[BASIC] Discworld Mafia - MAFIA win

[Nolder]

 

 

And nope. I only included the Wed thing for lulz. I'm voting you for the whole verb thing. But your OMGSUS is rewarding <3

I'm not OMGUSing you.

You haven't been participating.

You were called out for that and came in talking about work, which is fine.

When I called you out I asked for a detailed and thoughtful post to make up for the lost time.

Instead of taking the time to do that you instead chose to do the exact opposite of what I asked which was to go "blah blah I agree with blah so vote X".

It's thoughtless and lazy. I'm not voting you for voting me, I don't care that you voted me and in fact thought it was just a dumb placeholder.

The fact that that was a serious vote makes your post look even lazier than I already thought it was.

I'm voting you for non participation and lazy play.

Advocating a policy lynch or lynch inactives?

 

If that's all it looks like to you so be it. I feel like I've been more than clear on why I voted.

[Krakalakachkn]

 

 

I want to hear his thoughts behind why that vote was bad or good.

 

 

 

What do you think about that vote?

I think it was a vote phrased as a serious vote, but that had absolutley no grounds behind it. Especially piggybacking it onto your "reason" for voting Verb, wich as in my eyes read as joke vote.

That.

 

 

Do you think it's more likely that:

 

1) Nolder made a serious vote for reasons that you don't understand

2) Nolder made a serious vote for no reason

3) Nolder made a joke vote for no reason

4) Nolder made a joke vote for reasons that you don't understand

5) Secret answer 5

 

Follow-up:

 

Do you think that Scum!Nolder is more likely to do this than Town!Nolder?

[WolfbrotherKronos]

 

 

Sup. But now bed. Bye.

Tease.

 

 

Worth*

 

 

Fail of the game: Accomplished.

hahahaha

How is that scummy Krak.

[WolfbrotherKronos]

 

 

 

 

I want to hear his thoughts behind why that vote was bad or good.

 

 

 

What do you think about that vote?

I think it was a vote phrased as a serious vote, but that had absolutley no grounds behind it. Especially piggybacking it onto your "reason" for voting Verb, wich as in my eyes read as joke vote.

That.

 

Do you think it's more likely that:

 

1) Nolder made a serious vote for reasons that you don't understand

2) Nolder made a serious vote for no reason

3) Nolder made a joke vote for no reason

4) Nolder made a joke vote for reasons that you don't understand

5) Secret answer 5

 

Follow-up:

 

Do you think that Scum!Nolder is more likely to do this than Town!Nolder?

2

 

And I have no idea of meta so don't feel like I can answer your follow up.

[Nolder]

 

Bolded: Do you really think a two person mafia team would start bussing on page 3 or whatever it was?

 

Not really. The point I was trying to make is that I'm not very sure what I'm seeing, it could all have been nothing.

I was allowing for multiple possibilities including just me jumping at shadows.

[Krakalakachkn]

 

 

Sup. But now bed. Bye.

Tease.

 

 

Worth*

 

 

Fail of the game: Accomplished.

hahahaha

How is that scummy Krak.

 

 

I think this kind of intro post is >rand to come from scum because they're self-conscious and responding to others offers an easy way to break the ice.  It's something I really try not to do in my own game.

[Nolder]

 

 

 

 

I want to hear his thoughts behind why that vote was bad or good.

 

 

 

What do you think about that vote?

I think it was a vote phrased as a serious vote, but that had absolutley no grounds behind it. Especially piggybacking it onto your "reason" for voting Verb, wich as in my eyes read as joke vote.

That.

 

Do you think it's more likely that:

 

1) Nolder made a serious vote for reasons that you don't understand

2) Nolder made a serious vote for no reason

3) Nolder made a joke vote for no reason

4) Nolder made a joke vote for reasons that you don't understand

5) Secret answer 5

 

Follow-up:

 

Do you think that Scum!Nolder is more likely to do this than Town!Nolder?

2

 

And I have no idea of meta so don't feel like I can answer your follow up.

 

My head just broke.

 

Serious...without reason...what?

That's like...opposite.

[Krakalakachkn]

 

 

 

 

I want to hear his thoughts behind why that vote was bad or good.

 

 

 

What do you think about that vote?

I think it was a vote phrased as a serious vote, but that had absolutley no grounds behind it. Especially piggybacking it onto your "reason" for voting Verb, wich as in my eyes read as joke vote.

That.

 

Do you think it's more likely that:

 

1) Nolder made a serious vote for reasons that you don't understand

2) Nolder made a serious vote for no reason

3) Nolder made a joke vote for no reason

4) Nolder made a joke vote for reasons that you don't understand

5) Secret answer 5

 

Follow-up:

 

Do you think that Scum!Nolder is more likely to do this than Town!Nolder?

2

 

And I have no idea of meta so don't feel like I can answer your follow up.

 

Alright, well let's take meta out of it.  Ignore the Nolder and just think Scum! Town!

 

 

Do you think it's more likely that town would make such a move, or scum.  Don't think about meta, think about the play.

[BFG]

 

And, Good Evening :)

[Krakalakachkn]

 

[Verbal32]

 

 

 

Sup. But now bed. Bye.

Tease.

 

 

Worth*

 

 

Fail of the game: Accomplished.

hahahaha

How is that scummy Krak.

 

 

I think this kind of intro post is >rand to come from scum because they're self-conscious and responding to others offers an easy way to break the ice.  It's something I really try not to do in my own game.

 

 

Look at the 2 people I'm talking to in that post.  2 of my oldest friends on this site - I have literally been friends with both for 7+ years.  I have not played in a mafia game with Barm in a few years, and if you haven't seen Nyn take potshots at me yet, you're blind.  I'm not going to ignore her potshotting herself, dude.

 

You are a distraction.  You are taking my 1st post of the game, with 0 game content, and trying to somehow transform that into a scumtell.  Here's a question:  do you think ScumVerbal would be more likely to ignore that from you and hope it goes away, or attack it head-on and draw further attention to it?  Keep in mind that practically half the game has acknowledged your "find" was pretty poor......yet you seem unable to find the awareness to admit this to yourself.

[Leelou]

 

Our reads so far (in no particular order).

How can you possibly have me as null? I don't even...

 

 

You are very high on the null list, just about to break over to the townie side. 

[Leelou]

 

Our reads so far (in no particular order).

 

Town Leans:

Tina

Verbal

Wolfish

Cory

 

Null:

Dice

Yates

Barm

 

Scum leans:

Hallia

Krak

Nolder

 

 

This reads list isn't sitting well with me.  I don't think there's any evidence to back up her town reads and it looks cobbled together.

 

 

@Leelou - do you agree with Nyn's reads?  Which would you change?

 

 

Well, gee, I wonder why it's not sitting well with you. So far you really have only pushed on Verbal and seemed to think Nolder is the only person that sees what you are saying. Sorry, but Nolder's post and vote might as well have been in another language. What you pointed out as scummy behavior from Verb, isn't. So far, he's shown more of a town attitude towards this game. I will be very shocked if he's scum. 

[Nolder]

Alright, well let's take meta out of it.  Ignore the Nolder and just think Scum! Town!

 

 

Do you think it's more likely that town would make such a move, or scum.  Don't think about meta, think about the play.

 

Venturing into "scum/town would never do 'this'" territory.

I like your line of questioning so far but don't let it devolve into fallacy.

[Nolder]

Well, gee, I wonder why it's not sitting well with you. So far you really have only pushed on Verbal and seemed to think Nolder is the only person that sees what you are saying. Sorry, but Nolder's post and vote might as well have been in another language. What you pointed out as scummy behavior from Verb, isn't. So far, he's shown more of a town attitude towards this game. I will be very shocked if he's scum. 

I can understand if you didn't get what I was saying before.

Like I said I don't think I've been communicating myself clearly.

But do you still not understand? Even after I took the time to try to explain?

Have you read all my posts?

[Leelou]

 

Well, gee, I wonder why it's not sitting well with you. So far you really have only pushed on Verbal and seemed to think Nolder is the only person that sees what you are saying. Sorry, but Nolder's post and vote might as well have been in another language. What you pointed out as scummy behavior from Verb, isn't. So far, he's shown more of a town attitude towards this game. I will be very shocked if he's scum. 

I can understand if you didn't get what I was saying before.

Like I said I don't think I've been communicating myself clearly.

But do you still not understand? Even after I took the time to try to explain?

Have you read all my posts?

 

 

I understand more, and I still think it's weak. I will admit I'm not fully reading all the details right now. I plan on that tomorrow. I think I said earlier I have limited time today, if I didn't: I HAVE LIMITED TIME TODAY. 

[WolfbrotherKronos]

@Krak - voting for no reason seems scummy to me

 

@Nolder - if you have a reason, then it's not clear.

[Krakalakachkn]

 

 

 

 

Sup. But now bed. Bye.

Tease.

 

 

Worth*

 

 

Fail of the game: Accomplished.

hahahaha

How is that scummy Krak.

 

 

I think this kind of intro post is >rand to come from scum because they're self-conscious and responding to others offers an easy way to break the ice.  It's something I really try not to do in my own game.

 

 

Look at the 2 people I'm talking to in that post.  2 of my oldest friends on this site - I have literally been friends with both for 7+ years.  I have not played in a mafia game with Barm in a few years, and if you haven't seen Nyn take potshots at me yet, you're blind.  I'm not going to ignore her potshotting herself, dude.

 

3)You are a distraction.  4)You are taking my 1st post of the game, with 0 game content, and trying to somehow transform that into a scum tell.  5)Here's a question:  do you think ScumVerbal would be more likely to ignore that from you and hope it goes away, or attack it head-on and draw further attention to it?  6)Keep in mind that practically half the game has acknowledged your "find" was pretty poor......yet you seem unable to find the awareness to admit this to yourself.

 

 

 

1) It's really hard to respond to this kind of post.

2) The first paragraph doesn't do anything for me because you have the entire game to banter.  Your first post can say a lot and there's a chance yours did. 

3) That's a generally acknowledged (by me) scum tell.  

4) I'm hardly the first person to do so, so don't act like it's not possible.

5) Attack it tbh

6) First off, that doesn't concern me.  Second, that's a false narrative as you don't know what's going on in my mind.

 

 

Notice how I've barely touched on my response to you and have instead focused my energy on what's surrounding it.  So when I say that the second paragraph of your post is almost entirely overdrawn, know that I think I'm 100% defensible here.  Maybe I've been drawn down the rabbit hole, but I found your first post scummy.  I have given my reasons but I didn't do it right away and allowed Mish and a few others to put words into my mouth because I didn't want to engage directly with what I said.  I was hoping to avoid a confrontation for a little bit longer, but whatever.  I thought there was a solid chance that, like you said, that my "find" was pretty poor, but it didn't really matter because I was more interested in what happened next.  Also someone can make a "scum tell" and still be town, so I wasn't going to vote you straight off because of that.  Leelou and Nyn immediately came in after Nolder's agreement/vote and starting trying to rile everyone up and get after Nolder, clearly defending you with zero defensible ground and it made me wonder why.  I figured there could be a good chance that Leelou decided to white knight you knowing you're town and using her well-known VerbLove to mask her intentions.  In fact, before your above post I was reading you as town.  I really don't like that post though, it just reads as 100% ass backwards.  

[Krakalakachkn]

LouNy

[Krakalakachkn]

 

Alright, well let's take meta out of it.  Ignore the Nolder and just think Scum! Town!

 

 

Do you think it's more likely that town would make such a move, or scum.  Don't think about meta, think about the play.

 

Venturing into "scum/town would never do 'this'" territory.

I like your line of questioning so far but don't let it devolve into fallacy.

 

 

I know, but I'm more interested in getting Kronos think about his thinking and verbalize it in the thread.

[WolfbrotherKronos]

 

 

Alright, well let's take meta out of it.  Ignore the Nolder and just think Scum! Town!

 

 

Do you think it's more likely that town would make such a move, or scum.  Don't think about meta, think about the play.

 

Venturing into "scum/town would never do 'this'" territory.

I like your line of questioning so far but don't let it devolve into fallacy.

 

 

I know, but I'm more interested in getting Kronos think about his thinking and verbalize it in the thread.

 

 

See above.

[WolfbrotherKronos]

Or on the previous page rather.

[Krakalakachkn]

 

 

Our reads so far (in no particular order).

 

Town Leans:

Tina

Verbal

Wolfish

Cory

 

Null:

Dice

Yates

Barm

 

Scum leans:

Hallia

Krak

Nolder

 

 

This reads list isn't sitting well with me.  I don't think there's any evidence to back up her town reads and it looks cobbled together.

 

 

@Leelou - do you agree with Nyn's reads?  Which would you change?

 

Well, gee, I wonder why it's not sitting well with you. So far you really have only pushed on Verbal and seemed to think Nolder is the only person that sees what you are saying. Sorry, but Nolder's post and vote might as well have been in another language. What you pointed out as scummy behavior from Verb, isn't. So far, he's shown more of a town attitude towards this game. I will be very shocked if he's scum. 

 

I don't think you're town this game.  

 

Instead of engaging you're simply content to snipe from the sidelines.

 

First off, Nolder is the only person that sees what I was saying and I understood what he was saying.  That doesn't make us right or wrong, but it does make sense.  

 

Second, what Verb said wasn't scummy to you but that doesn't make it gospel.

 

Third, and mostly why I don't believe you, is because you had your mind made up before anything of note had happened.

[Hallia]

She's gone! She's gone! I'm gonna fall over now. >.< state people aren't nice. But apparently it's coprorates fault we failed. O.o

 

@nol - you called my post lazy, but I clearly stated I'd only gone up to page 7. If you didn't notice, there wasn't a ton of content up to that part. I'll try to continue on lunch!

[Verbal32]

 

 

 

 

 

Sup. But now bed. Bye.

Tease.

 

 

Worth*

 

 

Fail of the game: Accomplished.

hahahaha

How is that scummy Krak.

 

 

I think this kind of intro post is >rand to come from scum because they're self-conscious and responding to others offers an easy way to break the ice.  It's something I really try not to do in my own game.

 

 

Look at the 2 people I'm talking to in that post.  2 of my oldest friends on this site - I have literally been friends with both for 7+ years.  I have not played in a mafia game with Barm in a few years, and if you haven't seen Nyn take potshots at me yet, you're blind.  I'm not going to ignore her potshotting herself, dude.

 

3)You are a distraction.  4)You are taking my 1st post of the game, with 0 game content, and trying to somehow transform that into a scum tell.  5)Here's a question:  do you think ScumVerbal would be more likely to ignore that from you and hope it goes away, or attack it head-on and draw further attention to it?  6)Keep in mind that practically half the game has acknowledged your "find" was pretty poor......yet you seem unable to find the awareness to admit this to yourself.

 

 

 

1) It's really hard to respond to this kind of post.

2) The first paragraph doesn't do anything for me because you have the entire game to banter.  Your first post can say a lot and there's a chance yours did. 

3) That's a generally acknowledged (by me) scum tell.  

4) I'm hardly the first person to do so, so don't act like it's not possible.

5) Attack it tbh

6) First off, that doesn't concern me.  Second, that's a false narrative as you don't know what's going on in my mind.

 

 

Notice how I've barely touched on my response to you and have instead focused my energy on what's surrounding it.  So when I say that the second paragraph of your post is almost entirely overdrawn, know that I think I'm 100% defensible here.  Maybe I've been drawn down the rabbit hole, but I found your first post scummy.  I have given my reasons but I didn't do it right away and allowed Mish and a few others to put words into my mouth because I didn't want to engage directly with what I said.  I was hoping to avoid a confrontation for a little bit longer, but whatever.  I thought there was a solid chance that, like you said, that my "find" was pretty poor, but it didn't really matter because I was more interested in what happened next.  Also someone can make a "scum tell" and still be town, so I wasn't going to vote you straight off because of that.  Leelou and Nyn immediately came in after Nolder's agreement/vote and starting trying to rile everyone up and get after Nolder, clearly defending you with zero defensible ground and it made me wonder why.  I figured there could be a good chance that Leelou decided to white knight you knowing you're town and using her well-known VerbLove to mask her intentions.  In fact, before your above post I was reading you as town.  I really don't like that post though, it just reads as 100% ass backwards.  

 

 

While I think your interpretation of my entry post was as far off the mark as possible, I admit to really liking this post.  Still not moving you, but I REALLY like this post.