Escape From The Carnival Of Horrors! Game Thread [Mafia Win]

[Andrej]

Good morning all.

[Thane Vakarian]

morning AJ *raises coffeemug in greeting*

[The Crusher]

Crusher, Verb, Nyn and Red I consider ask strong players.

 

 

Hmmmm. Very sweet but at the same time without any mention of Boo boo I have to question the intent of this post.  

[Andrej]

Just poured myself a mug. Cheers

 

Seems like we play at a slower pace nowadays. I think I might enjoy that considering my schedule. Now I won't have to spend hours doing catch ups at night lol

 

Not much on this page I really want to comment on. Still waiting for some to check in as it is

[The Crusher]

Need to read more in a bit.  I have confusion.

[Thane Vakarian]

slower pace admittedly is nice, indeed. And, as you said, some players still need to check in. Once everybody is in, the game can truely start

[Andrej]

Who is Boo Boo?

[Kaylee]

Hello

 

Feels good to be back in a Mafia game, I can feel the juices flowing already.

 

I'm with Nyn on this subject. Highly circumstantial and would vary person to person depending on how the randomization went. The part I don't like most specifically is suggesting the focus be on a certain group of players who are considered better than others while the remaining are theoretically given a pass.

I'm not caught up yet since I went to bed early but wanted to comment on this.

 

I personally have no plans to give anyone a pass. Sili's idea made sense to me in the fact that I always pay more attention to stronger players. As I said before they have the best chance at fooling me.

 

Secondly it made sense as it's something I'd do as a weaker player.

 

That said I basically don't trust anyone until I read them as town.

[Tommyrod]

D1.3 Vote Count

Nolder - 1 - Andrej
dicetosser1 - 1 - Hallia

Not Voting (11): dicetosser1, Kaylee, Leelou, Nolder, Nynaeve, Red2111, Sili Quirrels, Thane Vakarian, The Crusher, TinaHel, Verbal32

With 13 alive, it takes 7 to lynch.

 

[Kaylee]

 

I think Kaylee had a good opening, considering she seems to have been phone posting so you know... my 2c.

What makes you think she was phone posting and how is that even slightly relevent? lol

Agreed that it has no relevance m

[Cory Caboose]

Did you let the blues make you bad?

Did you get all twisted?

Did you get so drunk you whispered,

"I think I'm gonna die"?

Did you pass nights wondering

Why you never saw it coming?

Nobody ever sees it coming,

No exceptions at all.

 

 

Deadline has been set for 9:00 PM E/ST on 2/19.

 

Your fate is in your hands.

[Thane Vakarian]

alright, deadline set. Things will become interesting now, i hope. Gonna re-read the thread when i find some time.

[Sili Quirrels]

It's relevant to me. It does change your posting style.

[Cory Caboose]

D1.4 Vote Count

Nolder (1): Andrej
dicetosser1 (1): Hallia
Not Voting (11): dicetosser1, Kaylee, Leelou, Nolder, Nynaeve, Red2111, Sili Quirrels, Thane Vakarian, The Crusher, TinaHel, Verbal32

With 13 alive, it takes 7 to lynch.

[Andrej]

Sili you're coming across really cagey to me right now. On the last page it seems you were pressing Thane for reads from the discussion. What did you gather from it?

[Sili Quirrels]

what do you mean by cagey?

 

On thane, it makes sense he wouldn't have much to say, but his first post was very sure-footed and I can't say I like that. At this point I'm just trying to see the town in him.

[Kaylee]

 

 

Crusher, Verb, Nyn and Red I consider ask strong players.

 

Hmmmm. Very sweet but at the same time without any mention of Boo boo I have to question the intent of this post.

Whose Boo boo?

[Kaylee]

Ok so now that I'm caught up I'm liking Nyn, Nol and AJ so far as town.

 

Like last game Nyn has the ability to fool me so keeping an eye there.

[The Crusher]

 

 

Hello

 

Feels good to be back in a Mafia game, I can feel the juices flowing already.

 

I'm with Nyn on this subject. Highly circumstantial and would vary person to person depending on how the randomization went. The part I don't like most specifically is suggesting the focus be on a certain group of players who are considered better than others while the remaining are theoretically given a pass.

 

Bolded for edification because I don't want to be represented as saying something I haven't. I never at all advocate giving anybody a pass. If dice comes in and lurks in a significant way, I'm all for lynching him. But conversely, since players here want (I emphasize want) to pick players like nyn, I'll be paying close attention to what they say because in that direction there is more scum more often to be found than in other directions.

 

So the mafia recruits before the rand. Then the stronger the mafia player the more tempting the recruit is, so I think it's good to discern their allignments first. I think most people pick at least reasonably competent mafia players as their partners, so commonly held weaker players should get less attention today (i.e. me and dice) since our rand chance is 1 in 13.

 

I think this approach puts the most pressure on people like nyn, but I think that's for the best. We just need to be cognissant that individuals who are good at being scum are more likely to be scum in this set up. Though this isn't to say we don't take out scummy players if we spot any.

 

 

You essentially are suggesting that some players be less looked at or pressured because, iyo, the subjectively stronger players are more likely to be picked more often. Furthermore, I don't understand why you and Dice (specifically in this case) deserve less attention because of your 1/13 odds of being the original Mafia member. Everyone's odds of being the original are 1/13 so perhaps you can help edify there as well.

 

Overall I think it's just a bad direction to go in because of the variance it holds and for the likely outcome of it promoting in-fighting as people argue over who is subjectively stronger, etc. If you personally want to focus on a group of players to develop your reads, then fine, but suggesting it in this matter reads to me as a little angle-shooty and narrative-y. And taking into consideration you might just genuinely find this strategy optimal, I think it gives the potential for Mafia to eliminate strong players they could see as threats early on.

 

Agree with this post. I think it's dangerous to "Pigeone hole" any p-layer this early in the game. The entire discussion could really not lead to much more than confusion and muddying up the thread.  Gonna read more before I vote. 

[Sili Quirrels]

What did u like about them?

[Tommyrod]

 

Did you let the blues make you bad?

Did you get all twisted?

Did you get so drunk you whispered,

"I think I'm gonna die"?

Did you pass nights wondering

Why you never saw it coming?

Nobody ever sees it coming,

No exceptions at all.

 

 

Deadline has been set for 9:00 PM E/ST on 2/19.

 

Your fate is in your hands.

[The Crusher]

The variance comes from the original Mafia member's opinion on the player pool to select from as well as other variables they could've considered like past experience with certain players as Mafia together, who they consider threats in sniffing them out, etc. I doubt the decision was made based solely on the thought of who is going to live the longest.

 

For instance, even if we all collectively were able to narrow down to a pool of say 4-6 players we all agreed were 'strong' we could still be wrong on all of them (although statistically any random group of 4 should yield at least one Mafia) and instead of lynching Mafia we've killed all our better players more so out of paranoia that they would've been picked because of their skill level in fooling others.

People pick the players they like to play with.  I know I do when I have had a role that requires choosing my team.  I just pick the people I enjoy being in a QT with.  Like if Boo Boo was playing. I would pick him to be iun my QT. 

[Sili Quirrels]

 

 

 

Hello

Feels good to be back in a Mafia game, I can feel the juices flowing already.

I'm with Nyn on this subject. Highly circumstantial and would vary person to person depending on how the randomization went. The part I don't like most specifically is suggesting the focus be on a certain group of players who are considered better than others while the remaining are theoretically given a pass.

 

 

Bolded for edification because I don't want to be represented as saying something I haven't. I never at all advocate giving anybody a pass. If dice comes in and lurks in a significant way, I'm all for lynching him. But conversely, since players here want (I emphasize want) to pick players like nyn, I'll be paying close attention to what they say because in that direction there is more scum more often to be found than in other directions.

 

So the mafia recruits before the rand. Then the stronger the mafia player the more tempting the recruit is, so I think it's good to discern their allignments first. I think most people pick at least reasonably competent mafia players as their partners, so commonly held weaker players should get less attention today (i.e. me and dice) since our rand chance is 1 in 13.

I think this approach puts the most pressure on people like nyn, but I think that's for the best. We just need to be cognissant that individuals who are good at being scum are more likely to be scum in this set up. Though this isn't to say we don't take out scummy players if we spot any.

 

 

You essentially are suggesting that some players be less looked at or pressured because, iyo, the subjectively stronger players are more likely to be picked more often. Furthermore, I don't understand why you and Dice (specifically in this case) deserve less attention because of your 1/13 odds of being the original Mafia member. Everyone's odds of being the original are 1/13 so perhaps you can help edify there as well.

 

Overall I think it's just a bad direction to go in because of the variance it holds and for the likely outcome of it promoting in-fighting as people argue over who is subjectively stronger, etc. If you personally want to focus on a group of players to develop your reads, then fine, but suggesting it in this matter reads to me as a little angle-shooty and narrative-y. And taking into consideration you might just genuinely find this strategy optimal, I think it gives the potential for Mafia to eliminate strong players they could see as threats early on.

Agree with this post. I think it's dangerous to "Pigeone hole" any p-layer this early in the game. The entire discussion could really not lead to much more than confusion and muddying up the thread.  Gonna read more before I vote.

It drove content for a while and got reactions. Im happy with that.

[Sili Quirrels]

 

The variance comes from the original Mafia member's opinion on the player pool to select from as well as other variables they could've considered like past experience with certain players as Mafia together, who they consider threats in sniffing them out, etc. I doubt the decision was made based solely on the thought of who is going to live the longest.

 

For instance, even if we all collectively were able to narrow down to a pool of say 4-6 players we all agreed were 'strong' we could still be wrong on all of them (although statistically any random group of 4 should yield at least one Mafia) and instead of lynching Mafia we've killed all our better players more so out of paranoia that they would've been picked because of their skill level in fooling others.

 

People pick the players they like to play with.  I know I do when I have had a role that requires choosing my team.  I just pick the people I enjoy being in a QT with.  Like if Boo Boo was playing. I would pick him to be iun my QT.

Apparently not everyone thinks the same.

[Verbal32]

No use talking about who we think is "strong" or "weak".  All it will do is get people defensive for being picked as strong, or defensive for NOT being picked as strong.

 

Reading the first few pages, it is not easy to get initial reads.  Based on Sili's opening posts, the responses by people like Nyn, AJ, and Nolder are very easily made by town or scum - therefore, I'm marking that entire discussion as null.

 

Start over.

 

Who has not checked in yet?