[Advanced] Star Wars Mafia

[Aiel Heart]

 

#4572 @ Talya in a mafia QT when she was scum when they were throwing out people they’d want to get rid of early and Leelou had listed both of us because we know her well and can read her. Can not for the life of me tell you what game that was though… I want to say it was recent as the memory seems fresh but maybe that’s a random file that stayed from long ago…?[/size]

 

#4574 @ Laine—“acting cleared” as in acting confident and leading. “Cruising” I’m having a harder time defining. Like when you’re cruising in a car—keep going on with the speed you have and letting the game play out itself for the time somewhat? Idk it’s a good thing. You’re using the momentum you have. I’m not describing it well.

 

#4582 @ Sili re not sure how I feel about you saying what Yates “usually” does—to be honest, I don’t know what I was referring to either. I can’t find anything referring to it in my notes on you… If I find it I’ll let you know. Otherwise it might be misattributed

 

#4633 @ Laine just because I trust you doesn’t mean I trust your reads to be correct. Town =/= correct and you know that

 

#4653 @Laine—you said you were comparing people’s lists. Did this turn up anything interesting?

 

#4689 quoted from Yates

And I was wrong. Sili was not around. So then the next question is; does Thaneballs try to pull a fake claim like this without his scumbuddy around? Probably not. So this could be a good thing in Sooh, AH and Wombo's favor since they weren't around either...

Zander noted that they might have just claimed because the end was quick. Additionally, we seem to be in agreement that there are most likely two scum left, which doesn’t necessarily clear any of us you listed.

 

re #4711 Wombat pressuring Eldrick still willing to lynch Sooh but voting Wombat--maybe I'm just not following what you're saying there correctly, but if there are two mafia left (circa my last response) and he thinks ONE of them is between me and the two of you, then why shouldn't he still be looking at Sooh? You can change your mind on who is the better option...

 

Oh and re:my activity--thought I would be far more active. My grandma usually just leaves me behind and goes places when I stay with her. This time she's taking me with her, and I'm not going to skip out on that for mafia, though I do regret my time away from the game. I'm here and staying caught up.

 

Would like to hear from Sooh before I put a vote on her, and will be around again before EoD. 

 

What was the bolder about?  Can you help?

 

In one of my write ups I had mentioned something about Sili saying what Yates "usually" does. I have yet to figure out where in my notes (or brain) that came from, but it wasn't the sili section

 

@ Heart whats your WTL look like today?

Working on it

 

 

Darthe said something just before his death. that AH was first on the leelou train but that she may have just parked her vote somewhere safe knowing its the GF and was not a likely looking lynch. After all  that lynch just snapped into place.  I can see his point  AH has been inactive. I think she got trapped on that lynch..had no way off cause of how it happened

 

then she said this after darthe flip    with my reaction at the time.  TY to eldrick for quoting before i needed it lol

 

 

 

I think it's more likely that that there's a third party killer who renders it's death targets unreadable. 

 

Shad, how would Darthe have died by that theory?

 

Did no one else see this? 3rd party killer who kills unreadably. And its MORE LIKELY.  then Janitor??  Gimme a break.

 

AH has been around enough to know this

 

Vote AH

 

 

I missed this post, and I also missed the wording in Heart's post.

 

This is a point against Heart.

 

 

 

Sounded like trying to get talk away from  or at least wifoming the Janitor

 

Good point against Heart.

 

Addressed this multiple times already; sleepy brain went straight to Fett and I've not played with anything resembling a janitor in a very long time. I was saying it was more likely than the doc stuff that Shad was posting about, and the Janitor post had ninja'd me

[Zander?]

So pretty Sure the only two people who won't vote sili atm is wombo and heart. Or at least considered it

 

#ISTILLBELIEVE!!!

#IHAVEFAITHINTHISTOWNSTILL!!!!

[Aiel Heart]

So pretty Sure the only two people who won't vote sili atm is wombo and heart. Or at least considered it

Looked at sili already and am willing to consider it. Need to see where he falls in line with everyone else first

[Andrej]

Seph I told you from the beginning I was gonna ride you. There really isn't much else to consider imo.

 

Seeing all the claims and knowing my role, I don't think Heart is the doc. I didn't really believe she was when she first claimed because of the situation and sketchy reasoning around missing obvious protects.

 

She hasn't done anything to change my mind and her posts in defense sound like a caught wolf. That one she did with the Princess Bride wifom guy picture was legit bad.

 

You wanna complain because I'm not doing anything. Well guess what? The work is done. Just like it was in American Gods. The wolves are outed. We just need to lynch them now

[Andrej]

I love how basically all of Heart's posts come with some excuse.

 

Seriously everyone.

[Aiel Heart]

Seriously, the popcorn in eternity

[Aiel Heart]

Four people left to go through notes for

[鲍勃不是我的名字]

 

Heart has no choice but to protect me if shes town. 

 

and so no WIFoM I WILL PEEK HER!!!

 

This is the right course of action to force Heart's hand, but I really don't like the idea of lynching one of Sili/Yates first - I really don't think they flip wolf and I'd hate to spoil the streak town has going.

 

Even 4/5 isn't that nice compared to 4/4.

 

 

Stop going for glory points...we need intel...the more the better.

[Zander?]

 

 

Heart has no choice but to protect me if shes town. 

 

and so no WIFoM I WILL PEEK HER!!!

 

This is the right course of action to force Heart's hand, but I really don't like the idea of lynching one of Sili/Yates first - I really don't think they flip wolf and I'd hate to spoil the streak town has going.

 

Even 4/5 isn't that nice compared to 4/4.

 

 

Stop going for glory points...we need intel...the more the better.

 

 

YES THIS!!!!!^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

[鲍勃不是我的名字]

 

 

Heart has no choice but to protect me if shes town. 

 

and so no WIFoM I WILL PEEK HER!!!

 

This is the right course of action to force Heart's hand, but I really don't like the idea of lynching one of Sili/Yates first - I really don't think they flip wolf and I'd hate to spoil the streak town has going.

 

Even 4/5 isn't that nice compared to 4/4.

 

 

yes 4/4 is better....STILL DONT WANNA RISK LYNCHING THE DOC!!!  if she is lynched and flips town IM DEAD without getting a peek.  lynching her MAKES 0 sense if were wrong.  while lynching yates/sili gives us info and a chance to protect me and Hearts claim.  if i die then shes lynched.

 

IT IS THIS SIMPLE!!!

 

 

I'd like to hear everyone offer their arguments against this?

[鲍勃不是我的名字]

Seph I told you from the beginning I was gonna ride you. There really isn't much else to consider imo.

 

Seeing all the claims and knowing my role, I don't think Heart is the doc. I didn't really believe she was when she first claimed because of the situation and sketchy reasoning around missing obvious protects.

 

She hasn't done anything to change my mind and her posts in defense sound like a caught wolf. That one she did with the Princess Bride wifom guy picture was legit bad.

 

You wanna complain because I'm not doing anything. Well guess what? The work is done. Just like it was in American Gods. The wolves are outed. We just need to lynch them now

 

Say again what he lesson learned was from that game?  Specifically what towns should learn?  Probably best relegated to end game...but I have my own thoughts...and right now I'm seeing something similar.

[Zander?]

 

 

 

Heart has no choice but to protect me if shes town. 

 

and so no WIFoM I WILL PEEK HER!!!

 

This is the right course of action to force Heart's hand, but I really don't like the idea of lynching one of Sili/Yates first - I really don't think they flip wolf and I'd hate to spoil the streak town has going.

 

Even 4/5 isn't that nice compared to 4/4.

 

 

yes 4/4 is better....STILL DONT WANNA RISK LYNCHING THE DOC!!!  if she is lynched and flips town IM DEAD without getting a peek.  lynching her MAKES 0 sense if were wrong.  while lynching yates/sili gives us info and a chance to protect me and Hearts claim.  if i die then shes lynched.

 

IT IS THIS SIMPLE!!!

 

 

I'd like to hear everyone offer their arguments against this?

 

 

is my logic flawed here??

[Zander?]

 

Seph I told you from the beginning I was gonna ride you. There really isn't much else to consider imo.

 

Seeing all the claims and knowing my role, I don't think Heart is the doc. I didn't really believe she was when she first claimed because of the situation and sketchy reasoning around missing obvious protects.

 

She hasn't done anything to change my mind and her posts in defense sound like a caught wolf. That one she did with the Princess Bride wifom guy picture was legit bad.

 

You wanna complain because I'm not doing anything. Well guess what? The work is done. Just like it was in American Gods. The wolves are outed. We just need to lynch them now

 

Say again what he lesson learned was from that game?  Specifically what towns should learn?  Probably best relegated to end game...but I have my own thoughts...and right now I'm seeing something similar.

 

 

this will make no sense for those who didnt play in it or read it.  will someone elaborate please?

[鲍勃不是我的名字]

 

 

 

 

Heart has no choice but to protect me if shes town. 

 

and so no WIFoM I WILL PEEK HER!!!

 

This is the right course of action to force Heart's hand, but I really don't like the idea of lynching one of Sili/Yates first - I really don't think they flip wolf and I'd hate to spoil the streak town has going.

 

Even 4/5 isn't that nice compared to 4/4.

 

 

yes 4/4 is better....STILL DONT WANNA RISK LYNCHING THE DOC!!!  if she is lynched and flips town IM DEAD without getting a peek.  lynching her MAKES 0 sense if were wrong.  while lynching yates/sili gives us info and a chance to protect me and Hearts claim.  if i die then shes lynched.

 

IT IS THIS SIMPLE!!!

 

 

I'd like to hear everyone offer their arguments against this?

 

 

is my logic flawed here??

 

 

Not by me.

[鲍勃不是我的名字]

 

 

Seph I told you from the beginning I was gonna ride you. There really isn't much else to consider imo.

 

Seeing all the claims and knowing my role, I don't think Heart is the doc. I didn't really believe she was when she first claimed because of the situation and sketchy reasoning around missing obvious protects.

 

She hasn't done anything to change my mind and her posts in defense sound like a caught wolf. That one she did with the Princess Bride wifom guy picture was legit bad.

 

You wanna complain because I'm not doing anything. Well guess what? The work is done. Just like it was in American Gods. The wolves are outed. We just need to lynch them now

 

Say again what he lesson learned was from that game?  Specifically what towns should learn?  Probably best relegated to end game...but I have my own thoughts...and right now I'm seeing something similar.

 

 

this will make no sense for those who didnt play in it or read it.  will someone elaborate please?

 

 

I want AJ to provide his thoughts first...you're probably right...better left to end of game.

[Andrej]

Four people left to go through notes for

What notes do you really need to go over? Basically everyone has claimed at this point. Who do you think is lying and why?

[Andrej]

Zander your logic isn't flawed if you want to allow lynching likely villagers over obvious wolves - but if this is the only way to get you guys to see Heart for the wolf she is then a compromise can be made. Still don't like it but I don't know if I'm bringing you guys to my side on this and thankfully we have wiggle room.

[Andrej]

@NotBob - there were many lessons. For one, not backing down from a scummy slot because they have a good claim. Ex: Turin

 

But you're right - we can discuss this post game.

[Zander?]

Zander your logic isn't flawed if you want to allow lynching likely villagers over obvious wolves - but if this is the only way to get you guys to see Heart for the wolf she is then a compromise can be made. Still don't like it but I don't know if I'm bringing you guys to my side on this and thankfully we have wiggle room.

 

im set in my vote.  but humor me....what happens if Heart flips town?  we lose doc and cop.  you see why im going this way. Neither one of us can be 100% sure on our reads.  my way is the safe way and the best play for town.

[Aiel Heart]

 

Four people left to go through notes for

What notes do you really need to go over? Basically everyone has claimed at this point. Who do you think is lying and why?

 

To see consistencies and tendencies over time, and see everything through the lens of the information we have now. We can't just look at the claims without the context of the rest of their play; that's what's making people go so nuts right now

[Andrej]

 

Zander your logic isn't flawed if you want to allow lynching likely villagers over obvious wolves - but if this is the only way to get you guys to see Heart for the wolf she is then a compromise can be made. Still don't like it but I don't know if I'm bringing you guys to my side on this and thankfully we have wiggle room.

 

im set in my vote.  but humor me....what happens if Heart flips town?  we lose doc and cop.  you see why im going this way. Neither one of us can be 100% sure on our reads.  my way is the safe way and the best play for town.

 

She won't, but yeah, you're right in this hypothetical sense. Like I said - I've been discussing with Wombat a bit before he left and we agreed that if you guys aren't going to help us lynch Heart then we'd make this compromise for the benefit of the town.

[Andrej]

 

 

Four people left to go through notes for

What notes do you really need to go over? Basically everyone has claimed at this point. Who do you think is lying and why?

 

To see consistencies and tendencies over time, and see everything through the lens of the information we have now. We can't just look at the claims without the context of the rest of their play; that's what's making people go so nuts right now

 

Generic answer is generic.

 

I don't want to see big WOTs, you bury info in those things.

 

Play in the moment. Give me your impressions.

[Aiel Heart]

I will play the way I play. Deal with it. 

[Andrej]

Thumbs up.

[Aiel Heart]

Sili (claim: R2-D2, Mason with Yates, C-3PO)[/size]

—Claimed vanilla town #5, which I took as a possibly serious joke and filed away for the future
—Page 92-93 seemed on the defensive a little more than usual 
—#804 early town list (eldrick, dice, salami, Talya, Zander, seph, shad)—really only comfortable clearing Eldrick dice and Csarmi (no reasons given for anyone)
—#1975 says he doesn’t care about Leelou but Verb says she’s probably town
#2129 End of Day 1—Leelou (GF) lynched <—also when Sili and Yates supposedly found each other
—#2135 wolves probably among Yates, Wombat, Verbal, Clov, Talya, Sooh and Zander; now sees Shad, Seph, Durin and me as clear; sees NotBob as ok, dice and Csarmi are interesting and Eldrick seems villagish+#2145 says that his reads aren’t really worth much anyhow because he was 50 pages behind
—#2209 Now is looking at me and Sooh because of Leelou (contradicts last post’s view of me, but is consistent with Sooh)
—#2395 explaining some reads. Wombo/Zander town; Verbal and Clov are middling; Yates, Talya and Sooh are scummy.
—I noted that on page 144 he seemed to be dodging a bit, and then at #2906 gave thoughts on Sooh after some prodding
#2646 End of Night 1—Clov (VT) and Durin (unknown) killed
—#2923 says his reads were a lot like Leelou’s except Yates (dark green town on Leelou’s), Verbal (light green town on Leelou’s) and Sooh (light green town on Leelou’s) and also says it’s poetic given their characters
—Gradually started zooming in on Sooh, liked Csarmi and dice in various posts
—#3230 says “two down, three to go” and four mafia was the generally accepted thought at the time
—#3235 comes in again only to argue why he should not be orange
~Apparently I was taking way less carful notes or just didn’t notice as much by him after this point~
#3811 End of Day 2—Therbal (RB) lynched
#4298 End of Night 2—Shad (VT) died, Seph (Phoenix) died first time
#5179 End of Day 3—Sooh (Janitor) lynched
#5372 End of Night 3—Alanna (Cop) died
—early 280s (forgot to note the exact post) claimed Masons with Yates. In #5705 he said they were masoned N1

 
Questioning him more now. 
Recap: I’ve felt most of the game like he wasn’t been fully present, but had him leaning town as I had no major reason to dislike him and other people were giving me more reasons. Had him as slightly better in the light of the dead on page 229 (mixed reads here too).
Currently: He’s still one of the players I am less confident about. 
And I agree with the other observations that it is odd to put your partner in your scum reads, but I’m setting that aside for the moment.  
 
NotBob (Claim: Mace Windu, Vig)

—#2004 popped in right after Leelou’s hammer hit, later said he had seen no reason to post as he wasn’t read up and wasn’t going to vote either way. 
#2129 End of Day 1—Leelou (GF) lynched
#2646 End of Night 1—Clov (VT) and Durin (unknown) killed<—admitted to killing Clov
—#3047 didn’t like Sili, Csarmi, Therbal or Wombo
—Lots of pop ins, ladeda… A few good questions or points thrown in
—#3552 wouldn’t lynch Seph or Zander+3569 would vig Sili+3570 or Csarmi
#3811 End of Day 2—Therbal (RB) lynched
—#3883 says he is vigging Sili, Csarmi or Dice N2—later says he didn’t because all three started feeling better to him when the time came
#4298 End of Night 2—Shad (VT) died, Seph (Phoenix) died first time<—said he holstered
—The exchange between him and Yates at #4336 stuck out to me, though I’m still missing what exactly is going on there. Someone explain?
—#4569 says that he shot Clov because Clov questioned his credibility (had been between Clov and Sili because both of them were options to have helped Leelou)
#5179 End of Day 3—Sooh (Janitor) lynched
#5372 End of Night 3—Alanna (Cop) died<— said he holstered
—#5454 willing to lynch Heart, Eldrick, Wombo
—#6336 claimed Mace Windu

Alright, so if he’s telling the truth, there are three people with the power to kill, as there was a night when he holstered and then we still had two kills. Will have to analyze how likely this seems.
It is still likely he’s either Town or the SK, not mafia. 
 
Zander (Claim: Lando Calrissian, was VT became Back Up Cop)

—#516 reads list; Town Sili, Eldrick, Alanna and Shad; Slight town Durin and Yates, Null Therbal and Wombo; Wolf seph; rest need to work on
—#917 reads list; town Sili, Eldrick, Alanna and Shad; Slight Town Sooh, Durin, Yates, Dice, Notbob and Therbal; Null Talya and Wombo; Slight Wolf Leelou and Csarmi; Wolf Seph; needed more from me and Mawth/Clov
—#1762 voted Leelou, and in my notes I said it seemed kind of out of nowhere to them
#2129 End of Day 1—Leelou (GF) lynched
—#2296 Sili all over plays Talya not looking good, considers himself, Shad and Alanna cleared+Durin#2299
#2646 End of Night 1—Clov (VT) and Durin (unknown) killed
—A lot of other thoughts, none of which particularly stick out as particularly odd at the moment. Some were right, some were wrong, all seem somewhat reasonable.
—#3538 top three scum are Therbal, seph and Csarmi
#3811 End of Day 2—Therbal (RB) lynched
—#3954 wolves in these groups: dice/Sooh, wombo/Yates+#3956 me/csarmi
#4298 End of Night 2—Shad (VT) died, Seph (Phoenix) died first time
—In #4900s did not like Eldrick
#5179 End of Day 3—Sooh (Janitor) lynched
#5372 End of Night 3—Alanna (Cop) died
—#5484 thoughts; think Yates/Wombo is the best way to go
—By the #5500s he was set on Yates and almost tunneling on him. 
—#5677 was the one to note that there was someone else watching Alanna’s death

Like his casing, like how he’s reacted to the attention he did get, considered clear by many, and that last note supports his claim IMO. 
 
Eldrick (Claim: Luke Skywalker, Vanilla Town)

—Liked a lot of his early thoughts 
#2129 End of Day 1—Leelou (GF) lynched
—#2265 says that Leelou voting me doesn’t clear me which I am more than ok with
—didn’t like Aj or dice and pushed me for a bit afterwards 
#2646 End of Night 1—Clov (VT) and Durin (unknown) killed
—#2873 leelou’s reads x last VC; probably scum in her scum list of me, Durin, Wombocombo and seph
#3811 End of Day 2—Therbal (RB) lynched
—#4027 still feels funny about me and Zander is trending down, can’t read Sooh+#4029 or not bob+#4031 Wombo null possible wolf
#4298 End of Night 2—Shad (VT) died, Seph (Phoenix) died first time
—#4774 thinks the scum is among me, Wombo and Yates
—#4789 Not Lynching Laine, Csarmi, Sili or Yates; Unsure about Notbob, Zander, Talya, dice or me; Willing to Lynch Wombo or Sooh. Thinks NotBob is not scum, possible SK. More details in post
—#4839 the wanting to bring back Durin post that got so much attention
—#4849 wanted it noted that he started Sooh’s bus but didn’t stay on
—#4943 claimed Luke Skywalker
#5179 End of Day 3—Sooh (Janitor) lynched
#5372 End of Night 3—Alanna (Cop) died

I can see why people have had their suspicions of him. He’s honestly feeling more town to me at this point, but there have been a few interesting wordings but they could just be derptown moments not slips. 
 
Talya (Claim: Yoda, town stump)

—#186 didn’t like Aj’s “tunnelling” on Seph
—#789 town leans were Csarmi, Alanna, and NotBob. Null on me, Sooh(slight town), and Durin. Had a wolf read on Wombo
—looked at Zander and Aj at various points
—#1489 didn’t like wombo
—#1514 Talya reads list (Town: Alanna, dice, Csarmi, Sili—Slight Town Durin, Shad, Seph and Notbob—Mixed: Leelou, Eldrick, Maw and me—Wolf: Zander and Wombocombo)
—#1579 doesn’t see why anyone has anything on leelou, top reads are Zander and Sooh
#2129 End of Day 1—Leelou (GF) lynched
—#2297 Talya pop-in; considers me and Laine more town, doesn’t see Sooh as cleared, and likes the Womby vote that others don’t
—#2347 the post about Yates—says he hasn’t done much hunting this game
#2646 End of Night 1—Clov (VT) and Durin (unknown) killed
—#2773 gave thoughts, didn’t like Yates and also wasn’t very fond of Alanna
—3000s gave thoughts and commentated sometimes
#3811 End of Day 2—Therbal (RB) lynched
—#4266 town alanna, seph, Zander, Shad and Notbob; middle Eldrick, Sili and me, scum lean Wombo, Yates and Dice, Definite scum Sooh and had Csarmi as a town or 3rd party
#4298 End of Night 2—Shad (VT) died, Seph (Phoenix) died first time
#5179 End of Day 3—Sooh (Janitor) lynched
#5372 End of Night 3—Alanna (Cop) died
—Started looking at me and Sooh more and more, and don’t have anything by her recently

Something has felt weird about her this whole game and I can’t put my finger on it. I feel like there’s been a lot of times when she’s missed something that was just discussed or whatnot, and some of her readings have changed in strange ways (Alanna dropped a ton and then went back up)
 
Yates (Claim: C-3PO, Masons with Sili, R2-D2)

—Didn’t like some Seph early play, didn’t like Shad or Eldrick earlier on, told Csarmi to talk about more than his role. 
—#1358 Yates case on Durin (Darthe responds #1366)
#2129 End of Day 1—Leelou (GF) lynched
#2646 End of Night 1—Clov (VT) and Durin (unknown) killed
—#3165 indignant that he is on the menu (Aj calls it fake bravado) and more back and forth and back and forth between Aj and Yates
—#3249 analyzing leelou’s list; based on his reckoning, Dice, Sili, Laine, Yates, Talya and Eldrick are town; Sooh, NotBob, Therbal and Zander are people to look at, and there is probably a scum among me, Wombocombo, Durin and Seph
#3811 End of Day 2—Therbal (RB) lynched
—#4289 thoughts post not sure there’s a scum among him, me and Sooh, but could be good to peek them; has a list to peek, a bit of defense, thoughts about what mafia should have done with claiming
#4298 End of Night 2—Shad (VT) died, Seph (Phoenix) died first time
—#4658 notes that people are seeing scum in Yates/Wombo and in AH/Wombo so let’s lynch womb
—#4679 likes me and Wombo for wolf; Alanna, Eldrick and Talya as potential deepwolf, feels like pressure on Sooh, Csarmi and dice is misplaced, (says he knows dice’s role?) and says Sili has fooled him before
—later #4000s was looking at Sooh more and more
#5179 End of Day 3—Sooh (Janitor) lynched
#5372 End of Night 3—Alanna (Cop) died
—#5458 scum options Heart, Eldrick, and maybe wombo

Has been getting a lot of pressure throughout the game, most of the interaction I’ve noticed has been with Aj. Don’t see him mentioning Sili a great deal. Hasn’t been as into this game as I normally seen, but this has been improving. 

 
Wombo (Claim: Han Solo, Town Commuter)

—Aj page 3 going to ride Seph hard which a lot of people didn’t like
—Wombat#111-112 Turin and Seph wolf
—#389 Eldrick clears self page 9 and Zander gets town read on Alanna and he likes them both
—#1582 doesn’t see why anyone would have anything on leelou
—#1633 would be ok with voting Wombocombo
—#1800s likes Csarmi for meta reasons, has sili as strong town
—#1873 things he didn’t like about Leelou
#2129 End of Day 1—Leelou (GF) lynched
—Aj #2199 based on early Leelou quote, thinks that Csarmi, me, Sooh and Seph are fairly clear, and note the nulls (Laine, sort of Shad and Eldrick)
—#2200 thinks that Sili, Laine and Zander all look townie, and Csarmi and Dice also look good+shad #2201
—#2211 next Aj megapost; liked Sooh
—#2263 part 4 + reads list; not so fond of Talya’s handling of Zander
—#2423 next post; agreeing and disagreeing with some things, is ok with my post, analyzes both of Leelou’s lists
#2646 End of Night 1—Clov (VT) and Durin (unknown) killed
#3811 End of Day 2—Therbal (RB) lynched
—#4011 Wombo leaning town on Sooh (not heavily)
—#4074 Aj bottom four Talya, me, Yates and Sooh
#4298 End of Night 2—Shad (VT) died, Seph (Phoenix) died first time
—#4570 Sooh and Yates both going after people with “more town equity” (Sooh going after Csarmi and Yates going after me)
—#4701 points out that Yates doesn’t think Sooh is wolf 
—#4711 doesn't like that Eldrick still wants to vote Sooh though he’s voting Wombo
—#4718 reads list blue wombo and seph, green Laine Csarmi and dice, light green NotBob Zander Sili and Eldrick, yellow me and Talya, orange yates, red Sooh
#5179 End of Day 3—Sooh (Janitor) lynched
—#5253 reads list me and Yates are scum
#5372 End of Night 3—Alanna (Cop) died
—#5916 reasons everyone else are clear
—And has been tunneling me since

I find it interesting that I started off being considered town (even “basically clear”) at one point, and then have been inexplicably dropping since. Other reads have slid a lot as well. 
Question: you’ve liked me more than Yates at various points throughout the game. Just so I can be certain of where you stand, what has changed there?

 
Csarmi (Claim: Jar Jar Binks, Hated)

—#19 claimed
—pushed Darthe early on, really rode his claim a lot
—#1557 says Sooh is villager after Eldrick votes her
#2129 End of Day 1—Leelou (GF) lynched
#2646 End of Night 1—Clov (VT) and Durin (unknown) killed
—#2979 pops in, doesn’t say much, really doesn’t want us to lynch Sooh
—#2994 says to avoid S; no lynching Sili, Shad or Seph either
—#3006 feeling very good about Sooh and Sili, probably Shad and Seph too
—#3406 not willing to lynch Sili, Sooh, Seph, Shad (S’s again…), Laine, Aj and Dice
—#3439 votes Zander+reasoning #3440
#3811 End of Day 2—Therbal (RB) lynched
—#4213 thinks Alanna’s scum list (himself, Sooh and Dice) is 0/3
#4298 End of Night 2—Shad (VT) died, Seph (Phoenix) died first time
—#4648 town leans is Sili, Laine, Sooh, Zander, Yates, Dice, Wombo; never lynching Laine, Dice and Zander
—#4741 Sooh back to light green
#5179 End of Day 3—Sooh (Janitor) lynched
#5372 End of Night 3—Alanna (Cop) died
—don’t remember anything specific about today, but he’s been seeming a little more town to me.
 

 Been having questionable play for a lot of the game, but many others consider him clear and he's been trending up for me lately. 
 
Not Lynching:
Zander
Dice
Seph
 
Leaning town on:
NotBob
Eldrick
Sili
Yates
 
Lowest hanging:
Talya 
Wombo
 
 
 
I feel like me, Wombo and Yates have been a repeating pattern throughout the game, and I think that means something. I’m town (I'd rather not die to prove it because I'm the doc), and between Yates and Wombo think Wombo is more likely to be scummy. 
Between Sili and Yates, I feel like Yates would give us more information on other people as well, so if we’re going to clear the masons, I’d rather go that route I think. 

 

Voting Preference:

Wombo

Yates or Talya

Rest of my leaning list
 
 
Will wait for thoughts from more people before placing a vote, and about to leave to go spend time with extended family.