[Standard] 11/10 Top Tier Vanilla+ Game Thread

[Nynaeve]

i'm not even posting that much Nyn.... hate me too?

 

Nah, I'm fibbing. I love you all (except Des :P)

[Cass]

 

 

What if, and bear with me here, Cass wrote Cass' posts?

 

See below:

 

 

 

Meh, you did kinda imply that Cass was getting hot and bothered. Of course, you also implied that someone else was writing her posts =S

I openly stated that Cass (or mystery author) seemed passionate about supporting Des. If Des was the author, this motive would match with his behavior. If another player wrote the post, it's a frame-up of Des, and Yates is in a perfect position to do that.

Acting like a newer player isn't being trusted to write her own freaking posts is extremely disrespectful, and both scummy AND underhanded on your part.

 

Frankly I despise that people actually seem to hold you in such high regard considering your propensity to be so incredibly disrespectful to other players

 

 

 

 

If a new player is on a wolf team, it is necessary that they would be coached. We are playing mafia...

 

The part that I said i disagreed with was where she stopped commenting on my play and started supported your agenda. This smacks of puppetry to me. 

 

 

Here's a fun exercise that I think you'll enjoy: go back through all of your posts and jot down all of the insulting terms, phrases and implications that you've thrown at other players. Then look in a mirror, read that list and follow it with your quote above about who you despise. 

 

You continue to focus on issues that have nothing to do with this game despite several other players remarking that you should. There are those that encourage you to act the way that you do, but they do you and the game a disservice.

 

 

 

In addition to previous post. This (in red above) was clever too, but because I know I'm Town. It just convinces me you're Scum.

 

I'm locked on it now. DPR is scum. 

 

Who are we voting? I need to go to bed.

[hazelkrs1]

 

May I just say how much I hate inline colored responses? They make it hell to trim down quotes and remove the stuff you aren't addressing.

 

Re: the bolded/purpled/underlined DPR quote above...

 

See, despite the patented Des Tunneling, this is one of the points he's made against you that really does continue to make complete sense.  You keep characterizing his "seer cover" explanation as DES bringing it up to explain Yates' behavior as a town move, but the actual context doesn't support that.  Despo didn't just "bring it up" - he was specifically asked what he thought about Yates' claim and clearing of Dice, and he kinda had to bring up "seer cover" to explain why he was disregarding the claim entirely.   Blame it on Dice, if anyone, and unless you think Yates, Dice and Despo are mafia together and planned that little exchange behind the scenes, I do not think it means what you think it means.

 

I noted Yates plays. He made 'em, he's a good player and i catalogues 'em.

 

I noted Des possible buddying/supporting Yates plays. I presented it as a possible connection. That's it. I still present it as such.

 

D1 is the only pure day we get and the town benefits not from speculation, metamizing and using the force, but by cataloging evidence to be used to analyze later.

 

That's as plain as i can make it. Nothing is hard info until the bodies start falling. 

 

All the rest of today is a huge waste of time that will only benefit the mafia and make it harder on town to get through on a re-read.

 

 

Moar of DPR evading someone's point

 

Moar of him fluffing/padding (almost all of this post isn't gameplay oriented to this game, it's just stuff that can be said about any game ever)

 

Moar of him trying to close a discussion instead of further it to make his own stances more clear, or to interrogate Tress and delve into her alignment

 

But yknow, I'm just tunneling here, don't mind me

 

 

I literally cannot catch up. Whenever I finish reading one page, there's a new page to read.

 

I hate you all.

 

(except Lee <3)

 

Quick! Everyone stop posting so Nyn can catchup!

 

i'm not even posting that much Nyn.... hate me too?

 

Thane... you are kinda spamming and fluffing a lot lately. I appreciate you trying to keep the mood cool, but if you really want to make it easier for rereads, mebbe spam and fluff a little less?

[hazelkrs1]

 

i'm not even posting that much Nyn.... hate me too?

 

Nah, I'm fibbing. I love you all (except Des :P)

 

 

I KNEW IT!!!!!

 

[Sili Quirrels]

dpr over me. yay.

 

making coffee then doing vcs.

[Thane Vakarian]

@Cass: Pral and Sili are on top i think, but your vote is your own. Vote who YOU think is a wolf. 

[Songstress]

dpr over me. yay.

 

making coffee then doing vcs.

 

With posts like that, don't be so sure.

 

I'm willing to vote either right now.

[Sili Quirrels]

it's like totally obvious that arsis was scum and stuff and when people caught on he dropped out to obfuscate matters.

[DPR]

 

@Cass - I have no desire to cut the communication between you and I. All of a sudden? :P  What are your thoughts about what I've accused of your post? How do you explain knowing what you do in light that your experience has been one turbo game? I'm good? What do you mean by 'knowing'?? Is it bothering you that something I said is right?  Why would you cite Des above every other player when he is acting so badly - you don't see other players doing what he does, but you do see a lot of comments that say "Oh, that's just Des..." or "Des does tunnel a lot" or "he's gone #FULLDES". Why did you choose to support that, and at the same time, turn your back on Kivam? Because I'm playing my own game and making up my own mind, and it makes sense to me that you are scum (for the way you are playing and the reasons mentioned before - which btw you still haven't directly answered :P). Des might have gone off on long tunnelish posts, and they may have been annoying to multiple people, but that doesn't mean they did not hold an element of truth. I supported the potential for that element of truth - because I happen to be leaning towards it actually being true. FYI I find the fact that you are even asking this question scummy too - you didn't ask me WHY I THINK YOU'RE SCUM, instead you asked me WHY I'M "FOLLOWING" SOMEONE OTHER PEOPLE have been tending to shy away from and criticise. It's clever. And because I know I'm Town, it points you more towards the SCUM.

 

I have not 'turned my back' on Kivam. I have decided that I think it's highly likely he may be scum. I am being watchful and suspicious of him - something he, himself has suggested everyone should do, for EVERY player.

 

To your question about why I've avoided Des - we have history. For the purposes of this game, it does not matter what that history is. However, I've made a significant effort to avoid his ceaseless tunneling, right up to the point where he is just making stuff up to suit his own agenda.

Kind of silly to let this sort of personal history get in the way of a cohesive Town approach, if you were Town, dontchya think?

 

I'm genuinely asking you these questions as they will play an important part in the game later on.

 

 

I'm in Blue. How'd we do?

 

I'd say you still look scum 

 

 

Y'all did just fine.

[Cass]

My preferences for this vote are now, in order:

 

DPR

Sili

 

 

I don't want to change my vote if people are not going to back me on DPR, because it just means we lose our chance at Sili. Help. And seriously, it's 3.18am, I need to go to bed. I don't understand your timezones - how many hours til night begins??

[Thane Vakarian]

@Des: i try bro, but the general feel of the thread needs a bit lightening up. If it's the only thing i'll manage D1, i'll be satisfied. Plus, i posted my little list of suspects, should i not make it to D2. Will post less if it helps, but i doubt i'm top poster anymore

[Sili Quirrels]

 

dpr over me. yay.

 

making coffee then doing vcs.

 

With posts like that, don't be so sure.

 

I'm willing to vote either right now.

 

well, if you want to take me seriously that's your prerogative.

[Yates]

 

Darthe, you claimed to have viewed DPR. How do you feel about Des' push on him?

 

I love this post.

 

@Darthe - did you ever respond to this?

[Thane Vakarian]

@Cass: 6:20 pm here; and still got 3 hours at work left.

[csarmi]

 

May I just say how much I hate inline colored responses? They make it hell to trim down quotes and remove the stuff you aren't addressing.

 

Re: the bolded/purpled/underlined DPR quote above...

 

See, despite the patented Des Tunneling, this is one of the points he's made against you that really does continue to make complete sense.  You keep characterizing his "seer cover" explanation as DES bringing it up to explain Yates' behavior as a town move, but the actual context doesn't support that.  Despo didn't just "bring it up" - he was specifically asked what he thought about Yates' claim and clearing of Dice, and he kinda had to bring up "seer cover" to explain why he was disregarding the claim entirely.   Blame it on Dice, if anyone, and unless you think Yates, Dice and Despo are mafia together and planned that little exchange behind the scenes, I do not think it means what you think it means.

 

 

I noted Yates plays. He made 'em, he's a good player and i catalogues 'em.

 

I noted Des possible buddying/supporting Yates plays. I presented it as a possible connection. That's it. I still present it as such.

 

D1 is the only pure day we get and the town benefits not from speculation, metamizing and using the force, but by cataloging evidence to be used to analyze later.

 

That's as plain as i can make it. Nothing is hard info until the bodies start falling. 

 

All the rest of today is a huge waste of time that will only benefit the mafia and make it harder on town to get through on a re-read.

Please show me where Des supported Yates.

[Barmacral]

I literally cannot catch up. Whenever I finish reading one page, there's a new page to read.

 

I hate you all.

 

(except Lee <3)

 

This has been my evening.

[hazelkrs1]

 

 

@Cass - I have no desire to cut the communication between you and I. All of a sudden? :P  What are your thoughts about what I've accused of your post? How do you explain knowing what you do in light that your experience has been one turbo game? I'm good? What do you mean by 'knowing'?? Is it bothering you that something I said is right?  Why would you cite Des above every other player when he is acting so badly - you don't see other players doing what he does, but you do see a lot of comments that say "Oh, that's just Des..." or "Des does tunnel a lot" or "he's gone #FULLDES". Why did you choose to support that, and at the same time, turn your back on Kivam? Because I'm playing my own game and making up my own mind, and it makes sense to me that you are scum (for the way you are playing and the reasons mentioned before - which btw you still haven't directly answered :P). Des might have gone off on long tunnelish posts, and they may have been annoying to multiple people, but that doesn't mean they did not hold an element of truth. I supported the potential for that element of truth - because I happen to be leaning towards it actually being true. FYI I find the fact that you are even asking this question scummy too - you didn't ask me WHY I THINK YOU'RE SCUM, instead you asked me WHY I'M "FOLLOWING" SOMEONE OTHER PEOPLE have been tending to shy away from and criticise. It's clever. And because I know I'm Town, it points you more towards the SCUM.

 

I have not 'turned my back' on Kivam. I have decided that I think it's highly likely he may be scum. I am being watchful and suspicious of him - something he, himself has suggested everyone should do, for EVERY player.

 

To your question about why I've avoided Des - we have history. For the purposes of this game, it does not matter what that history is. However, I've made a significant effort to avoid his ceaseless tunneling, right up to the point where he is just making stuff up to suit his own agenda.

Kind of silly to let this sort of personal history get in the way of a cohesive Town approach, if you were Town, dontchya think?

 

I'm genuinely asking you these questions as they will play an important part in the game later on.

 

 

I'm in Blue. How'd we do?

 

I'd say you still look scum 

 

 

Y'all did just fine.

 

 

I can't wait to post this gif once we finally lynch DPR:

 

 

 

 

My preferences for this vote are now, in order:

 

DPR

Sili

 

 

I don't want to change my vote if people are not going to back me on DPR, because it just means we lose our chance at Sili. Help. And seriously, it's 3.18am, I need to go to bed. I don't understand your timezones - how many hours til night begins??

 

Just vote DPR with me. If he's not getting lynched, it will still be fairly easy to accumulate enough votes to lynch Sili or someone else even without you.

 

Also I think you're wrong about Sili btw. Think you might have confbias there.

[Darthe]

 

 

Darthe, you claimed to have viewed DPR. How do you feel about Des' push on him?

 

I love this post.

 

@Darthe - did you ever respond to this?

 

To Barm?  No.  To Leelou?  Yes.

[csarmi]

What ia this nonsense of someone writing Cass' posts?

[DPR]

My preferences for this vote are now, in order:

 

DPR

Sili

 

 

I don't want to change my vote if people are not going to back me on DPR, because it just means we lose our chance at Sili. Help. And seriously, it's 3.18am, I need to go to bed. I don't understand your timezones - how many hours til night begins??

 

I see. You're a first game mafia prodigy, but you don't get the whole time-zone thing. 

 

You want to contribute to the town? Lay a vote down so that you've documented your stance.

[csarmi]

Darthe.

 

How do i townread you?

[Cass]

 

 

 

@Cass - I have no desire to cut the communication between you and I. All of a sudden? :P  What are your thoughts about what I've accused of your post? How do you explain knowing what you do in light that your experience has been one turbo game? I'm good? What do you mean by 'knowing'?? Is it bothering you that something I said is right?  Why would you cite Des above every other player when he is acting so badly - you don't see other players doing what he does, but you do see a lot of comments that say "Oh, that's just Des..." or "Des does tunnel a lot" or "he's gone #FULLDES". Why did you choose to support that, and at the same time, turn your back on Kivam? Because I'm playing my own game and making up my own mind, and it makes sense to me that you are scum (for the way you are playing and the reasons mentioned before - which btw you still haven't directly answered :P). Des might have gone off on long tunnelish posts, and they may have been annoying to multiple people, but that doesn't mean they did not hold an element of truth. I supported the potential for that element of truth - because I happen to be leaning towards it actually being true. FYI I find the fact that you are even asking this question scummy too - you didn't ask me WHY I THINK YOU'RE SCUM, instead you asked me WHY I'M "FOLLOWING" SOMEONE OTHER PEOPLE have been tending to shy away from and criticise. It's clever. And because I know I'm Town, it points you more towards the SCUM.

 

I have not 'turned my back' on Kivam. I have decided that I think it's highly likely he may be scum. I am being watchful and suspicious of him - something he, himself has suggested everyone should do, for EVERY player.

 

To your question about why I've avoided Des - we have history. For the purposes of this game, it does not matter what that history is. However, I've made a significant effort to avoid his ceaseless tunneling, right up to the point where he is just making stuff up to suit his own agenda.

Kind of silly to let this sort of personal history get in the way of a cohesive Town approach, if you were Town, dontchya think?

 

I'm genuinely asking you these questions as they will play an important part in the game later on.

 

 

I'm in Blue. How'd we do?

 

I'd say you still look scum 

 

 

Y'all did just fine.

 

 

I can't wait to post this gif once we finally lynch DPR:

 

 

 

 

My preferences for this vote are now, in order:

 

DPR

Sili

 

 

I don't want to change my vote if people are not going to back me on DPR, because it just means we lose our chance at Sili. Help. And seriously, it's 3.18am, I need to go to bed. I don't understand your timezones - how many hours til night begins??

 

Just vote DPR with me. If he's not getting lynched, it will still be fairly easy to accumulate enough votes to lynch Sili or someone else even without you.

 

Also I think you're wrong about Sili btw. Think you might have confbias there.

 

 

 

Des. If you and DPR are partnering in scum I am totally going to kill you. Just saying.

[DPR]

 

 

May I just say how much I hate inline colored responses? They make it hell to trim down quotes and remove the stuff you aren't addressing.

 

Re: the bolded/purpled/underlined DPR quote above...

 

See, despite the patented Des Tunneling, this is one of the points he's made against you that really does continue to make complete sense.  You keep characterizing his "seer cover" explanation as DES bringing it up to explain Yates' behavior as a town move, but the actual context doesn't support that.  Despo didn't just "bring it up" - he was specifically asked what he thought about Yates' claim and clearing of Dice, and he kinda had to bring up "seer cover" to explain why he was disregarding the claim entirely.   Blame it on Dice, if anyone, and unless you think Yates, Dice and Despo are mafia together and planned that little exchange behind the scenes, I do not think it means what you think it means.

 

I noted Yates plays. He made 'em, he's a good player and i catalogues 'em.

 

I noted Des possible buddying/supporting Yates plays. I presented it as a possible connection. That's it. I still present it as such.

 

D1 is the only pure day we get and the town benefits not from speculation, metamizing and using the force, but by cataloging evidence to be used to analyze later.

 

That's as plain as i can make it. Nothing is hard info until the bodies start falling. 

 

All the rest of today is a huge waste of time that will only benefit the mafia and make it harder on town to get through on a re-read.

Please show me where Des supported Yates.

 

 

Yep. I'll be back in a bit.

[hazelkrs1]

What ia this nonsense of someone writing Cass' posts?

 

DPR thinks me and Yates are writing Cass' posts for her

 

Or rather he's pushing that angle, I seriously doubt he actually believes that

[Nynaeve]

Okay. So. 

 

I feel better about Tress now that she posted a bit. Brownie points. I only agree with part of her reads but overall her explanations seem good to me considering we're at D1. Just don't fall off the wagon. Tress. MAKE ME BELIEVE 

 

Des, your WoTs aren't being ignored and I don't think you're crazy. But you have to understand that every person has their own reads and his/her own way of interpreting events.  Just because someone doesn't see things the way you do doesn't mean you're being dismissed. Now....I'm not at a place where I'm comfortable considering a DPR lynch. I'm having a hard time with reading him (big shock there ) and I need more time to stalk observe him. I am very much intrigued lol   But I don't see why you choose to take it as a personal diss. *shrugs*

 

 

 

And **** me, 14 new replies as I'm typing this!? I'm surprised DM hasn't dropped down of exhaustion.  I'm back to hating you all again (including Des).