[BASIC] Discworld Mafia - MAFIA win

[Niniel]

Also think it was a weird kill.

 

I'm still thinkimg Yates or Verb.

 

The reason for Yates was that he got stuck in non game discussions and had little to say about the game. I don't think he was on d1 Lynch. (might remember that wrong)

 

Verbal: yes, he asked Leelou a question and wasn't satisfied with her answer. But he didn't call it scummy. In fact he voted them because his read on Nyn. He was the last one to vote them, just before deadline. Apparently he had forgotten about the hybrid lynch. His late vote was not therefore a the hammer. Or he remembered it but then it hardly made any difference since they would get lynched anyway.

 

What I'm trying to say is that I don't believe mafia would bus on d1. That clears everyone on that lynch except Verbal since his late vote didn't matter.

 

Mafia need to focus on "clear" players. I felt that after that lynch it only left Yates, Verbal, Nolder and Hallia. So I'm suspicious of everyone looking outside that group.

 

I hope to get the time to re-read tomorrow and see what Nolder's death can tell. I'm not sure that I will make it but I will try. I'm getting interviewed for radio tomorrow and need to clean up before the reporter arrives.

[Barmacral]

So Verb, other than Krak, who do you think has the potential of being a scum candidate?

[Yates]

Also think it was a weird kill.

 

I'm still thinkimg Yates or Verb.

0/2 IMO.

 

I don't know if you've noticed or not but I think you are probably the last scum. I made some posts illustrating my leanings in that regard. Thoughts on any of those posts?

[Niniel]

I'm out in the countryside with bad internet and using my phone so I can't go back and look.

[Yates]

What I'm trying to say is that I don't believe mafia would bus on d1. That clears everyone on that lynch except Verbal since his late vote didn't matter.

 

Mafia need to focus on "clear" players. I felt that after that lynch it only left Yates, Verbal, Nolder and Hallia. So I'm suspicious of everyone looking outside that group.

So tell me something, Tina. Hally was lynched and flipped Town. That left me, Verb, and Nolder. I mean, that was my OWN suspect pool [plus Wolfish] as of yesterday - ALL the people that weren't instrumental in the LouNy lynch. Why on EARTH would scum Yates or scum Verb NK Town Nolder who was in the suspect pool? It makes literally no sense.

[Niniel]

I think you mention me bussing d1 since I hadn't talked about Nyn/Leelou. I really need to search for.it tomorrow. Soon going to bed.

[Niniel]

About Nolder - no idea why anyone would want to kill him yet.

[Yates]

I'm out in the countryside with bad internet and using my phone so I can't go back and look.

Basically it's the middle of page 56.

 

I just don't buy Krak as scum. I have had Verb green for a while. I think Nolder is Town, too, which is why he never really entered into the conversation yesterday. Can someone remind me why Tina is Town? I hated her thread presence towards the end of the day.

The first part of her game was challenging Verb on his "not the answer I was looking for" post when he started off the game challenging Leelou. I totally forgot about this. And he was right. How is Verb not a blue read just for THIS alone?

 

Last night, Cory called her Town for this post. I didn't understand until just now whie ISOing her - that's the post she unvotes him in.

 

There's really only two pages in the ISO so there isn't a ton of substance there.

 

I was just ISOing her too yates.  That post cory liked was the most substantial post shes had all game. Its mostly been stuff that doesnt really say anything.

 

I also dont recall her commenting on Leelou/Nyn much either.

Yeah.  But she was second on the wagon.  So there's that.

 

Actually, I just rechecked her ISO to see how she got on the wagon.  She was agreeing with Leelou a lot and asking her for help reading Verb.  Also responding to Leelou about something regarding her read on Cory.  Then just BAM vtes LouNy because she doesn't think they are being game solvey?  I think this part has to be reread out of ISO for context.

 

[Yates]

Can you tell me how and why you got on the LouNy train in the first place?

[Verbal32]

Not even going to bother looking at Tina?

 

How many players are you going to suggest going after?  You have had Nolder, Hallia, and myself....now Tina.  See the pattern?  You're willing to have ANYBODY be the next lynch, as long as it isn't you.  THAT is the major difference between you, Hallia, Nolder, and currently Yates.  They all were or are willing to be the lynch to solve the game.  You.....are not.

 

 

 

 

 

Actually, I take that back.  If I'm right and Krak is scum, killing Nolder is PERFECT to provide cover for why it wouldn't be him.

 

His easy defense is that he'd kill a blue....so going for some reverse psychology here.  Won't work.

 

[v]Krak[/v]

Lol no

 

I could have gone for anyone else. Killing Dice, for example, would be a way better play for scum!Krak.

 

If you're scum then this would be the perfect gambit to pull and then pull this wifom on me .

 

I like how you ask the question and then answer it.

 

See how this works?

 

 

Yes, which is why I said it was reverse psychology to kill Nolder....the next guy on your list to lynch.  It makes you look better.

 

ScumKrak's best kill thinking only logic and no evolving strategy:  Dice

 

ScumKrak's best kill including the evolving strategy of Verbal going hard at him and Yates defending him:  Nolder

 

 

^ the best move for you was to kill Nolder.  I would have relaxed on you if it was Dice, actually.

[Verbal32]

So Verb, other than Krak, who do you think has the potential of being a scum candidate?

 

My current blues are Dice, Mish/Kronos, Yates, and yourself.

 

I'm down to lynch anybody else, with a preference for Krak because I think I'm right.

 

 

If I had to tinfoil and then name blues, it would be only Dice and Yates.  If I'm wrong on them, I'm happy to lose the game.

[Niniel]

Because I didn't get the feel that they were trying to solve things. Othets made good posts about them (one of them was Barm I think).

 

Yes, I questioned Verbal about it sinve he didn't seemed to think bad answer = scummy answer. why then ask the question at all? seemed like a "fake" question to me. He never voted them because of Leelou either.

[Niniel]

Hate posting on phones. I'll try to explain myself more tomorrow.

[Yates]

Hate posting on phones. I'll try to explain myself more tomorrow.

Okay. I kind of wanted to do it in real time. Hopefully I'll be on I guess?

[Verbal32]

Because I didn't get the feel that they were trying to solve things. Othets made good posts about them (one of them was Barm I think).

 

Yes, I questioned Verbal about it sinve he didn't seemed to think bad answer = scummy answer. why then ask the question at all? seemed like a "fake" question to me. He never voted them because of Leelou either.

 

Really?  What makes you say that?

[Verbal32]

@Tina-

 

Don't make me nervous, please.  I think I know what you're trying to get at, but I want to hear the case from you without me helping prompt you.  I'll wait.

[dicetosser1]

mish put the tinfoil with my name on it back in the drawer hun. im town.

 

i find it coincidental that i post saying tina hasn't had anything real substantial and then suddenly we get a substantial post from her.

 

i get what verbal is saying but im also keeping in mind that argument that krak is spewed because of how hard he was gone after. Dont know what to think there atm tbh.

 

im gonna vote tina

[Verbal32]

mish put the tinfoil with my name on it back in the drawer hun. im town.

 

i find it coincidental that i post saying tina hasn't had anything real substantial and then suddenly we get a substantial post from her.

 

i get what verbal is saying but im also keeping in mind that argument that krak is spewed because of how hard he was gone after. Dont know what to think there atm tbh.

 

im gonna vote tina

 

You're not being open to the possibility that scum are aware of how we would look at the game, and are actively trying to throw that off and be unpredictable.

 

As I said before (maybe this game?), Yates and I did this as scum in a game a while back.  We hardcore defended each other and our scum mates.  We got to the cusp of victory like this, and I fake claimed Cop to seal the deal and get the final mislynch.  That, IMO, is what scum is doing in this game.  Instead of heavy defending, they are essentially going in the opposite direction - heavy bussing and burying a vote on the other.  So when town thinks "hmm, who had a useless vote at EOD for us to go after?"......they are clear.

[Verbal32]

 

What I'm trying to say is that I don't believe mafia would bus on d1. That clears everyone on that lynch except Verbal since his late vote didn't matter.

 

Mafia need to focus on "clear" players. I felt that after that lynch it only left Yates, Verbal, Nolder and Hallia. So I'm suspicious of everyone looking outside that group.

So tell me something, Tina. Hally was lynched and flipped Town. That left me, Verb, and Nolder. I mean, that was my OWN suspect pool [plus Wolfish] as of yesterday - ALL the people that weren't instrumental in the LouNy lynch. Why on EARTH would scum Yates or scum Verb NK Town Nolder who was in the suspect pool? It makes literally no sense.

 

 

@Dice - see what Yates is doing here?  He's going down the normal path for town to take.....but I think it is the wrong path, because I think scum are switching it up.  I am blue on Yates, but I think he is wrong here.

[dicetosser1]

im not disallowing for it all together verb.

 

For me a Tina who isnt asking questions, often pointed questions, a tina who does not have much substance to her posts is usually scumtina.

 

I was tinfoiling about krak. Above im simply acknowledging mish's point   i think it was mish  about krak being spewed.

 

Right now my lynch list looks like tina or krak or you.  you two are giving me trouble. Your points make sense. I can see what you are saying. However I can also see you making these points as scum.

 

TBH since the scum lynch and Nolder bouncing back with town posts i lost my read on this game. I was so certain on nol. hence i am scrambling atm a bit

[BFG]

Vimes awoke from a sleep with a start and looked at the clock, quarter to six, he had 15 minutes to make it home in time. He had a promise to keep

 

Current VC:

 

Krak (1): Verb

 

Tina (1): Dice

 

Not Voting (5): Tina, Barm, Wolfish, Yates, Krak

 

With 7 alive it takes 4 to lynch

 

Please note a deadline has been set

 

[BFG]

GOOD MORNING

[dicetosser1]

good evening BFG!!!

[Barmacral]

With the Nolder flip I'm thinking that Verb's scenario is a lot more likely to be correct, I definitely don't get a scum feeling from Yates. Verb is so singlemindedly targetting Krak (though at least he is aware of other possibilities) that I'm inclined to think he's likely innocent too. Krak or Tina would be the next best bet, both of whom were on the Leelou/Nyn train.

 

I'll need to spend some more time on the game before deciding which is more likely scum though.

[Barmacral]

 

Because I didn't get the feel that they were trying to solve things. Othets made good posts about them (one of them was Barm I think).

 

Yes, I questioned Verbal about it sinve he didn't seemed to think bad answer = scummy answer. why then ask the question at all? seemed like a "fake" question to me. He never voted them because of Leelou either.

 

Really?  What makes you say that?

 

 

Actually you said it straight up, you couldn't read Leelou yet but you thought Nyn was scummy, which is why you voted for them. I could go back and find the post for you if you want.