[Advanced] Revenge of the Marlfox

[Sili Quirrels]

2 minutes.

[Sili Quirrels]

shrug... deadline hit. no hammer.

 

##unvote in the case there's an extension

[Nynaeve]

 

20 minutes till deadline

Boo. An extension is in order.

 

 

If Krak shows up and decides to give you one...... up to him.

[monstrman]

I was asleeeeeeeep

[monstrman]

nnnnnnnnnnnooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo

[Hallia]

And I myself was headed in to work, evil west coast time. In the event of an extension

 

##vote BFKey

[Sili Quirrels]

lol. best case scenarios, three more days to game end.

 

worst case scenario, game never ends.

[Nynaeve]

guys, keep talking and voting and such. When Krak shows he's either gonna disregard it or give an extension. So just in case..... might as well keep talking IMO.

 

 

We did contemplate giving an 8 hours extension but he never gave me a final answer, so I can't say for sure. Sorry.

[Sili Quirrels]

i feel like my emotional state is represented perfectly by this cat

[Hallia]

Forrrrrrever, forrrrrever

[BFG]

I'm here :/

[BFG]

What makes you think he's lying? There are bad reasons in his posts; they appear fabricated at points - but this is the same guy who made my signature.

 

Anyway, I'm not sure if I believe Halia, and I'm trying to go over the possibilities in my head, but It's all a mess because I'm all dried up and haven't paid much attention to the last 20 pages or so. I want to frame my thoughts by way of another poe to jog a spark in my wim, but damn it's hard to think of a reason why.

He said that he protected us Night 3 so we could protect Tommy. Given Tommy died Night 2 it was physically impossible for us to protect Tommy. Therefore thinking we'd protect Tommy can NOT have entered his thinking at all. As such his reason was made up and bogus. He's avoided giving an alternative explanation to Dice (soon after he slipped) and me twice today, he's tried brushing it off by misrepresenting what I've said, but hasn't come close to answering the question yet.

[Sili Quirrels]

I'm here :/

then why didn't you vote yourself?

 

Also speak up sooner

[BFG]

 

 

 

I watched Des last night, and no one visited him.

I'm not even going to weigh the merit of wasting the watcher ability on Des.

 

If you are to believe Hally, then that means that scum RBed us *AND* tried to kill us last night.

 

OR - there is no scum RB.

Man bat was saved by the JK N1.

We were protected/blocked by the JK N3.

We were saved/blocked by the JK last night.

Hally is Scum JOAT.

Des is a LLL trying desperately to save his scum JOAT.

Lynch Hally today.

Profit???

 

We targeted Dice Night 3, rest seems ok.

 

 

Which would mean there is a scum RB. Because Yates was blocked N3.

 

We know this from Night 2

[Sili Quirrels]

Uh, should also take votes off key in the event there's an extension o.O L-1 is bad. L-2 is okay till we hash this out.

[BFG]

 

I'm here :/

then why didn't you vote yourself?

 

Also speak up sooner

 

 

Just back from work

[BFG]

so after all those latest posts...does anyone STILL think BFG/key is scum???  Shes basically screaming town

[BFG]

 

so after all those latest posts...does anyone STILL think BFG/key is scum???  Shes basically screaming town

 

 

 

Why are you avoiding answering WHY you protected us Night 3?

[BFG]

 

FTR Correct Votecount:

 

 

Hallia(1): Monstr

BFKEY(5): Des, Pral, Alanna, Hallia, Rags

Des(4): Sili, Dice, BFKEY, Lates

 

With 6 needed to achieve a lynch, no lynch was achieved.

So, Yates, what happened here? How did scum bottle this up?

 

If we assume Des and BFG both to be town, then from my perspective, there are two scum teams - Hallia/Rags/Alanna or Lates/Sili/Dice. Because if not, they could have easily switched to lynch either BFG or Des. 

 

In that case, what happened to the 4th scum? Or is there a 4th scum at all?

 

Couple of scenarios I can think about are,

1. Monstr's phone went dead and he was not able to secure the lynch

2. Sili might have assumed hybrid hammer and thought BFG was already lynched (unlikely, because he would have been warned in the scum QT)

 

So, unless we consider these scenarios, there is no way I see Des and BFG both town. One of them have to be scum.

 

This makes me question you even more than I already am :/

 

If you believe that both Des and I are town than the above teams make no sense sense as either group could have switched votes to secure a lynch.

 

But Manbat would have to be the fourth person on a team, if Des was town, one reason I think he's mafia.

[BFG]

I was asleeeeeeeep

You should probably vote whoever anyway. It may be counted /shrug

[Pralaya]

 

 

FTR Correct Votecount:

 

 

Hallia(1): Monstr

BFKEY(5): Des, Pral, Alanna, Hallia, Rags

Des(4): Sili, Dice, BFKEY, Lates

 

With 6 needed to achieve a lynch, no lynch was achieved.

So, Yates, what happened here? How did scum bottle this up?

 

If we assume Des and BFG both to be town, then from my perspective, there are two scum teams - Hallia/Rags/Alanna or Lates/Sili/Dice. Because if not, they could have easily switched to lynch either BFG or Des. 

 

In that case, what happened to the 4th scum? Or is there a 4th scum at all?

 

Couple of scenarios I can think about are,

1. Monstr's phone went dead and he was not able to secure the lynch

2. Sili might have assumed hybrid hammer and thought BFG was already lynched (unlikely, because he would have been warned in the scum QT)

 

So, unless we consider these scenarios, there is no way I see Des and BFG both town. One of them have to be scum.

 

This makes me question you even more than I already am :/

 

If you believe that both Des and I are town than the above teams make no sense sense as either group could have switched votes to secure a lynch.

 

But Manbat would have to be the fourth person on a team, if Des was town, one reason I think he's mafia.

 

 

Er, that is exactly what I am also saying. I am saying you both cannot be town together.

[BFG]

but if you want to figure out possible teams with Des and I as town then you need to assume a split vote, and then look to see who wasn't around (so effectively had their vote flocked and couldn't switch). Splitting the teams by the people voting the same train is lazy.

 

For example a team consisting of

 

Manbat, Pral, Hallia and either Dice, Serf or Lates couldn't have achieved a lynch on either of us, assuming that Serf or Dice missed Rags vote, since your vote was locked on me and Manbat missed deadline. I don't think that group is likely since if Manbat were mafia at Lyle there's very little chance that he'd risk not voting, however mechanically the group is possible.

[BFG]

But it's a moot point since Des is almost certainly mafia

[BFG]

I'm going to reread Day 4, I want to know who was around at deadline to work out why the lynch failed. And EOD1 again.

 

However my battery is dying (and obvious internet connection problems are obvious), so I'm not sure how far I'll get.

[Pralaya]

but if you want to figure out possible teams with Des and I as town then you need to assume a split vote, and then look to see who wasn't around (so effectively had their vote flocked and couldn't switch). Splitting the teams by the people voting the same train is lazy.

 

For example a team consisting of

 

Manbat, Pral, Hallia and either Dice, Serf or Lates couldn't have achieved a lynch on either of us, assuming that Serf or Dice missed Rags vote, since your vote was locked on me and Manbat missed deadline. I don't think that group is likely since if Manbat were mafia at Lyle there's very little chance that he'd risk not voting, however mechanically the group is possible.

 

Why? All the scum need is a lynch and clearly they wouldn't be split up at deadline. it is possible someone might have missed - which is what I am also theorizing - or one of you two is scum.