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[Ithillian Turambar]

Turin the first post was to sooh from Dice, so view it however you want.

Turin I am wanting your opinion on ithi here.

I found it odd that she just wasn't asking questions like before. apparently it is apart of her meta. I have only played in one game so I have that and hearsay to go off of.

She was poked at twice, with no response. When snow voted for the distancing thing, she just ignored it. It seems off to me.

 

Turin seems like town turin, though I have only played with wolf Turin.

You said this ... but then followed it upd with some very ambiguous posts about how it's just a hunch and you could be wrong.

 

Could you please clarify for me how Turin plays when he is Town and how he plays when is is Mafia ... and then confirm what he's done in this game and where they would fall for you on the Turin Town ---> Mafia scale?

 

I'm not digging any hole btw. Your posts are inconsistent. You judge me and Turin differently even though you've now advised your initialy vote on me had no basis. You also wish to stay with that vote.

 

I'm not voting you because you're voting me. If I was bothered about votes on me I'd have bounced around like a pinball as I've had three.

 

I feel there's an agenda focusing on me because it's far better to get me lynched than have to use up a Night Kill. That's why I think I'm the target over Turin ... I'm far more dangerous than him.

[Thane Vakarian]

i'll try to put in some reading later on. it's a typical monday at work: two people called in sick and we have no idea how we'll cover the shifts 2 hours from now... great .... 

[Kaylee]

Official Vote Count

 

Ithi (2): Tress, Seph

Turin (1): Ithi

Seph (2): John Snow, Ithi

Tress (1): Turin

Eldrick (1): Not Bob

 

Not Voting (5): Zander, Nol, Sooh, Thane, AJ

 

 

With 12 alive it takes 7 to lynch.

 

No deadline at this time.

[Ithillian Turambar]

i'll try to put in some reading later on. it's a typical monday at work: two people called in sick and we have no idea how we'll cover the shifts 2 hours from now... great ....

This is not the Cliche game you know? You can't just pop up with the 'please don't think I'm Mafia because I'm not being active. I'll do a read up I promise'. I should set you a timer and see if you ever make it back.

[Ithillian Turambar]

 

 

@Turin - I'm told I'm quite the looker, so enjoy the view

 

I'll read the longer quotes with my detail later when I'm back home and on my laptop but the one thing that stands out to me currently is something Seph said.

 

How are you able to make a statement regarding Turin being town when you also state that you've only ever seen him as a wolf?

 

As far as the Ithi thing goes I'm a bit indifferent about it. I don't think it's a negative discussion necessarily and it has generated some activity but it's not something I would consider hugely troubling.

 

@NotBob - Why Eldrick?

Why not?

 

He has a history of scumminess.

You could always check and see if a random and unrelated post about something mafia related has been started by him on the Mafia Board

[Thane Vakarian]

i can't help that my colleagues don't show up at work, can i? i've only skimmed the thread so far, and have found nothing sticking out to me. Re-reading will have to wait. 

[Eldrick4221]

 

 

 

@Turin - I'm told I'm quite the looker, so enjoy the view

 

I'll read the longer quotes with my detail later when I'm back home and on my laptop but the one thing that stands out to me currently is something Seph said.

 

How are you able to make a statement regarding Turin being town when you also state that you've only ever seen him as a wolf?

 

As far as the Ithi thing goes I'm a bit indifferent about it. I don't think it's a negative discussion necessarily and it has generated some activity but it's not something I would consider hugely troubling.

 

@NotBob - Why Eldrick?

Why not?

 

He has a history of scumminess.

You could always check and see if a random and unrelated post about something mafia related has been started by him on the Mafia Board

Ouch. I deserve that one lol.

[Andrej]

Good morning.

[Thane Vakarian]

morning AJ *hands coffee and has a beer*

[Andrej]

 

@NotBob - Why Eldrick?

 

 

Why not?

 

He has a history of scumminess.

I wouldn't know.

[Andrej]

Hi Thane

 

Good seeing you again.

[Thane Vakarian]

been a while indeed. Let's see if we both can stay alive long enough to be able to play a bit together in this one, shall we?

 

Also been busy working on an interactive Rp'ing adventure which i'm modding over in the Band, which is running quite well for the moment. 

[Zander?]

Hey Thane you town?

[Thane Vakarian]

Yes Zander, i am. Let's hunt some wolves, no?

[Zander?]

Yes Zander, i am. Let's hunt some wolves, no?

 

Agreed

[seph]

 

Seph, You go from giving Ithi an immediate town read for basically nothing to using statements Snow made to raise an FoS at her. Then vote after Tress does. Then you state that the QT comment by Snow was a joke IYO. (BTW it is be a joke 99.5% of the time) The same comment that you were using to cast doubt at her with. So if it is okay for you to think it was a joke then why can she not think it is also a joke and "let it go". 

 

 

As to the bolded, that is false. Mafia will float an idea nad hope that a townie picks up on it. Then after a bad lynch they kind of slink away and let the firt voter take the blame. To be fair it does happen the other way as well. Mafia will jump in and take over a townie's idea and Then say something like "Player X made a good case.*shrug*".

 

So let me ask you this: Are you more suspicious of Ithi for letting the comments go. (some of which could be interpreted as jokes) Snow for making the QT comment in the first place or Tress for jumping in with you after she was wary of you earlier? 

 

 

^^^is turin^^^

 

I think I messed the quote up.

I was trying to get other's opinions on the qt statement, that part didn't have anything to do with me questioning ithi. That just made me wonder just about him. If its usually a joke, this is the first time I have saw it(sorry I don't get mafia humor yet) 

 

 

Vote Ithi

Because that distancing >.>

 

I'm excited. It's good to be back

This being ignored, plus the reasons I have given are my suspicions. I find this to be the most suspicious.

 

I may be biased towards Tress/buddy her, but she told me how she plays. I guess she could use it against me, but I want to give her the benefit of the doubt right now.

 

So the other thing seems to have been resolved and we can moved on.

 

With regards to the John Snow vote I quite clearly did respond to it as a mentioned he might not have known about Turin's brilliant idea. It is interesting that he would class that as being distancing however when no role pms had been sent at the time.

 

Tress first vote was interesting. I'm torn on her as I feel it would have been unlikely a mafia would have poked the bear. Also she's been responding to any doubts from other players like a wealthy Jane Austin relative. I honestly expected her to start calling people 'dear'. I find she's far more endearing and fluffy when she's mafia as she doesn't want to be seen as a threat.

 

Onto seph. He leapt onto the Ithi vote super fast. He sees my change in game behaviour as being mafia but Turin's as being town. I think he was also part of the conversation in the sign up thread where Turin decided to do this and where I posted what my response would be.

 

Given that I can't spot a Turin mafia on day one, and even darthe failed to get him Lynched in the last game, I strongly doubt that seph has got him sussed. I think the only way seph would know for sure that Turin is town is if seph were mafia. I think seph got himself stuck in a hole.

 

[V]seph [/v]

So first off ithi my base is still here, nice try. This does not clear you ("Morning. I thought I made it clear that I wasn't playing mafia last night. I needed to sort something else out that unfortunately could only be done in the game. and then I went to bed" ) as apparently Thane being at work by himself and posting doesn't clear him? Even if you and Turin went about the game differently,the fact that town ithi, makes it known very early on. I don't understand what Darthe has to do with this. Since he couldn't lynch Turin as a wolf, we should always be suspicious?

     

The John Snow vote was interesting, and he seemed to be joking in regards to the front page. I believed him, but today I saw that you

With regards to the John Snow vote I quite clearly did respond to it as a mentioned he might not have known about Turin's brilliant idea. It is interesting that he would class that as being distancing however when no role pms had been sent at the time.

 

 or Turin did not take it as so.

 

 Turin Turambar, on 26 Apr 2015 - 7:05 PM, said:

 

Vote Ithi

Because that distancing >.>

 

I'm excited. It's good to be back

Which distancing? 

 

You may not of ignored it, but you brushed it aside there, only commenting after I called you out.

 

 

 

What John Snow doesn't know is that Turin has unilaterally decided to abandon me this game and thus he can don a red shirt when the engine canny tak' it any more.

 

 

So I've decided to annoy him by making new friends instead.

 

I'll also be playing a Mafia Game inbetween annoying him.

This was Ithi noting that Snow was probably out of touch in the matter of my deciding to try to reduce TurIthi commentary by playing a different way.(It didn't work) So it was NOT ignored. It was more giving him a benefit of the doubt. Does that help?

 

I don't think I mentioned your Sooh vote except that I noted that Tress used it as a means to suspect you.  

 

Here we have Turin defending you, as expected. Turin if you look above does it look like she gave him the benefit of the doubt??

 

 

 

 

 

Turin the first post was to sooh from Dice, so view it however you want.

Turin I am wanting your opinion on ithi here.

I found it odd that she just wasn't asking questions like before. apparently it is apart of her meta. I have only played in one game so I have that and hearsay to go off of.

She was poked at twice, with no response. When snow voted for the distancing thing, she just ignored it. It seems off to me.

 

Turin seems like town turin, though I have only played with wolf Turin.

You said this ... but then followed it upd with some very ambiguous posts about how it's just a hunch and you could be wrong.

 

Could you please clarify for me how Turin plays when he is Town and how he plays when is is Mafia ... and then confirm what he's done in this game and where they would fall for you on the Turin Town ---> Mafia scale?

 

I'm not digging any hole btw. Your posts are inconsistent. You judge me and Turin differently even though you've now advised your initialy vote on me had no basis. You also wish to stay with that vote.

 

I'm not voting you because you're voting me. If I was bothered about votes on me I'd have bounced around like a pinball as I've had three.

 

I feel there's an agenda focusing on me because it's far better to get me lynched than have to use up a Night Kill. That's why I think I'm the target over Turin ... I'm far more dangerous than him.

 

It seems like Turin is town, It seems to be just a hunch ithi... please get over that I have explained it already. If you want my idea behind it, look at Turin's last game, http://www.dragonmount.com/forums/topic/93367-9-5-mafia-day-3-game-over-mafia-wins/ and compare it here. I am trying to develop reads on people that I have played before. Don't judge me for making a read on someone who you cannot read.

 

please explain how my posts are inconsistent? I have yet to get a answer except I couldn't address the issue anywhere else. It seemed like you all could of pmed anything in the early thread as it was a lot of joking.

 

your right mafia>turin this post makes me want to vote you more.

You have been inconsistent with town ithi, at least you coming at someone makes me feel a little better, even if it is me. If I was mafia why on earth would I go after you if you were town, I would avoid you like a plague.

 

All you did was post my reason for voting you, say those are not a base, and bring back the john snow comment when he voted. No one else took this as a joke, sorry but I am curious of you both.

[Turin Turambar]

 

Tress, That is possible in a way. Ithi is as transparent as anyone that actually plays this game if you look at exactly what she types. She does not posture. Read her posts again and don't tell me what they mean to you. The only true game comment so far was her questioning your percieved nudge about premature clearance by Seph.

 

That's the concern, Turin. Town!Ithi typically does not sit around and chitchat to start the game, she dives right in and starts pressuring for reactions.

 

She's not doing that here.

Is she now? I told you yo give it a little time. What is your opinion of Ithi today?

 

There were a very specific set of circumstances yesterday that created the delay to her normal game start. I know this had nothing yo do with her alignment and everything to do with my change in style. You can ascribe all.of this as "gameplay" itt but that take would be incorrect.

 

As to your shock that I would defend her at that point, really? Really? IMO I didn't even defend her that much. I ess asked my opinion by seph and you about what was going on with Ithi and why she was playing differently. I answered those questions, if somewhat ambiguously. Again read the words she typed on those first few pages. Remove that this is a game and form a conclusion why she played "different".

[Ithillian Turambar]

Hi Seph - I'm not going to 'get over' that you've explained why you think Turin might be Town when you haven't and why you can't explain what Turin does when he's Town and what he does when he's Mafia.

 

Your post above is a little confusing. Are you now saying that you think I'm more likely to be Town and Turin is more likely to be Mafia? Why does it have to be one or the other? Is it not possible that both of us are Town? This reads like a set up for future Lynches type post - 'ah well if X is Town then Y must be mafia'. The thing is, no-one on Town could ever make that kind of linking statement, although I know some do.

 

Finally, I don't think you did have the initial idea to vote for me. I think you though Tress was going to push for me and now she's not really doing that you're going through the 'eject eject!' phase of a bad mafia vote.

 

 

I'm also interested in how Eldrick identified a teeny tiny part of your post and also pointed out the exact timestamps that could make it seem you'd started your post before Tress posted her vote. Why on earth would he go to all that trouble to defend you, do you think? It was a very specific thing he found. There are two options ... either you're both mafia and you asked him to point that out on your QT, or he's Mafia and you're being played and he's defending you to look more Town.

 

Which do you think it is?

[Turin Turambar]

@Seph. Yesterday yes she did or she wasn't interested in the game. The post you just quoted was from her this morning (8 hours ahead Of me anyway). She is now in the game. Do you see the difference? I would recommend disregarding everything from yesterday as it was not indicative of her alignment.

 

Again you choose to trust me on this or not. But you did previously ask my opinion on the matter. Why do that if you intend to ignore said opinion?

[Ithillian Turambar]

I really didn't like it and it made me sad to be ignored. You wouldn't ignore me if we played Triv or Monopoly so why you thought it would be ok to do that in a mafia game is beyond me.

 

As I couldn't talk about the game outside the game I had no choice but to deal with it within the game. It's been dealt with and now I can just play.

 

Faking indifference to Turin would feel like lying to me and I really don't like lying. And him being indifferent to me felt the same.

[seph]

turin I am not ignoring it, I promise. I am taking it into account, after this post I will let this go for now.

 

 

Hi Seph - I'm not going to 'get over' that you've explained why you think Turin might be Town when you haven't and why you can't explain what Turin does when he's Town and what he does when he's Mafia.

Your post above is a little confusing. Are you now saying that you think I'm more likely to be Town and Turin is more likely to be Mafia? Why does it have to be one or the other? Is it not possible that both of us are Town? This reads like a set up for future Lynches type post - 'ah well if X is Town then Y must be mafia'. The thing is, no-one on Town could ever make that kind of linking statement, although I know some do.

Finally, I don't think you did have the initial idea to vote for me. I think you though Tress was going to push for me and now she's not really doing that you're going through the 'eject eject!' phase of a bad mafia vote.


I'm also interested in how Eldrick identified a teeny tiny part of your post and also pointed out the exact timestamps that could make it seem you'd started your post before Tress posted her vote. Why on earth would he go to all that trouble to defend you, do you think? It was a very specific thing he found. There are two options ... either you're both mafia and you asked him to point that out on your QT, or he's Mafia and you're being played and he's defending you to look more Town.

Which do you think it is?

You both could be mafia or town I was not inciting that. It is my current take on the situation, nothing more. Maybe I don't understand the eject eject thing, I have simply been stating why I voted, and my opinion on Turin. Ithi if you are town I promise to go to the ends of the earth to hunt with you. If need be I will do anything to prove I am town, though I am trying to be as active as possible.

 

Ithi I don't know how to explain it, except I feel Turin is playing differently so far. in the other game he seemed to have a lot of w/w banter as someone earlier called it, and a lot more joking. 

 

I have no idea on Eldrick, For me I usually have 2-3 windows of mafia open so if I see a new reply, I try to refresh and look at it, before I finish typing. I would view the time stamp as irrelevant information, I read the vote before I posted, I am pretty sure it states that in my post actually.

 

All I am saying is it would be nice to have this ithi yesterday.

[Turin Turambar]

I was trying to be more discreet about it but yes this.

 

Sorry lovely

[Ithillian Turambar]

I was trying to be more discreet about it but yes this.

 

Sorry lovely

Is ok now

 

 

AND you should ALL be thanking me for getting rid of indifferent Turin, because if he is Mafia it would have been a LOT easier for him to hide it if I'd have let him play in a different way. Look how much trouble everyone had with Cliche in the first couple of days.

[Thane Vakarian]

Thank you Ithi  

[Nolder]

Also it's you're. If you're Town. Shortened from you are.

 

I don't know if we can be bestest buddies if I have to editor your posts.

Is that proper grammar tho?