[Basic] Lolcats: zOMGby Apocalypse - Game Over - Town Win

[Nolder]

 

So I was thrown off by Nyn/Verb being mafia and I've had to readjust my views.

Looking at the two lynch trains though I'm gonna conclude that Pral is the last mafia. If not then I think it's Sili.

If it isn't either of them then I'm having a bad game lol.

 

[v]Pral[/v]

Thoughts on Kaylee?

 

They were on both lynches in the middle. Opinions on the game seem relatively lost and speculative.

Nothing in particular stands out. If they're scum they're doing exactly what they're supposed to which is blend in.

Like Tina said about worrying about a GF, I'd rather tackle people who're standing out more than tinfoil about someone masterfully blending into the middle.

If it comes to that I'll take a closer look but right now I have them down as townie.

 

 

So I was thrown off by Nyn/Verb being mafia and I've had to readjust my views.

Looking at the two lynch trains though I'm gonna conclude that Pral is the last mafia. If not then I think it's Sili.

If it isn't either of them then I'm having a bad game lol.

 

[v]Pral[/v]

Last mafia?

 

And yeah, you are having a bad game.

 

Oops I forgot Lily wasn't actually mafia LOL.

 

And yeah I could be. One way or another we'll find out pretty soon I think.

 

And, D1 is fine. ..You think I led the lynch on Lily.

 

But, how does D2 tell you anything about me?

Not being on any train is bad. It means you're not taking a stand and therefore can't be held accountable for anything. The fact that the lynch that day was on mafia looks even worse to me.

[Nolder]

 

So I was thrown off by Nyn/Verb being mafia and I've had to readjust my views.

Looking at the two lynch trains though I'm gonna conclude that Pral is the last mafia. If not then I think it's Sili.

If it isn't either of them then I'm having a bad game lol.

 

[v]Pral[/v]

 

Reasons? Because he was the first one to vote Lily?

Also because he didn't even vote when we lynched Nyn/Verb yesterday.

[Nolder]

See Leelou, it's the difference between blending in by being uninteresting (no offense girls) and what could be construed as an active attempt at going under the radar.

For all Kaylee and Tress knows anything they say can blow up into a big discussion. Every vote, every post, etc. Something like not voting seems more like an attempt to hide than anything else. In comparison Pralaya looks more like the mafia trying to hide to me.

[Niniel]

Was he around? Was it Pral time zone? I don´t have the time to go back and check right now. 

[Leelou]

Nol - Thoughts on the over helpfulness from the beginning?

 

This is why I really don't care for hydras. They were fun for a short time, but really they shouldn't be a long term thing. Makes it too hard to read a person.

[Niniel]

 

 

 

 

 

 

Dice just followed Nyn´s case on Thane, which looked really scummy. But he unvoted when Thane was at L-2. Town or pretending to be? I don´t get why he is voting Leelou today without any explanation. I´m not sure why he abandoned Sili.

 

 

 

actually Nyns case had nothing to do with it. I had already asked him what I didnt like about his catch up post but the vote came because of something he did just before.

 

 

Today is going to be really busy for me, I'm going on vacation tomorrow and have a lot to get done in the office. I'll try to pop on during lunch and read some.

 

Dice, any particular reason?

 

Why at the end of the day with a cop view were you the only person, besides theem of course to NOT be voting verb/nyn?

 

 

Coming back to this post. Why have you dropped Sili?

[Nolder]

Was he around? Was it Pral time zone? I don´t have the time to go back and check right now. 

Maybe not but I didn't think we did the lynch that fast. I thought he had time to check in. I'd have to double check though and see if he even posted.

 

Nol - Thoughts on the over helpfulness from the beginning?

 

This is why I really don't care for hydras. They were fun for a short time, but really they shouldn't be a long term thing. Makes it too hard to read a person.

1. Dunno what you mean by over helpfulness. Can you elaborate?

 

2. Told you guys. :P

[Niniel]

The rest of my re-read will have to wait until tomorrow. This is hard. 

[Leelou]

 

Was he around? Was it Pral time zone? I don´t have the time to go back and check right now. 

Maybe not but I didn't think we did the lynch that fast. I thought he had time to check in. I'd have to double check though and see if he even posted.

 

Nol - Thoughts on the over helpfulness from the beginning?

 

This is why I really don't care for hydras. They were fun for a short time, but really they shouldn't be a long term thing. Makes it too hard to read a person.

1. Dunno what you mean by over helpfulness. Can you elaborate?

 

2. Told you guys. :P

 

 

Kaylee was answering every possible question that came up near the beginning of the game. 

[dicetosser1]

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Dice just followed Nyn´s case on Thane, which looked really scummy. But he unvoted when Thane was at L-2. Town or pretending to be? I don´t get why he is voting Leelou today without any explanation. I´m not sure why he abandoned Sili.

 

 

 

actually Nyns case had nothing to do with it. I had already asked him what I didnt like about his catch up post but the vote came because of something he did just before.

 

 

Today is going to be really busy for me, I'm going on vacation tomorrow and have a lot to get done in the office. I'll try to pop on during lunch and read some.

 

Dice, any particular reason?

 

Why at the end of the day with a cop view were you the only person, besides theem of course to NOT be voting verb/nyn?

 

 

Coming back to this post. Why have you dropped Sili?

 

 

I haven't. That doesn't mean im gonna not pay attention and do something about things that catch my attention.

[dicetosser1]

all right what leelou said checks out.

 

 

unvote vote sili

 

all my previous plus he seemed slow and reluctant to vote a cop claimed guilt despite being around. Only hammered pages after the claim yet had been around in the interveneing pages, even going so far as to call out to nyn/verb to answer for their crimes and tell us your teammates. i think that particular post was overdone

[Songstress]

Trying to get a few thoughts out there during my lunch break... internet connection on my phone is spotty within the building and typing on the phone takes forever (and copy/paste is the next thing to impossible) so this will be less than intensive. I've asked Kaylee to try to pull some specifics later if she has time, otherwise I'll get back to it when I get home from her parents' house later.

 

Who we have left:

Sili

Kaytress

Thane

Leelou

Tina

Dice

Pral

Nol

 

Tina I believe without question.

 

Nol is a very strong town lean and (aside from Tina) the one I am most comfortable clearing as town.

 

Dice I've had a lot of experience playing with, and I can't recall a time when he legitimately fooled me. Regardless of how poor some people may characterize his arguments as being, this reads like TownDice to me, and I am not interested in lynching him without a good reason.

 

Pral is an absolute null. Of the content he's posted, I feel confident saying that I could see him saying the exact same thing as either town or mafia. I do have an inkling that he's not the best lynch for today.

 

Thane is a possibility for mafia, but if we have a 2-person scum team i don't see Verb/Nyn going after him the way they did. If it's a 3-person team distancing is possible, but I suspect it's more likely their teammate is someone they mostly ignored. If we have 2 mafia + a survivor, which is possible in a basic of this size, I could see him as 3rd party. Not my priority for today in any case.

 

Sili as I've said before always comes across as scummy to me, probably due to his tendency to say things that would never occur to me as being a good idea to say as either alignment. Tina does have a better ability to read him and I am willing to go along with her here. I'm glad she has some question based on his reactions to her reveal and Nyn's fake claim, because both bother me. If there are 3 mafia i can definitely see him in the mix.

 

Leelou I've had reservations about since the beginning. I looked back through the early part of the game to see her interactions with Verb and Nyn, and there's less there than I expect from her as town - it doesn't appear to me that she made an effort to figure out their alignment, and as I recall she didn't weigh in on their lynch until after the hammer, and then mostly questioned Tina's rationale for viewing them. The push she's made against Kaylee (and myself ) doesn't feel genuine to me, regardless of the fact that I know we're town. Kay is going to look at this further, find specific posts, etc. and we'll talk about it later if she has further input, but my preference is to vote here.

[dicetosser1]

tress  in the interest of fairnes and lolz!  I did fool you once.....and womby got the bullet lmao

[Nolder]

Kaylee was answering every possible question that came up near the beginning of the game. 

And you think that reflected badly on her? Or you're asking me what I think of that?

 

If I thought it was something worth worrying about I would have said something by now.

My guess is it's just someone who's talkative and/or overanxious to play.

Doesn't seem that abnormal to me.

[Nolder]

Btw, can we agree to give the hammer to Tina?

If we run someone up to L-1 she can either drop the hammer or tell us to back down because it's the person she has an innocent read on.

Anyone else that hammers would be mafia.

 

Thoughts?

[Leelou]

Btw, can we agree to give the hammer to Tina?

If we run someone up to L-1 she can either drop the hammer or tell us to back down because it's the person she has an innocent read on.

Anyone else that hammers would be mafia.

 

Thoughts?

Works for me.

[Songstress]

tress in the interest of fairnes and lolz! I did fool you once.....and womby got the bullet lmao

I talked myself out of being suspicious of you for a while because mafia hadn't blocked me N1. Then I realized later that it would have been a dead giveaway if they had.

 

And I shoulda shot Nolder like i originally wanted to

[Songstress]

Btw, can we agree to give the hammer to Tina?

If we run someone up to L-1 she can either drop the hammer or tell us to back down because it's the person she has an innocent read on.

Anyone else that hammers would be mafia.

 

Thoughts?

I like it.

[Kaylee]

Btw, can we agree to give the hammer to Tina?

If we run someone up to L-1 she can either drop the hammer or tell us to back down because it's the person she has an innocent read on.

Anyone else that hammers would be mafia.

 

Thoughts?

Fine with me. At the park with the kids. When i get home I'll get those quotes Tress mentioned.

[dicetosser1]

im fine with tina hammering but only cause its hybrid

[Kaylee]

The posts of Lee's are the one asking me if I think she's town after doing her ISO of me. In there she asks why the speed lynch would have happened. I had already explained why (the fact that there's only 10 players and with two already voting with a fake claim against her)...that and if not everyone had read the rules fully, as she's admitted she hasn't, then a speed lynch is very possible.

The other post of her's that bothers me is where she talks about me making a stink about Pral being voted last minuet and asks me who scum. For that posts it's more gut that bothers me. First off, as I've said already, I didn't get why a new train should start 2.5 hours until deadline. I had questioned her and Nol about it.

So mostly gut there. Most likely to vote Thane since there's more evidence against him.

  

 

This was my thoughts on Lee yesterday. Wanted to start with this to add to my point. First off there's the stuff Tress pointed out recently about interactions with Leelou and Nyn/Verb. Second is the quote above. Weak reasoning on her part. (Asking about why I would be concerned about her being speed lynched when I had already explained it.)

 

 

 

So, I'm still feeling iffy about Kaylee.  Waiting to see what Tress bring to the table.  Pral's case on Lily was good, imo, even if ultimately he was wrong. Still nullish because he needs to post more, but he's leaning more towards my townie pile. Looking forward to see his overall reads to form a more solid read on him. 

 

As far as Lily goes, she did look shady imo. Kinda hard to tell with her when she's actually scum or when she makes weird choices as a townie. 

 

 

What I have noticed and kinda bugs me is some of Thane's posts where I feel he's abusing his tendency to get mislynched. This puts me in a bit of a weird position where I actually have to agree with Sili lol  I'll pull up the quotes to demonstrate what I mean.

 

 

 

 

That's fine - I'm more interested in her response to what I mentioned above, though.

 

What about Kaylee?  I'm on the fence about whether her "helpfulness" with the N0 rules was honestly trying to correct, or going for town cred.

 

 

My 2 top town reads are Sili and Dice, honorable mention to Nolder.  Light town on you (Leelou) and the rest form my suspect pile.

 

 

One thing interesting I noted in both their posts was talking about Kaylee abruptly in the middle of their conversations. Maybe it is a confirmation bias, because I had Kaylee in my scum list, but I think they were distancing each other quite early.

 

 

The bold here is what I'm addressing. So a known scummer makes mention of my slot "abruptly in the middle of their conversation". Makes more sense to do that to frame someone.

 

 

 

 

 

So I was thrown off by Nyn/Verb being mafia and I've had to readjust my views.

Looking at the two lynch trains though I'm gonna conclude that Pral is the last mafia. If not then I think it's Sili.

If it isn't either of them then I'm having a bad game lol.[v]Pral[/v]

Thoughts on Kaylee?

 

 

Lol Why ask his thoughts on me? Just seems odd to me.

 

 

 

Nol - Thoughts on the over helpfulness from the beginning?

This is why I really don't care for hydras. They were fun for a short time, but really they shouldn't be a long term thing. Makes it too hard to read a person.

 

 

Ok, we have a flipped scum and your going after me for stuff from D1? Weak things even? Lol Feels like you're reaching.

 

 

 

 

 

 

Was he around? Was it Pral time zone? I don´t have the time to go back and check right now.

 

Maybe not but I didn't think we did the lynch that fast. I thought he had time to check in. I'd have to double check though and see if he even posted.

 

Nol - Thoughts on the over helpfulness from the beginning?

This is why I really don't care for hydras. They were fun for a short time, but really they shouldn't be a long term thing. Makes it too hard to read a person.

 

1. Dunno what you mean by over helpfulness. Can you elaborate?

 

2. Told you guys. :P

 

Kaylee was answering every possible question that came up near the beginning of the game.

Oh no she's been helpful, must be Nyn's scummate! Lol

 

Think we found another one. [v]Leelou[/v]

[Leelou]

I've had a really bad feeling about you since Day 1 and not much has really changed that. I always get a bit jumpy when someone tries to stop a lynch on me so early in the game. So I asked someone who I'm leaning town on right now to weigh in and give his thoughts. 

 

 

 

 

I know I haven't been around much, sorry guys, I didn't realize the game would take this long. I'm on vacation until Monday and I'm not sure how my internet will be where I am. I'm going to try to pump out a few ISO's in the morning now that the site is functioning again. 

[Kaylee]

Leelou I've had reservations about since the beginning. I looked back through the early part of the game to see her interactions with Verb and Nyn, and there's less there than I expect from her as town - it doesn't appear to me that she made an effort to figure out their alignment, and as I recall she didn't weigh in on their lynch until after the hammer, and then mostly questioned Tina's rationale for viewing them. The push she's made against Kaylee (and myself ) doesn't feel genuine to me, regardless of the fact that I know we're town. Kay is going to look at this further, find specific posts, etc. and we'll talk about it later if she has further input, but my preference is to vote here.

Lee: care to comment on the bold?

[Nolder]

I've had a really bad feeling about you since Day 1 and not much has really changed that. I always get a bit jumpy when someone tries to stop a lynch on me so early in the game. So I asked someone who I'm leaning town on right now to weigh in and give his thoughts. 

 

 

 

 

I know I haven't been around much, sorry guys, I didn't realize the game would take this long. I'm on vacation until Monday and I'm not sure how my internet will be where I am. I'm going to try to pump out a few ISO's in the morning now that the site is functioning again. 

To be fair to what you're saying, this is an impression I got earlier in the game.

Would you like me to take a second look at it? I don't usually focus on people I already wrote off as town.

[Sili Quirrels]

 

So, I'm still feeling iffy about Kaylee.  Waiting to see what Tress bring to the table.  Pral's case on Lily was good, imo, even if ultimately he was wrong. Still nullish because he needs to post more, but he's leaning more towards my townie pile. Looking forward to see his overall reads to form a more solid read on him. 

 

As far as Lily goes, she did look shady imo. Kinda hard to tell with her when she's actually scum or when she makes weird choices as a townie. 

 

 

What I have noticed and kinda bugs me is some of Thane's posts where I feel he's abusing his tendency to get mislynched. This puts me in a bit of a weird position where I actually have to agree with Sili lol  I'll pull up the quotes to demonstrate what I mean.

 

 

 

That's fine - I'm more interested in her response to what I mentioned above, though.

 

What about Kaylee?  I'm on the fence about whether her "helpfulness" with the N0 rules was honestly trying to correct, or going for town cred.

 

 

My 2 top town reads are Sili and Dice, honorable mention to Nolder.  Light town on you (Leelou) and the rest form my suspect pile.

 

One thing interesting I noted in both their posts was talking about Kaylee abruptly in the middle of their conversations. Maybe it is a confirmation bias, because I had Kaylee in my scum list, but I think they were distancing each other quite early. 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Deadline: Friday 2/6 12pm (Noon) CST 1HR from this post or when someone has 6+ votes

 

Vote Count

 

Dice (1/10): Tina

Lily (5/10): Pral, Kaytress, Leelou, Verboobra, Thane

Sili (1/10): dice

Pral (1/10): Nol

Thane (1/10): Sili

 

No Lynch(1/10): Lily

Lily, an innocent kitteh just tryin to make it in dis wurld has been lunched

 

its nao night. night ends Monday @11am CST or when i get all NA's

So, yeah, today's lynch has to be one of the 5 on Lily's wagon. Pretty much at least a scum is in there.

 

Out of all the votes, Kaylee's vote looks out of place for me.

 

 

Out of the three trains I don't want to vote for Sili as I feel he's likely town. I'll try ISO Lily and Dice. I feel Dice's orignal case was genuine but I'll have to look at his other posts. I know Lily started out just agreeing with Dice.

Out of Dice and Lily I'll vote Lily. Dice is typically quiet and lurking as scum. So far this game he's gone after Sili and continued it even though it's not the popular thought. Reading his posts in ISO makes it really seem he believes Sili is scum. Tunneling a bit but he seems to believe it.

These two posts looks a bit forced to me. First, why would she want to "chose" from the three trains? Second, it was more of an elimination process that she voted Lily. At least, didn;t look like she believed Lily was scum, or did she?

Wasn't sure on Lily and if you look at time stamps it was close to deadline and I didn't want a random.

 

 

Well, when you commented about "chosing", all the three trains had like 1 or 2 votes each, even though it was like 3 hrs from the deadline. So, it didn't mean you had to restrict your choices to the three trains. That is what it looked a bit forced to me.

 

 

No one's picking up on how these posts are good?

So I was thrown off by Nyn/Verb being mafia and I've had to readjust my views.

Looking at the two lynch trains though I'm gonna conclude that Pral is the last mafia. If not then I think it's Sili.

If it isn't either of them then I'm having a bad game lol.

 

[v]Pral[/v]

What made you change your mind about me? You think I try that gambit as scum?

 

 

Also because he didn't even vote when we lynched Nyn/Verb yesterday.

 

Yes, I agree with tina. This is a horrible reason and it doesn't even matter if he was around. The vote itself matters little

 

Thane probably the bst bet but I would be lying if I said I was still grounded in this game. I can sponge people if they make a good case I think.