[Standard] 11/10 Top Tier Vanilla+ Game Thread

[Krakalakachkn]

I don't count votes without ##

 

You're a monster.

 

 

[color:red]##Vote Pral[/color]

[Tommyrod]

Vote Count D2.20:

Kivam (3): AJ [#2373], Deslami [#2623], Darthe [#2728]
Verbarm (3): Nyn [#2192], Saladtosser [#2202], Pral [#2500]
AJ (3): Verbarm [#2562], Kivam [#2785], Wombat [#2823]
Pral (2): Thane [#1931], Krak [#2826]
Wombat (1): DPR [#2730]

Unvote (1): Cass [#2187]

Not Voting (3): Hallia, Rags, Tress

At the gallows: Kivam

Reminder: players not voting at EOD will be voting for themselves.

[Verbal32]

YOU'RE TOO LATE VERBAL

I wasn't aware you had no staying power.

[WWWwombat]

BEST VOTE COUNT

[WWWwombat]

KRAK I'M GOING TO COUNT YOUR VOTE AS A VOTE ON KIVAM WRT ANALYSIS

[dicetosser1]

my gut read on AJ is town too.

 

but i dont want kiv dead either.

 

 

cass!  get in here and vote verb !

[Verbal32]

KRAK I'M GOING TO COUNT YOUR VOTE AS A VOTE ON KIVAM WRT ANALYSIS

yup

[WWWwombat]

Krak basically has the hammer here and he hasn't read anyhting.  ROFL

[Verbal32]

my gut read on AJ is town too.

 

but i dont want kiv dead either.

 

 

cass! get in here and vote verb !

Did you read my responses to Nyn?

[Hallia]

I don't think AJ is mafia.

 

I'm not the most informed on Kivam, but between the two

 

##Vote: Kivam

[DPR]

Vote Count D2.19:

 

Kivam (3): AJ [#2373], Deslami [#2623], Darthe [#2728]

Verbarm (3): Nyn [#2192], Saladtosser [#2202], Pral [#2500]

AJ (2): Verbarm [#2562], Kivam [#2785]

Pral (1): Thane [#1931]

Cass (1): Wombat [#2631]

Wombat (1): DPR [#2730]

Darthe (1): Wombat [#2816]

 

Unvote (1): Cass [#2187]

 

Not Voting (4): Hallia, Krak, Rags, Tress

 

At the gallows: Kivam

 

Reminder: players not voting at EOD will be voting for themselves.

 

 

##Unvote Wombat

 

##Vote AJ

 

Call for mod specification on votes Deslami (#2623) vs. Saladtosser (#2202) whom I believe to be the same voter.

[Cass]

Lol Wom you and Kiv are screwing with my head so bad! *g*

 

I see both of you voted Sili last round...

 

 

[v]##Kiv[/v]

[Krakalakachkn]

How in the world did Des lose his tunnel vision on DPR?

[Verbal32]

Hahaha

[Verbal32]

Hahaha

This was to Wes

[WWWwombat]

THIS IS NOW A GREAT EOD!

[Kivam]

That's five on me, 4 on aj, three on verb who won't be dying

[Verbal32]

How in the world did Des lose his tunnel vision on DPR?

He acquired Kiv along the way. He's been pretty consistent with it, though.

[Kivam]

Parked at the station, don't worry

[Cass]

Dice,

 

I don't know if you've had time to see my last full reads list. 

 

I'm more certain on Kiv, DPR and Wom, because their reasons for seeming scummy all relate to the way they've reacted to me - and me knowing I am Town.

 

The others (Verbarm included) are all based on how they've interacted with others, which I can't be as solid on, not knowing yet where those others lie...

[Kivam]

Those on verb, its now me or aj

[WWWwombat]

KIV AND AJ ARE NOT THE SAME ALIGNMENT IMO

[Tommyrod]

Vote Count D2.21:

Kivam (5): AJ [#2373], Deslami [#2623], Darthe [#2728], Hallia [#2835], Cass [#2837]
AJ (4): Verbarm [#2562], Kivam [#2785], Wombat [#2823], DPR [#2836]
Verbarm (3): Nyn [#2192], Dicetosser [#2202], Pral [#2500]
Pral (2): Thane [#1931], Krak [#2826]

Not Voting (2): Rags, Tress

At the gallows: Kivam

Reminder: players not voting at EOD will be voting for themselves.

[Krakalakachkn]

KRAK I'M GOING TO COUNT YOUR VOTE AS A VOTE ON KIVAM WRT ANALYSIS

 

YOU DO YOU

[Cass]

Here Dice, this ended with a Kiv no reply:

 

 

 

 

This makes no sense. Play this out in your head.  Assume I'm town, and haven't seen anything specific from Wes to make me suspect him of being scum beyond general wariness, but have seen specific things from others that do.  How would I present my arguments?

 

In my mind?

 

In the context of the others? The same way that you have.

 

 

 

In the context of Wes?

 

Like this: "I always suspect him of being scum, beyond a general wariness, but I have not seen specific things this game which point to scum."

 

Not (ever) like this:

 

Re Wes - I answered you on this earlier.  The plays you're reading as scummy are typical of him as town.  Can't explain why without destroying whatever effectiveness they might otherwise have, 

 

 

Especially not when he had effectively done something much the same:

 

 

c) @DPR - What's your read on Kiv? When you suggested a Scum team that didn't include you or Kiv - why did you suggest Kiv should be out too? I can think of a 'plausible' reason for you, now. But not quite one for Kiv....?

 

 

So, for various reasons, I'm not going to go into detail on all of the possibilities regarding Kiv.