A Tale of Middle Earth: Game OVER

[Askthepizzaguy]

Did someone unvote Zander? I could have sworn there was more than one vote on Zander.

[Darthe]

Official Vote Count Three:

 

Pizzaguy(1/13): AJ

AJ (1/13): Laine

Talya (1/13): Dice

Verbal (1/13): Tina

EP (1/13): Seph

Sooh (2/14): Hally, Zander

Seph (1/13): EP

Zander (1/13): Sili

 

Not Voting (15/24):

Alot, Alanna, John Snow, Thane, Verbal, Talya, Eldrick, Leelou, Krak, Taborline, Tress, Yates, Batman & Cassowary, Pizzaguy, Sooh

[Eldrick4221]

Did someone unvote Zander? I could have sworn there was more than one vote on Zander.

If there was, I missed it. Sili's vote at the end was the only one I noticed.

[Eldrick4221]

To clarify,

 

I don't care if someone votes someone on the spur of the moment because something feels off.

 

But when asked, they better be ready to communicate what feels off about them, because if they don't it means they don't care who they vote or if their gut means anything.

 

And, to be more clear, not caring is a crime.

I agree with this wholeheartedly.

 

Btw, I won't be on much today. My mom's request for the day was to not be bothered, therefore I am my sister's transportation.

[monstrman]

Hi guys. I'm a villager and i have exactly two reads right Now

 

Sili is probably a villager but I might try getting at him out of spite for voting me every game for no reason.

 

Based on my perception of seph'sseph's villager/wolf games he flips villager here way more often than he flips wolf

 

#hotreads

[Askthepizzaguy]

 

Did someone unvote Zander? I could have sworn there was more than one vote on Zander.

If there was, I missed it. Sili's vote at the end was the only one I noticed.

 

I think I had it in my head that more people had voted Zander because several saw him to be wolfy.

 

I might be unintentionally spewing myself to be Zander's wolf partner, but I am not. This is just a regular brain fart from me.

 

I have a better handle on what's going on when I'm a wolf, I am very careful about reading everything to make sure I do not lose by mistake.

[seph]

yea sili's was the only vote.
 

 

Well I can't sleep, so I might as well eat. Sleeping and eating, my two favorite hobbies.

I am leaning voting for Zander, I have not done so because I see others have voted for him and I do not wish to create a runaway wagon which may harm discussion and relieve pressure on everyone else as well.

If the game is multiball, as I understand the term, that means we have a large number of guilty parties.

The discussion will, invariably, die if there are a large number of guilty parties and almost no reason for them to feel under pressure.

What will happen next is easy smokescreening. It is more pro-village to keep the tally low.

But for the record, Zander is my lynch choice today.

Sooh seems villagery, only because I've spoken to her before the game.

I have not a whole lot to read the rest of you based off of.

If you would interact with me more, it would be helpful. Vote me, say why I'm guilty or not guilty, ask me questions, engage in a joke contest, anything.

 

 

 

This is my first advanced game, so I am pretty clueless besides the town and mafia role.

[Askthepizzaguy]

Hi guys. I'm a villager and i have exactly two reads right Now

 

Sili is probably a villager but I might try getting at him out of spite for voting me every game for no reason.

 

Based on my perception of seph'sseph's villager/wolf games he flips villager here way more often than he flips wolf

 

#hotreads

Tell me more about Sili being a villager. I have played with Sili before, but usually I was a wolf, so.

[Sili Quirrels]

Hi guys. I'm a villager and i have exactly two reads right Now

 

Sili is probably a villager but I might try getting at him out of spite for voting me every game for no reason.

 

Based on my perception of seph'sseph's villager/wolf games he flips villager here way more often than he flips wolf

 

#hotreads

Dude, I am so sorry for lynching you last time on tmf.

 

Like, I tracked ultra, and I knew you were scum before you even subbed in, but still bro, sorry.

 

That said, I have no idea why you feel like I vote you every game for no reason. That is pure nonsense.

 

 

On another note, my vote didn't count, so...

[unvote]

[v]Zander[/v]

[monstrman]

Pizzaguys post about how he doesn't want to create a runaway wagon is probably villagery. I know for me at least I've been in more than one situation where I've felt/done exactly that

 

Pizza I've seen you around in a couple games before but I've never seen you play.

[seph]

 

 

Did someone unvote Zander? I could have sworn there was more than one vote on Zander.

If there was, I missed it. Sili's vote at the end was the only one I noticed.

 

I think I had it in my head that more people had voted Zander because several saw him to be wolfy.

 

I might be unintentionally spewing myself to be Zander's wolf partner, but I am not. This is just a regular brain fart from me.

 

I have a better handle on what's going on when I'm a wolf, I am very careful about reading everything to make sure I do not lose by mistake.

 

I like this post. but I feel as if your holding a delicious pizza, but I don't know what is underneath the cheese. could be marinara could be something else

[Sili Quirrels]

Dingus, if you're talking about meta-votes then I'm going to tell you you're overreacting.

[Sili Quirrels]

 

 

Did someone unvote Zander? I could have sworn there was more than one vote on Zander.

If there was, I missed it. Sili's vote at the end was the only one I noticed.

 

I think I had it in my head that more people had voted Zander because several saw him to be wolfy.

 

I might be unintentionally spewing myself to be Zander's wolf partner, but I am not. This is just a regular brain fart from me.

 

I have a better handle on what's going on when I'm a wolf, I am very careful about reading everything to make sure I do not lose by mistake.

 

You're this confident?

[Gabriel Kross]

EP: You're okay to dislike my banter, but when did I say I was sitting back and letting things happen? I'm pretty sure that was your words when you said you wanted to sit back and wait until people checked in, and I agreed but said it didn't mean we had to just spam until then. We can still gauge reactions and see how people are playing. Maybe I used the wrong wording there with the "same" but in no way was I agreeing to just doing nothing until everyone was present. That would hinder town progress more than a little day one banter.

 

Here:

for the record I'm waiting til everyone actually checks in before I get serious (or the check in deadline ends)

Same but it doesn't me we have to only spam until then.

 

 

 

 

 

I will always buddy tress at the starting of the game regardless of alignment, as you can see most people do.

 

Ep, so are you just going to avoid my question.

 

EP quote  "The rest of my points are valid" Can you tell me what points? the only thing you have said is you think my case is a stretch. and you just took back your only other point...

 

 

 

I was the first player to post so there was only one player in the thread "so then there was one" was the most viable statement. Saying it rubs you the wrong way... very poor attempt to cast suspicion.

 

Also for the record most games with a check in window usually don't start til that is over. If you're going to go after a single individual for something when multiple people are doing it another even admitted they were doing it too, makes you very scummy. So FoS at you, I'll probably be voting you later unless I see something more telling.

 

If that was those posts intended purpose, why are you defending it here. you are trying to use the mod's quote to make it seem ok to take a back seat.

This statement reads to me that you were not planning on doing much of anything for another  30 hours? or whatever the timer was at during this post.

 

nothing was going on so no reads, and nothing to avoid. Maybe I should get you a ladder so you don't pull a muscle with your stretch

 

I had multiple points not just one, but since you're good at ignoring things let me list them all again.

 

The first was that your twisting my check-in post to mean anything other than me checking in was a very hard stretch.

The second was you blatantly ignored all the other people who are just milling around not doing anything, including the other person who admitted to doing so.

Third point (this one is new) You are so focused on me you're ignoring everything else in the game a true town player wouldn't focus so hard on a single individual thing.

 

1: I never twisted your opening post. thanks for coming up with a new point when I called you out on it, as this is the first time you mentioned that. I explained why I didn't like it.

2: I just realized about alanna when you pointed it out, so I was not ignoring anything, it was just brought to my attention.

3: because I say I am tunneling you, does not mean I am ignoring everyone,I have been replying to numerous people besides you.

4: Your the one twisting my words here. I was just verifying my read on you.

I still find you more alarming than alanna as she has 1 post agreeing with you I might add. 

 

here we go again... I hate quoting the same posts over and over because it really gets old

 

1: Incomming quotes where I DID mention this before this.

 

 

 

[unvote]  [v]Eldrick[/v] for spamming

:P

 

It's how I play. I post as I catch up.

 

 

use multi quote. posting as you catch up is bad form because you could end up posting after your own death and therefore break the rules of the game (I did it once)

After reading the thread again the only person I find suspicious is EP

and then there was one.

This post just pings me

 

 

it's the sound one makes in frustration boredom hunger or agreeance

this was in responce to the grunt question.

 

 

I wasn't expecting this game to start so shortly after Heart's did, but ok then. I hope I can keep up with both.

How does it feel to be town?

 

not sure where you're going with this will observe.

 

 

 

for the record I'm waiting til everyone actually checks in before I get serious (or the check in deadline ends)

I don't see the point in this, it seems to me your being unhelpful, and going with the flow. [v] Eternal Phoenix[/v]

I was the first player to post so there was only one player in the thread "so then there was one" was the most viable statement. Saying it rubs you the wrong way... very poor attempt to cast suspicion.

 

Also for the record most games with a check in window usually don't start til that is over. If you're going to go after a single individual for something when multiple people are doing it another even admitted they were doing it too, makes you very scummy. So FoS at you, I'll probably be voting you later unless I see something more telling.

 

would you look at that proof that I didn't just fabricate the point when I was "called out" for only having one remaining point

 

2: Sounds like an excuse to me

 

3: I wasn't even talking about your tunneling comment, every post you've replied to has been in someway related to the back in forth between you and me.

 

4: nope no twisted words from me. But please sir do keep stretching, I feel you might almost be there.

 

 

EP: You're okay to dislike my banter, but when did I say I was sitting back and letting things happen? I'm pretty sure that was your words when you said you wanted to sit back and wait until people checked in, and I agreed but said it didn't mean we had to just spam until then. We can still gauge reactions and see how people are playing. Maybe I used the wrong wording there with the "same" but in no way was I agreeing to just doing nothing until everyone was present. That would hinder town progress more than a little day one banter.

 

Here:

for the record I'm waiting til everyone actually checks in before I get serious (or the check in deadline ends)

Same but it doesn't me we have to only spam until then.

You literally said you agreed with my statement. I never once said I would be spamming so the context of your statement is in 100% agreeance with mine. For the record your name banter counts as spam so of the two of us YOU were the one spamming. Please try not to trip up on your own backpedaling.

 

 

 

Official Vote Count Three:

 

Pizzaguy(1/13): AJ

AJ (1/13): Laine

Talya (1/13): Dice

Verbal (1/13): Tina

EP (1/13): Seph

Sooh (2/14): Hally, Zander

Laine (1/13): Sili

Zander (1/13): EP

 

Not Voting (15/24):

Alot, Alanna, John Snow, Thane, Verbal, Talya, Eldrick, Leelou, Krak, Taborline, Tress, Yates, Batman & Cassowary, Pizzaguy, Sooh

 

Check again, I'm voting Seph not Zander

[Gabriel Kross]

hmmm weird double quote in there

[Yates]

This is my first advanced game, so I am pretty clueless besides the town and mafia role.

Multiball means there will be more than 1 scum team. And they have to beat each other as well as Town.

If the game is multiball, as I understand the term, that means we have a large number of guilty parties.

 

The discussion will, invariably, die if there are a large number of guilty parties and almost no reason for them to feel under pressure.

We may have 1 more guilty party than you would normally find in a game this size BUT that also means each scum team will be smaller in size. So the smaller scum teams make finding scum mates much more difficult than in a normal game PLUS both scum teams have to actually scum hunt to find the other team which, in turn, forces them to post more villagery.

 

Multiball could also mean this is a recruiting game. So you need to be on the look out for interactions that do a 180. That could be a cop clear or that could be a recruit that got recruited. It's a mess and typically doesn't end well for the Town.

[monstrman]

Sorry my phone died.

 

Pizza my view of sili's meta is kind of hard to put into words. I mean most notably I think he has a volume tell (or did when last I played him) but I have a pretty good track record of correctly reading him as a villager. I think he's wolfed against me twice and fooled me once but it was also with tom who is a jerkface. I even think i suspected you at first that game sili then tom talked me out of it.

 

The other game was at pog and I think you died quick sili, but I don't remember.

 

I think sili you'd have a better handle of how well I read you than I do tbh.

 

Othe than that sili is a great mislynch target for wolves when he's a villager often times not necessarily due entirely to himself but I don't think he words himself properly when he's trying to talk himself out of suspicion all the time.

 

I guess it factors in a little bit to me constantly reading him villager but sometimes you gotta go with your gut In this game of mafia wolf and my gut is telling me silI is probably a villager

 

Dingus, if you're talking about meta-votes then I'm going to tell you you're overreacting.

I was like 95% joking lol

[Yates]

Can you guys trim your quotes to the pertinent bits please and thanks? I read that whole post, EP, and have no idea what you are trying to tell me.

[Gabriel Kross]

so is a multiball like a multipass? Yes I had to go there...

[Gabriel Kross]

Can you guys trim your quotes to the pertinent bits please and thanks? I read that whole post, EP, and have no idea what you are trying to tell me.

for the most parft I have numbered the bits I responded to

[seph]

I am done quoting Ep. 
In bold you call my feeling a stretch, and later say I am twisting you words. I wasn't I was verifying my read to you, and others.

you say I am ignoring people who aren't doing anything. They are not making posts that read as if they "just want to flow along".

this thunderdoming has gotten to a point of repetitiveness, and makes it difficult to read others.
 

[Yates]

@Pizza and Alot - DM typically allows the scum to chat during the day and the Town to chat at night unless otherwise stated in the rules. So, unfettered chat for both parties. Keep this in mind as it was a culture shock for me. Now you know, too, if you didn't know already???

[monstrman]

As an aside regardless of whether you're a wolf or a villager trying to thunderdome is usually bad for the village

 

Village points to seph and I'll give a shiny villager coin to anyone who can tell me why

[Yates]

Oh Seph...

 

*tsk tsk tsk*

this thunderdoming has gotten to a point of repetitiveness, and makes it difficult to read others.

You are pretty much a lock wolf at this point. That's one of those statements that scum always thinks sounds Towny but pretty much never comes from Town...

[Yates]

Village points to seph and I'll give a shiny villager coin to anyone who can tell me why