House of Cards

[Sooh]

So basically what you're saying is that wombat at Clov can't be read?... seems awfully simplified, but ok...

[Andrej]

 

I probably lied about that whole "I'll let you say and think what you want" thing

 

I can't stop the SNARK even if I try 

 

Double spoilers next time, imo.

[Cory Caboose]

So basically what you're saying is that wombat at Clov can't be read?... seems awfully simplified, but ok...

 

I am saying they are both players who keep their ranges extremely consistent and are very difficult to read accurately on d1

 

Just how it is

[WWWwombat]

 

Verbal do you think pocketing is a wolf tell for me

 

I think it is instinctual for any wolf to do, yes.  I've only played a few games with you, so I can't really say for sure what constitutes a wolf tell versus a villager tell for you......but I do think there are some universal tells that even experienced wolves make without realizing it.  I consider pocketing to be one of those things.

 

 

Pocketing is probably the biggest thing Cory does in any mafia game he ever plays.

[Cory Caboose]

For AJ's eyes only!!!

 

 

If you aren't AJ, why are you clicking this?

 

SERIOUSLY, ONLY AJ:

 

 

you're a doofus.

 

 

 

 

 

 

[Cory Caboose]

 

Winning is probably the biggest thing Cory does in any mafia game he ever plays.

 

 

Pocketing is a close second, though

[WWWwombat]

 

 

Verbal do you think pocketing is a wolf tell for me

 

I think it is instinctual for any wolf to do, yes.  I've only played a few games with you, so I can't really say for sure what constitutes a wolf tell versus a villager tell for you......but I do think there are some universal tells that even experienced wolves make without realizing it.  I consider pocketing to be one of those things.

 

Like I'm reading this exactly as "long, fluffy complicated response to a simple question" and I don't find it genuine

 

Verbal has enough meta with me to give a better answer above how I play instead of a contrived answer how people play universally

 

That's my take, at least

 

 

Me too, but I never see anything Verb ever does as genuine so =S

[WWWwombat]

Personally I think the wolves may be found in the people giving me an early town read for my posting so far, or those deliberately ignoring me. Think about this logically guys. If I was on a scum team for this particular game, would I not be seer hunting and other wise more interested in clearing myself rather than basically throwing myself under the bus? It's not even taking one for the team in this case, because that should come much later IMO. I was trying to stir things up yesterday to start the game, and I'm still trying to now. You either think I am a really really poor wolf player, and that is rather insulting actually... or you are just locked on me for strange behavior and not many other places to aim at the moment. 

 

I'm going to go back and look at those who have defended me, but one that really stood out was Bewbs team, when Nyn was clearly opposed, then Hallia cleared me and then they both retracted. I think that was pretty strange behavior. It's like Hallia was trying to use TMI to defend me so they would look better after my flip or something. 

 

After conferring with my other half, I will rescind my opinion on Sooh.  I now understand more that she isn't a noobie to be given the benefit of the doubt, or to be defended.

 

This post is cute.

 

 

Wombat also soft-defended me by not mentioning me at all. Looks like he doesn't want to get on a townie lynch. idk about him though. He might just be seeing things differently. 

 

Cass does also have a defense of me which is noteworthy. She did show some progression in her read though.

 

I note Verbal hasn't mentioned anything yet. 

 

If I do get lynched today, which it looks very much like I will be, at least I want Town to get as many reads out of my demise as possible. 

 

Btw... scum team... you may want to aim elsewhere if you want to hit a seer... or maybe you should aim exactly here.. what do I know... 

 

 

Cory? I didn't see a response... 

 

 

[v]Sooh[/v]

 

Not buying it

Not buying what exactly?

 

 

 

I'm glad at least Kaylee is Town.

 

I hate this post.  Reads like full-on anti-spew.

[WWWwombat]

I'll be lock clearing myself by lynching a wolf today, so you can scrap the tinfoil in advance if you're feeling smart

 

Guess I'll take the N1 bullet this time.

[WWWwombat]

 

 

I'll be lock clearing myself by lynching a wolf today, so you can scrap the tinfoil in advance if you're feeling smart

 

I hope so.

 

And I mean that.

 

Maybe I'm projecting a bit here, but I think the way you've handled your detractors is a bit wolfy. Verb/Clov specifically.

 

 

How so?

[WWWwombat]

Fwiw I get what Clov would pursue that particular line irt to Cass as a villager

 

I just think he's also capable of doing it as a wolf

 

But I wouldn't describe it as inane - maybe foolhardy but not inane

 

Well I would >:(

[WWWwombat]

 

Can you bring up some Wombat posts that made you feel that way from before his posts now?

 

I'd like to see this as well - I'm getting the opposite read from Wombat.  I have him as slight wolf lean.

 

 

I don't like you that way, man.

 

 

 

**snip**

 

2 soulreads seems kind of a lot for a newish player at this stage.  Do you mean gut read?

 

Yes... probably... lol.. I guess I never reflected on the difference. 

 

 

Ok.

[Cory Caboose]

There's a funny little squaredance going on between me, Verbal, Wombat and Sooh

 

It's really amusing

[WWWwombat]

Sooh have you ever played with Wombat before?

 

He's a very experienced player who's played for a long time and has no trouble with tone or anything like that and is capable of being a pushy wolf

 

IE nothing in there in me says "Wombat is a villager"

 

 

Wombat is a villager.

 

Glad we could clear that up.

[WWWwombat]

For AJ's eyes only!!!

 

 

If you aren't AJ, why are you clicking this?

 

SERIOUSLY, ONLY AJ:

 

 

you're a doofus.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Best way to hide something is to put it in a spoiler inside a colored quote in a wall of text imo.

[WWWwombat]

 

 

Winning is probably the biggest thing Cory does in any mafia game he ever plays.

 

 

Pocketing is a close second, though

 

 

Bragging 3rd obv.

[Cory Caboose]

 

Bragging 3rd obv.

 

 

It used the be 1st, I've come a long way

[Sooh]

I'll be out now until after my exam tomorrow. If anyone cares enough, cross your fingers for me at 7am EST

[WWWwombat]

[v]Tress[/v]

[Cory Caboose]

I care :(

 

 

Sooh have you ever played with Wombat before?

He's a very experienced player who's played for a long time and has no trouble with tone or anything like that and is capable of being a pushy wolf

 

IE nothing in there in me says "Wombat is a villager"

 

 

Wombat is a villager.

 

Glad we could clear that up.

 

 

Okay you've got me pocketed for the day

 

Congratulations

[Andrej]

How so?

 

 

These are a few examples. I get the impression that he's more so setting up a 1v1 situation with people that voice suspicion over him instead of looking at things objectively. Inciting a fight is a way to put it, I guess.

 

 

There are some people I can give ~mild to ~above mild villager leans if they can believably suspect me on d1 because in my experience wolves do it very rarely, they tend to clear me and just hope i don't spotlight on them before they can get rid of me in whatever fashion

 

Clov is a tricky player, so he does not get this benefit of the doubt

 

If he wants war, he'll get war. He doesn't get a competence pass if he isn't being competent.

 

You have played plenty of games with me at this point so not seeing that as genuine

 

Even some games where I didn't even know you were you

 

I think you're better and more apt than this as a villager, you have been really on-point as a villager the last handful of games I've watched you (Warehouse 13 comes to mind)

 

Consider yourself on watch

 

That's a pretty interesting xpost

I'm going to give you space to do your thing, Verbal, so just be an obvious villager and we'll have no problems

 

Verbal has shown the ability to be a competent and follow-able villager in previous games so I'll shut up about it for now

 

If he doesn't improve in my head don't expect me to be quiet about it closer to EOD, but I'm fine with giving him some space and letting him approach the game as he pleases

 

That's pretty much the last thing I have to say about the matter

[Andrej]

For AJ's eyes only!!!

 

 

If you aren't AJ, why are you clicking this?

 

SERIOUSLY, ONLY AJ:

 

 

you're a doofus.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

We'll laugh about it and draw pictures together post game if I'm wrong.

[WWWwombat]

I care :(

 

 

Sooh have you ever played with Wombat before?

 

He's a very experienced player who's played for a long time and has no trouble with tone or anything like that and is capable of being a pushy wolf

 

IE nothing in there in me says "Wombat is a villager"

 

 

Wombat is a villager.

 

Glad we could clear that up.

 

 

Okay you've got me pocketed for the day

 

Congratulations

 

You trying to reverse pocket me?

[Cory Caboose]

All that looks like to me is that I'm trying to read people

 

If that's why I say as a wolf what do you think I would say differently as a villager?

I think I've been very objective in both cases, or as objective as I can be when someone makes a post that doesn't ring genuine to me

 

If you think I'm prepping some diabolic thunderdome, I don't know what to tell you, I don't plan on ever being a wagon this game so that thought makes zero sense to me

[Cory Caboose]

We'll laugh about it and draw pictures together post game if I'm wrong.

 

I won't be laughing about it

 

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