[Advanced] Revenge of the Marlfox

[hazelkrs1]

You are free to think that, but it is not the case.

I'll take your refusal to back up what you're saying as your scumclaim

 

Thank you for being so gracious

[Sili Quirrels]

If you truly take it as such then that is your choice.

[Andrej]

VOTE COUNT

 

 

Team Cuddles (1): Arsis

Berf (5): Key, Alanna, AJ, Thane, Lates

BFKEY(2): Dice, Pral

Sili (1): Des

Arsis (2): Verbal, Monstr

Verbal (2): Sili, Cuddles

Rags (1): Tommy

 

 

Not Voting (2): The rest of you lot.

 

 

 

Deadline Set:  

 

 

http://www.timeanddate.com/countdown/generic?iso=20141030T21&p0=2133&msg=Deadline+Day+1&csz=1

Geez all the coding in this post makes my phone flip out. There were a few things of note that I sensed looking at this VC. First and foremost is Arsis voting Cuddles. If you recall the DHEL game he spent most of D1 bussing/distancing his teammates. I can see the parallel here considering the bad vibes I get from Cory and Arsis's too stubborn to be actually genuine play. This is DEFINITELY something to keep in mind as the game continued to develop. I think a wolf flip from either slot neatly points to the other.

 

Another was looking at the Berf wagon and weighing my town reads and the VT flip from Thane I think KeyFG is the most likely wolf in that category, if there is one. Pral being the solo vote in this instance gives me a few ideas. Either Pral is GOAT reading the thread and is correct on the ladies, Pral is hard bussing a teammate like he was in Firefly, or the other two obvious choices in that they're v/v or v/w.

 

If we are misclearing one person the berf wagon likely has a mafia busses should berf flip mafia

If we're misclearing two berf is likely a townie with mafia already on the wagon

I nabbed this quote just because I liked it so much. At this point I'm comfortable with proceeding having Berf as a villager read so I think scrutinizing his wagon isn't a bad idea.

 

Aj is p. Obv actually sk

More like Miller Vig amirite

 

See I've had Thane on my lists most of the game. So he's certainly a scum suspect of mine. I just feel strange lynching him. Hybrid hammer is more interesting and less stressful eod. Thane is better than no lynch. Still prefer sili. thane

I'm pretty happy just to roll with this post as a scum claim from Arsis.

 

OH WELL AT LEAST WE TRIED

 

 

lol nice one Tom

 

Fwiw I could easily see you as a wolf for your EOD play. I also remember reading somewhere that it's a villager tell for you to want control over the thread, which I remember seeing elsewhere (in another game) this mannerism being attributed to your wolf game.

 

Thane is going to hate me. I promised last time I wouldn't let him be lynched day 1.

  

That went about expected tbh. Sorry Thane.

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Could dice/despot/cory have wolves in them?

 

 

take me out of that and ure chance go up by 33.3%

 

Oh, ya, dice... he voted me for no reason. dat guy got steam. Strong wolf.

 

 

Oh i gave reasons. Quite seriously I have not liked your posts since page 106. All that screaming reads to me as a scum freaking out that he was close to being lynched. Particularly a non experienced scum. plus the early why am i not blue crap. You feel forced. Dont like it? I dont care.

This is an absurdly villager post from Dice btw.

[Andrej]

If you truly take it as such then that is your choice.

I'm assuming this was in reference to me being a friendly neighbor in the village?

 

Let me ask you something Sili. After looking over the tantrums you threw today coupled with your comments about losing respect on others, what have you done to make this village a better place to live in? I really think you need to cool it and that's me being nice about it.

[Sili Quirrels]

It was in response to Despothera.

 

I am cooling it AJ. Sorry for earlier.

[Andrej]

Other stuff:

 

I'm beginning to come around on Verb being a villager. I don't think the post he wrote about Wombat's opinion of him wouldn't be hard to make as a wolf but it did read pretty genuine for me. I also have Lates as one of my firmer green reads so I am content to roll with Leelou saying he's a villager at this point.

 

Rags is still null for me.

 

Pral potentially could be a wolf. Even if KeyFG are I wouldn't clear him over this. If they turn out to be villagers I would definitely move in this direction.

 

Berf looks pretty good after reading over his most recent posts. Hopefully he can keep the activity level up.

 

Alanna I have pretty close to blue at this point. That girl knows how to get my jimmies all kinds of excited

 

Despot I don't have a super firm read on yet. The aggression/tinfoil stuff is all within his wolf range so I'll continue to let it develop as things progress.

 

So, I'll do a buckle list to make Monstr happy.

 

Super villagery:

Lates

Alanna

Dice

Monstr

 

Probably/maybe villagers:

Verb

Berf

Tom

Despot

 

Null:

Rags

Sili

 

Maybe wolves:

Pral

KeyFG

Cory/Hallia

 

Pretty sure is a stinky wolf:

Arsis

[Andrej]

It was in response to Despothera.

 

I am cooling it AJ. Sorry for earlier.

Okay - no hard feelings. I promise that I will go back and look over your content (probably this weekend) and shore up my read on you.

 

Atm though I think you have been reacting badly to pressure but I'm willing to leave it at that. Just keep in mind that AJ will occasionally have bad games, but AJ is never bad.

[Andrej]

I've got my routine morning/afternoon shift and between I'll be running around like crazy. We're also putting on a Halloween carnival for the kids, which we have been preparing for all week (which is why I've been working so late), so by the time I actually do get home I doubt I'll be up to much reading, etc. so that's about all the #work you're gonna get from me until this weekend Village.

 

Use it wisely imo.

[Andrej]

Good night.

[Sili Quirrels]

 

It was in response to Despothera.

 

I am cooling it AJ. Sorry for earlier.

Okay - no hard feelings. I promise that I will go back and look over your content (probably this weekend) and shore up my read on you.

 

Atm though I think you have been reacting badly to pressure but I'm willing to leave it at that. Just keep in mind that AJ will occasionally have bad games, but AJ is never bad.

You don't have to shore up your read on me. I'm town.

 

 

why don't you believe me?

 

 

I admit freely, I've played this game like a child. *nods. Probably a bunch of different factors lead to it, but that's neither here nor there. I am correcting my tone now so that's that.

[dicetosser1]

AJ does pointing out pral was not the only vote on bfg/key change your thinking that you put here?  i tried asking tommy this sort of thing earlier but he didnt get what i was saying so im bringting it right out into the open

 

 

http://www.dragonmount.com/forums/topic/91500-advanced-revenge-of-the-marlfox/page-143?do=findComment&comment=3369111

[dicetosser1]

my WTL is Arsis, BFG/key and unless he proves otherwise sili.

 

i still think we should lynch tom d3 too if we dont start finding scum. I sis NOT like his jumping around EOD and then CFDing thane. was not surprised at all that thane flipped town

[Sili Quirrels]

Thane... was unfortunate, though no more a loss than a lynch of either me or Berf.

 

If you do not already believe I am town, then there is nothing I can do. You have 110 pages to judge me upon. Please keep in mind the best reads take into account the people behind the character.

[dicetosser1]

sili  i dont know you therefore I dont have anyway to judge the person behind the character. All i can do is take what you say here in this game

[Sili Quirrels]

Perhaps then, consider engaging me in discussion or listening to others who know me better.

 

This seems to me a very reasonable expectation.

[dicetosser1]

so talk to me about the game. what are your reads. Why are they ure reads? and dont sponge on others

[Tommyrod]

Okay, let's talk about what we learned from the CFD events:

 

-Manbat is reinforced as a continual blueread for his high energy and worry.

 

-Alanna is now very close to blue. She was having fun with the CFD energy and that's probably a villager tell unless she's a sicko like me.

 

-Sili is blue-green for being legitimately irritated at his impending lynch.

 

-BFKey is now green simply for getting annoyed that they were still discussing the merits of lynching Berf before the CFD and for being around at all.

 

-Berf is green for a very villagery series of responses to his impending doom. He read as very sincere and would have to be a very very high level wolf to have made the posts he did at EOD.

 

-Rags could have done that as a wolf, but I'd say he earned like 2 points and is about green-null.

 

-Arsis didn't have a significant impact on the events, and stays about the same. I'd give him maybe 1 point for the comment about being nervous before a lynch.

 

-Verb loses some cred for being reactive instead of proactive during the EOD events.

 

 

And the people that didn't participate:

 

-Lates loses a little cred for not being around during a high-energy village-driven event.

 

-Dice loses a little cred for the same.

 

-Des loses a little cred for being absent.

 

-Cory/Hallia lose more credit for the same as they're both typically active during EODs when they're villagers.

 

-Pral is something of a mystery. He sounds villagery-ish to me when he's around, but I think he's been pushing villagers so far.

 

-AJ claimed survivor, doesn't care.

 

 

So even though we mislynched, we still got a lot out of info out of the threadflow alone and the way people react to high energy tumultuous periods.

Still good.

[Tommyrod]

Kinda worried that Des didn't actually say anything when he came in here. He just continued his "I'll get you Thomas!!" evil villain routine and chastised people for listening to me.

 

That's not going to cut it for long.

[Tommyrod]

Though maybe if he was scum he would try harder...?

 

Depends on how busy he is perhaps.

 

He's remind me a bit of his recent SK play.

[Thane Vakarian]

 

you killed me on halloween.... i will haunt you all!

[Yates]

He's [Des] remind me a bit of his recent SK play.

LOL.  No.  Not at all.

[Yates]

you killed me on halloween.... i will haunt you all!

I'm sorry, bro.  I should have been there for you but - beer and pumpkin carving???

[Tommyrod]

 

 

He's [Des] remind me a bit of his recent SK play.

LOL. No. Not at all.

Nonchalant, full of nonsense, but still in his villa range? What would you call it? Des on Valium?

[Yates]

Still good.

LOL - either you are color blind or your grays and greens are completely backward.

[Yates]

Nonchalant, full of nonsense, but still in his villa range? What would you call it? Des on Valium?

This is Des Town as well. Plus, he was a hydra. Not sure how he could/would be read the same as a hydra and as an individual. There's a tenacity he has as scum that is missing here.

 

Also, he is being vilified for playing the game. I don't understand it. He isn't even in full Des tunnel mode yet, people.