[Advanced] Revenge of the Marlfox

[Tommyrod]

Leelou was town telling for about the first fifth of the game, then fell off. She did that as scum with me too.

 

Yates was never really town telling for me, just being a big stinking liar.

 

Lunch 'em up.

[Tommyrod]

 

I wanna lynch Yates. Think this dude is posturing up a storm. He's playing very differently from his usual thoughtful introspective villager game. He's playing more like scum me.

Oh really? Look who's trying to find a spine now that he thinks his fake claim bought him Townie brownies and is no longer the leading lynch. Amazing how the Yates tunnel comes right back around.

 

Step away from the keyboard.

 

Take a cold shower.

 

Learn how to read me. Because you are TERRIBLE at it.

 

This is a wolfy post. And I'm not saying that to be snarky -- it really is.

[Tommyrod]

"Fake claim"

 

"Tom's been a wolf suspect all game"

 

"You're terrible at reading me! Go away!"

[Yates]

Let me pull something up for you so you can shut your face already. Because just looking at it makes me want to punch it.

[Tommyrod]

Let me pull something up for you so you can shut your face already. Because just looking at it makes me want to punch it.

[Tommyrod]

For the record if Yates is a wolf I don't think Cory is as clear as I thought he was earlier. I sensed some invisible thread of wolfy gossamer that connects them. No offense if you're a villager Cory, just gotta note this stuff.

[Sili Quirrels]

Role claim didn't buy Tom many brownies. More like a cup of tea for the wait before his inevitable demise.

 

 

I had a thought. I wasn't clear why I cleared Tommy. It was because I believe Tom Ripley would have acted differently in response to my post, not the erruption itself

 

 

I'll wait and watch over a Yates wagon, but I will not join it after last time.

[Tommyrod]

"I'll wait and watch over a Yates wagon, but I will not join it after last time."

 

What is this in reference to?

[Sili Quirrels]

The time you and cory incidentally made him rage quit.

 

I do not forget.

[Tommyrod]

The time you and cory incidentally made him rage quit.

 

I do not forget.

Uh... pretty different.

[Yates]

I mean... you're scum so much but...

 

Here's you in Woodstock reading me the last time I was a hydra:

 

*le sigh*

Avengers Yates was fun and on point. This Yates is some totally alien beast I've never seen before.

 

So Occam's razor says you're scum, even barring the Lenlo / Darthe defenses.

 

This was after several pages of tunneling.

 

And I could continue to show you all the goading after lots and lots of Town posts that looked like this:

If Yates is not scum he's doing a great impression of it. I've had that slimy soba sense since last night. I believe AJ and I are seeing the game the same way and that in itself is a sign our instincts are likely correct.

But ultimately I do't really care what you think. You just can't read me. You should defer to better players. Like our claimed survivor, AJ.

[Tommyrod]

So what, you immediately believe the survivor claim but don't believe my role exists? What the hell?

[Sili Quirrels]

Aj has an agenda. no way did he claim survivor like that and make frivolous, fallacious arguments for me and thane while leaving the entire village alone.

 

Though I will interject here and say Yates has been pinging me as more town than not. It's always possible I'm wrong before an ISO, but for what my opinion is worth...

[Yates]

So what, you immediately believe the survivor claim but don't believe my role exists? What the hell?

Yeah. Basically. Look at your sig, bro. Plus, you forget that I know how Tommy Town treats survivor claims. So let's not pretend like my talking it out with my other hydra head is some crazy and startling revelation.

[Sili Quirrels]

And also, for what my opinion is worth, tom is scum telling. Though he's probably just having fun pushing yates.

 

He should know the difference between claiming a net-neutral role and a net-negative role for town upon death.

[Sili Quirrels]

Me and yates agree it seems.

[Leelou]

Leelou was town telling for about the first fifth of the game, then fell off. She did that as scum with me too.

 

Yates was never really town telling for me, just being a big stinking liar.

 

Lunch 'em up.

Nope, I'm more actively involved this game and we have been pretty straightforward all game. It is not my fault if you can't read us. This last min wagon attempt is not a good look for you after the rest of your attempts haven't taken that far off.

[Yates]

What it looks like to me is Tom thinks he wont be lynched today because of his terrible Beloved Princess claim - which I decided to let him think I'd consider believing despite the fact the mechanic he's claiming for the role is atypical. And now he's poking around to see if he can get people riled up and see how many claims he can get out of Town before his lie is exposed. So he's probably just a goon. But a scum lynch is a scum lynch.

 

Can I do this, Leelou?

##Vote: Tommy

 

Please?  I know you want me to "play it safe" but seriously now.

[Sili Quirrels]

The mechanically correct and optimal play, is to play it safe...

 

Anyway I'm going to have another nap.

 

Don't do anything reckless without me. I am 70% sure tom is town.

[Yates]

The mechanically correct and optimal play, is to play it safe...

Yup.  That's what we talked about.  But nothing about Tom screams or even whispers Town to me.  Des bringing up Kingdom Hearts was pretty clutch because that was the last time I had to deal with a Princess claim.

[Tommyrod]

How are you gonna plead with me to read me correctly, going so far as to pull quotes from an old game, THEN CALL ME SCUM ANYWAY?

 

Pick one. Either I'm town or I'm scum. This song and dance ends now.

[Yates]

And by "deal with" I mean explore the claim from the other side of the fence.  DPR and I were scum bros.  Made it impossible for me to defend his slot without Des getting suspicious of me.

[Tommyrod]

 

 

The mechanically correct and optimal play, is to play it safe...

Yup. That's what we talked about. But nothing about Tom screams or even whispers Town to me. Des bringing up Kingdom Hearts was pretty clutch because that was the last time I had to deal with a Princess claim.

Considering my scum game on VS _just_ ended and my natural behavior is quite different here, I don't see how you can not notice differences in my play. I find THAT very unlikely.

[Yates]

How are you gonna plead with me to read me correctly, going so far as to pull quotes from an old game, THEN CALL ME SCUM ANYWAY?

 

Pick one. Either I'm town or I'm scum. This song and dance ends now.

LOL

 

This isn't an absolute statement.  This is an either/or statement.

 

Either you are scum and you don't have to read me so you are just pushing nonsense OR you are terrible town Tom and don't know how to read me.  In either instance?  Your "opinion" on how you think Town Yates acts and what Town Yates says carries no value.

[Yates]

Considering my scum game on VS _just_ ended and my natural behavior is quite different here, I don't see how you can not notice differences in my play. I find THAT very unlikely.

Considering your scum game on VS _just_ ended, you'd have to be pretty terrible to play this game exactly the same as scum, wouldn't you?