Escape From The Carnival Of Horrors! Game Thread [Mafia Win]

[Nynaeve]

As far as Sili goes, I can see him bringing this picking topic up as both town and scum. Need to see more of him going forward. The frustration is not really telling either. So I'm looking forward to see his reads and thoughts on the actual players.

 

Feeling good about Verbal right now. I like the points he made with his exchange with Tina. He seems proactive and he's definitely paying attention. All good signs. AJ is giving me good feels but that's mostly gut. So I'm still reserving the right to tunnel on him later (the shovel is but a step away :P).

 

 

Halli,... talk to me.

 

 

Gonna do a bit rereading to see if anything else catches my eye.

[Niniel]

 

I like Nolder's posts so far.

 

What exactly do you like about his posts? Can you be more specific? He has two. One of them has no actual content. The other one is the mass of quotes he was replying to.

 

IMO, It wasn't a bad post, really. He touched on some things AJ and I were saying. Though I'm not sure how I feel about him saying he might let flavor affect his decisions a bit... cause it's fun. He hasn't really struck me as a jokey yolo player from what I've seen of him. So seems a little out of place to me. Otherwise seems kinda nullish so I'm curious what gave you good feels about it.

 

 

I also thought that comment from Nolder was strange. 

 

 

I quoted the dialoge between AJ and Kaylee. AJ - so you are not worried about Kaylee anymore?

I have her more as null than anything. I think Verb's commentary on the subject had merit that I didn't consider previously.

 

Do you think I should be more concerned? The way your question is worded seems a bit insinuating.

 

 

This conversation felt weird to me. It felt like you were going to press Kayle and then you kind of "gave up to easy" after Kaylee had re-posted an earlier post. What post from Verbal was it? 

[Andrej]

As far as Sili goes, I can see him bringing this picking topic up as both town and scum. Need to see more of him going forward. The frustration is not really telling either. So I'm looking forward to see his reads and thoughts on the actual players.

 

Feeling good about Verbal right now. I like the points he made with his exchange with Tina. He seems proactive and he's definitely paying attention. All good signs. AJ is giving me good feels but that's mostly gut. So I'm still reserving the right to tunnel on him later (the shovel is but a step away :P).

 

 

Halli,... talk to me.

 

 

Gonna do a bit rereading to see if anything else catches my eye.

Call me Dr. Good Feelz

 

I'm comfortable putting Verb as one of my greener reads moving forward. Ironically I thought his post reminding others that our commentary would be easy to make as either alignment would be easy for him to make as either alignment

 

Other than that I like his focus and other commentary.

[Red2111]

list so far

 

Town Lean

Verb

Nyn

Nol

 

all three's reaction to Sili's convo generation came off legit to me.  so townie points to these guys

 

Null to Lean Town

AJ - good content but not good enough to go in the Town Lean pile.  something about him is giving my gut the eeby jeebies and i cant put my finger on it tbh

Kay - tetl (too early to tell) but soulreading as town right now for meta reasons.

Tina - a little waffley on my initial town read on her ...  i dislike the auto-clear Sili angle and reasons for doing so she's going, but its not coming off scummy

 

 

Null

Hallia

Dice

Crush

 

not enough content right now to get a good read on

 

Null to Scum (PoS - Pool of Suspects)

Sili Quirrels - initally had townie points for an attempt at legit game start ...  but i really dislike what he was using to jump start the game and he's reacting very bad to pressure.  i also think Big Game Hunting is tactless.

Thane Vakarian - he flippant response to D1, the way he's interacting with Sili, and most of his posts come off as appearing to be active without really doign anything.

Leelou - i dislike her putting Nol as town then backing off quick with a "nah i just skimmed lawl" when pressured on it

 

 

[v]Thane[/v]  i want more pressure on the Thane Train.  right now his posts comes off as the most scummy

 

 

 

 

Well, it's two pages, and one is yours (in postcount)

 

votes aren't that serious, after all, the locations are merely flavor. You seem to be wanting to figure out who the bad guys are, but let's just play and find out, no? It's still early D1, and with the few comments made, it'd be hard to single out a few players.

 

Treat everybody as scum for now.

 

votes are always serious.  while the locations are flavor we're still trying to find scum.   you seem content just to spam and not do any legit hunting.  FoS to you.  its not a PAFO type of thing.  in order to find out we have to have legit convo, votes, pressure and soothing.  what your advocating is a "sit back and let the scum win" sort of attitude.

 

when you made this there was plenty of content to wade through and start making reads off of.  while i disagree with the content itself, it doesn't discount the reactions people had to said content and how they tried to use that content on thread.

 

 

slower pace admittedly is nice, indeed. And, as you said, some players still need to check in. Once everybody is in, the game can truely start

 

the game doesn't start when everyone checks in, the game starts when the first player posts.

 

i really dislike your flippant approach to Day 1 convo

 

 

[Nynaeve]

Kaylee, can you expand on the reads you gave? You said you like AJ, Nol and myself as town. Why?

[Andrej]

 

 

I quoted the dialoge between AJ and Kaylee. AJ - so you are not worried about Kaylee anymore?

I have her more as null than anything. I think Verb's commentary on the subject had merit that I didn't consider previously.

 

Do you think I should be more concerned? The way your question is worded seems a bit insinuating.

This conversation felt weird to me. It felt like you were going to press Kayle and then you kind of "gave up to easy" after Kaylee had re-posted an earlier post. What post from Verbal was it?

It was more passing commentary on my part since we were on the topic. Initially it made me a bit wary but like I said previously I think Verb's observation had merit I hadn't thought of and made me reconsider my stance on it. The posts were like a page back. I'd pull them up more readily but I'm phone posting.

 

You didn't answer my question though.

[Verbal32]

 

As far as Sili goes, I can see him bringing this picking topic up as both town and scum. Need to see more of him going forward. The frustration is not really telling either. So I'm looking forward to see his reads and thoughts on the actual players.

 

Feeling good about Verbal right now. I like the points he made with his exchange with Tina. He seems proactive and he's definitely paying attention. All good signs. AJ is giving me good feels but that's mostly gut. So I'm still reserving the right to tunnel on him later (the shovel is but a step away :P).

 

 

Halli,... talk to me.

 

 

Gonna do a bit rereading to see if anything else catches my eye.

Call me Dr. Good Feelz

 

I'm comfortable putting Verb as one of my greener reads moving forward. Ironically I thought his post reminding others that our commentary would be easy to make as either alignment would be easy for him to make as either alignment

 

Other than that I like his focus and other commentary.

 

 

The irony was not lost on me, either.  ;-)

[Kaylee]

Kaylee, can you expand on the reads you gave? You said you like AJ, Nol and myself as town. Why?

Verb said you could make the initial posts as either alignment but i got town vibes. Nothing you or AJ has said since has made me feel otherwise.

 

Also thinking Verb is coming across as town.

[Niniel]

 

 

 

I quoted the dialoge between AJ and Kaylee. AJ - so you are not worried about Kaylee anymore?

I have her more as null than anything. I think Verb's commentary on the subject had merit that I didn't consider previously.

 

Do you think I should be more concerned? The way your question is worded seems a bit insinuating.

This conversation felt weird to me. It felt like you were going to press Kayle and then you kind of "gave up to easy" after Kaylee had re-posted an earlier post. What post from Verbal was it?

It was more passing commentary on my part since we were on the topic. Initially it made me a bit wary but like I said previously I think Verb's observation had merit I hadn't thought of and made me reconsider my stance on it. The posts were like a page back. I'd pull them up more readily but I'm phone posting.

 

You didn't answer my question though.

 

 

Post it when you can.

 

If I think you should be conserned with Kaylee? That is up to you to decide. Do you think she is town? 

 

If I`m conserned with Kaylee? I have seen nothing scummy so far. 

[Sili Quirrels]

It seems my response to red will never come (tablet got frozen? as i submitted the post lol). Am on computer now.

 

If it really doesn't unfreeze itself I'll just spend a blurb on it later to clear the air.

[Andrej]

@Tina

 

 

 

 

 

After last game I won´t say "I won´t vote Sili ever" again (even though he had not been recruited when I said that), but I think this is town Sili. The comments about who would be picked as mafia didn´t really tell me anything but Sili is trying to start the game and is ready to hunt, which I think is typical town Sili.

Don't you think he could have posted this as any alignment? Especially early in the game, it is very easy to post "townie posts" when scum. It gets harder to do as the game evolves, but it is never easier than it is when people haven't even checked in yet.

Your post here basically functions as a CYA for you to be wrong on Sili, while buddying him at the same time. No bueno.

Another thing that bothered me was the ease which Kaylee was willing to roll with the idea.

Kind of expected though, right? Anybody labeled as "strong" is going to dislike the notion, and say so. Anybody labeled otherwise will probably like the idea regardless of their alignment:

1. if they are town, then they might see wisdom in clearing the "strong" players first, or people who easily fool them

2. if they are scum, then they like not being the center of attention early on and being able to blend in better with easy posts to make regardless of alignment

Basically, I don't like how Sili has spoon-fed easy posts for people to make regardless of alignment - it makes the first few pages of this game a complete crapshoot (with a few exceptions).

Not a bad post all together.

What were the few exceptions you saw?

I admit there's some validity to your statement about either alignment being okay with the idea if they were characterized as "weaker" that I hadn't considered. My thought on it more aligned with the idea that if Sili were just presenting a bad idea that scum could ride the momentum to pull down strong townies early on.

Mob mentality/witch hunt kinda thing.

[Andrej]

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

I quoted the dialoge between AJ and Kaylee. AJ - so you are not worried about Kaylee anymore?

 

I have her more as null than anything. I think Verb's commentary on the subject had merit that I didn't consider previously.

Do you think I should be more concerned? The way your question is worded seems a bit insinuating.

This conversation felt weird to me. It felt like you were going to press Kayle and then you kind of "gave up to easy" after Kaylee had re-posted an earlier post. What post from Verbal was it?

It was more passing commentary on my part since we were on the topic. Initially it made me a bit wary but like I said previously I think Verb's observation had merit I hadn't thought of and made me reconsider my stance on it. The posts were like a page back. I'd pull them up more readily but I'm phone posting.

You didn't answer my question though.

Post it when you can.

 

If I think you should be conserned with Kaylee? That is up to you to decide. Do you think she is town? 

 

If I`m conserned with Kaylee? I have seen nothing scummy so far.

I have her as null currently.

 

When you say that you've seen nothing scummy from her is it safe for me to assume that you have her in your town pile then? If so I'm curious as to why you've brought up this line of questioning.

 

To what purpose do you think I would be letting her off easily? You're making a lot of implicit sort of connections, which I think is pretty suspect.

[Andrej]

Bah my connection is being crappy now.

 

I'm gonna [/unvote] and [v]Tina[/v] as she's the first firm suspect I have.

[Andrej]

 

We probably don't even have to unvote first. Screw it.

[Sili Quirrels]

Leelou's Progression

 

Sup?

 

I'll comment on the game in the AM. 

 

 

 

2. "I think most people pick at least reasonably competent mafia players as their partners, so commonly held weaker players should get less attention today (i.e. me and dice) since our rand chance is 1 in 13."
I think most people would pick their friends or whomever they're most comfortable with. For example I probably wouldn't pick Kaylee and I don't think she'd pick me. I don't think we've ever been on a team before and it would be kind of awkward at the least. There are a lot of ways one could approach this puzzle and you're focusing on one. I also think it's both funny and convenient that you've included yourself as someone who should get less attention today. Also ironic since you're being so outspoken and driving the conversation.

Blue bolded is something I agree with and was pointing out earlier with the angle-shooting/narrative line.
 

I didn't see that.

 

Yes, it is coming across as intended then. I like being ironic.

 

Though it is also true I can't picture myself being picked by anybody here so I dunno, but I don't think I was rand to be mafia this game.

 

 

You were just picked to be cult, so your thoughts on this matter are irrelevant. 

 

I like Nolder's posts so far.

Okay, I just skimmed. I'm wicked busy trying to get a deck together for work. I'm leaving here in about an hour and will have time to read on the train. When I get home, I'll be able to give in depth thoughts. 

I'm skeptical of Leelou because her first post implies she has stuff to comment on, but there is no follow up. She's really not said anything engaged, and I find that disconcerting. I need more content, or more time, before I settle on a read, but atp I'm going back and forth between scum and null.

 

 

 

 

So the mafia recruits before the rand. Then the stronger the mafia player the more tempting the recruit is, so I think it's good to discern their allignments first. I think most people pick at least reasonably competent mafia players as their partners, so commonly held weaker players should get less attention today (i.e. me and dice) since our rand chance is 1 in 13.

I think this approach puts the most pressure on people like nyn, but I think that's for the best. We just need to be cognissant that individuals who are good at being scum are more likely to be scum in this set up. Though this isn't to say we don't take out scummy players if we spot any.

Makes sense to me.

 

 

Like it did for others, this statement tilted me until I could picture her making it with a phone. Overall from the interactive opening and Kaylee's later explanation, I think she's more likely town than not. But there are worlds where she's tricked me and ongoing debate over the scumminess of her opening sits well with me. Though I probably won't float her lynch unless there's a compelling argument.

 

 

The variance comes from the original Mafia member's opinion on the player pool to select from as well as other variables they could've considered like past experience with certain players as Mafia together, who they consider threats in sniffing them out, etc. I doubt the decision was made based solely on the thought of who is going to live the longest.

 

For instance, even if we all collectively were able to narrow down to a pool of say 4-6 players we all agreed were 'strong' we could still be wrong on all of them (although statistically any random group of 4 should yield at least one Mafia) and instead of lynching Mafia we've killed all our better players more so out of paranoia that they would've been picked because of their skill level in fooling others.

I noted Aj's level of concern. And posting this way early is probably worth some village poitns. I stress it wouldn't have mattered as much if it had come later, but since it seems genuine I think it's fine if this looks good for him.

 

 

Right so Nyn is Town, sili would be in a tunnel except for that quick little backtrack on page 1 and AJ is looking townish.

 

 

 

Sili  a) dont link us together please.

 

b) if im a weak player explain my success rate as mafia. I get mislynched as town much more then i get lynched as mafia. But weak or strong is crap. AJ is a good player yet I once caught him because of like his second post in a game. Verbal is good but leelou picks him out pretty easily. Everybody has weaknesses. Everybody has strengths. And you can get caught even thru your strengths. Oh aND YES players DO get lynched for their strengths here.

This is basically how Dice was reacting to me last game, which ended a couple days ago. Probably doesn't come out with a broom ready to bash my skull in if he's scum, or if he tries, it probably comes out more awkward.

 

Town read is predicated on him posting like this towards the end of the day.

 

 

Sili you're coming across really cagey to me right now. On the last page it seems you were pressing Thane for reads from the discussion. What did you gather from it?

Seems reminiscent of Aj's progression in my last game with him. Just eerily similar how something catches his eye, and he continues to fos them in an rhetorical manner. It's too bad I don't remember it better.

 

 

Agree with this post. I think it's dangerous to "Pigeone hole" any p-layer this early in the game. The entire discussion could really not lead to much more than confusion and muddying up the thread.  Gonna read more before I vote. 

 

 

Vote?

 

 

The variance comes from the original Mafia member's opinion on the player pool to select from as well as other variables they could've considered like past experience with certain players as Mafia together, who they consider threats in sniffing them out, etc. I doubt the decision was made based solely on the thought of who is going to live the longest.

 

For instance, even if we all collectively were able to narrow down to a pool of say 4-6 players we all agreed were 'strong' we could still be wrong on all of them (although statistically any random group of 4 should yield at least one Mafia) and instead of lynching Mafia we've killed all our better players more so out of paranoia that they would've been picked because of their skill level in fooling others.

People pick the players they like to play with.  I know I do when I have had a role that requires choosing my team.  I just pick the people I enjoy being in a QT with.  Like if Boo Boo was playing. I would pick him to be iun my QT. 

 

You sure?

 

I'm unsure about your alignment. I wish I could remember your meta.

 

No use talking about who we think is "strong" or "weak".  All it will do is get people defensive for being picked as strong, or defensive for NOT being picked as strong.

 

Reading the first few pages, it is not easy to get initial reads.  Based on Sili's opening posts, the responses by people like Nyn, AJ, and Nolder are very easily made by town or scum - therefore, I'm marking that entire discussion as null.

 

Start over.

 

Who has not checked in yet?

Though I disagree with your assertion, I think this is a verbal stance to take: a touch of authoritarian with familiarity of the crowd. It leads the thread rather than takes a back seat to it.

 

I believe the discussion isn't a wash because most players took this opportunity to form reads rather than talk about mechanics. I think that's useful. People like leelou didn't, and she's a suspect for it. What people say, and what they don't, the progression of their posts, are very important to me.

 

 

After last game I won´t say "I won´t vote Sili ever" again (even though he had not been recruited when I said that), but I think this is town Sili. The comments about who would be picked as mafia didn´t really tell me anything but Sili is trying to start the game and is ready to hunt, which I think is typical town Sili. 

I´m using all of the games that I have played with Sili for my meta read on him (including last game).

 

The post strikes me as a continuation of her last game. My energy and tone is basically the same and the read doesn't strike me as odd.

 

Pretty sure scum tina eschews more of her read too (if the objective is town cred.) or doesn't make one at all.

 

 

 

No use talking about who we think is "strong" or "weak". All it will do is get people defensive for being picked as strong, or defensive for NOT being picked as strong.

Reading the first few pages, it is not easy to get initial reads. Based on Sili's opening posts, the responses by people like Nyn, AJ, and Nolder are very easily made by town or scum - therefore, I'm marking that entire discussion as null.

Start over.

Who has not checked in yet?

Mainly I'm in agreement with Verbs first part here

So you don't agree that the posts could have been made by either alignment?

 

Kaylee on the ball.

 

Sili, it's early game. Please, take a chill pill, have a break, calm down and come back, ok? No need to react like this. Your post has got the game going, which is good. Now, let's go with the flow, and see what heppens, alright?

My gut says he's pushing an angle, the way he goes on about it like I were demented for being vocal. Like an overreaction to my overreaction, with the effect of undercutting my opinion by reducing it to an emotional appeal.

 

(It's thane though)

 

So i'm just noting this and will figure out what to do with him over the course of the day. So far he's been lackluster and he doesn't have the excuse of being busy. Like he's floating, not saying anything, but I can't say the slow progression is irregular yet.

 

 

Extraneous

 

 

 

I dont witch hunt lol. How the hell is that still ur take away frpm the idea lol!? Stop taking what i said as something its not

Not my bloody fault other ppl cant read ppl if they think too hard. It shld be okay as anything is with the demonatration of a little common sense.

[directed at aj since i cant refresh on a phone.]

Lol why are you so mad?

How are you taking away that I said you specifically were looking to witch hunt? My point was that if we started down that avenue it could've easily became that and likely would have.

A spark is all that's needed to create a wildfire, whether that was your intention or not.

 

 

I never wanted a witch hunt and I would have never let that happen, and I don't understand how my words could incite one.

 

 

 

 

 

I quoted the dialoge between AJ and Kaylee. AJ - so you are not worried about Kaylee anymore?

I have her more as null than anything. I think Verb's commentary on the subject had merit that I didn't consider previously.

Do you think I should be more concerned? The way your question is worded seems a bit insinuating.

 

 

This conversation felt weird to me. It felt like you were going to press Kayle and then you kind of "gave up to easy" after Kaylee had re-posted an earlier post. What post from Verbal was it? 

 

I've heard a classic town tell of tina's is loaded questions. Re. bolded.

[The Crusher]

what do you mean by cagey?

 

On thane, it makes sense he wouldn't have much to say, but his first post was very sure-footed and I can't say I like that. At this point I'm just trying to see the town in him.

I would like to hear Andre answer to this as well. 

[Sili Quirrels]

gotta go soon.

 

short reads recap

 

>90% town

tina

nold

dice

 

>85% town

Kaylee

 

>80% town

verb

aj

 

>75% town

nyn

hali

Crusher

 

 

<60% town

leelou

thane

 

some people i haven't mentioned yet, but w/e.

[Sili Quirrels]

right, red. i'm pegging red down as >80% for her insightful (go-getter) post. not sure if it's a legit read though. it will probably be in flux.

[Red2111]

right, red. i'm pegging red down as >80% for her insightful (go-getter) post. not sure if it's a legit read though. it will probably be in flux.

 

still waiting on that response dude

[Red2111]

i also laughed at how you have me apparently down as more than 80% town lean, yet threw dirt on my thoughts by labeling it as a "go-getter" post.
  (basically i took that as you accusing me of trying to appear active while just parroting others thoughts, which is a false accusation)

[Nolder]

 

I like Nolder's posts so far.

 

What exactly do you like about his posts? Can you be more specific? He has two. One of them has no actual content. The other one is the mass of quotes he was replying to.

 

IMO, It wasn't a bad post, really. He touched on some things AJ and I were saying. Though I'm not sure how I feel about him saying he might let flavor affect his decisions a bit... cause it's fun. He hasn't really struck me as a jokey yolo player from what I've seen of him. So seems a little out of place to me. Otherwise seems kinda nullish so I'm curious what gave you good feels about it.

 

If you think I'm not a jokey yolo player you haven't played with me enough lol.

 

I do play tryhard most of the time but that wont stop me from doing stupid things that I know are stupid.

I hate to make another reference to MTG (I must be in the mood to play and not realize it) but if you read the article I linked earlier I am a Johnny or maybe a Johnny/Spike. I like to express myself through my game which is why I like making mafia setups even ones I never run because I KNOW they are bad. To take the analogy back to MTG I used to spend hours and hours making decks I would never play with because just putting them together was fun for me. And to take it back to mafia I love, as most people do, making bold maneuvers and getting away with them. When I'm scum I like to craft the biggest lie possible and just go for it. The best example of this is a Star Wars game I was in years ago now where I claimed to be Darth Vader iirc and argued my way out of being lynched for a couple days. Doesn't mean I go around doing that stuff all the time but when I feel like the moment is right I love it.

 

You don't have to take my word for it though, you'll see eventually if we play enough games together.

[Nolder]

Ok I'm caught up. 

There's nothing to comment on really imo.

Everyone is still just going on about Sili's idea and what they think others would think and blah blah blah.

 

Moving past that, Tina kind of had a cold opening was hoping for a bit more from her.

Verbal is on top of his game today imo gonna keep eyes on him.

Andrej is moving back into my null pile. Sorry dude you just look like you're piggybacking off what other people are saying.

I'm worried about Hallia this is the type of behavior she has when scum imo. A hit and run.

Crusher and Red both had typical posts but glad to see they aren't MIA.

 

Hmm after thinking about it only two people I'm worried about right now are Thane and Dice.

Thane I just haven't seen anything notable from whatsoever and Dice got kind of defensive over the "strong/weak" thing.

Which to be fair could have been just a natural reaction to being called weak.

 

I'm going to vote Thane for now and see where that goes.

 

[v]Thane[/v]

[Andrej]

@Nolder - I'm okay with that. As you said yourself there isn't really a ton to mention without going over something already said. Idk if I would call it piggybacking so much as having similar conclusions.

[Andrej]

 

 

what do you mean by cagey?

 

On thane, it makes sense he wouldn't have much to say, but his first post was very sure-footed and I can't say I like that. At this point I'm just trying to see the town in him.

I would like to hear Andre answer to this as well.

?

[Niniel]

@Tina

 

 

 

 

After last game I won´t say "I won´t vote Sili ever" again (even though he had not been recruited when I said that), but I think this is town Sili. The comments about who would be picked as mafia didn´t really tell me anything but Sili is trying to start the game and is ready to hunt, which I think is typical town Sili.

Don't you think he could have posted this as any alignment? Especially early in the game, it is very easy to post "townie posts" when scum. It gets harder to do as the game evolves, but it is never easier than it is when people haven't even checked in yet.

Your post here basically functions as a CYA for you to be wrong on Sili, while buddying him at the same time. No bueno.

Another thing that bothered me was the ease which Kaylee was willing to roll with the idea.

Kind of expected though, right? Anybody labeled as "strong" is going to dislike the notion, and say so. Anybody labeled otherwise will probably like the idea regardless of their alignment:

1. if they are town, then they might see wisdom in clearing the "strong" players first, or people who easily fool them

2. if they are scum, then they like not being the center of attention early on and being able to blend in better with easy posts to make regardless of alignment

Basically, I don't like how Sili has spoon-fed easy posts for people to make regardless of alignment - it makes the first few pages of this game a complete crapshoot (with a few exceptions).

Not a bad post all together.

What were the few exceptions you saw?

I admit there's some validity to your statement about either alignment being okay with the idea if they were characterized as "weaker" that I hadn't considered. My thought on it more aligned with the idea that if Sili were just presenting a bad idea that scum could ride the momentum to pull down strong townies early on.

Mob mentality/witch hunt kinda thing.

 

 

Thanks. 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

I quoted the dialoge between AJ and Kaylee. AJ - so you are not worried about Kaylee anymore?

I have her more as null than anything. I think Verb's commentary on the subject had merit that I didn't consider previously.

Do you think I should be more concerned? The way your question is worded seems a bit insinuating.

This conversation felt weird to me. It felt like you were going to press Kayle and then you kind of "gave up to easy" after Kaylee had re-posted an earlier post. What post from Verbal was it?

It was more passing commentary on my part since we were on the topic. Initially it made me a bit wary but like I said previously I think Verb's observation had merit I hadn't thought of and made me reconsider my stance on it. The posts were like a page back. I'd pull them up more readily but I'm phone posting.

You didn't answer my question though.

Post it when you can.

 

If I think you should be conserned with Kaylee? That is up to you to decide. Do you think she is town? 

 

If I`m conserned with Kaylee? I have seen nothing scummy so far.

I have her as null currently.

 

When you say that you've seen nothing scummy from her is it safe for me to assume that you have her in your town pile then? If so I'm curious as to why you've brought up this line of questioning.

 

To what purpose do you think I would be letting her off easily? You're making a lot of implicit sort of connections, which I think is pretty suspect.

 

 

I didn´t have a connection between you in mind. More like you tried to see what would happen if you put some preassure on Kaylee but then you backed down quick. Now I get what you mean with Verb´s post. I´m not sure if I´m feeling better about it though. You tried something, got critique, then backed down. Easier to follow Verb? 

 

I´m having a hard time putting words on my feelings. I did get a good feeling from your posts initially when you criticised Sili´s idea of mafia picking "strong" players. But then you kind of stayed there and went over board with it. Like it would be Sili´s fault if people started to vote that way - which you can see no one has. And then it was this thing with Kaylee. Sorry, can´t explain it better. It´s a feeling, but it´s based on how you have written your posts. Testing . . . see if it works . . . move on.  And that OMGUS vote didn´t look good. 

 

[v] AJ [/v]

 

 

Thoughts so far: 

 

1. Verbal32 - is interested in the game and isn´t just spamming. Town read.

2. Sili Quirrels - the way he has posted a lot, not been afraid of starting the game makes me think he is town.

3. Thane Vakarian - I agree with those of you that voted Thane. The problem is that I saw the same behaviour last game and then he was town. Definitely on the fence. 

4. Hallia - nothing to comment on. 

5. Nolder - the flavour thing that Nyn pointed out was strange and what does it mean that I have a "cold opening"? 

6. TinaHel

7. The Crusher - nothing to comment on.

8. Nynaeve - good posts so far. 

9. Leelou - waiting to hear more from her. Nyn pointed out that it was weird that she had a town feeling from Nolder when he hadn´t written much. 

10. Kaylee - town feeling because I can understand where she is coming from. 

11. Andrej - as you can see above, not a good feeling.

12. dicetosser1 - nothing so far.

13. Red2111 - I don´t agree with her read on Sili and I don´t know why she has Nolder as town. Why is that, Red?