[Standard] 11/10 Top Tier Vanilla+ Game Thread

[Nynaeve]

I was just thinking the same. It just bugs me that it wasnt said in the sign up.

[Nynaeve]

I mean if you're gonna choose to bring it up in the game thread, for whatever reason, then it sould come as no sirprise that we try to wrap our heads around it * shrugs*

[Thane Vakarian]

i don't really care about 3 amigos, alliances and whatnots.... current gameplay is what should count. And hi all

[hazelkrs1]

Another sign of the apocalypse: Nyn agreeing with me in a mafia game

 

[Nynaeve]

Maybe I'm coming down with something :P

[Nynaeve]

Also sorry about the typing mistakes. I'm out on my cell.

[Darthe]

I don't deny that I tunnel people, but if I'm tunneling scum, it's good for town, and likewise scum would rather dismiss my suspicions as the ramblings of a crazy tunneler

 

DPR evading my questioning is noted btw.

If I wasn't someone that you tunnel in most games, or if I was scum, that would hold water to me.   But it doesn't.

[Darthe]

I'd like to put this "let's not cheat" post to bed by pointing out the logic implied by Des's summation here:

Look at the whole #Alliance thing. If one of that group rolls scum, you think they'll back down from forming a "town" power core with the other members of it who are actually town? Hell to the nah. They'll act like they're ready to #alliance it up just like normal.

Des basically just stated why me saying up front that we can't play that way is a Town null tell. If I'm scum? Why not abuse it since I *DIDN'T* get a chance to say it pregame? I gain nothing as scum pointing this out and instead make myself a huge suspect - at least in AJ and Dice's eyes. So there is zero scum motivation for making this post.

 

My Town personal motivation is obviously because I actually care about the integrity of the game. Which was my stated motivation in my original post.  Okay?  Good?  Good.

I'm usually a Yatesbro til D2 at least but this is just off.  I don't see him catering to a point that someone else is belaboring if it doesn't actively affect his reads list this early.  

 

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[hazelkrs1]

"If I was scum that would hold water on me"

 

Lolololololol

 

And pointing out that I've tunneled on you in the past IS discrediting me, essentially. I've also tunneled on you when you were scum, btw. Multiple times.

[Yates]

I mean if you're gonna choose to bring it up in the game thread, for whatever reason, then it sould come as no sirprise that we try to wrap our heads around it * shrugs*

Look - I brought it up in my FIRST POST. I already told you why. It's because, based on what I read in the signups, this game wasn't supposed to start until after Marlfox ended. My plan was to address it there in post game, which is where it actually belonged. If I said it later in the game? I guess I'd at least see why other people would hone in on it as a potential excuse/cover. But the funny part is that the two people this is actually about seem to be okay with what I said and why I said it. It's nuts. And it's a distraction.

 

I'm just going to ignore anything else said about this unless it becomes pertinent to anything actually game related later.

[Kivam]

There's something liberating about coming to the game without recent mafia history on any of you.  

[Nynaeve]

I reread the post and now it bugs me even more. You're saying the motivation behind it all is game integrity. But in the same breath you're trying to score brownie points for it. Eh.

[Nynaeve]

that was @yates

[Nynaeve]

Feel free to ignore the topic. But trying to say that you'd never bring it up as scum is you trying to utilize it to gain town cred.

[Yates]

Still the only Seer in the game.

 

Still have a Town result on Dice.

 

FTR - my Dice investigation was the result of a random role by mod since I didn't see my role until 2 hours after my NA was due - as evidenced by the time stamp of my first post. Thanks for asking about this very pertinent piece of information, btw.

[Darthe]

"If I was scum that would hold water on me"

 

Lolololololol

 

And pointing out that I've tunneled on you in the past IS discrediting me, essentially. I've also tunneled on you when you were scum, btw. Multiple times.

Your arguing that because you're accurate 25% of the time it validates the other 75%? 

[Darthe]

Still the only Seer in the game.

 

Still have a Town result on Dice.

 

FTR - my Dice investigation was the result of a random role by mod since I didn't see my role until 2 hours after my NA was due - as evidenced by the time stamp of my first post. Thanks for asking about this very pertinent piece of information, btw.

Three of us have claimed.  That could be basic seer cover and doesn't exempt you from being a lynch candidate for the day.

[Barmacral]

There's something liberating about coming to the game without recent mafia history on any of you.  

 

I get you.

[Barmacral]

 

Still the only Seer in the game.

 

Still have a Town result on Dice.

 

FTR - my Dice investigation was the result of a random role by mod since I didn't see my role until 2 hours after my NA was due - as evidenced by the time stamp of my first post. Thanks for asking about this very pertinent piece of information, btw.

Three of us have claimed.  That could be basic seer cover and doesn't exempt you from being a lynch candidate for the day.

 

 

Who was the third? I must have missed them because not in my notes.

[csarmi]

 

I don't deny that I tunnel people, but if I'm tunneling scum, it's good for town, and likewise scum would rather dismiss my suspicions as the ramblings of a crazy tunneler

DPR evading my questioning is noted btw.

 

If I wasn't someone that you tunnel in most games, or if I was scum, that would hold water to me.   But it doesn't.

Wait. Despo's suspicion on you would hold water for you? Did you just say that?

[Darthe]

^This is how you bring him down.  

[Darthe]

Dammit new page...  It's hard to Darthe.

 

 

 

 

Still the only Seer in the game.

Still have a Town result on Dice.

FTR - my Dice investigation was the result of a random role by mod since I didn't see my role until 2 hours after my NA was due - as evidenced by the time stamp of my first post. Thanks for asking about this very pertinent piece of information, btw.

Three of us have claimed.  That could be basic seer cover and doesn't exempt you from being a lynch candidate for the day.

 

 

Who was the third? I must have missed them because not in my notes.

 

 

I think it was Yates, then AJ or someone, then I did a page or two ago.  DPR  N0 town.

[csarmi]

By pointing out your possible scumslip?

[Darthe]

It's like talking to a mound of pudding.

 

Christ Salami, no.  Obviously if I was mafia he would be right so his argument would be valid that he is tunneling scum and that it is beneficial to town for him to do so.  How can you possibly not understand that?

[Darthe]

Yates is FROZEN