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[Kaylee]

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I'm leaning towards Kaylee or Pral right now. Slightly uncomfortable with Tina. Lily actually voted early on D1? Hmm. Thane needs to say something. Dice seems like a doggie with his favorite squeak toy. Feeling okay with Nol. Reserving judgment on Nyn until the Ewok shows up. Sili is over in the town pile, but believe me I'm watching all of your reactions.

 

 

 

D1 reads has Pral and I a her scum reads. OK so far.

 

 

 

Kaylee

 

N0: Spam (which is fine), doesn't take part of the GF conversation and then starts with the helpfulness. 

 

D1: Continues helpfulness. Goes from thinking Sili is town to rethinking her lean to not sure. Finds Dice's case genuine, getting a town vibe from Tina.  Later she feels that Dice is different. Town lean on Nol. Questioned why Sili's read changed on Verb. Sort of mentioned Pral in passing. Has not mentioned Thane, Verboobnyn or Lily. 

 

Was worried I'd get speed lynched, which um thanks, but why would that have necessarily happened? Do you have a town lean on me?

 

 

 

Spoke on this quote already but she ISO'a me then questions why I was worried about a speed lynch on her. (I had explained why before this).

 

 

[v] Pral[/v]

 

 

Votes Pral 2.5 hours before deadline. OK since she has him as a scum lean but why wait until so close to deadline to start this train?

 

 

I don't like Thane's listings. 

 

I think I spoke enough about Pral, Lily and Kaylee throughout the day. I was uncomfortable with Lily voting as early as she did, it was out of character for her. Pral, major lack of content.

 

  

 

 

She mentions Thane which is not a big deal because he was getting heat already.

 

She restates why Pral and Lily and says she's talked enough about me already. (Actually she says all three but doesn't mention again the reason for me/Tress Which is for helpfulness I believe).

 

 

 

I doubt they didn't submit considering deadline was today at 11 am CST. 

 

Thane, you are not looking good here at all.

 

 

 

Again mentions Thane looking bad, and he was.

 

 

 

I'd like to hear from Pral.

 

 

 

Understandable.

 

 

 

[v]Thane[/v]

 

You've been digging yourself in a hole once you started going after Verb/Nyn. Also, why are you pushing so much about the lack of kill from last night?

 

 

 

More on Thane with a vote. Could be seen as defending Nyn/Verb but hard to say as Thane wad looking bad. (I'm thinking he's town since we now know Nyn/Verb are Zombie and a bus doesn't make sense here).

 

 

 

 

 

So I was thrown off by Nyn/Verb being mafia and I've had to readjust my views.

Looking at the two lynch trains though I'm gonna conclude that Pral is the last mafia. If not then I think it's Sili.

If it isn't either of them then I'm having a bad game lol.[v]Pral[/v]

Thoughts on Kaylee?

Asks a town read of her's thoughts on Kay/Tress helpfulness. Just seems odd. Weak case first off. Second is the fact that she quoted Nol voting Pral, her other top scum read, while asking about us and not Pral. If she was just wanting his opinion as a town read of her's why not just ask without quoting? Or why not also ask thoughts on her second scum lean Pral?

 

 

She hasn't as of this post mentioned him again. Do you still think he's scum? If so is it still due to lack of content?

 

If Tress/Kay are you're strongest scum lean why not vote us?

[Kaylee]

Sili: Thane is likely town as the biggest push against him was done by who flipped scum. Why bus in a small game? It doesn't make sense. Just my thoughts.

[Kaylee]

Sili, you are responding to pressure poorly with your bad attitude. No one is attacking you personally, just your play. Getting up in arms and calling people incompetent when they don't agree with your play does not help your case in any way. 

 

I'd like to know why you have Pral in your townish pile. Also, don't trust Kaylee yet. She's very good at faking town.

 

 

 

 

*DM mod hat*

You do need to edit that word out of your post, it is not allowed on DM. Dice, edit it out of your quote.

 

  

 

The bold stands out to me because I don't recall you ever saying anything about it before. In fact the last time we were scum together I was asking you to help make sure I was sounding townie.

 

 

 

 

 

 

I'd like to know why you have Pral in your townish pile. Also, don't trust Kaylee yet. She's very good at faking town.

 

 

^This. I actually feel pretty meh about her. She's like the 4th top poster but has very little in the sense of actual content.

 

To sum up what she's done:

- Voted yes to end N0 earlier.

- Answers for Lily when Sili is surprised that Lily isn't familiar with some mafia terms.

- Thanks dice for clarifying the term Seer.

- Chooses to step in and clarify to Thane that Verbal and I are Hydra so he was just joking and couldn't actually vote me.

- She interacts with Sili and says that games typically starts with dicking around but that there was some GF talk in the beginning.

- Steps in when Sili and Nolder are beating the grass with Leelou to quote the rule about N0 having no NA.

 

I am getting a bit of bad juju from her actions personally. There's a lot of helpfulness on the surface but it doesn't feel natural to me. And it's pretty useless. Talks of Mafia terms. Jumping in to interject to seem involved. And quoting that rule, which btw every player should have been aware of to begin with. This is not a town tell in my book. A confused townie could have posted it. Or a clever scummy that wants credit for pointing it out.

To the bold: Hmmm agreeing the same point. Again never heard that from Nyn before and she's a strong player.

 

To the blue: mentions the helpfulness angle. Sound familiar? Exact point Leelou was and is pushing!

 

I'm happy with my vote where it is.

[Sili Quirrels]

The last time I let a bus affect the town's judgement the game went to lylo and i had to fake claim to draw a night kill so we wouldn't lose. That's not happening again. You judge Thane by his own content and if he doesn't hold up then we lunch or peek him, imo.

[Kaylee]

The last time I let a bus affect the town's judgement the game went to lylo and i had to fake claim to draw a night kill so we wouldn't lose. That's not happening again. You judge Thane by his own content and if he doesn't hold up then we lunch or peek him, imo.

Fair enough.

[Pralaya]

 

 

So I was thrown off by Nyn/Verb being mafia and I've had to readjust my views.

Looking at the two lynch trains though I'm gonna conclude that Pral is the last mafia. If not then I think it's Sili.

If it isn't either of them then I'm having a bad game lol.

 

[v]Pral[/v]

Last mafia?

 

And yeah, you are having a bad game.

 

Oops I forgot Lily wasn't actually mafia LOL.

 

And yeah I could be. One way or another we'll find out pretty soon I think.

 

 

If you thought Lily was mafia, why would think I am mafia based on D1 lynch list? You are not making too much sense here, Nol. Hasty, perhaps?

[Pralaya]

 

 

So I was thrown off by Nyn/Verb being mafia and I've had to readjust my views.

Looking at the two lynch trains though I'm gonna conclude that Pral is the last mafia. If not then I think it's Sili.

If it isn't either of them then I'm having a bad game lol.

 

[v]Pral[/v]

 

Reasons? Because he was the first one to vote Lily?

Also because he didn't even vote when we lynched Nyn/Verb yesterday.

 

 

Clearly because I was sleeping through the whole drama.

 

Tina revealed at 1:30 AM my time. By 8 AM, verb had been lynched. CHeck the timestamps.

[Pralaya]

 

 

So, I'm still feeling iffy about Kaylee.  Waiting to see what Tress bring to the table.  Pral's case on Lily was good, imo, even if ultimately he was wrong. Still nullish because he needs to post more, but he's leaning more towards my townie pile. Looking forward to see his overall reads to form a more solid read on him. 

 

As far as Lily goes, she did look shady imo. Kinda hard to tell with her when she's actually scum or when she makes weird choices as a townie. 

 

 

What I have noticed and kinda bugs me is some of Thane's posts where I feel he's abusing his tendency to get mislynched. This puts me in a bit of a weird position where I actually have to agree with Sili lol  I'll pull up the quotes to demonstrate what I mean.

 

 

 

That's fine - I'm more interested in her response to what I mentioned above, though.

 

What about Kaylee?  I'm on the fence about whether her "helpfulness" with the N0 rules was honestly trying to correct, or going for town cred.

 

 

My 2 top town reads are Sili and Dice, honorable mention to Nolder.  Light town on you (Leelou) and the rest form my suspect pile.

 

One thing interesting I noted in both their posts was talking about Kaylee abruptly in the middle of their conversations. Maybe it is a confirmation bias, because I had Kaylee in my scum list, but I think they were distancing each other quite early.

 

 

The bold here is what I'm addressing. So a known scummer makes mention of my slot "abruptly in the middle of their conversation". Makes more sense to do that to frame someone.

 

Doubt so. They had no idea that they would be killed so early. And, a frame gambit that early in the game is unlikely. 

 

[v]Kaylee[/v]

[Thane Vakarian]

i need to catch up from page 27 or so, which i will try asap (at work)

Apologies for my absence, was at the hospital with one of my daughters yesterday for eye exams. Verdict is in: she needs glasses, her eyesight is 5/10 left, 7/10 right. Went to order glasses this morning.

 

Dice, just a little comment: i was not voting Verb/nyn either. When i came in, they had the necessary votes to be lynched. 

[Red2111]

Deadline -  Thurs Feb 12 @ 5pm CST or when someone has 5 votes

 

 

Vote Count

 

Thane (1/5): Sili

Sili (1/5): Dice

Pral (1/5): Nol

Leelou (1/5): Kaytress

Kaytress (1/5): Pral

 

 

No Lynch (3/8): Thane, Tina, Leelou

[Thane Vakarian]

so, something that stands out to me, and which i can not quite place (yet?).

 

Nolder, regarding your post here, letting Tina hammer. Leelou agrees, Tress likes it, it's fine with Kaylee, and also Dice.

 

Both Sili and Pral, however, do not comment on it. 

 

Personally, I think Tina should have a say. her peek could be of significance. 

 

I'm hesitating a bit. I haven't really been able to point out a solid suspect yet. i'll have to re-read the entire thing a few times. 

[Kaylee]

Pral: It would be a very poor downcast l distancing attempt. Considering they did so at a weird point. They're both good players so I'd think as a team they'd able to do a better job at it. But kudos for sticking to what you feel is a scum link.

[Kaylee]

Deadline is today and we should try for scum. I still feel with what Tress and I found on Lee that she's likely scum.

[Kaylee]

Thane and Tina who are your top scum leans?

 

Tina: What do you think of our case against Leelou?

[Thane Vakarian]

worktime is about to slow down, i'll read through the thread once more. I had Leelou down as a suspect earlier on in the game, but am hesitating on her for the moment.

[Kaylee]

Well at least there's still time until deadline.

[Thane Vakarian]

if i count correctly, 6 hours and 39 minutes from now on... 

[Kaylee]

if i count correctly, 6 hours and 39 minutes from now on...

So it's a good time to figure out who you think is scum and vote.

[Thane Vakarian]

indeed it is. 

 

Besides Leelou, who do you think is worth investigating?

[Kaylee]

indeed it is.

 

Besides Leelou, who do you think is worth investigating?

I'm not solid on you, Sili or Pral. I won't change my vote though unless Tina says Lee was her innocent. I'll also change my vote to consolidate if needed. Otherwise I'm pretty convinced Lee is Nyn/Verb'so teammate.

[Leelou]

 

Leelou I've had reservations about since the beginning. I looked back through the early part of the game to see her interactions with Verb and Nyn, and there's less there than I expect from her as town - it doesn't appear to me that she made an effort to figure out their alignment, and as I recall she didn't weigh in on their lynch until after the hammer, and then mostly questioned Tina's rationale for viewing them. The push she's made against Kaylee (and myself ) doesn't feel genuine to me, regardless of the fact that I know we're town. Kay is going to look at this further, find specific posts, etc. and we'll talk about it later if she has further input, but my preference is to vote here.

Lee: care to comment on the bold?

I'm fairly busy and really verb and I weren't online much at the same time to interact.

[Leelou]

 

 

I've had a really bad feeling about you since Day 1 and not much has really changed that. I always get a bit jumpy when someone tries to stop a lynch on me so early in the game. So I asked someone who I'm leaning town on right now to weigh in and give his thoughts.

 

 

 

 

I know I haven't been around much, sorry guys, I didn't realize the game would take this long. I'm on vacation until Monday and I'm not sure how my internet will be where I am. I'm going to try to pump out a few ISO's in the morning now that the site is functioning again.

To be fair to what you're saying, this is an impression I got earlier in the game.

Would you like me to take a second look at it? I don't usually focus on people I already wrote off as town.

Yes

[Kaylee]

And that's why you didn't try to figure out their alignment?

[Leelou]

And that's why you didn't try to figure out their alignment?

To be frank, yes. I haven't had the time I thought I would have to dedicate to this game.

[Kaylee]

 

And that's why you didn't try to figure out their alignment?

To be frank, yes. I haven't had the time I thought I would have to dedicate to this game.

Ok.