A Tale of Middle Earth: Game OVER

[Talya]

I haven't seen it on here before, I have to admit, so I can't say one way or another.

 

As for who thought that WK vote was "x2" I didn't read it at that, but from one who has to read slowly otherwise I do and have read the wrong things on here, I don't think that is a tell either way

[Andrej]

Talya can you rephrase that?

[Hallia]

I read in my mobile, and have missed things before and likely will again.

[Andrej]

Yeah, I never read that post and think WK is hinting at a double voting ability.

 

Like never. Way too huge of a coincidence for me to buy into at this point, especially with the common practice that the sub-ins are referred to as "2" or ".2" or whatever. Even with his name ending in X I still don't buy it. It was a good attempt at damage control though, I'll give her that.

 

Aiel Heart obviously knows too much and needs to die now.

[Gabriel Kross]

[unvote] [v]AH[/v]

[Darthe]

Official Vote Count One

 

Sooh (2/8): Dice, Hally

EP (2/8): Pizza, Talya

Dice (1/8): Sooh

AH (2/8): AJ, EP

 

Not Voting (8/15):

AH, Thane, Leelou, Krak, White Knight, Alannalynn, Seph, Cass 

 

Deadline is at 9:30 AM EST on 5/22/2015.  With 15 alive it takes 8 to lynch.

[Talya]

Talya can you rephrase that?

 

haha, I'll try. I don't read anything into that view as reading it X2 or not. I'm very good at misreading, if I see something and I have something in my head I tend to think that is what I read (Hally's Bodyguard is that kind of thing). I have to read slowly to stop that happening, though that is no guarantee. Although I read that as EP2.0 not X2 I don't think it is a tell that people are mafia or not. Being able to read slowly in this game has been nigh on impossible. Hence I have misread things. I do it typing and writing as well.

 

e.g., If I had been thinking about Leelou and her double vote I could have looked at that and seen it. I'm not saying that is definitely what happened to all, I just think it is a null reading for telling who or who is not wolf.

[Gabriel Kross]

I guess I should reveal why I trust AJ this game. Early on in the game before we had a lot of claims or a handle on the game I asked AJ to outright state if he was mafia or not for LD purposes. He did with no hesitation. It's clear by this point we don't have an LD, but at the time there was no way of knowing. It gave me a strong sesnse that I could get behind what AJ says.

[Andrej]

 

Talya can you rephrase that?

 

haha, I'll try. I don't read anything into that view as reading it X2 or not. I'm very good at misreading, if I see something and I have something in my head I tend to think that is what I read (Hally's Bodyguard is that kind of thing). I have to read slowly to stop that happening, though that is no guarantee. Although I read that as EP2.0 not X2 I don't think it is a tell that people are mafia or not. Being able to read slowly in this game has been nigh on impossible. Hence I have misread things. I do it typing and writing as well.

 

e.g., If I had been thinking about Leelou and her double vote I could have looked at that and seen it. I'm not saying that is definitely what happened to all, I just think it is a null reading for telling who or who is not wolf.

 

Okay. Now consider the fact that she is apparently correct on this.

 

Does that change it for you?

[Andrej]

I guess I should reveal why I trust AJ this game. Early on in the game before we had a lot of claims or a handle on the game I asked AJ to outright state if he was mafia or not for LD purposes. He did with no hesitation. It's clear by this point we don't have an LD, but at the time there was no way of knowing. It gave me a strong sesnse that I could get behind what AJ says.

 

Not gonna lie that's not a very good reason to trust me.

 

I would still answer the same as a wolf regardless because 1) the likelihood of there ever being a LD is small and 2) the likelihood of there being a LD and them checking me specifically is even smaller.

[Gabriel Kross]

 

I guess I should reveal why I trust AJ this game. Early on in the game before we had a lot of claims or a handle on the game I asked AJ to outright state if he was mafia or not for LD purposes. He did with no hesitation. It's clear by this point we don't have an LD, but at the time there was no way of knowing. It gave me a strong sesnse that I could get behind what AJ says.

 

Not gonna lie that's not a very good reason to trust me.

 

I would still answer the same as a wolf regardless because 1) the likelihood of there ever being a LD is small and 2) the likelihood of there being a LD and them checking me specifically is even smaller.

 

I was asking it in a way that people would suspect the mason team had a LD. It was kind of ignored by most people, but honestly I felt I got the desired result out of it.

[Talya]

 

 

Talya can you rephrase that?

 

haha, I'll try. I don't read anything into that view as reading it X2 or not. I'm very good at misreading, if I see something and I have something in my head I tend to think that is what I read (Hally's Bodyguard is that kind of thing). I have to read slowly to stop that happening, though that is no guarantee. Although I read that as EP2.0 not X2 I don't think it is a tell that people are mafia or not. Being able to read slowly in this game has been nigh on impossible. Hence I have misread things. I do it typing and writing as well.

 

e.g., If I had been thinking about Leelou and her double vote I could have looked at that and seen it. I'm not saying that is definitely what happened to all, I just think it is a null reading for telling who or who is not wolf.

 

Okay. Now consider the fact that she is apparently correct on this.

 

Does that change it for you?

 

 

how do you correct on this? I was meaning those that say they saw it like that. I'm not saying AH is wolf or not, I'm inclined more towards, but I wouldn't use just this to decide. I thought first of all that she could only know if she was on the same team, but now seeing where she seems to have got it from then not so much, but as I said it doesn't mean she is town, just this episode. It could still be a slip and she has managed to cover it. I can't deny that neither.

[Talya]

How do you mean? That first should be

[Andrej]

How do you mean? That first should be

 

I mean that I think it's too big of a coincidence. I think that post clearly doesn't say what she is taking from it and probably indicates she knows more than she should. Even if the 'catch' was genuine, why just assume it true and green read him without doing some research first? Like maybe asking WK about it - or checking VCs to confirm. No, she just took it for fact and when she got called out on it she had to throw that post up since it's ~plausible.

 

If Aiel Heart is a wolf, there's two conclusions to be drawn here.

 

1) She is partners with White Knight and therefore knew about his ability via NAs

 

2) She has some ability that allows her to check for powers (role cop, etc) and just happened to check WK. I find this one less likely because it relies a lot on coincidence, and also the fact that WK floated this but isn't voting for someone he thinks could be a role cop and who knows more about him than they probably should.

[Talya]

Ahhh, I see what you mean. She should have asked him about it if nothing else. I wasn't saying that she is town over it and yes she should have questioned him about it, that she didn't means, she knew something and was found out. I was meaning anyone who saw it and read the "x2" Pizza etc, I was meaning that anyone reading it that way does not make them wolf, other things do, like you said, the fact she never asked or carried on with it.

 

 

 

I guess I should reveal why I trust AJ this game. Early on in the game before we had a lot of claims or a handle on the game I asked AJ to outright state if he was mafia or not for LD purposes. He did with no hesitation. It's clear by this point we don't have an LD, but at the time there was no way of knowing. It gave me a strong sesnse that I could get behind what AJ says.

 

Not gonna lie that's not a very good reason to trust me.

 

I would still answer the same as a wolf regardless because 1) the likelihood of there ever being a LD is small and 2) the likelihood of there being a LD and them checking me specifically is even smaller.

 

I was asking it in a way that people would suspect the mason team had a LD. It was kind of ignored by most people, but honestly I felt I got the desired result out of it.

 

 

you only got the result if said person thought of a LD when answering. that you would never truely know.

[Sooh]

I'm trying to see your case on AH. You all feel she's outed for having WK as 2x voter in her summary post?

 

It does seem like TMI... I'm interested to hear what she has to say about it.

 

Until she comes back thought I'm happy to

 

[unvote] [v]Heart[/v]

[Hallia]

I'm happy with my Sooh vote; she is so content to vote anyone. She was so firmly attached to Dice, she said "lynch me tomorrow if I'm wrong." And is now happy to pop over to AH who has a couple of votes over a silly misread.

[Leelou]

I'm happy with my Sooh vote; she is so content to vote anyone. She was so firmly attached to Dice, she said "lynch me tomorrow if I'm wrong." And is now happy to pop over to AH who has a couple of votes over a silly misread.

 

Just a silly misread? What are your thoughts on the fact that she could be on a team with him or a role cop? 

[Andrej]

A silly misread that happened to be correct?

 

Come on now...

[Hallia]

Seeing as I read it the same way it's not overly concerning. I find her being so sparse more suspicious. What I find scummy are the people happy to jump to these conclusions so fast.

[Hallia]

That it was correct is creepy, he hasn't proven it yet though has he?

[Andrej]

That it was correct is creepy, he hasn't proven it yet though has he?

 

No - but why acknowledge it in the first place if it wasn't legit?

[Hallia]

Town cred? Who can say. I'm suspicious of both but more so of Sooh

[Andrej]

Town cred? Who can say. I'm suspicious of both but more so of Sooh

 

How does that even work? Explain this for me.

[Hallia]

He's scum. He sees her mistake. He makes up the role to make her look guilty. She is lynched and he wins.