[Advanced] The Scouring of the Shire - Game Over

[Red2111]

@ Yates - in some situations it is.  like i said, it depends on who uses it and what happens.  its always about gauging reactions.

 

really its hard to explain xD  and this convo is null for legit scum hunting and is a distraction.  if youw ant more info, make a thread and i'll be happy to respond.

 

 

 

 

Also Red's list was extremly unimpressive.

 

less commentary from the peanut gallery and more actual game play

 

kaythnxbye

 

 

 

beat the grass to startle the snakes.  its a tactic.  you know what this is, stop playing coy *thwap*
 
http://changingminds.org/disciplines/warfare/36_strategems/36_stratagems_13.htm

A reaction fish, then?

 

 

not always but sometimes. its more than just reactions and fishing for reactions and jump starting the game.  gives good info but sometimes is done haphazardly or by a non-skilled person can royally screw the town (or blow up in a scums face)

 

I voted who I think it scum. Would it help if I made a big list with 90% of the game as null?

 

 

correction, you voted without a reason and then did, what i assume, was a CC.

 

which i commented on in my Q&A section and which you obviously didn't click on since you were so stuck in awe by my list of doom

 

in all seriousness.  what would help is more posts from everyone, to include yourself, about legit game related stuff, not just macho pissing contests about whose claim has the biggest attachments.

[Yates]

yates vs Arsis needs to be sorted out imo

I think you are inferring too much. There's nothing to sort, here.

 

Yates - on his meta, his antics make my scumdar ping cause the way he's going about this feels more antagonistic rather than helpful for scum hunting.  tbd with a tentative scum lean but not enough to push on imo

Shoot. The game hasn't even started and the day's nearly over. Sometimes you have to know when to pet the puppy and sometimes you have to know when to smack it on the snout with a rolled up newspaper. We are in newspaper territory here.

 

 

 

The Lady doth protest too much

Yeah but...

If I *were* hiding behind meta, how would that be alignment indicative to you, though?

I mean, specifically?

 

 

the act itself isn't, but the motive behind it is.

 

ie: its not what you're doing, but how you're doing it

 

I get the bold. You still didn't answer my question, though. I want to know, in my specific case, what meta you think I'm hiding behind and what that implies to you as it relates to your read on me in this game. You are obviously accusing me of something or at least IMPLYING something. And I want to know what that is...

[Red2111]

 

yates vs Arsis needs to be sorted out imo

I think you are inferring too much. There's nothing to sort, here.

 

to me there is. see quotes in spoiler tag

 

 

 

Serious claim: I'm the Shirriff.

 

Come at me, scum.

 

[v]Yates[/v]

 

 

 

I eat 6 meals for breakfast

1. Semen doesn't count as a "meal."

2. You should probably stop voting for the Shirriff.

 

Just saying.

 

Yes, it does.

 

No, you're not.

 

 

 

 

 

Yates - on his meta, his antics make my scumdar ping cause the way he's going about this feels more antagonistic rather than helpful for scum hunting.  tbd with a tentative scum lean but not enough to push on imo

Shoot. The game hasn't even started and the day's nearly over. Sometimes you have to know when to pet the puppy and sometimes you have to know when to smack it on the snout with a rolled up newspaper. We are in newspaper territory here.

 

first - totally started singing that kenny rogers "gotta know when to hold em" song xD

 

last - you're welcome to try, but i've been known to shred many a newspapers in my time

 

 

 

the act itself isn't, but the motive behind it is.

 

ie: its not what you're doing, but how you're doing it

I get the bold. You still didn't answer my question, though. I want to know, in my specific case, what meta you think I'm hiding behind and what that implies to you as it relates to your read on me in this game. You are obviously accusing me of something or at least IMPLYING something. And I want to know what that is...

 

meta basis is from TRW game and one other that i can't recall the name of but you played in with me after TRW

 

you flipped town on those, but same antics out of the gate as in this one.

 

so the act in itself doesn't say much about your wolfiness; which is why i said "either playing to meta or trying to be too much on meta" earlier. its not a cup of wine i'm willing to test out right now personally.

 

whats pinging me here is your insistence and hitting us over the head with multiple reminders of your "out of the gate" claim. it comes off as less of a beating the grass and more of a "see i'm on my meta cause i'm so townie".

 

 

 

i didn't want to get into this cup of wine, because its lose-lose to discuss it imo (hence womby's vote and response to me earilier) but there you go.

[Red2111]

SCUM SLIP ALERT!!!!

 

 

 

 

Is NO ONE going to defend Red?

There's this guy called redd at pog who is 1000x as erratic. He is the best :3

 

 

 

i've barely posted.

 

you've never played with me.

 

 

so how can you give this comparison?  and assert that someone else is 1000x more erratic than me?

 

 

 

smells like someont asked their scum mates about my meta and how i play

[Niniel]

Oh, didn´t realise that the deadline is today. I have no idea on who to vote. I´ll have to re-read quickly before it´s time to sleep. 

 

Red - again, I point out things that I see. You never know where it will lead. It was the only thing I saw that was worth mentioning at the time. The fact that you never answered made me continue. As you surely understand I also hoped to get some others reactions but there were non. I didn´t see anything special with Yates. He is claiming something in the beginning of most games. It says nothing about his alignment. I´ll see what you are talking about Sili and Arsis. 

[The Crusher]

 

 

Sili feels like town here. Plays a bit scummy and rash when he is town and that is somewhat what we see here.

Crusher's vote on Sili seems weird. i can totally understand if he has not played with Sili, but if he has and has seen Sili post before, then I think it is a bit opportunistic\\

 

Tina aggressive in the beginning looks good for her. 

 

Not very sure why a couple of people are suspecting Red here. I don't see the "hedging" in his post.

 

Yates seemed to try too hard to play how he plays as town initially. His later posts are more free and natural.

 

 

That is what I have so far

 

(Good, slow game :))

Your face seems weird.  almost snakelike.  LOL

 

Don;t remember if Sil and I have played together.  Oppurtunistic?  Day 1 first vote?  Is that even possible?  I say no.

 

 

unvote vote snakeface

 

Can you clarify who you're voting?

 

i thought I did.  Sorryl Nolder.  did not realize you are blind.  By the way.. you brail the hell outta this shit. 

[Yates]

meta basis is from TRW game and one other that i can't recall the name of but you played in with me after TRW

 

you flipped town on those, but same antics out of the gate as in this one.

That's what I wanted to know. I can assure you that it's a null tell with me and I have absolutely provided "seer cover" as scum before.

 

whats pinging me here is your insistence and hitting us over the head with multiple reminders of your "out of the gate" claim. it comes off as less of a beating the grass and more of a "see i'm on my meta cause i'm so townie".

Typically, a statement like "I'm the Shirriff" will garner a *little* more attention and conversation than mine did. [guess my meta is getting tired?] I'm really surprised at the complete lack of game play thus far in here. I acknowledge that I've been busy elsewhere and own some portion of culpability. However, I can't drive the activity in two games at once - at least, I'd prefer not to have to.

 

With that said; I promise you that when I flip you will see that I did not lie.

[Niniel]

Okay, now I realise what the Yates vs. Arsis thing is. I´m not sure about Yates, he does these things all the time. Time will tell. 

 

It´s very hard to get a feel for most players since many haven´t said much at all. I don´t feel confortable voting anyone right now and I have to go to bed. 

[Red2111]

 

meta basis is from TRW game and one other that i can't recall the name of but you played in with me after TRW

 

you flipped town on those, but same antics out of the gate as in this one.

That's what I wanted to know. I can assure you that it's a null tell with me and I have absolutely provided "seer cover" as scum before.

 

whats pinging me here is your insistence and hitting us over the head with multiple reminders of your "out of the gate" claim. it comes off as less of a beating the grass and more of a "see i'm on my meta cause i'm so townie".

Typically, a statement like "I'm the Shirriff" will garner a *little* more attention and conversation than mine did. [guess my meta is getting tired?] I'm really surprised at the complete lack of game play thus far in here. I acknowledge that I've been busy elsewhere and own some portion of culpability. However, I can't drive the activity in two games at once - at least, I'd prefer not to have to.

 

With that said; I promise you that when I flip you will see that I did not lie.

 

 

i take your words at face value, but if it helps you're less of a howl and more of a whimper for now. 

 

thats the reason why i didn't comment on it.  you're claim (and Arsis's CC) is the sort where eventually one of the scummers we have here will be outted without needing to lynch one to see.  discussing or focusing on it D1 is stupid imo

 

i do expect a report from both of you come morning though.

 

 

what do you think of Sili and his obv scum TIM slip about me?

[The Crusher]

We have about 1 hour 40 minutes to kill someone. 

 

I do know over at Jetnation that Nolder DID NOT mod kill anyone when we could not reach consensus.  He just let the night carry through. 

 

@ Nolder.  Should we expect the same. Bub?

[The Crusher]

 

 

meta basis is from TRW game and one other that i can't recall the name of but you played in with me after TRW

 

you flipped town on those, but same antics out of the gate as in this one.

That's what I wanted to know. I can assure you that it's a null tell with me and I have absolutely provided "seer cover" as scum before.

 

whats pinging me here is your insistence and hitting us over the head with multiple reminders of your "out of the gate" claim. it comes off as less of a beating the grass and more of a "see i'm on my meta cause i'm so townie".

Typically, a statement like "I'm the Shirriff" will garner a *little* more attention and conversation than mine did. [guess my meta is getting tired?] I'm really surprised at the complete lack of game play thus far in here. I acknowledge that I've been busy elsewhere and own some portion of culpability. However, I can't drive the activity in two games at once - at least, I'd prefer not to have to.

 

With that said; I promise you that when I flip you will see that I did not lie.

 

 

i take your words at face value, but if it helps you're less of a howl and more of a whimper for now. 

 

thats the reason why i didn't comment on it.  you're claim (and Arsis's CC) is the sort where eventually one of the scummers we have here will be outted without needing to lynch one to see.  discussing or focusing on it D1 is stupid imo

 

i do expect a report from both of you come morning though.

 

 

what do you think of Sili and his obv scum TIM slip about me?

 

Kill the squirrel eat the nuts.  Works for me.

 

unvote vote sil

[Arsis]

We have about 1 hour 40 minutes to kill someone.

 

I do know over at Jetnation that Nolder DID NOT mod kill anyone when we could not reach consensus. He just let the night carry through.

 

@ Nolder. Should we expect the same. Bub?

Isn't this hybrid hammer? Whoever had the most votes goes.

[Red2111]

Okay, now I realise what the Yates vs. Arsis thing is. I´m not sure about Yates, he does these things all the time. Time will tell. 

 

It´s very hard to get a feel for most players since many haven´t said much at all. I don´t feel confortable voting anyone right now and I have to go to bed. 

 

tina is slipping into scum-salad with this post

 

i dislike the need to comment on Yates, but the lack of comment about Arsis.

 

i greatly dislike the fence sitting and lack of vote and reason behind the lack of vote; especially given her "balls-to-the-walls" go she had at me earlier.

 

feels like she got called out on being argo, and is now backing off cause she's getting some spot light

 

if you dont want to lycnh someone, then throw up a no lynch vote

[Red2111]

 

We have about 1 hour 40 minutes to kill someone.

 

I do know over at Jetnation that Nolder DID NOT mod kill anyone when we could not reach consensus. He just let the night carry through.

 

@ Nolder. Should we expect the same. Bub?

Isn't this hybrid hammer? Whoever had the most votes goes.

 

 

whats your thoughts on Sili?

[The Crusher]

 

We have about 1 hour 40 minutes to kill someone.

 

I do know over at Jetnation that Nolder DID NOT mod kill anyone when we could not reach consensus. He just let the night carry through.

 

@ Nolder. Should we expect the same. Bub?

Isn't this hybrid hammer? Whoever had the most votes goes.

 

 

Is that what that means?  Had no idea.  Good looking out. 

[Arsis]

 

 

 

We have about 1 hour 40 minutes to kill someone.

 

I do know over at Jetnation that Nolder DID NOT mod kill anyone when we could not reach consensus. He just let the night carry through.

 

@ Nolder. Should we expect the same. Bub?

Isn't this hybrid hammer? Whoever had the most votes goes.

whats your thoughts on Sili?

Sili is acting like I expect him to from the few games I've played with him. There really hasn't been enough gameplay day 1.

[Red2111]

 

 

We have about 1 hour 40 minutes to kill someone.

 

I do know over at Jetnation that Nolder DID NOT mod kill anyone when we could not reach consensus. He just let the night carry through.

 

@ Nolder. Should we expect the same. Bub?

Isn't this hybrid hammer? Whoever had the most votes goes.

 

 

Is that what that means?  Had no idea.  Good looking out. 

 

 

right *nods*  and random.org decides who goes if theres a tie.

 

which right now there is.

 

 

between a claimed finder (yates) and a wolf suffering from a TMI slip and pingy post syndrome (Sili)

 

 

also, general fyi for the thread, heres a link for PST

 

http://wwp.greenwichmeantime.com/time-zone/usa/pacific-time/

 

 

so we have like 4 hrs to reach a majority, unless ya'll are good with having a claimed finder be part of the roulette wheel.

[Nolder]

 

 

 

Sili feels like town here. Plays a bit scummy and rash when he is town and that is somewhat what we see here.

Crusher's vote on Sili seems weird. i can totally understand if he has not played with Sili, but if he has and has seen Sili post before, then I think it is a bit opportunistic\\

 

Tina aggressive in the beginning looks good for her. 

 

Not very sure why a couple of people are suspecting Red here. I don't see the "hedging" in his post.

 

Yates seemed to try too hard to play how he plays as town initially. His later posts are more free and natural.

 

 

That is what I have so far

 

(Good, slow game :))

Your face seems weird.  almost snakelike.  LOL

 

Don;t remember if Sil and I have played together.  Oppurtunistic?  Day 1 first vote?  Is that even possible?  I say no.

 

 

unvote vote snakeface

 

Can you clarify who you're voting?

 

i thought I did.  Sorryl Nolder.  did not realize you are blind.  By the way.. you brail the hell outta this shit. 

 

Nah man my cat reads the game for me and tells me what's up. No worries.

 

We have about 1 hour 40 minutes to kill someone. 

 

I do know over at Jetnation that Nolder DID NOT mod kill anyone when we could not reach consensus.  He just let the night carry through. 

 

@ Nolder.  Should we expect the same. Bub?

Normally yes, however I am trying something the new people brought over to DM that's all the rage called hybrid hammer.

Hammer can happen but if not whoever has most votes by deadline dies, ties are randomized.

 

I think it allows for lazy gameplay personally but I guess it does allow games to progress with minimal activity if need be.

[Nolder]

Votecount

Red - Wom (1)

Krak - Pral (1)

Pral - Nyn (1)

Sili - Red, Crusher (2)

Yates - Arsis, Krak (2)

 

With 12 players alive it takes 7 to lynch.

Deadline: Monday, 7PM PST.

 

 

 

 

 

[The Crusher]

 

 

 

We have about 1 hour 40 minutes to kill someone.

 

I do know over at Jetnation that Nolder DID NOT mod kill anyone when we could not reach consensus. He just let the night carry through.

 

@ Nolder. Should we expect the same. Bub?

Isn't this hybrid hammer? Whoever had the most votes goes.

 

 

Is that what that means?  Had no idea.  Good looking out. 

 

 

right *nods*  and random.org decides who goes if theres a tie.

 

which right now there is.

 

 

between a claimed finder (yates) and a wolf suffering from a TMI slip and pingy post syndrome (Sili)

 

 

also, general fyi for the thread, heres a link for PST

 

http://wwp.greenwichmeantime.com/time-zone/usa/pacific-time/

 

 

so we have like 4 hrs to reach a majority, unless ya'll are good with having a claimed finder be part of the roulette wheel.

 

6:11 pm here.  Cool.   Thanks Red. 

[Sili Quirrels]

 

 

 

We have about 1 hour 40 minutes to kill someone.

I do know over at Jetnation that Nolder DID NOT mod kill anyone when we could not reach consensus. He just let the night carry through.

@ Nolder. Should we expect the same. Bub?

 

Isn't this hybrid hammer? Whoever had the most votes goes.

 what?

Is that what that means?  Had no idea.  Good looking out.

 

right *nods*  and random.org decides who goes if theres a tie.

 

which right now there is.

 

 

between a claimed finder (yates) and a wolf suffering from a TMI slip and pingy post syndrome (Sili)

 

 

also, general fyi for the thread, heres a link for PST

 

http://wwp.greenwichmeantime.com/time-zone/usa/pacific-time/

 

 

so we have like 4 hrs to reach a majority, unless ya'll are good with having a claimed finder be part of the roulette wheel.

[Sili Quirrels]

^what?

[Sili Quirrels]

SCUM SLIP ALERT!!!!  

 

Is NO ONE going to defend Red?

There's this guy called redd at pog who is 1000x as erratic. He is the best :3

   i've barely posted. you've never played with me.  so how can you give this comparison?  and assert that someone else is 1000x more erratic than me?   smells like someont asked their scum mates about my meta and how i play

oh, i get where you're coming from now.

 

it was just a tone read.

[Zashara]

I've been following this thread, but atm, I'm feeling like I've really got nothing much to contribute that hasn't already been said. Sili's comment about Krak burying his vote, then kinda taking it back and characterizing himself as "innocuous" rubbed me the wrong way. Red's playing very aggressive, and is driving conversation. Krak's lack of explanation for his vote bothers me. I'm for leaving Yates (and Arsis, though there are no votes on him obv) alone right now, and looking at them more after the night phase. So, [v]Sili[/v].

[Sili Quirrels]

then kinda taking it back and characterizing himself as innocuous.

that's not what happened.