Freemasons vs. Illuminati - Day One

[Hallia]

I'm not so sure.  The times I've said that, which is three times or so? I've been right.  So....

[Andrej]

 

 

@AJ - Any thoughts on the rest of Key's posts? They looked like a legit catch-up to me. I see your point on the Len comment and I didn't like the Des vote as a joke after what appeared to be a legit catchup. Other than that nothing pinged.

What about it looked legit?

 

I didn't see much of note beyond what I already pointed out.

 

You have her OP which basically excuses her for being absent.

 

Her +1 the QT thing that apparently Despot was joking about

 

Saying she doesn't sense Len as scum 'this time' (lol)

 

Saying Clov needs to explain more before we roll onto Addi

 

Then lastly her Despot vote

 

~5 posts.

To throw one of your own questions back at you, where is the scum motivation for catching up how I did?

 

Regarding my number of posts, that’s what I made my “excuse” OP. I knew I was going to have another ridiculously busy day today and wouldn’t have time to post until after the baby went to bed.

 

I'm not sure why you ask me this question.

 

For one, I never said there was scum motivation for the process in which you caught up.

 

TG asked me what I thought about your other posts because he found that you were doing a 'legit' catch up. I reviewed your ISO and then wanted him to explain what he meant by it being legit, which I took as him saying your catch up looked good context wise.

 

I wasn't discrediting you here, I was pointing out your content thus far and questioning TG as to what he found 'legit' about it.

 

He explained later that it wasn't necessarily the content but the manner in which you did - which I don't think really points in either direction alignment wise. I understood his explanation so in my mind I said 'okay' and carried on as usual.

[Andrej]

Still kinda want to rope Len just to get him gone if he's not gonna help.

 

Zero progression if town and there's always the chance he's scum - I'm not gonna give him the benefit of the doubt like I normally do because last round is a perfect example of that.

 

I'd be willing to swap to Key as well. She's sketching me out atm.

[Andrej]

WTL Hallia too.

 

get@me

[Hallia]

If you wish, it's a waste, but if it'd make you feel better.

 

Although Key did kinda vanish.  Maybe Des is right.  Am I too quick to clear people?

[Andrej]

Hallia - you ignored my question earlier.

 

Who do you want to vote? DL is in like 11 hours.

[hazelkrs1]

GRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR

 

So mad. So mad right now. This has been a bad day for mafia.

 

[Hallia]

I'll go with my gut

 

[v] GF [/v]

[Hallia]

I'll go with my gut

 

[v] GF [/v]

[Andrej]

I'm heading to bed.

 

I'll be back in the morning to read up before I leave for work. DL is right around the time I get off too, so hopefully I'll be able to be back before it drops to change my vote if needed.

[Lenlo]

God dangit DM you DID IT AGAIN IM DONE WITH YOU. Also almost posted my essay on the Odyssey. That woulda been a read.

 

1 Dice - Scum lean. Hes been fake scumhunting imo. It doesnt remind me of how he was last game and is leaving me with a bad feeling.

 

3 AJ - Town Lean? Ive liked more of your posts than ive disliked but some of them leave me scratching my head. For instance your whole thing about not wanting to disrupt Clovs thing because he might be trying for a gambit or something rubbed me the wrong way. Seeing as how ive already got 3 scum leans im willing to put you in the town pile for now and revise this later if need be.

 

4 Key - Scum Lean. Her "sense" on me at the beginning feels weird. As you pointed out last game she was bussing me pretty hard and distancing so her sense that I was scum last game was infact a lie. We were on the same team. Yet this game she doesnt "sense" im scum? I dont like how this was worded/phrased. I also dont really understand her Despo vote.

 

5 Clov - Town. Ive liked all that hes posted, his reasoning for afew people agrees with mine.

 

6 Des - Null. Whatever I do right now my read on him is gonna be colored because im peeved at him. Hes been abit of donkey to me lately and its hard to let that go, so I wanna come back to him when im not pissed at him.

 

7 TG - Scum lean. I feel that he started off this game going for me with similarly stupid posts as what he had before in the last game so he could say "Hey look, im doing the same thing I was doing before, I havnt changed!" while simultaneously going after a really easy lynch, me.

 

8 Hally - Town lean. She seems to be actually playing this game, instead of trying to slide under the radar with jokey cutesy crap and coasting on baseless LOCK CLEAR town reads some people give her for who knows what reasons. Which is good.

 

9 GF - Scum lean. I hate her playstyle. Sitback and observe? When are we gonna get these thoughts and read? When its endgame and we only need one mislynch to lose? Yeah no im sure that would be perfect for you.

 

10 Addi - Town lean. People brought up the coaching angle earlier, but theres 2 mason teams out there so thats null. Also did some actions that I dont think the scum team would suggest/let them do, such as going after Clov right out of the gate.

 

11 Yates - Null.

 

12 BFG - Post more.

 

Might have missed something since this is the third one. Dont care. Sleeping.

[v]GF[/v]

WTL GF, TG, Dice

[Graendals favourite]

Hmm, let's see it this works now [v]cat[/v]

[Graendals favourite]

I think Des is probably town.

[Graendals favourite]

Actually largely agree with Lenlo, reading that (aside from myself and Yates). Perhaps he's town now.

[Graendals favourite]

Having said that, [unvote] [v]key[/v]

[dicetosser1]

 

 

I wouldn't necessarily mind having two wagons that are tied and force a rand between them just to see what happens.

Hally vs Lenlo, imo.

 

 

I'm on board with this

 

[unvote]

 

[v]Lenlo[/v]

 

 

 

vote addict.

 

pure gut. for some reason right from the get go i have wanted to do what Clov beat me to. She(?) never answered me when i asked her if she was scum either

Where are you going with bolded? It's an open setup AND she's (supposedly) a newer player, so it's obvious she's not worried about a LD

 

So what scum motivation would she have for not answering that?

 

Looks like fake scumhunting to me

 

[v]Dice[/v] Cause yolo I got short attention span

 

This is a weird line of questioning, imo. I get a joke from the bolded - which would be twice as weird because you were complaining about your humor not getting across earlier. Bringing up LD? As you mention in this post, it is open setup so dice would KNOW there is no LD.

 

That's the point tho- I think Dice was fake scumhunting. I don't think he had the setup in mind and was looking at things with a #solve mindset, I think he just threw that out there cause he thought it would make him look like he was doing stuff.

 

Your defense of Dice is noted tho

 

 

no i wasnt joking. i simply wanted to see addict reply. thats it. i got no reply tho iirc addict did go on to say other stuff.

 

it wasnt fake scumhunting. i legitimately wanted the answer.

 

 

@aj  i saw ure question earlier but couldnt get to reply at work.  i honestly dont know. this restart has thrown me off and im fairly lost. you know what i really wanna vote?  no lynch cause i have no idea

[dicetosser1]

keys recent posts have me thinking shes town. shes very different then she was when scum with me in avengers.

[dicetosser1]

ya know what?" its time for bed im not gonna be here for DL cause its like 1 in the morning my time so total YOLO vote.

 

 

vote GF

[Yates]

I'm ok with pressuring GF to post. But lynching him is a coin flip on the alignment and says nothing about anyone else in the game, imo.

[Andrej]

Official Vote Count 3?

 

 

Len (2/7): AJ, TG

Key (3/7): Yates, Despot, GF

Des (2/7): Key, Clov

GF (3/7): Hally, Lenlo, Dice

 

 

Not Voting (1/12):

BFG

 

13 hours til night.

This should be current.

 

I'm okay with the lead wagons. I prefer Key over GF here though.

[Andrej]

3 hours.

[Yates]

 

Official Vote Count 3?

 

 

Len (2/7): AJ, TG

Key (3/7): Yates, Despot, GF

Des (2/7): Key, Clov

GF (3/7): Hally, Lenlo, Dice

 

 

Not Voting (1/12):

BFG

 

13 hours til night.

This should be current.

 

I'm okay with the lead wagons. I prefer Key over GF here though.

 

Key or Clov should unvote and vote Len imo. XD

[Andrej]

Haha I agree.

 

Not to bash cause apparently it was super hard for Len to post that, but I wasn't really impressed with the reads.

 

I also think the bit about how he almost posted his essay is a bit overdone and makes it feel less genuine to me.

[Yates]

I don't know wth GF and BFG are doing in this game. I'm very disappointed that neither cares enough about this game or this Town or respects the hard work Darthe has put into this broken setup enough to put in any effort. Unless they are both scum, they should feel bad about their performance and need to recognize how critical their input is in a game with no real investigative roles [seer is 0 value, imo].

Screw it. Imma go make some Watermelon Angel Cakes and drown my sorrow/disappointment in diabetes.

[BFG]

On mobile during lunch break, intermittent internet connection.

 

I don't think the GF votes have much basis and don't like Yates vote on Key after he said he liked Lenlo Hallia trains, however his other postsseem reasonable

 

Conflicted read on Lenlo, His early play was reminiscent of Take 1, but, I don't hate his reads post, except he listed Key, Dice, TG and GF as mafia leans in his main text, forgot about Key in summary and voted GF because he didn't like her play style, as opposed to actual reason for being mafia. seems more like a policy vote than an actual read to me, now GF did have one vote, compared to Dice or TG, but Key had two already, so this doesn't really add up to me.

 

[v]Lenlo[/v]

 

Sorry, rest of reads willhave to wait till I'm home