[Advanced] Arthurian Mafia

[Eldrick4221]

Morning lol. I'm actually on my way to bed :P

I was just checking one last time before I left. I know night phases aren't as busy, but still.

[Cass]

Morning!

 

(or 4 mins to, anyway - nearly time for bed!)

[Thane Vakarian]

*sighs*

 

*twiddles thumbs*

 

well, i guess it's wait and see...

 

who wants/needs a drink?

[Cass]

Me please!

[Thane Vakarian]

*hands Cass a flaming shot*

 

so, i just resigned from active duty in my old re-enactment group. I'm going to focus on the group i'm building...

 

*sighs and gulps down a shot*

 

not easy after a couple of years of comradery

[Yates]

who wants/needs a drink?

Breakfast beer?

[Thane Vakarian]

it's 3:21 pm here, but yeah, breakfast beer for you, afternoon beer for me

[Yates]

not easy after a couple of years of comradery

Yup. I left my old brew club to start a new one closer to home. We had more regular members than the 20 year old club by the 2nd or 3rd meeting. It was nuts.

 

I tried going back to a couple of meetings at the old club just to say hi and it was weird.

[Yates]

Thane - are you familiar with Eldrick or Cass meta?

[Thane Vakarian]

no idea on Eldrick, and Cass had me seriously fooled last game we had together. 2 players to keep in mind for me

 

*has another shot*

[Leelou]

*sighs*

 

*twiddles thumbs*

 

well, i guess it's wait and see...

 

who wants/needs a drink?

 

ME!!!

[Yates]

ME!!!

Morning.    

 

Are you familiar with Eldrick or Cass meta? Also, how are you feeling about Verb this game?

[Cass]

 

*hands Cass a flaming shot*

 

so, i just resigned from active duty in my old re-enactment group. I'm going to focus on the group i'm building...

 

*sighs and gulps down a shot*

 

not easy after a couple of years of comradery

 

*Pats the lawbreaker on the back* Not easy letting go perhaps, but necessary to grasp the next adventure with both hands... In that sense you've probably made the right decision. Drink up and enjoy!

 

And cheers for the shot :)

[Cass]

 

Thane - are you familiar with Eldrick or Cass meta?

*raises an eyebrow*

 

Yates - you've played both the games Thane has with me...

 

 

 

 

ME!!!

Morning.     

Are you familiar with Eldrick or Cass meta? Also, how are you feeling about Verb this game?

 

 

Alright, I'll bite. 

 

Why are you asking if people are familiar with my 'meta'? 

[Leelou]

 

ME!!!

Morning.    

 

Are you familiar with Eldrick or Cass meta? Also, how are you feeling about Verb this game?

 

 

I don't remember if I ever played with Eldrick. I played with Cass once and it was her first game. She posted novels. So far, feeling pretty decent about Verb. 

 

How do you feel about Barm? 

[Cass]

Aaaannddd... *off to bed*

 

Ninight all.

[Darthe]

@Lily, what you think of my play thus far is out of my hands but it doesn't affect my alignment, just your impression of it.  Please make that distinction when contemplating me critically.

 

 

It's not a question of whether or not it was stupid. It was stupid. Only I feel that it was more of a cover up to pilling on me without noticing that my train wasn't a serious one. It's all about the motives behind it. He can claim it was all a fib for reaction. But I find it awkward more than anything. And thereby scummy.

He had bad posts, than improved a bit but then started pinging me again. Overall I'm not buying what he's selling.

Like I said, I'm less suspicious of him now, because there are still reasons other people are. It's just my reason alone isn't good enough for me anymore.

 

I get this line of reasoning and sometimes we all do it, just keep in mind that you're additionally letting the opinions of mafia help sway you.  In a perfect world those balance out or mafia takes a back-seat but in reality one of them is probably in the top 3-4 posters and has a heavy hand in events.

[Yates]

Yates - you've played both the games Thane has with me...

How would I know that? I've been out of mafia since just before my wife went into labor. AND I don't know where else you play mafia. Still seem like a silly question to you?

 

Why are you asking if people are familiar with my 'meta'?

To help me read you? Thought that was obvious. As you say, we've only been in 2 games together and I already knew your alignment in one of them, if I'm not mistaken.

[Yates]

How do you feel about Barm?

I have no feels on Barm. I actually forget he's in the game. Post 554 was probably his best contribution thus far. It's a fairly safe reads list, though, and I don't know that Barm plays it this safe. So I guess that's concerning?

[Leelou]

 

How do you feel about Barm?

I have no feels on Barm. I actually forget he's in the game. Post 554 was probably his best contribution thus far. It's a fairly safe reads list, though, and I don't know that Barm plays it this safe. So I guess that's concerning?

 

 

I've been getting slight bad feelz from him. 

[Verbal32]

@Darthe - you can argue about how you meant to sound the way you did until you're blue in the face.  Maybe if you insult DMers enough and insinuate that other forums would have cleared you for it, people will think you're town.  Maybe.

 

Maybe you're scum and made a mistake and are now trying to diminish everybody else to make them think they suck for suspecting you.  I've seen it work before, so good luck with that.

 

Maybe you're town and the same thing applies.  If that's the case, my opinion is that you're using the wrong strategy to clear yourself.  But hey, I'm a DMer and you know - DMers gonna DM, right?

[Yates]

Out of character for a second:

But hey, I'm a DMer and you know - DMers gonna DM, right?

I know that you are sensitive to this mentality IRL as you basically birthed the mafia culture on this site.

 

I think it is misguided sensitivity in this instance. I don't think Darthe was mocking DM culture. I think he was just noting how he would be perceived elsewhere. I think you know he loves playing here and frankly, is the one that recruited me to this site way back when BECAUSE of how much he liked it [so blame Darthe for my presence!].

 

Just don't want to see something erupt into a personal pissing match over a misunderstanding.

 

That is all.

[Nynaeve]

@Darthe - you can argue about how you meant to sound the way you did until you're blue in the face.  Maybe if you insult DMers enough and insinuate that other forums would have cleared you for it, people will think you're town.  Maybe.

 

Maybe you're scum and made a mistake and are now trying to diminish everybody else to make them think they suck for suspecting you.  I've seen it work before, so good luck with that.

 

Maybe you're town and the same thing applies.  If that's the case, my opinion is that you're using the wrong strategy to clear yourself.  But hey, I'm a DMer and you know - DMers gonna DM, right?

 

+1

 

I didn't like him noting that it was old timer players voting him, mentioning other sites and bla bla bla. Seemed completely irrelevant and a questionable way to go around trying to clear himself. When someone is more preoccupied at defending oneself using make believe reasons instead of scumhunting and proving his alignment by actually looking for scum, it's usually not a good sign. Darthe has been hypocritical several times that I've seen. For instance trying to claim that I had a ton of posts with nothing to show for which, aside from being a complete misrep, is funny considering he has ample post count himself with nothing to show for (for realz). Telling Eldrick just now that there's prolly scum in the top posters, when he's the third in post count right now lol...  Not saying that scum can't be active. They come in all shapes and colors.... but I don't really get why he's going around things the way that he has. It's not coming across pro-town in the least. And he's been specifically nudging me repeatedly the entire game for no reason that I can see. I've been waiting for a while for him to actually build a case.... still waiting.

 

But heck, since I'm so nice, and since he wanted my attention that badly, he has it. I'm sure we'll live happily ever after.... or at least I will :P

[Nynaeve]

tldr, come at me scum

[Verbal32]

Out of character for a second:

But hey, I'm a DMer and you know - DMers gonna DM, right?

I know that you are sensitive to this mentality IRL as you basically birthed the mafia culture on this site.

 

I think it is misguided sensitivity in this instance. I don't think Darthe was mocking DM culture. I think he was just noting how he would be perceived elsewhere. I think you know he loves playing here and frankly, is the one that recruited me to this site way back when BECAUSE of how much he liked it [so blame Darthe for my presence!].

 

Just don't want to see something erupt into a personal pissing match over a misunderstanding.

 

That is all.

 

Sensitive is an understatement, but I appreciate your concern.

 

 

People have.. frankly.. been stupid in the way that they reacted to this.  It's been a scapegoat for those wanting to make huge arguments out of pitifully weak inconsistencies and diatribe.  The only reason I wound up, potentially, on the chopping block or was even perceived negatively is because it was easier to make the argument that being intentionally obtuse is scummy (hint: it isn't even related, why would scum be difficult?) and sheep than critically contemplate the value of riling a group and seeing who decides to react to it/who follows/who jumps on easy targets/reasoning and logic and gaps in logic among those people.  I said it before and I stand by it.  It's basic on their part.  

 

The exceptions to that are the players not from DM who have a more... calculating view of the game.  Dice has developed some of that from really getting into playing since their introduction so he is a bit of an outlier.  Clov pretty quickly got what I was doing as did mrs clov.  Sili is interesting (and I have been prodding him/digging into his rationale) because he has went back and forth on it depending on the crowd and situation.  Notice that when I sided with him against Clov he tried to work with clov (recognizing the different methodology) because he was attempting to play that side of things yet when I  sided with clov he switched to the DM native mentality and began to cater to them almost exclusively.  That sort of shift in rationale is what I would consider suspicious. 

 

I would also point out that, even if on a minuscule level, my lynch not going through does increase the likelihood of me being town.  It means I was divisive, something that scum doesn't allow on D1 for their teammates 99% of the time.

 

 

 

It isn't for me?  I was confident that that was the argument you were making for ~20 pages.

I really don't see you being town.

 

You'd have to be daft not to imo.  I get that DMers gonna DM but somewhere like VS I'd have already been lauded for this imo.  It wasn't like I masterminded anything, it was just risky play intended to throw people off in the early game and everyone chose to lvl 1 it.

 

 

Yates, if you read the blue in order, it seems hard to translate that in any other way than how I have.