A Tale of Middle Earth: Game OVER

[Niniel]

I started with Laine´s iso but I won´t be able to finish it. I´ll do it tomorrow. Nex in line is Sooh.

 

From memory I have Sili, EP, Leelou and Talya as town. Suspicious of Hally, Verb, Dice and Pizza. I don´t like Alot´s vote on Leelou either. Those reads can change when I re-read more. 

[Thane Vakarian]

my head hurts after reading this game.... second major catch up of the day...

 

These people will have more attention than others:

 

Leelou, Sili, Alannalynn, Seph, Eldrick.

 

I'm less worried about all the others, but not 100%convinced anybody is town so far (well, besides me)

 

mind you: after reading the game, these are the ones i don't feel too good about. It's more gut than anything, not going to look for quotes on 84 pages.

[Eldrick4221]

I don't know what's going on with my internet. I can get on Skype, but my browser isn't working. I can't iso on my phone, and I'm not going to continue my reread on it either. I will follow along with what's posted from here on, and hopefully that will be good enough.

[Eldrick4221]

my head hurts after reading this game.... second major catch up of the day...

 

These people will have more attention than others:

 

Leelou, Sili, Alannalynn, Seph, Eldrick.

 

I'm less worried about all the others, but not 100%convinced anybody is town so far (well, besides me)

 

mind you: after reading the game, these are the ones i don't feel too good about. It's more gut than anything, not going to look for quotes on 84 pages.

Do you have reasons for your list?

[Eldrick4221]

Oh. You said it was mostly gut. I somehow missed that

[Thane Vakarian]

yeah, i spent hours of my free day catching up instead of spending time with the misses and kids, and the misses is quite unhappy about that. Might be back later today, or not.

[Verbal32]

Anyone have a good grasp of verbal here?

 

GIGGITY

 

 

 

 

verbal played the w/w card on yates and aj. yes, aj's change of heart was sudden, but other than that i don't see it.

 

-going to continue my catch up then say more-

 

Yes, I'm still considering that I was wrong (obv) on Yates, but not on AJ.  He's posting today appears townie, so I'd say I disagree with Pizza's assessment of AJ's recent play.  I feel he's been going from scum lean to town lean.  I'm cool with letting that play out further.

 

 

 

 

-No, instead it's hallia that's scummy for hopping on at the end because [reasons]. Sorry, it's just in addition to thinking you linked leelou and verbal because verbal is scum and leelou isn't, I don't see why a wolf needs to hop on at the end of a villager wagon.

 

I'm not sure what you're saying here.....

[Verbal32]

@Leelou-

 

You're painting that picture very wrong.  I didn't unvote Yates until after he cleared up his mistake for exactly that reason - I was prepared to lynch him through his claim because of that mistake.  I had pointed it out several times, and he just bulldozed past it until I finally all-caps'd it and he replied.

 

I believed his reply was sincere, and I unvoted for the reason I gave (not lynching a non-cc'd town PR).  I would have ignored that normal logic had Yates maintained his previous stance on seph/zander.  I was prepared to take the brunt of the fallback if we actually mislynched a vig.  But when I made my decision that I believed him, I unvoted.  I am surprised you didn't as well, seeing as how you don't normally push through on a lynch like that.

[Verbal32]

If you look at my POV as I've explained, it should make sense that I'd push you a little as a result.  You got very defensive and snippy with me as soon as I started, which made me push more.

 

This isn't going to be one of those games I can just "tell" what alignment you are, because it is way too easy to be scum in this game if there are multiple scum teams.  Just scumhunt for the other team(s) and you look pro-town.  Too easy.  Finding scum here will be harder than normal as a result.

 

 

 

Bottom line:  Yates being inconsistent in his "lock scum" read is not the issue (read this Sili - it should help you see my thought process) --- it is the fact that he wouldn't address it while being pressed on it from multiple posts of mine (and others).  When he finally replied, had it been a defense of his stance, I would have pushed the lynched myself.  Instead, he admitted the mistake, which rang sincere to me, and I unvoted.  Simple as that.

 

Anybody calling that sequence of events scummy on my part is welcome to push me on it.  I ain't scurred.

[Leelou]

Okay, Verb. Let me ask you, what do you think of Alot's vote on me? I personally think it stinks. 

[Alot]

Yes Verbal, do tell

[Verbal32]

Okay, Verb. Let me ask you, what do you think of Alot's vote on me? I personally think it stinks.

It is a minor detail, but the Devil is in the details, right?

 

I don't think it reveals anything about Alot, though. I can see that detail being pushed by town or scum. Actually, I'm kinda happy somebody else is pushing you as well. Not having a strong feeling either way on you is going to bug me all game, so the more attention the merrier!

[Leelou]

 

Okay, Verb. Let me ask you, what do you think of Alot's vote on me? I personally think it stinks.

It is a minor detail, but the Devil is in the details, right?

 

I don't think it reveals anything about Alot, though. I can see that detail being pushed by town or scum. Actually, I'm kinda happy somebody else is pushing you as well. Not having a strong feeling either way on you is going to bug me all game, so the more attention the merrier!

 

 

Okay, how do you explain Cass's typical play style in games? 

[Verbal32]

I have never given thought to it, and now I'm stuck not knowing how to answer.

[Verbal32]

She asks a ton of questions, but only follows up on some of them.  Appears more effective engaging in real-time than playing in catchup mode.  Mixes in tone reading and logical analysis.

 

 

 

.....that's the best I've got.

[Verbal32]

Is your next question going to be whether I feel she's playing this way?  If so, the answer is yes.  But that doesn't tell me what her alignment is.  I have not played with Cass enough to identify any type of meta tell with her.  If she makes a slip and I notice it, I'll pounce.  If not, then I'll likely townread her.

 

Unlike you, I don't often continue to follow games once I'm dead, so I can't say I've read a lot of her (as I'm often dead in the first few phases).

[Leelou]

I'll admit, some of my scummy reads might just be me not being familiar with new players to DM, and there are quite a few of them this game. 

 

Town

Eternal Phoenix - claimed mason partner died

TinaHel - she's had her healthy suspicions with Verbal, I've liked her postings so far. She's not hiding and seems to be trying to solve the game

Sili - town vibes from his posting

Eldrick - actually posting differently from before, doesn't seem like he has too much knowledge

Hally - Hallia's posting and voting seems more in her town range, her voting for someone due to their attitude falls in her town range

Dice - Typically not hiding, seems to be genuinely trying to get a feel from Cass

Verbal - still typically getting a townie vibe from him, slightly wavering 

Talya - she hasn't really said anything to make me worry too much. Her read on Sili doesn't bother me that we don't agree. He's hard to read when you first start playing with him. The twinsie thing was annoying, but eh

Andrej - I keep going up and down with him, he's one I typically have a hard time reading and slot him into town

 

Null 

Cass/Monstr - Batassery - if this was just Monstr, I'd have them in town. I either need Monstr to make me feel more comfortable with Cass or judge them with a few of my other town reads

John Snow Yates 2.0 - Not a bad intro, I want to see how he progresses before moving him one way or the other yet

Alanna Aiel Heart - awaiting her skittle puke

Thane - I'm waiting for him to expound upon his reads before sorting him

Taborline - no content

Pizzaguy - I really need to read his posts in detail - on my agenda for today

 

Scummy

seph - mentored by Kaylee - didn't like his posts from D1, reads list has been pretty lacking. My opinion might change after I see reasons for why he has people where they are in his list

Alot - starts off whining, makes a couple okay posts, questions a few times what was suspicious about me, then latches onto one thing Cass says about me and votes me. This may look like OMGUS, but it's not. 

Sooh - mentored by Corn - her posts seem kinda lackluster, I want an actual reads list from her

Alannalynn - early game caught up in a lot of the small stuff, I haven't really agreed with her pushes, I'll address her posts later (hopefully before EoD)

Krak - a hiding Krak is a scummy Krak. I don't see his "derp" as townish at all. Comfortable voting here


Deceased

22. Yates - Faramir, Town Forensic Investigator Lynched Day One

17. Tress - Tulkas, Town Vanilla Killed Night Two
18. Zander - Elu Thingol, Town Mason Killed Night Two

[Leelou]

[v]Krak[/v]

[Hallia]

Leelou, what's your opinion on the whole issue with Sooh at EoD yesterday?

[Leelou]

Leelou, what's your opinion on the whole issue with Sooh at EoD yesterday?

 

Coincidental until we have evidence. 

[Hallia]

Fair enough. I like your read list, it's pretty close to my own. Aj is higher up for me though.

[Darthe]

Official Vote Count Three:

 

AJ (1/12): Krak

Sooh (1/12): Hally

Talya (1/12): Pizza

Thane (1/12): EP, Eldrick

Hally (1/12): Alannalynn

Krak (1/12): Talya, Leelou

Verb (1/12): Sili

Leelou (1/12): Alot

 

Not Voting (11/21):

Sooh, AH, Dice, Thane, Verb, Taborline, AJ, Seph, Tina, Batassery, Yates

 

With 21 alive it takes 12 to lynch.  Deadline is at 12:00 PM EST on May 15^th, 2015.

[Darthe]

Btw there are 24 hours left in this day phase.  

[Yates]

Krak - a hiding Krak is a scummy Krak.

Is there anything worse than a scummy Krak? I mean seriously...

[Yates]

Btw there are 24 hours left in this day phase.

Fine. Then I guess I'll vote.

 

[v]Sooh[/v]