have as your bottom reads?

 

There are points above that I have liked about things you have said, but the last couple are not so good, I'm leaning more town than wolf at present, but would like answers to the questions above please

[Zander?]

Cloudflare/DM need to stop being stupid.

 

#FullHungover

 

Getting caught up and about to take my misery out on this thread!!!!

 

Whens DL?

 

Im around.

[Talya]

Doing a reread..

 

This is AJ's response to Shads towning him. I have to agree with AJ here, AJ hadn't actually done that much. the only thing was saying about having this game slowly so he doesn't have to spend weekends catching up. Otherwise it was fluff.

 

 

 

Calling all Villagers:

I am one of you this time. I would love to continue this trend of DM wolf stomppages.

Let's make it happen again

Pretty tempted to believe that from what I've seen in 3 pages.

How come?

 

 

This is Shad's response, I don't mind about the question bit, that shad explains later, I can see it. But the bolded bit. AJ had just said he wanted it slower, and Shad is saying that that is something wolves like, (the only none fluff AJ had posted at that point), then Shad is saying AJ is towny? Missed it first time through, but it's contradictory.

 

 

 

 

 

Calling all Villagers:

I am one of you this time. I would love to continue this trend of DM wolf stomppages.

Let's make it happen again

Pretty tempted to believe that from what I've seen in 3 pages.

How come?

 

 

It's the slowest start of the three games I've been in, and most wolves don't mind that one bit.  You're already asking questions.

 

[Zander?]

 

I said I liked you.  You asked why.  I said "It's the slowest start of the three games I've been in, and most wolves don't mind that one bit.  You're already asking questions."

 

Did I initially like you because you were trying to pick up the pace, or because you were asking questions?  The former is (potentially) true.  The latter is necessarily a lie.  Are scum trying to figure out who is lying? They are assuming I'm telling the truth, so they instinctively interpret the statement in the sense in which it is true.  That is: "I like you because you are trying to pick up the pace.  For example: you just asked me a question."  Or they assume you did ask other questions and do not investigate such a trivial matter.  Or they pounce on my apparent error to incriminate me, or let the whole thing slide because they might come out the worse for wear.

 

Do they cautiously ask for clarification in the hopes that I say something outlandish and dig myself a hole?  Maybe a small minority do, but the path of least resistance says BFG is probably town.

Firstly I would like to say that formatting this on my phone wasn't easy - coloring the parts I want to address was the easiest way so excuse that.

 

Overall this posts sounds like a bunch of crafted bull. First and foremost.

 

Red: what's really the point of this? Honestly. It was like page 4 of the game so the explanation about laying a trap seems... fake. Also, correct me if I'm wrong, but didn't early you say something that you'd noticed the "mistake" but left it on purpose? The problem I am having getting my head around is how you could make a mistake when describing something you liked about my play so early in the game. In other words - were you making the read up from the start?

 

Blue: Lying - not necessarily. Misinformed or stating things that aren't factual? Absolutely. Wolves need to find reasons to pressure/suspect people so BFG pointing something out that could be easily fact checked wasn't really alignment indicative or at the least not worthy of a town read with what you supported it with.

 

Green:BFG essentially did what you're describing here as far as what scum would do. I don't think she passively asked for clarification - she saw the error and questioned you over it. Tbf I actually thought it came across a bit aggressive for her but I think that's mostly because I'm not used to her showing teeth. So again - the conclusion you're drawing doesn't really line up for me. BFG as either alignment spots that discrepancy imo and you trying to characterize it now as an intentional mistake really pings me.

 

 

yep this i agree with.

 

Shad is being very towny.  atp in catch up though like 0% chance he's being lynched today.

[Zander?]

 

 

 

I remember those days, thank god they are over.

I'm not in a rush to hurry it along...

 

 

are you thinking this is Scum!Dice or Town!Dice?  im really just seeing his SW game here on the wrong read like he was with Durin,  thoughts?

I'll let you know. I'm not struck with immediate warm and fuzzies, though.

 

 

 

Shes so cute!!!  Obv shes very towny!!!  and shes not wearing pants....wonder which parent she gets that from....lololololololol

 

 

That might be the funniest thing I've heard all week.

 

 

can i get a lolololololol?

[Zander?]

 

 

 

<3 Shad

 

I'm so down

 

LEAVE ALANNA ALONEEEEEE

Thank youuuuu

 

 

 

@Laine - Disappoint because you're bashing on my favorite beverage

Maybe a little bashing. I also don't like chocolate ice cream, tomatoes, oranges (they make my skin break out), cherries, watermelon, and an assortment of other random things including people and going outside.

 

This plus bacon and anything smoked or grilled and you have listed my favorite things. Die, scum.

I LOVE BACON

 

Mostly the things I don't like are because of consistency or acidity. Thinks like oranges and tomatoes literally give me rashes. Anything too seedy also makes me squirmish

 

 

obviously crawling for town cred

 

unvote vote LAine

 

 

 

lets look at this.  Have I been here?  No. Is that my first post on return? YES. Could it have been a joke while i was catching up? YES.

 

Did you react badly? YES.

 

 

I didn't realize the first time I read Dice's vote that he had highlighted "I LOVE BACON".  So it probably was a joke, but what an odd post to pick out of 16 pages of content.  Now he's tunneling Laine and that's pretty much exactly what he did with Durin in SW.  Meh, I'm not going to get into a habit of accepting Dice as town every time he goes off on a single track and rides it all D1.

 

 

even though im thinking Dice is town and playing the same SW. man i like this response.  I know we dont know his wolf game but I'm not sure wolf!shad makes this comment imo.

[Talya]

^^ Not if you have to ask :p

[Talya]

ebwop - my post was in response to the one above, the one above mine..

[Zander?]

i'm not at all surprised there. After all these games, you still haven't figured out how i play yet? good... 

 

Let me just try to figure out your teammates before i vote you, yes?

 

ughh.....reaction vote....DONT DO IT!!!

 

 

 

You can feel that way all you want Thane, but pardon, it doesn't make it so.

 

*waves at Laine* Heyooo! ^.^ Whatcha think of my catch up?

the bolded: don't like it... made me wince... 

 

 

this is your response to Hallia's question/pressure....ugggh!!!!

He sees that Thane has a tendency to do that for the first part.

 

I think the difference here is that Shad thinks he's posting about more topics in this game, whereas in my opinion he is already doing that very thing, with regards to continually mentioning only Verb/Pral until I called him out.

 

Hallia you seem pretty fixated on this comment.  you think he has a teammate there..or just a bad/pointless mention?

 

As I said, I have Yates and Dice as Null-to-Scummy as well.

 

Talya was in that group, but has gone upwards due to recent pages posting.

 

FYI- Yates not getting lunched today.  Talk to me more about Talya  somethings pinging me about her that i cant shake.  will iso her but want others thoughts.

i'm currently trying to re-read. It takes time at work. i've said so before. Ignore that, if you want.

 

[v]Hallia[/v]

 

you're grasping., tunneling... whatever... 

 

I'll be back in a few hours (!) when i have managed to reread while AT WORK

 

and then you did vote her....ugggh

 

Thane NOT LOOKING GOOD please redeem yourself immediately or you gonna be on the lunch menu!!!

[Zander?]

Shad probably a wolf tho.

 

Sheep me or don't. Not likely to change my vote D1

 

AJ Shad not a wolf here imo.  i really feel this way because its reminding me off me.  please remove the vote.  cause i have you as townish this game and if he flips town which is quite likely imo.   i will think that you are not playing in the best interest of our town again....

[Zander?]

Laine get out of my head!

 

Side note: I know we normally don't see eye to eye in games, I AM LOVING THIS!

 

 

 

Laine get out of my head!

 

Side note: I know we normally don't see eye to eye in games, I AM LOVING THIS!

Did I already mention I'm suspicious of town reading you? Btw, I'm suspicious because I'm town reading you. Make it stop.

 

 

 

 

Let me try a better way

 

 

 

*runs away from thread to be inactive for FOREVER*

 

 

 

 

Let me try a better way

 

*runs away from thread to be inactive for FOREVER*

Okay good feelings gone. lol

 

 

STOP THIS IMMEDIATELY!!! Halannai will just be too much for this thread to handle!!!!!

 

Plus it could effect my read of Hallia....who after hating on Poutines and tormenting me something awful actually tried one and LOVED IT!!!.....i wand to read her as WOLF so BAD for that.....lolololololol

[Talya]

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Calling all Villagers:

 

I am one of you this time. I would love to continue this trend of DM wolf stomppages.

 

Let's make it happen again

Pretty tempted to believe that from what I've seen in 3 pages.

 

How come?

 

 

It's the slowest start of the three games I've been in, and most wolves don't mind that one bit.  You're already asking questions.

 

Where?

 

So far AJ's 'rallied the troops' a couple of times, but I hadn't seen any questions until after you'd given your town read

 

 

Highlighted in red.  There would have been no explanation without it.

 

I went fishing and caught a BFG town read.

 

Heh, Pretend it's 3.30am and explain what caused the initial read again...?

 

In the meantime it's 3.30am I'll see you all in a few hours <3

 

Night all

 

 

Just a good vibe, nothing really.  But you're town.

 

 

This is a follow on for the AJ/Shad/BFG thing. At this point I'm not understand how Shad had towny on AJ when he had hardly said anything. I do agree with the way BFG came in and questioned Shad on it, others have said it was aggressive, I don't see anything aggressive there and thought it was a sound question.

 

 

Unfortunately I can, Zander. Thoughts on other players? 

 

Theres not much to go on but Im feeling good On Yates.  Finding him way more into the game and he's just Yatesing.(tm pending)

 

Like AJ tone much better

 

Alanna is always mayor in my town!

 

Only one kinda pinging me in the least is Talya can't quite put my finger on it.

 

 

You keep saying this and recently as well, you tried to post something which wasn't really anything, why do I feel you are looking for a reason to vote me but can't quite find it! Why is alanna "mayor" to you, what is it she has done that makes you think she is town?

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Calling all Villagers:

 

I am one of you this time. I would love to continue this trend of DM wolf stomppages.

 

Let's make it happen again

Pretty tempted to believe that from what I've seen in 3 pages.

 

How come?

 

 

It's the slowest start of the three games I've been in, and most wolves don't mind that one bit.  You're already asking questions.

 

Where?

 

So far AJ's 'rallied the troops' a couple of times, but I hadn't seen any questions until after you'd given your town read

 

 

Highlighted in red.  There would have been no explanation without it.

 

I went fishing and caught a BFG town read.

 

Heh, Pretend it's 3.30am and explain what caused the initial read again...?

 

In the meantime it's 3.30am I'll see you all in a few hours <3

 

Night all

 

 

Just a good vibe, nothing really.  But you're town.

 

 

 

<snip>

 

Do you disagree with Shad's read?

Yes, in as much of so far you're null

 

What do you think of Shad's reason for town reading you?

 

 

 

What if I said it's not the taste but the consistency? I also don't like strawberries for that reason. LOL sorry Andrej..

 

Shad I don't see what you're seeing in BFG. More of a null for me since I don't know her well enough in the game

 

Eh, I wrote a post, realized it had a double meaning, verified that one of those meanings was false, thought "heh, I wonder if anyone else will notice too" and clicked post.  Someone did.  I don't expect that sort of page 4 analysis out of scum.

 

 

So what was the other meaning of the post and how does that jive with you above saying that it was just 'good vibes'? What do you make of AJ not questioning your assertion?

 

 

AJ asked me a question.  I responded with two sentences.  Whether or not you regard the second one as a part of my answer or a subsequent observation changes the meaning of my post.  I was aware of this when posting it, so HMMMPF!

 

 

 

So what you are saying here is depending on how you read that post would change the way you thought about the post. BFG read it as meaning it before, but you liked that she pointed it out, and called her town out on it. If someone had read it as the second meaning, that he had answered you with a question, how could you tell what aligment they were from that. What if everyone had ignored it? what would that make you think? I'm not so happy with this reading it a second time, when I read it following each other.

 

 

AJ, why state that we need to preserve vigs, and then say VT need to towntell?

In essence my point was that the VTs need to make themselves priorities for the wolf vigs to use their power on by way of not becoming easy mislynches. The vigs/doc are the winning powers for town so by forcing the wolves to waste shots on VTs the village will profit.

 

 

I agree with BFG on this, all town should play as towny as hell. Vigs need to be able to tell who is town (no matter what their role is) so as to avoid vigging them.

 

after your reaction i think you are mafia

 

for the rest its been mostly fluff tho I took note of AJs gut and Yates test. 

 

What is it about her reaction that makes you think she is mafia?

 

i thought she was visible but fairly null Talya

 

Ignore my question before, you had already answered, I missed this.

 

*snipped loads to keep it down*

 

 

tbh shes still null i just find the tone "Now Dog"  :"We can still be lazy and win" but mostly my gut.  my gut served me pretty well thus far and im learning to trust it.

 

its D1 with not a whole lot going on.   Chances are there a wolf (s) in the little to non posters according to the CCSOHW and one (some) posting.   Just making my PoE.

 

 

Did you actually read the "dog" post bit, because you would have seen I was editing to post above with the word "Now" and dog crept in there. What was odd about that? As for the other, we all want an easy life. :p I don't like this at all, there doesn't seem to be any real thought about why I seem to ping you. I'm trying to work out is it you really don't know and don't where to put me or waiting for someone to come up with ideas that you can jump onto.

 

And what does CCSOHW mean?

 

Page 19 for my reference, need to get some stuff done.

[Zander?]

@ Rand was gonna quote.  We agree on almost everything except Alanna, not getting lynched on my watch.  we wreck towns together and shes playing very much like the other games we've played together in.  One thing we agree on is Talya though.  i like some of the pints you made on her!

 

Also Rand roots for the 9ers so pretty much clears him...lolololol

[Talya]

@ Rand was gonna quote.  We agree on almost everything except Alanna, not getting lynched on my watch.  we wreck towns together and shes playing very much like the other games we've played together in.  One thing we agree on is Talya though.  i like some of the pints you made on her!

 

Also Rand roots for the 9ers so pretty much clears him...lolololol

 

You have beer on the brain. (bold)

 

And what points are those? Because you didn't really have any before, just a gut?