[Advanced] Star Wars Mafia

[鲍勃不是我的名字]

 

 

No, not anymore. From her previous list it looked as though she was pretty much saying she was going to be inactive throughout, and I didn't like that. In the case of inactives I guess the mod would step in. I'm just worried that a slanking villager would  lose the game for us. Now that she says she'll be here more I'm happy to let her show me if she is town or not by her posting. 

 

Her list reads kind of rushed, like she said it would be. It's a lot of commentary on what has been going on and a few thoughts regarding what it might mean. I don't hate her vote on Dice, but I don't think I'll follow her on it today. 

 

Fence sitting. -___-

 

 

What are you challenging Sooh from a four day old (RL) post?

[Yates]

Summary: yates' insistence is kind of weird and one dimensional, but I agree with the bold at least.

The answer you seek is in the bold:

This defense is really pinging hard because it's way off point and the play itself seems out of character for Turin.

 

So there you go. Now you know why I've been riding Turin to answer me for two days and why I'm annoyed that he's been ignoring my question. I think he's ignoring the question because he doesn't have a good answer.

I was trying to read the slot. I saw something that didn't make sense to me from a Turin Town perspective. I asked a question about it. He ignored the question and kept doing it. Simple as that. Kind of like what I just did with NB when I asked him who he shot. He posted several times including quoting a more recent post than my own so I ended up voting him in a cross post.

 

Not sure why you think it's "kind of weird" that I follow up on a question that is being ignored?? It wasn't that I thought applying pressure to Dice was unreasonable - it was the TYPE of pressure he was using. It was out of character and looked forced. In retrospect it's probably something they talked about in their hydra QT but I don't feel bad about pressuring someone to answer a question.

[Yates]

Alright. Seriously going to bed now.

[Yates]

#PromisesYouBreak

[Sili Quirrels]

Townie leans

Salami - claimed Jar Jar - hated 

Dice

Sili

Laine

Yates

Talya

Eldrick

Sooh

NotBob

ThaneBalls32

Zander

 

Null

Shad

Maw

 

 

Scummy leans

Aiel <3

Wombocombo

Durin 

Seph

 

I am going to [unvote] for now. I feel slightly better about Heart, not thrilled with her vote though and a few of her reasonings. I want to mull over my scum leans before voting again. 

I think this mimics what Sooh does, and might be sheepiig the thread on heart. Backing off etc. when it's called for. The wording in the bolded though leaves it open to vote away from her scum leans at eod

[Sili Quirrels]

 

 

 

No, not anymore. From her previous list it looked as though she was pretty much saying she was going to be inactive throughout, and I didn't like that. In the case of inactives I guess the mod would step in. I'm just worried that a slanking villager would  lose the game for us. Now that she says she'll be here more I'm happy to let her show me if she is town or not by her posting. 

 

Her list reads kind of rushed, like she said it would be. It's a lot of commentary on what has been going on and a few thoughts regarding what it might mean. I don't hate her vote on Dice, but I don't think I'll follow her on it today. 

 

Fence sitting. -___-

 

 

What are you challenging Sooh from a four day old (RL) post?

 

because i'm rereading and digging up stuff. What's your question again?

[Sili Quirrels]

 

My best guess is that you were trying to make me look bad because I asked him to quantify his level of belief (or his thought of likelihood).  

 

Bottom line is I asked in order to gauge whether he had sufficient believe to justify his actions of voting and making a big stink and posturing in an OTT manner that parodies his town meta. The same meta he claims to not be able to properly emulate as mafia.

Ok. You saw my post above about why it was bothering me. Wish you had just said this the first time...

 

 

Okay, resolved on 71.

 

[鲍勃不是我的名字]

 

 

 

 

No, not anymore. From her previous list it looked as though she was pretty much saying she was going to be inactive throughout, and I didn't like that. In the case of inactives I guess the mod would step in. I'm just worried that a slanking villager would  lose the game for us. Now that she says she'll be here more I'm happy to let her show me if she is town or not by her posting. 

 

Her list reads kind of rushed, like she said it would be. It's a lot of commentary on what has been going on and a few thoughts regarding what it might mean. I don't hate her vote on Dice, but I don't think I'll follow her on it today. 

 

Fence sitting. -___-

 

 

What are you challenging Sooh from a four day old (RL) post?

 

because i'm rereading and digging up stuff. What's your question again?

 

 

No question.  Just assuming you're accusing Sooh of fence sitting.  OK.  Was hoping for more.  I can vote Sooh as well fwiw.  Right now my top 4 for scum:

 

Salami

Dice

Sili

Sooh

 

Looks like you want to push Sooh instead.  OK.  Tell me the case.  Cause most of what I see you posting is circumstantial and not convincing me to move her ahead of my top 3. 

[Sili Quirrels]

 

 

 

 

 

No, not anymore. From her previous list it looked as though she was pretty much saying she was going to be inactive throughout, and I didn't like that. In the case of inactives I guess the mod would step in. I'm just worried that a slanking villager would  lose the game for us. Now that she says she'll be here more I'm happy to let her show me if she is town or not by her posting. 

 

Her list reads kind of rushed, like she said it would be. It's a lot of commentary on what has been going on and a few thoughts regarding what it might mean. I don't hate her vote on Dice, but I don't think I'll follow her on it today. 

 

Fence sitting. -___-

 

 

What are you challenging Sooh from a four day old (RL) post?

 

because i'm rereading and digging up stuff. What's your question again?

 

 

No question.  Just assuming you're accusing Sooh of fence sitting.  OK.  Was hoping for more.  I can vote Sooh as well fwiw.  Right now my top 4 for scum:

 

Salami

Dice

Sili

Sooh

 

Looks like you want to push Sooh instead.  OK.  Tell me the case.  Cause most of what I see you posting is circumstantial and not convincing me to move her ahead of my top 3. 

 

i think it's basically like this. she has no content, she's resorted to excusing herself on a regular basis, she took 10 and a half hours to make a basic reads list, and upon coming back to the thread it seems she has no concurrent thoughts about her reads to share. Moreoever, i am pretty sure lee spewed one or both of heart and her as scum. i am more inclined to believe that it is sooh because the catch lee spoke of probably sounded a lot better to her own ears than it did to us. lee doesn't just randomly make a bad case on a villager i think, but she might make a bad case on a wolf.

[鲍勃不是我的名字]

 

 

 

 

 

 

No, not anymore. From her previous list it looked as though she was pretty much saying she was going to be inactive throughout, and I didn't like that. In the case of inactives I guess the mod would step in. I'm just worried that a slanking villager would  lose the game for us. Now that she says she'll be here more I'm happy to let her show me if she is town or not by her posting. 

 

Her list reads kind of rushed, like she said it would be. It's a lot of commentary on what has been going on and a few thoughts regarding what it might mean. I don't hate her vote on Dice, but I don't think I'll follow her on it today. 

 

Fence sitting. -___-

 

 

What are you challenging Sooh from a four day old (RL) post?

 

because i'm rereading and digging up stuff. What's your question again?

 

 

No question.  Just assuming you're accusing Sooh of fence sitting.  OK.  Was hoping for more.  I can vote Sooh as well fwiw.  Right now my top 4 for scum:

 

Salami

Dice

Sili

Sooh

 

Looks like you want to push Sooh instead.  OK.  Tell me the case.  Cause most of what I see you posting is circumstantial and not convincing me to move her ahead of my top 3. 

 

i think it's basically like this. she has no content, she's resorted to excusing herself on a regular basis, she took 10 and a half hours to make a basic reads list, and upon coming back to the thread it seems she has no concurrent thoughts about her reads to share. Moreoever, i am pretty sure lee spewed one or both of heart and her as scum. i am more inclined to believe that it is sooh because the catch lee spoke of probably sounded a lot better to her own ears than it did to us. lee doesn't just randomly make a bad case on a villager i think, but she might make a bad case on a wolf.

 

 

She your #1 suspect?  If so I can respect that.  Vote her up and let's see what the town thinks.

 

How about Salami?  Do you give this guy a pass for his boorish behavior?

[Sili Quirrels]

Salami was hinting at being a cop with one of his posts. I wanted you to give him a night. Not sure if  you killed anyone?

 

I think Salami is probably town, by content, but I'm speculating. It doesn't really matter if we lynch him now or later unless he is a cop.

[鲍勃不是我的名字]

Salami was hinting at being a cop with one of his posts. I wanted you to give him a night. Not sure if  you killed anyone?

 

I think Salami is probably town, by content, but I'm speculating. It doesn't really matter if we lynch him now or later unless he is a cop.

 

i didn't shoot last night....ok...agree to disagree on his content...never liked the self vote...although i'll concede about a 50-50 town\scum split on those who try this imo

 

if he's the cop he needs to post his views...would love to read that...

[Aiel Heart]

Re: Yates under pressure:
—I felt pretty good about how you were through and after that situation.
—Something felt off about Talya’s posts concerning you.
———I remember someone being very impressed by Talya post #2347 but now I can’t find that response
—Sili saying what Yates “usually” does—not sure how I feel about it
—The whole thing with Aj was weird, and considering how you are both acting now, I’ll chalk it up to the type of weirdness that tends to happen with you two
—This doesn’t matter now, but I liked Shad’s critical thinking with it
And that is a section I will need to look at more closely when I’m more awake

6. Leelou - The Emperor - Mafia Godfather - Lynched D1
Green: Csarmi, Dice, Sili, Laine, Yates, Tayla, Eldrick
Light Green: Sooh, Notbob, Therbal, Zander
Null: Shad and Maw/Clov
Scum: me, Wombo, Durin and Seph
—went hard against me and Sooh fora while, let go of Sooh and kept on me for a while
I would agree with the conclusions many others have come to; me, Wombo and Sooh would be good people to look at in light of Leelou. She never really pursued Wombo much, though I do recall a post explaining how he seemed a bit scummy. She was far more interested in me and Sooh, and she had pressed Sooh and then later had her as town, which was rather drastic based on very little, so between the two of them, I’d prefer looking at Sooh.
Also, an interesting note: I’ve said before that she usually pushes me early when she’s scum—she normally pushes Talya too. I’m not sure if this is actually indicative of anything, but it’s worth noting.
Her solid greens aren’t confirmed yet (a couple cleared, but none confirmed) but she never really gave many reasons for any of her reads.
And her repeated unexplained defense of Dice is still sticking out to me.

Thaneballs32 - (Thane and Verbal) - Darth Maul - Roleblocker - Lynched D2
—“strong town reads” were themselves and leelou as green, dice as blue and Csarmi and Durin as “town”
—later strong town reads were dice, Eldrick, Yates, Sili, Leelou and was waffling about Csarmi and Durin
—during the questionable time, said Notbob, Shad, Yates and Sili stood out—also told Eldrick that he was “disappointed”
—was noted by Shad that Therbal had appeared to not like Darthe or Eldrick
Hard to look at any of this because of wifom, but it’s still odd to me that dice also was so inexplicably high.
Like I said in my last megapost—I’m not sure what I think about dice, Verbal and Leelou together, but it isn’t sitting with me right.

Mawthex/Clov - Admiral Ackbar - Vanilla Town - Killed N1
~Starting with Clov because Mawth’s reads had been rushed and was relatively uninformed so early in the game~
—Liked Eldrick right away
—said as of flip he’d probably see me, Seph and Durin as pretty much clear, Wombat’s vote was the worst and Laine was still a bit sketch, but developed reasons to like her too
—A lot of defending me
—voted NotBob
—seemed to like Yates overall but did point out oddities to play
In #3987, NotBob says that he killed Clov because he and Sili seemed like the best people to have coordinated something with Leelou right before her lynch
@NotBob—why Clov over Sili?
And while I’m asking you questions, why holster last night?

Shad (BFG) - Queen Amidala, Vanilla Town - Killed N2
—had interesting stuff on Sooh that I don’t think he ever ended up posting
—analyzed whether Verbal and Yates could both realistically be wolves
—Did not like the Yates lynch and thought critically about it
—Did not like Dice because of the fake claim thing
—#3565 reads; pretty sure wolf is among Aj, Yates and Verbal; doesn’t trust me or Sili entirely; Null on Sooh, likes me less than NotBob and Talya
Makes Sooh look “interesting,” another person not liking dice, and not sure what it means for the rest, possibly nothing
Most likely lynched due to being a pretty solid town player? Possibly other reasons, as we don’t know if this was a mafia or other kill

Seph - Ewok, Town Phoenix killed N3
—#4077 will fight for Talya
—#4088 feels like Thane marks Sili and shad
—#4099 reads list (clear are Alanna, Zander, Sili and Eldrick, Strong are Talya, Wombo, NotBob and me, less town are Shad and Dice
(*takes a moment to blink at those numbers*)
—had gotten a lot of attention early on, thoughts went a little everywhere
Feel slightly better about everyone on his town list, though he can be wrong as town. Feel slightly more better (too tired to English) about Sili as of #4088.
Was a fairly accepted town player, though a lot of people were looking at him critically still. Could have been killed for a multitude of reasons.

Durin (Turin and Darthe)—Killed N1 with no info
—Fairly accepted town in hindsight, but still a slight chance otherwise.
—#2115 ok with Clov, Eldrick and Yates, feel like Sooh got off too easily
—#2474 has me, Clov and Wombat as a wolf, thinks that Seph, Zander, Eldrick, himself, Laine, Shad, Dice, Csarmi, and Talya should never be lynched
—had been on me quite a bit vs. Clov, saw Clov’s points as reasonable.
Looking closer at Wombat and Sooh again
Would have been considered a threat to either side

Lemme post this so I can see it in color as I finish up reads…

[Eldrick4221]

I wanted to hear a reads list from notbob, but realized I haven't done a good job of that myself. Here goes.

 

Laine is LOCK CLEAR in my book. If she's scum...well played.

 

I haven't seen Sili as scum yet. I've seen him as town, when I was scum. I've seen him as town, when I was town. I've seen him as cop. His playstyle isn't fitting what I'm used to. That being said, I liked his post about being worried about rolefishing. It felt very towny to me, and he hasn't done anything scummy. He gets a slight town read.

 

I've seen Notbob as town when I was scum. I've seen him as scum when I was town. I noticed something during his scum play that he didn't replicate here. Not sure if that's telling or not. Not sure how to read him.

 

I think don't think Salami is scum, but I'm not happy with his game. I was honest about the speculation of him being Jester. It fits.

 

AJ was scum in Darthe's game. He fooled be big time. I'm not sure how to read him.

The only game I remember playing with Wombat, we were scum together. I don't remember anything about his game then. I don't like his posts where he quotes stuff, and calls it wolfy with no reasons as to why. Don't know if this is good or bad to do for him.

Can't read this slot.

 

 

...and I gotta go to work.

[Hallia]

OFFICIAL VOTE COUNT

 

Csarmi(2): Zander, NotBob

Sooh(1): Eldrick

Aiel Heart(1): Yates

 

Not Voting: Everyone else

 

 

With twelve alive it takes 7 to lynch.

 

A deadline is set for Thursday, June 25th at 7:00pm PST.

[Sili Quirrels]

[v]Sooh[/v]

[Sili Quirrels]

@ Sooh - thanks for the boy on Zander, I was going to check the other threads to see what he was like. He is s prolific payer here so that's why it might stand out.

 

@ Sooh again - I don't like the idea of just lunching someone just because you just don't want someone that may oray mot be around. This isn't smells wolfie to me. There was a feel of wanting an easy lynch on someone.

 

@ Alanna - I'm also a bit suspicious of AJ disappearing, I didn't like how tunnelling he was on Seph, I need to go over Womby's post tonight. Because he is coming across better

 

Expand? on Zander's meta

[Aiel Heart]

Sili

I’m finding myself agreeing with dice; I’ve seen Sili normally make much more of an impression, and the lack of it this game is making me question, plus he’s also seemed more on the defensive and dodging more than is normal in my experience.
However, there have also been many posts I’ve noted as liking by him, he is analyzing and he’s seeming to act more normal now (pressure or time causing, it’s hard to say). In addition, nothing is jumping out of me in my skim of his ISO, and he looks a slightly better in light of my last post, though there are a lot of mixed reads there too

Alannalynn
Was a little reckless in her certainty last night, has been kind of cruising now but still is informed in what is going on and acting cleared. Will keep her town.
—Question: have you done those investigations yet and have you any new thoughts?

NotBob
Claims Vig (N1 kill Clov(?), N2 holster)
Ok actually the exact wording was that he did not shoot. (Had forgotten about that until just now)
Coming in and being a little more active in the game now, was still just commentating for a while.
A few questionable things, like posting to show that he was there without actually giving thoughts to the situation at hand, and also the difference in voting while being caught up D1 vs D1. Have a good feeling about him right now (but I’ve said that before…)
So, along the former line of questioning:
—Why Clov over Sili?
—Why holster last night?
—Anything else you would be willing to tell us regarding your claim?

Sooh (Mentored by Pizza)
Once again, started out the game with a few more of her own independent thoughts, and I saw a few more of those come today, which I liked. Has been showing some of her pop in, pop out behavior.
There are two common reasons to her being looked at, one being her activity, and two being the situation with Leelou. Shad also had some “interesting” stuff on Sooh which I don’t remember being posted, and then Durin had noted that they felt like Sooh had gotten off easy. A span of reads are on her right now, so if nothing else, she would at least be an informative lynch.

Zander
Since my last post, has been doing a lot of analyzing, looking at the possible combinations of scum, trying to solve in my opinion. Is also acting fairly cleared, and I think he’s reacted to the bit of pressure he’s gotten well. Considered basically clear by many, including those in the above post

Eldrick
He’s been giving a lot of thoughts on specific people and giving lots of reads, and also trying to solve. Something’s felt funny about him though, and I’m not sure what. Pretty townie looking through the eyes of the dead though.

Talya
I feel like I remember far too little about Talya’s play. Analyzed Yates when he was one of the people of interest, been a lot of commentating with some analysis thrown in. Will need to ISO when I’m awake.
Looking at my last post, lot of passed townies supported her (though I don’t remember strong reasons why…) and the only thing there that gives me pause is that Leelou usually pushes her too (might have been waiting for a different day though… Or just trying to be atypical)

Yates
Claims C-3PO
Been feeling better to me since he’s been able to post more. I felt decent about the way he responded to the pressure as well.
Need to look at the EoD2 stuff better when more awake.

Dice
Felt like he was trying to deflect attention in the early #3300s, Has done some analysis that I like today, can’t say I’m fond of the way he’s gone about a few things though. There’s a couple of his posts that I’ve marked that I need to look at closer lately, and now is not the time to do that.
Still don’t like him in terms of Therbal and Leelou, but still need to hash out that one with myself as well. Will lift to a lean until I can look at closer

WomboCombo (Wombat and Andrej)
Theres all the stuff EoD2 that I need to look at closer (#4342 concerning that felt off to me)
Have liked a lot of their posts over time
Could warrant a look at due to placement on Leelou’s and Durin’s lists

Csarmi
Claims Hated—requires one less vote to be lynched—Jar Jar Binks
Some giving thoughts, analyzing a few of the actions. Could very well be town, just going about it in a way that isn’t very helpful
#4215 Based on ISOs, moved Dice up to blue and Sooh slightly down to blue/green.
—What was in their ISOs to cause this change (sort of explained Sooh in post but explain dice?)



Want to see what others say and also get some sleep—will expand a few of those and answer questions tomorrow afternoon.
Right now I think a Sooh lynch would be best. 


Oh btw Yates:

 

 

 

 

[鲍勃不是我的名字]

 

Mawthex/Clov - Admiral Ackbar - Vanilla Town - Killed N1

~Starting with Clov because Mawth’s reads had been rushed and was relatively uninformed so early in the game~

—Liked Eldrick right away

—said as of flip he’d probably see me, Seph and Durin as pretty much clear, Wombat’s vote was the worst and Laine was still a bit sketch, but developed reasons to like her too

—A lot of defending me

—voted NotBob

—seemed to like Yates overall but did point out oddities to play

In #3987, NotBob says that he killed Clov because he and Sili seemed like the best people to have coordinated something with Leelou right before her lynch

@NotBob—why Clov over Sili?

And while I’m asking you questions, why holster last night?

 

 

Lemme post this so I can see it in color as I finish up reads…

 

Clov pushed my credibility...and I shot him.  sili never challenged...but he was on Laine's train,,,i still contend another scum most likely attended the EOD activities and tried to keep leelou alive.

 

Last night I saw the three in my sights...and felt they gave effort...and this appealed to my better angels....which is another reason why Csarmi disappoints so much today.

[Andrej]

[v]Sooh[/v]

 

Seems to be the best choice for toDay.

 

Something to note is Sooh/Yates both gunning after other people who have responably more town equity than they would against each other.

 

Sooh with Csarmi, Yates with Heart.

 

Food for thought

[Hallia]

OFFICIAL VOTE COUNT

 

Csarmi(2): Zander, NotBob

Sooh(3): Eldrick, Sili, WomboCombo

Aiel Heart(1): Yates

 

Not Voting: Everyone else

 

 

With twelve alive it takes 7 to lynch.

 

A deadline is set for Thursday, June 25th at 7:00pm PST.

[Talya]

@Heart - when has Leelou ever gone for me me when wolf. The only game I have played in with her was the Middle Earth game and we were both town. Before that was a long time ago... Where did you get that from?

 

On the whole that wasn't a bad summary how about a quick list to understand you wolves and town better.

 

Sooh doesn't seem to want to engage in this game. Still not done much. At present I would lean more to Sooh than AH. I'm still uncertain about Wombej.

[Eldrick4221]

[unvote]

 

[v]Wombo[/v]

 

Don't trust AJ. Can't read Wombat. Fairly certain there's scum in Heart/Wombo. Feeling better about Heart.

 

Still happy with a Sooh lynch, if she doesn't start playing. Don't want the votes to fly up without giving her a chance. Internet problems SUCK.

 

BTW Sooh, if you're town, you could always see if you could sub out, if you're not able to play. If you're a wolf...keep doing what you're doing.

[alannalynn]

I'm on break and responding to the above. Heart: "acting cleared" and "cruising"? Maybe I'm tired lol. Ftr, I am cleared, and dice is town. I'll be home after work an try to use my brain some. It's been a rough work week so far and it's only Tuesday.

 

Still confused on Yates and being cleared. I need more info

[csarmi]

We might need you to use your brain indeed. Sorry about that!