[Advanced] Revenge of the Marlfox

[Arsis]

Cory is gone but he was terribad early on.

[Arsis]

Alanna is having a flying under the radar consensus read type game.

[Arsis]

Dice has been meh. Rags has been meh.

[Arsis]

Manbat is my only strong town read which probably makes him scum.

[Arsis]

If I had to bet my left testicle I'd say we hit 2/3 scum if we lynch Hallia, verb and alanna.

[Arsis]

Noe stop being snarky/passive aggressive and play the game.

[monstrman]

Manbat is my only strong town read which probably makes him scum.

 

lol nope your instincts are good this time

[TheRagnarok]

 

 

 

 

practically the entire game is calling rags scum

 

but we all avoid voting him

 

*whoosh*

Because there's literally no reason to vote me except a process of elimination based off of what are likely a couple fake claims.

 

Which would just be brilliant.

Which claims are fake in your opinion?

 

That's the issue.  I'm not sure right now.  If I had a good idea, I'd be all over them.

 

Which is why I want to lynch someone who I think has been scummy in Verb so that we can try to use night actions to sort this out. 

 

honestly I think this might actually be the most villagery thing I've seen in this thread so far

 

which is strange

 

Oh goodie for me. 

 

If you had to vote for someone right now...who would it be?

[monstrman]

Tommy

[monstrman]

##Tommy

[monstrman]

No seriously though I don't have a clue

 

I'd say verbal/alanna tbh because enough of the thread seems to want him dead but there's also enough resistance to their deaths to make them >rand wolf imo

[Sili Quirrels]

i'm undecided about arsis. self-vote is shifty, but spew afterward pings me as town.

 

back to verbal iso?

 

who knows, maybe there's something to it. but it just doesn't make as much sense to me without a desp core and leelou salad.

[Sili Quirrels]

##unvote

[dicetosser1]

gun to head i might go verbal.

 

hes been iffing along on me all game and his flip might allow me to solidify my read on des.

 

Im voting hallia cause i have not liked her recent responses.

[monstrman]

##Voible

[dicetosser1]

allright im willing to try this

 

unvote ##vote verbal

[hazelkrs1]

practically the entire game is calling rags scum

 

but we all avoid voting him

 

*whoosh*

 

It is? I must have missed that...

 

And apart from associative stuff and claim stuff, he's prob my strongest town read atm fyi

 

 

That's the issue.  I'm not sure right now.  If I had a good idea, I'd be all over them.

 

 

Which is why I want to lynch someone who I think has been scummy in Verb so that we can try to use night actions to sort this out. 

 

honestly I think this might actually be the most villagery thing I've seen in this thread so far

 

which is strange

 

 

It's also a sentiment I heavily agree with and support (lynching Verb, scummiest player atm, and letting NA's sort out other stuff to hopefully clear up situation better)

 

Verb. Hallia. Silix2 being the most guilty imo with des a close second in complete lack of town tells.

 

*barklaugh*

 

Cory is gone but he was terribad early on.

 

Yeah I don't really think so. He wasn't obvtown, but he certainly wasn't anywhere near terribad. You're slinging the same schlepped pile of goods Verb is, cause yall are scumbros.

 

allright im willing to try this

 

unvote ##vote verbal

 

 

Just for this Dice I'm going to iso you tonight and see if I can resolve your slot better besides just the connection with Verb thing. It's POSSIBLE he was just acting awkward with his read on you all game cause he thought you'd be a good backup lynch at some point and could be like "yeah, I had off feelings about him all game"

[Sili Quirrels]

i'm actually rather impressed with your iso of verb. it isn't nearly as messy as the others, and the ideas are pretty straightforward: awkward phrasing, soft nudges, and advocating poor decisions for town. i picked up on a few of these myself.

 

still, i get the feeling these are only scum!tells in a vacuum, because it was that way for me.

[Sili Quirrels]

how well do you know verbal, desp?

[hazelkrs1]

Very well. We've played many mafia games together, I've seen a good bit of him as either alignment (and also rolled scum with him in the past, and actually we did VERY well in those games together hehe )

 

As scum, his big tells are:

 

1. Less confidence

2. Awkward tone at times

3. Spends more time talking about OT stuff

4. Tendency to be opportunistic, especially if scum is doing well

5. This is a big one- he's big about using NA's to silence people he thinks are raising questions or concerns that will be difficult to address. Some scummers don't play this way, feeling that killing the person who is launching the accusations will only prove them right. Verb isn't really this way, he prefers to silence the slot and try and talk his way out of any suspicion afterwards

 

He's reasonably good at distancing/bussing teammates, is good at directing NA's as scum, and def knows how to handle pressure well- and even on the hotseat can make townie-looking posts.

 

I can link you to some of his scum games, if you like.

[Sili Quirrels]

actually, if you could link one of his town games that would be terrific. i want to compare tone and get a better idea of what 'awkward' is for him. i have a theory that someone's villager game is a lot more revealing of their character.

[Pralaya]

~4 Wolves in

 

Pral

Alanna

Rags

Arsis

Yates

Key

Dice

Berf

 

So let's try to clear half this list and lunch from the rest

 

Shouldn't be too hard

 

Tommy being GOAT here. That's the lynch pool. 

[Pralaya]

May add verbal to it, that's about it.

And, of course, I know I am town. So, that makes it simpler for me.

[hazelkrs1]

Still looking over the Dice iso (not gonna make a big case on him tonight, just reviewing it), and here's the stuff I'm noticing so far:

 

His early thing against Dice was meh. But his tone in the way he went after it was good.

 

He calls out Arsis and Verb early on- since I believe there is a VERY good chance both are scum here, this makes Dice seem less likely as a teammate. Dice as scum will be happy to distance, but isn't busheavy (the main post I'm referring to early on is #732, his top two scum reads are Verb and Arsis). Additionally the way he follows up on his Arsis suspicions looks pretty decent.

 

He has some back and forth with Tommy, but this would be very easy for scum!Dice to emulate honestly. Tommy just rubs Dice the wrong way a lot, and Dice has caught scum!Tommy multiple times before only to have town eat everything Tommy was spoonfeeding them. So their history makes that interaction throughout the thread null.

 

Pushes the "let's kill Tommy the Beloved Princess so scum can't kill him late game" thing that I have already addressed irt Verb and others... not good.

 

His tone in pushing Sili1.0 when he was being lynched looks good. I think that kind of tone there would be harder for scum!Dice to fake. He continues following up on his reads fairly well, however I will mention that he drops the Verbal scum read after he brought him up early on. That's not necessarily that damning however- Verb's thread presence dropped big time after his early push on Thane, and Verb later on was mainly snarking it up against Tommy, which would have slid by town!Dice's attention fairly easily.

 

Sorry this is turning into more of an actual iso, but this response to something I asked about Dice and how town flips on some of his reads looked good to me at the time, and still looks good to me now in fact.

 

Ugh. Had a series of posts where I'm starting to consider more and more that Dice might be town after all, then I see this post again which sets off all kinds of alarms. Blech. His reaction to Yates' "gambit" didn't look that sketchy at least.

 

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Okay, iso reviewed. I will say it's PLAUSIBLE Dice could be town even with a Verbal scumflip, but eh... I'm def not even close to being able to clear him. Guess I could keep an eye on him and see how that goes.

 

I WILL say that seeing his claim and the way he did it, I actually kinda find myself wanting to believe it, despite a number of questionable things I still find about him.

[hazelkrs1]

 

~4 Wolves in

 

Pral

Alanna

Rags

Arsis

Yates

Key

Dice

Berf

 

So let's try to clear half this list and lunch from the rest

 

Shouldn't be too hard

 

Tommy being GOAT here. That's the lynch pool. 

 

 

 

May add verbal to it, that's about it.

And, of course, I know I am town. So, that makes it simpler for me.

 

These posts don't really seem that productive Pray, at all.

 

What's up? You playing something close to the chest? I feel like since spammers have gone down more and your thread presence has gone up, you should be GOATing it up right about now. Why aint ya?