[Advanced] Revenge of the Marlfox

[hazelkrs1]

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[Sili Quirrels]

Alanna:

 

 

 

Town Meta: infj. reasonable. long paragraphs. Empathic-type reads. Good player. Sporadically active.

 

I think I first considered her being scum at around page 60. I forget why, in particular, but it was like she ended a statement short or something. As she posted i revised this opinion. Her comments reminded me of her play-style when she was town.

 

She put to words, differently, why tom was middle of the road between scum and village. it was unusually helpful, and i went with the flow. i commented she was town at several points at various levels of certainty. i've become more sure recently.

 

As town i think she often hedges, so i don't read much into it. when she posted an explanation of her read on me, i thought it was understandable and accurate - probably something I would think if i had to judge my actions through a third party's eyes. it took me a while to respond to it because i had to contemplate a proper response, which should probably evidence that it was on point regardless of my alignment.

 

She got brownie points for being active at eod and on board with the cfd that saved me.

 

She got points today for consideration and paying enough attention to the thread to pick up on my soft claim (which may or may not be accurate; come@me scum) and incorporate it into her reads.

 

 

 

In general a few of her thought processes I have thought, would think, or do think myself. So when someone's arguments make that much sense, I kind of have to clear them, i figure.

 

unless they're tom. though usually with tom i agree on a surface level.

[Sili Quirrels]

Again, how would you know?

 

Cause Tom is probably town and I'm definitely town. Duh.

[TheRagnarok]

 

Okay not going to spoiler this excerpt because this is the person who got caught most cleanly by my gambit-

 

##Vote Alanna

 

So...how does this make a difference? I mean, if Arsis is to believed, then no one visited Tommy last night, meaning he wasn't doc protected. Which either means Despo is town and is lying to get Tommy lynched, Despo is scum and is lying to get Tommy lynched, or Despo is town and was roleblocked by a town roleblocker.

 

This right here is as good as a scumclaim. Others pointed it out immediately after, but yeah Alanna slips and doesn't put what WOULD HAVE BEEN prob the easiest and most likely outcome here- that I was telling the truth, and that Tommy was scum and had a scumbro RB me

 

But why doesn't she list this as a possibility? Because she knows two things- that Tommy isn't scum, and that the scum team didn't RB me

 

Bing bang boom. She slipped, and is scum. Period, end of story.

 

Or, you know, Arsis is lying. 

 

She slips this in immediately as a little blurb, but again doesn't mention the possibility of Tommy being scum EVEN THO EARLIER was entertaining that idea (I'll post that in a little while)

 

Incidentally, both Sili and Alanna also did exactly what I suspected scum would do in this situation- speculate more about a town RB'er having blocked me (since scum would have known they didn't block me)

 

These quotes are before the slip above

 

besides can't a roleblocker be town too... why can't a town roleblocker believe tom's claim and despot's and roleblock despot. :|

 

 

I've seen town roleblockers, though, so... isn't it possible a town RB blocked Despo?

 

@Rags: I still haven't seen anything particularly scummy for Verb. I know you found his tone fake in some posts, but he sounds like the same usual Verb to me.

 

So yeah, both were throwing out the possibility of a town RB'er. Now, I had a STRONG suspicion of Sili being scum before this, but also had some niggling feelings against Alanna as well, which I will get to later. Regardless, both exhibiting the scum reactions I was looking for with my gambit here makes both extremely good scum suspects for me (Alanna's slip makes her LOCK SCUM)

 

Here are the immediate reactions to her slip:

 

Why would Despot have been blocked by a Town RB?

 

I like that AJ immediately asks this, is in fact the first, however he isn't really pointing out a slip per se. He seems more confused about the mention of a town RBing me in the first place. The confusion reads very genuine however, doesn't look like a wolf trying to play dumb.

 

 

So...how does this make a difference? I mean, if Arsis is to believed, then no one visited Tommy last night, meaning he wasn't doc protected. Which either means Despo is town and is lying to get Tommy lynched, Despo is scum and is lying to get Tommy lynched, or Despo is town and was roleblocked by a town roleblocker. 

Why must it be a town?

 

That aside, I think the chances are low that both the vig and wolfpack nk were blocked separately, by mere happenstance.

 

 

Sili calls out the slip somewhat, and in fact this is one of the ONLY things going in Sili's favor right now for him possibly being town this game. Def not clearable however, since he asks it in a softball sort of way

 

 

Or, you know, Arsis is lying.

Or Despo is telling the truth and was blocked by a scum roleblocker. 4th option you conveniently left out.

 

 

This helps LOCK CLEAR Arsis however, since he calls out the slip boldly and cleanly. Already believed the Watcher claim before this however so meh.

 

 

 

Or, you know, Arsis is lying.

Or Despo is telling the truth and was blocked by a scum roleblocker. 4th option you conveniently left out.

 

 

I guess if Tommy is scum, then it's possible. I was thinking from the angle of Tommy telling the truth about being BP.

 

 

Bahahahaahaha NOPE. This response is invalid. Alanna said "Which means either blah, blah, or blah" and followed it up with "or blah" indicating she was trying to cover all bases. There is NO WAY I can be convinced she was trying to look at it from the angle that Tommy was def telling the truth, since that is clearly not the case if you read how she delivered her posts, and moreover if she was really a confused villager trying to figure out a confusing situation like she tries to act after this, then there is no way she automatically assumes Tommy is telling the truth.

 

No, town!Alanna would NOT have left out the possibility of Tommy being scum there. She knew Tommy wasn't scum, and knew scum didn't block me.

 

Also, I think we can all see that there is potentially at least one person in this game who could be town and would block Despo. He's only said it a few times now  

 

So Alanna is talking about Sili here, and the way she says "who could be town" entrenches her scumminess even moar, and makes it very likely that Sili is scum with her. Also looks like her trying to set up Sili for saying he blocked me had I not revealed the gambit already

 

The way I see it, Tommy, Arsis, and Despo could all be telling the truth if Despo was blocked by a town RB. I'm not saying it's a very likely scenario - mostly just because I think town Roleblockers are not used very often, and, as Sili pointed out, it's just unlikely that the scum nk and a vig kill are blocked on the same night by two different roles.

 

So, possible? Yes. But I'm feeling it's likelier one of them is lying.

 

Frankly, I'd like to sleep on it, I'll be heading to bed soon anyway and I'm too tired to think on it much more right now. Want to hear what everyone else thinks, too.

 

 

The hilarious thing here is that Alanna herself says it's unlikely that a town RB'er blocked me... and yet that has been really the only possibility she has focused on since I first said I legit shot Tommy.

 

She was settling on this possibility, as unlikely as it was, because she had inside knowledge, yo

 

 

Despot, I have a favor to ask. 

 

Please compare my responses to your gambit with Alanna's.

 

I ask this because I have had Alanna as a town lean and I would like to see the differences in how the two of us reacted.  I think that would give me a better bearing on where you are coming from.  it would give me a control so to speak.

[Sili Quirrels]

Ftr this is one of my town tells on despot

 

His fangs dig deeper as town

 

Not my super secret one though his range must be kept pure

 

!!!

That's fair enough, but honestly, while I do respect you, I can't clear him just because you say so. I'd need a reason. A good one, considering.

[Sili Quirrels]

Ragnarok:

 

 

he comes into the thread, says he hadn't recieved a pm. i figure, well if krak forgot a pm he's likely vanilla, and i was kind of on a high from being so right about stuff (probably being right about tom ripley in the tmf game) i say it aloud. around 4 or 5 posts later i doubletake and consider he's lying.

 

in general he reminds me of the ragnarok in the vs game so i haven't had reason to question his alignment, and i already have a scum team so there's really no point.

 

RAGI WHAT DO YOU THINK of my read of you.

[Sili Quirrels]

it's awfully short cause i don't have much to contribute.

[Sili Quirrels]

Dingus:

 

 

I wouldn't be surprised if both him and tom flipped scum.

 

Then I would be.

 

Then I wouldn't.

 

Then I would be.

 

It occurs to me i haven't mentioned the beloved princess nonsense and how i thought it was a fake claim. well it doesn't matter now.

 

My read of dingus has been mostly dependent on my feel of him from my only other game with him, and it's been consistent, and tom's read.

 

Whatever, I'm tired.

 

 

 

[Sili Quirrels]

Sigh.

 

That's enough. I've put in enough effort not to be blamed for my lynch.

 

It's up to you village. glglgl.

 

Going to float from now to the end of the day.

[TheRagnarok]

 

Ragnarok:

 

 

he comes into the thread, says he hadn't recieved a pm. i figure, well if krak forgot a pm he's likely vanilla, and i was kind of on a high from being so right about stuff (probably being right about tom ripley in the tmf game) i say it aloud. around 4 or 5 posts later i doubletake and consider he's lying.

 

in general he reminds me of the ragnarok in the vs game so i haven't had reason to question his alignment, and i already have a scum team so there's really no point.

 

RAGI WHAT DO YOU THINK of my read of you.

 

My juju may be rusty, but at least my play style is still consistent.

 

There's a reason people say I can't be read.

[Sili Quirrels]

Spooky.

[hazelkrs1]

Alanna iso:

 

 

 

 

A lot of her early posts seem like they could def go in the "scum white knighting a townie" category with the way she constantly sort of rushes to the defense of someone getting early attention. Do not like.

 

FYI, Yates, I don't really see manbat or Tommy as being illogical, I just think they're meta-reading each other as town right now. That's what I got.

 

 

Thane thinking Krak had intentionally roled a female player as a female character was definitely super weird, but I'm not sure I find it scummy. If it had come out of nowhere, but he seemed to be responding to Krak pointing out there could be clues or hints in the scenes he writes.

 

 

Verb and Leelou always interact 'closely' because they know each other well. That's a null tell, really. It's actually in the way they don't interact that can be a scumtell for one or both of them. They're very avoidy on each other as scum. I'm not getting that from either of them atm, though there hasn't been a ton of interaction from them yet.

 

 

I'm at work and on mobile, and we all know how I feel about that, so I'll make this quick.

About the alliances/hard clearing: to me, I treat this as a null tell on people. You don't have to stop looking at those players just because they've decided to trust each other. Just because they cleared each other doesn't mean everyone else has to back off. But there are people I really won't vote on Day 1 too, so I get where they're coming from.

A lot of the big interactions ITT are feeling very villagery to me. Makes me wonder if the scum are in the slankers.

I'll give an updated reads list later this evening, I want to look back at some parts of the game.

 

Something else she does a lot throughout the game, especially early on, is the classic scumtell of "Let me give town updates on my upcoming activity level!" which obviously seems like self-consciousness on her part. Underlined in above post.

 

 

I'm going to have to look back at berf's post. I'm thinking it was not as bad as some people think it was. There are others who haven't posted much - Pral and Rags come to mind - so I don't know why this is so scummy from berf. I haven't played with him in a while and don't really remember what his activity is usually like, but just because he's not a prolific poster so far warrants 4 votes?

 

 

 

 

I'm actually not liking him much atm, though it's more to do with recent posts of his than that early stuff. I will make a full post on that when I get home.

 

 

This was irt Thane, who she semi-WK'ed earlier. So flip floppish here.

 

And moar updating and promising of future and more detailed posts.

 

I'm unsure about Arsis. I don't think I've ever played with him before, and I keep see-sawing on whether or not I'm finding him scummy atm. Some of his early stuff from about 24 hours ago was pinging for me, but others were saying he seemed within his meta. And some of his more recent stuff I've kind of agreed with, though I think he was pushing it a little far.

 

I really have to get the gym, but I will look more at Arsis and Thane when I get back (some of Thane's more recent posts where he was defending Tommy bugged me) and post my thoughts.

 

Bad hedging post, and moar updating and promising of future more detailed posts.

 

Key was scum in Nyn's Buffy game, I believe. That was in Thak, though, and I think you have to be a member of Shayol Ghul to see Thak now, which I am not. What I remember about Key in that game is that she looked super townie to me all game lol. So I'm feeling not very confident about reading her.

 

Italics- displays a special sort of unease about reading Key. She follows this up later. Often scumbros will say they have a hard time reading one another, to keep from having to get pinned down on reads of eachother.

 

Def supports my theory of a Alanna/BFKey scum pairing

 

Sili, I vote you stay. I like you.

 

Can I just say, I really don't get why Despo gets such strong reactions against him. He's playing the game. And it is a game. Like, calm down, guys. Why does everyone get so upset and quit so easily these days? It's mafia. It's a game. Play and have fun.

 

Anyway. I don't think Despo is totally off the rails and his theory about Tommy fakeclaiming could be possible, but Arsis' counter claim actually makes me more inclined to believe Tommy. And while at this point I would not be opposed to lynching Arsis simply because what the hell, dude, I think we should look at other people and hear from others before moving forward. Tbh, I think it was a good idea to put some pressure on Tommy for a while, but I don't think we should tunnel solely on him Day 1 either. For now, I'm willing to let the claim sit.

 

Bolded was Alanna hedging and falling for my Tommy trap somewhat.

 

Also really bad tone in that last paragraph in general- she gets wordy and repetitive and redundant, like she's struggling to not look scummy while hedging on Tommy.

 

I've only skim-read the last few pages, but I'm not feeling that Verb is scummy atm. I'm not sure I agree with his read on dice, but it's Day 1 and I know I'm struggling to form any solid reads, and I feel like that's where Verb is at too.

I don't have any strong scumreads. I'm leery about Tommy, Arsis, Thane, monstr, and AJ, though to differing degrees. My strongest town read is Lates, and I'm leaning town also on Cuddles, Sili, and Despo.

I need to look back at Key/BFG and dice, because I know they've posted but can't recall much if it.

Anyway, my lunch is about over, be back after work.

 

Bold: Hedging (basically in her first gameplay post of the game she opened with "I don't have any strong scumreads") and also her "leery about" list is pretty bad and likely contains zero wolves, and pay attention to Sili in her town reads

 

Italics: More promising of future posts, potentially reinforcing the distancing between her and Key

 

Underlined: More status updates

 

Just looked over Key's ISO. IDK. I liked her last big post where she gave reads on a bunch of people, because a lot of her thoughts jived with mine. Before that it seems she was mostly prodding at people for clarification on things or to get them to elaborate. Which is a pretty null thing, I suppose.

 

I have a lot of trouble reading Key, so I wouldn't mind going with her/BFG for a Day 1 lynch, but since they've got a good number of votes on them at the moment, I'll hold off there for now.

 

Uck. At the time BFG/Key was really the only wagon, and even tho Alanna had multiple times stated some discomfort with their play this game, and even here she states she wouldn't ming going with a lynch on them, she still doesn't vote because "they've got a good number of votes on them at the moment". I think it was like 4. This strengthens the Alanna/BFKey scumbro connection even more

 

So, berf/Arsis trains? I pretty much could go either way.

Arsis' play has been bugging me, but this is my first game with him, I think, so I'd be willing to see how he plays out for a little longer. Though I wouldn't mind lynching him just for the trolling :(

I will go with ##berf for now. His post didn't ping me as much as it did some others, but I also really thought he'd have posted more by now. Maybe he'll turn up with a train growing on him.

 

This flip flop post reeks because for the longest time she had Arsis as a scum lean, and was saying Berf didn't seem that scummy, yet jumps aboard with a Berf lynch all the same.

 

Tone fail too- "wouldn't mind lynching him just for the trolling" "his post didn't ping me as much as it did some others" "maybe he'll turn up with a train growing on him". Last comment might be ominous of a Alanna/Berf scum connection as well- since Berf DID show up miraculously and soon enough got "cleared" because he showed up at such an opportune time (which is just btw, in what world does that seem like a good idea to clear someone???)

 

Sili

Despo

Pral

Verb

Thane

Alanna

Rags

Arsis

Lates

Cuddles

Tommy

BFKey

Monstr

dice

berf

 

That's where I'm at. Two-colored means I'm back-and-forth. Frankly, I tend to vote late in the day on Day 1 and I like to park my vote and see what kind of scrambling happens ITT. But since it's not hybrid hammer, I am open to changing my vote. I would pretty much vote any of my orange or yellow reads, though obviously I'd prefer the orange.

 

Pretty turrible reads list right here. Too many nulls or hedge reads, a strange and unexplained flip flop on Sili, and her two strongest reads, Thane and Berf, were basically the two people she first rushed to the defense of, and never really gave good reasons for eventually suspecting.

 

I'm back.

 

Hey berf. Why shouldn't we lynch you?

 

Posturing imo, or possibly setting up a teammate to get saved by the bell

 

 

 

AKA, we get no info and can spend Day 2 floundering around as much as Day 1. 

 

Although there is night actions, I suppose. But that's not good enough, IMO.

 

 

Fearmongering and bad tone

 

 

What's the Sili all about please?

 

Tommy -> Ragnarok scum why? I had a townread of you before so go.

 

You shouldn't lynch me because I'm a zero info lynch. I haven't been here to interact with anybody and establish connections which gives town nothing to go off regarding the wagon day 2. I'm guessing the Sili wagon has some reasons though?

 

If you want my claim I'll give it, but mostly because of the above I wouldn't advocate my lynch. I think I had like 2 posts? Which is terrible, yes, but not alignment indicative.

 

I think you just need to skim the past few pages to see why people are voting Sili. His wagon started not that long ago.

 

For me, Sili dropped from a green read to a yellow read, starting yesterday, though it was mostly tinfoiling at first. I'd been reading him town because he was making a lot more sense to me this game, as opposed to Firefly where he was all over the place for me. But then I started wondering if he was talking more sense because he was being coached. On top of that, I didn't like his reaction/analysis of AJ's claim. Though he's a new player, so that could explain that.

 

 

Uck at this post. All over the place in her read on Sili. Doesn't seem to be engaging Berf to discern his alignment, which is weird considering her previous post to him "Why shouldn't we lynch you"

 

I could go Thane. Let's do it. You're inspiring me, Tommy :D Also I'm getting annoyed that no one one else is around right now.

 

I feel kinda bad though, because isn't he usually asleep around this time?

 

##Thane

 

 

Capslock!Tommy is cracking me up.

 

But seriously, anyone who's around, get on this Thane wagon nao. If you're not already on it.

 

 

I've never been part of a CFD before. It was fun. And I agree we'll get much better info off this than berf. 

 

 

I'm really proud of us right now. Kind of.

 

A lot of Alanna's post around EOD reeked imo. Kinda disappointed she got cleared by so many for her participation. People like Tommy and others give WAAAAAAAAY too many brownie points for EOD participation. Her participation was entirely superficial, she didn't drive any of the CFD's herself and had bad tone throughout.

 

"get on this Thane wagon nao. If you're not already on it"

 

"I feel kinda bad though, because isn't he usually asleep around this time?"

 

"I'm really proud of us right now. Kind of"

 

 

The theory was that the Sili wagon grew to fast. But nobody thought that about the Thane wagon? Plus you all know Thane is still blissfully asleep looking forward to waking up Halloween morning to check on the game and is going to do his decapitation routine IRL. TOTAL mislynch bait.

 

I don't think the Sili wagon growing too fast was the only reason; a few people who were online at the time were not down for voting him, and since quite a few people were absent and we had less than ONE HOUR til deadline, we needed to get a lynch on someone we could all agree on. Tommy noticed several of us had Thane in yellow or orange leads, and therefore started the CFD on him. And yeah, it was a fast wagon - because we had less than ONE HOUR til deadline.

 

Sorry, but I'm a little miffed that people who weren't around to contribute are criticizing the fast lynch.

 

 

Mock outrage yo!

 

 

I may or may not have things to combat said heat

Also yeah. Thane's game this go around was so different! He was engaging, very active for him. Not sure how that train formed. I do wonder that the other trains forming gained no traction, but his did.

Also, @ Berf - you haven't played in a lonnnnnng time, I don't remember your play style.

 

Me too. Because that's why the Thane train formed - in spite of the fact that berf, I think, had 6 votes on him at one point, and Sili too, at one point, had 5 or 6 votes on him at one point, it really seemed that a lynch on either one was not going to happen. We had pretty much the exact number of people we needed to lynch online at that point, so we all had to agree somewhere. There were too many people saying "I definitely won't lynch Sili" or "I definitely will not lynch berf." That definitely means there were probably a couple of scum on Thane's wagon, maybe more than a couple. It also could point to Sili or berf being scum. I would lean more towards Sili, mostly just because I can definitely see why some people would have a problem with lynching berf. I'm gonna look back at it all more closely after I get some breakfast.

 

 

Bold: DAT FLIP FLOP. Consensus reads, much?

 

Underlined: Moar promises of future posts, which come from self-conscious scum many times

 

Left out a bunch of more recent posts which I already covered

 

 

TLDR: Just read the friggin iso people. Aint that big.

[TheRagnarok]

Spooky.

The key is always remembering that it's a game.  That keeps it fun and light-hearted for me which means my tone is consistent.  Cause at the end of the day, what happens in one mafia game is not going to effect my life in any way.

 

Now, some games I have more WIM, a less hectic RL schedule, get more drunk, etc etc. So not every game is exactly the same, but they change due to circumstances outside the thread so I rarely bring them up as they're not relevant, even though some people try to say it's alignment indicative.  Hint, it's not. 

[hazelkrs1]

Alanna:

 

 

 

Town Meta: infj. reasonable. long paragraphs. Empathic-type reads. Good player. Sporadically active.

 

I think I first considered her being scum at around page 60. I forget why, in particular, but it was like she ended a statement short or something. As she posted i revised this opinion. Her comments reminded me of her play-style when she was town.

 

She put to words, differently, why tom was middle of the road between scum and village. it was unusually helpful, and i went with the flow. i commented she was town at several points at various levels of certainty. i've become more sure recently.

 

As town i think she often hedges, so i don't read much into it. when she posted an explanation of her read on me, i thought it was understandable and accurate - probably something I would think if i had to judge my actions through a third party's eyes. it took me a while to respond to it because i had to contemplate a proper response, which should probably evidence that it was on point regardless of my alignment.

 

She got brownie points for being active at eod and on board with the cfd that saved me.

 

She got points today for consideration and paying enough attention to the thread to pick up on my soft claim (which may or may not be accurate; come@me scum) and incorporate it into her reads.

 

 

 

In general a few of her thought processes I have thought, would think, or do think myself. So when someone's arguments make that much sense, I kind of have to clear them, i figure.

 

unless they're tom. though usually with tom i agree on a surface level.

 

Another bad read summary. As town she often hedges? How in the world would you know that???????? She gets brownie points for saving you @ EOD, even tho she continuously said she'd be willing to lynch you and went from you being one of her highest town reads to being one of her highest scum reads????????? And in general a whole bunch of vagueness like "I commented she was town at several points at various levels of certainty. I've become more sure recently" that really don't say ANYTHING regarding WHY you're townreading her.

 

 

Again, how would you know?

 

Cause Tom is probably town and I'm definitely town. Duh.

 

 

Did you miss how I mentioned how my "scumread" on Tommy was completely fake and fabricated, designed to make scum less scared of me, and potentially trap scum in the process?

 

Despot, I have a favor to ask. 

 

 

Please compare my responses to your gambit with Alanna's.

 

I ask this because I have had Alanna as a town lean and I would like to see the differences in how the two of us reacted.  I think that would give me a better bearing on where you are coming from.  it would give me a control so to speak.

 

 

I'll do so when I get home, gotta get out front at work. Toodles.

[Sili Quirrels]

Another bad read summary. As town she often hedges? How in the world would you know that???????? She gets brownie points for saving you @ EOD, even tho she continuously said she'd be willing to lynch you and went from you being one of her highest town reads to being one of her highest scum reads????????? And in general a whole bunch of vagueness like "I commented she was town at several points at various levels of certainty. I've become more sure recently" that really don't say ANYTHING regarding WHY you're townreading her.

 

same reason i town-read a lot of people. because it makes sense to me.

 

brownie points are pretend points.

 

there's no point in responding at any length to you if you're going to be cantankerous and pedantic.

 

if i'm asked to be beyond exceptional to avoid my lynch, then i can't be bothered. lynch me, cause i'm floating.

 

from now on, you are on ignore, staying on ignore, and i am ignoring you.

[Sili Quirrels]

 

Did you miss how I mentioned how my "scumread" on Tommy was completely fake and fabricated, designed to make scum less scared of me, and potentially trap scum in the process?

 

 

Yes. Probably because you were busy fake claiming vig.

[Sili Quirrels]

Damn. my wim shot down really quickly reading desp.

 

hey dingus, excuse me as i quietly shut the door.

 

i can't change anything. i am now convinced of it.

 

the only people i will be responding to where it comes to criticism of my play are alanna, tom, and no one.

 

end of discussion, frankly.

 

i am actually sorry i wasted an hour or two scrounging up details of my various leads throughout the last week. it was a waste of time. i feel silly now.

 

 

thank you for this experience

 

 

as to what floating means, it will probably be fluff, or statements like he or she is village/scum.

[TheRagnarok]

 

Another bad read summary. As town she often hedges? How in the world would you know that???????? She gets brownie points for saving you @ EOD, even tho she continuously said she'd be willing to lynch you and went from you being one of her highest town reads to being one of her highest scum reads????????? And in general a whole bunch of vagueness like "I commented she was town at several points at various levels of certainty. I've become more sure recently" that really don't say ANYTHING regarding WHY you're townreading her.

 

same reason i town-read a lot of people. because it makes sense to me.

 

brownie points are pretend points.

 

there's no point in responding at any length to you if you're going to be cantankerous and pedantic.

 

if i'm asked to be beyond exceptional to avoid my lynch, then i can't be bothered. lynch me, cause i'm floating.

 

from now on, you are on ignore, staying on ignore, and i am ignoring you.

 

Hey man, I just wanna say that you say things like the bolded a bit too much.  1.  If you're doing it ITT, it loses it's meaning if you do it too much so you don't get good reactions.  2.  If you mean it OOT(Out of thread), Ithat's one of those things I prefer people leave at home. 

 

It's not unlike people saying they put someone on ignore(a strategy I hate regardless of the reason as it implies legit issues with a person that go past the realm of the game).

[Sili Quirrels]

it's only itt. i say it to convince myself i don't need to respond. which i don't. i don't care about getting a reaction.

 

i put him on ignore because of legit issues with how he plays the game. you don't want me to go into detail, so he's cantankerous and pedantic, and let's leave it at that.

[TheRagnarok]

it's only itt. i say it to convince myself i don't need to respond. which i don't. i don't care about getting a reaction.

 

i put him on ignore because of legit issues with how he plays the game. you don't want me to go into detail, so he's cantankerous and pedantic, and let's leave it at that.

As long as it's only ITT.  But remember that playing a card too many times makes it predictable.

 

And I'm never a fan of putting someone on ignore.  The only time it could ever be necessary is if someone goes off the deep end in which case the mod can handle it. 

[Sili Quirrels]

you aren't a fan of putting someone on ignore?

 

well deal. i've read enough of despothera to last a life time, and if i read anymore i'll go off the deep end.

[hazelkrs1]

Despothera confirmed jerkface meanyhead

 

[Yates]

So...how does this [doc blocks ALL kills] make a difference?[/quote

It means Arsis is about 20X more likely to be lying.

 

 

Mods are allowed a lot of leeway to change up roles how they want.

LOL - but that's not how this game is supposed to work. You NEED constants. Standard roles need to have standard mechanics in standard games so people can make reasonable decisions about claims and results. Again, this is after the game or new thread stuff. In fact, I'm starting a new thread after I'm caught up.

 

[Yates]

Quote fail...

 

So...how does this [doc blocks ALL kills] make a difference?

It means Arsis is about 20X more likely to be lying.

 

Mods are allowed a lot of leeway to change up roles how they want.

LOL - but that's not how this game is supposed to work. You NEED constants. Standard roles need to have standard mechanics in standard games so people can make reasonable decisions about claims and results. Again, this is after the game or new thread stuff. In fact, I'm starting a new thread after I'm caught up.

[Yates]

looks like we lynch inside the despot/tommy/arsis claims then

 

one of them is lying so yay that

This is where I'm at as of this post.