[Standard] Cory vs. Bad Dietary Habits & Laziness Mafia, Mafia Sweep

[TheSlenderMan]

I'm allowed to make a farewell post here, ain't I?

 

Good luck, Town. Was fun playing with y'all.

[Tommyrod]

Slender's posts that discuss Pral after N2. I included the possible Arsis peek in blue.

 

 

The other game got AIDS, need to focus on that so my presence will be minimal until ~tomorrow evening (cause I might not have time even for the OTHER game today).

 

Initial thoughts are: feels to me like Scum wants to see a Krak-lynch happening.

 

Pralaya has been wayyyy forgotten about, in comparison.

 

If too many of the people under suspicion yesterday can be PoEd as Town, that probably means that we have a DEEP WOLF.

 

 

[v]Pralaya[/v]

 

 

Underwhelmed, Pral.

 

Don't see a natural train of thought in the order you present things and how you point out things you've (to my recollection) never referred to before.

 

Tom taught me a fun bit of terminology in one game: 'terminating' vs. 'open-ended'. 'Terminating' stances and statements on everything, as in needs to 'close' the discussion/thought that was started for the sake of having contributed and appearing Pro-Town.

 

Seems 'blocky' and artificial is what I'm saiyan'.

 

 

Thanks.

 

Okay Arsis can be TOWN for this Phase. Tbqh I'm dead tired, weekend didn't go like it was SUPPOSED to go at all (good thing real life-wise, bad thing mafia-wise), but I think I'm actually fairly confident about this.

 

Anyone remember what this means wrt the Tallies, off the top of your head? If Arsis and Vos both were non-Mafia, the wagon that got the least attention is the likeliest to have been correct, if even that?

 

If Arsis is Town I remember manbat's voting behaviour atleast is completely null.

 

 

 

 

Completely forgot about Pral. If you wanna see him as scum go find the twilight game. He was a mega lurker.

Well, technically speaking, I had as much posts in that game as I have had in all my games. Lurking isn't a scum tell for me but there are others - i am sure those who have played with me would know them.

Anyway, now caught up to 33 pages now. I have an hour a day, that's about what I can do.

AJ seems to be better than what I had him initially. His suspicions on SP looked genuine.
Talking of SP, I like his soft character claim, much similar to what Tommy said.
Also, like SlenderMans arguments about his targets and whom to vote.
Yates still seems to be playing very careful.

Didn't like this post by Arsis. Seems to be subtly suggesting a vig kill on TG.

I'm not going to vote for tg. I just believe him. I think that tsb is the way to go today. He's scummy.


If tg gets vigged to clear the wifom over the Miller claim. I wouldn't be upset.

So far, by page 33,

Ithi/Turin, Tommy, TG, Despo, SlenderMan for town
Yates, Arsis as scum
Csarmi, AJ, Manbat, Dice, TSB, Krak, Darthe, BodyBurner, SP - null so far

 

Something about this post is ping-y but I can't quite put my finger on it. The nullread on manbat strikes me as Odd at the very least.

 

I don't think manbat's presence was an ignorable one at this point, and manbat was also Voting for Arsis and since that apparently was the reason behind the Townread on me, I feel like there's something missing that a Townie!post would include.

 

 

 

...

 

Yeah if there's a claim it ain't showing in the filter, atleast.

 

GOOD.

 

[vote]Pralaya[/vote]

 

Any real reason I'm missing that says Pral isn't Suspect and shouldn't be Lynched here?

 

 

[v]Pralaya[/v]

 

 

WHELP definitely won't have time for all these pages.

 

If Pral isn't the leading wagon right now, someone should TL;DR me the why behind it.

 

 

Well Turi and Krak probably ARE the second- and third-best alternatives, if Arsis' post just now is true.

 

 

Huh, interesting.

 

If Despot's Vote on Darthe is based on the Krak-vote I don't get it.

 

Especially since Pral is on that 'wagon'.

 

And the Pral-wagon has fizzled out for the umpteenth time in this game.

 

TSB gon' get Modkilled soon, rite? Why even consider CFDing him?

 

 

Well Yates' bit about bizarro-logic is one I've used BUT WHICH HAS FAILED IN SEVERAL ROUNDS IN A ROW so that's understandable imo but not great.

 

Tommy's progression on Pral seemed pretty good D1, the posts also caught my attention Tom just got to be vocal about it first. But Tommy apparently not wanting to see Pral really flip does give me some tinfoils.

 

Yates asking about people's reasoning behind the Town!Tom-read is another thing that I can perfectly understand from the viewpoint of my Modus Operandi.

 

The chain of posts just now was mostly about the bizarro-logic; while I'd like to say that's weird, it's something I remember having done as Town because I Believed I've legit found something that is 'easy' and 'solves' the game.

 

The point about 'storytelling' rather than 'scumhunting' I could see going either way -- depends on Yates' personality and I don't really have a grasp on that?

 

 

Meh, random searching of the Thread actually showed me a quote from Pral which makes me see the PR-thing. Weird.

 

So I guess that has to wait for another day, then.

 

I'd prefer going Turin before Krak, based on Skimming. If Krak has made some damning posts in the last ~20ish pages I ain't seen them though.

 

 

There's still a nagging voice of conscience reminding me that after a D1 like THAT, Pral would have to be prepared to softclaim a PR when entering D2. As Scum AND as a real PR.

 

 

[/unvote]

 

[v]Turin Turambar[/v]

 

Still want to see a Confrontation with Pralaya in the near future. But it might be better for this Day Phase to not be the Conclusion.

 

Leaving my Vote on Turin cause it's gonna be Dead once I'm not around anymore, and if Krak has more Votes currently then switches (if deemed necessary) become more plausible.

 

Also I agree with what Tom said in #3237 but I actually realized that the TSB-read is perfectly in line with the philosophy busy!Turin just gave us -- he wanted to give us a 'binary'-list of reads, so that DOES explain the Krak-bit.

 

The binary-list is odd in itself though, and also Yates/SP are reads that bug me out of that Whole; Turin should still give us More Words on why he felt the need to elaborate on every read BUT Yates and why SP is automatic Town if a setup-Lynch when being a setup-Lynch is actually something that's expected to happen EVERY game, making it a nulltell until further analysis.

 

 

Don't feel really super confident about anything right now.

 

Might be the sickness, though -- real life's gotten me seriously Swamped and I'm considering having to ask for a replacement in all the games I'm in currently. Will make that decision tomorrow after I've gotten some Rest.

 

Arsis still sounds Town-like to me. Lots of little against-the-flow -things that don't fit the impression I got off him in the early game.

The Healer-gambit by Halligeddon was Silly but they're still among the slots I'm most comfortable taking off the suspect pool. Csarmi's Like This as Town if I've profiled him correctly, and I've seen Hallia flip Scum several times and pretty much since this Round started she hasn't seemed Similar.

Tomstress is a slot I'd still like to imagine as Town but I'm starting to see more worlds where it's actually Scum.

Darthe has been underwhelming -- not just the postcount, but the content somehow as well. I haven't been able to follow it as well as I feel I've been able to in some earlier Rounds where he's been Town -- though I can't say that I'd have gotten an expert handle on it ever.

I'm very glad TGlems replaced TSB -- seems like an awesome guy and probably will contribute enough to allow people to read him correctly. Null so far, but that should probably change soon for all of us.

Dice -- plausible Scum. Slightly pinged me when I read the last few pages, seemed kind of cautious to me.

Pral -- I want an open confrontation with him and a lot of Attention on him. Don't want anyone getting free passes just because they've been implying they COULD be a PR when as Mafia the group would be likely to realize Pral is among the likely D2-lynches based on the D1. Tbqh I didn't read his compilation on Yates just now because I physically couldn't. The thing giving me the most second-thoughts about him is actually the Suspect Pool he's arrived to.

Yates -- maybe the Player around whom the most things revolve right now. Could see going either way and I'm not able to articulate any more coherent thoughts in my current state.

Krak -- not as well connected as Yates but other than that very similar thoughts (or a lack of them, to be more precise) -- could see going either way. What Tommy said about the 'wagonomics' yesterday is true and I remember seeing some Town-leaning posts when I was around yesterday, maybe Town gun-to-my-head but DEFINITELY still in the Suspect Pool.

Despot -- well okay I don't really feel like tinfoiling on him, almost at all. Should probably make a compilation of all the people he's pushed, at some point.

 

I realized while writing that that... the whole GAME has actually been full of consensus-y reads. Like, two 'camps' of people and that's about it... Actually makes it easier for Scum to blend in? Need some red fliiiiiiiiips.

 

Manbat gets a Scumread by virtue of me having forgotten he's in this game when compiling this post. Pressure, please.

 

[monstrman]

I think it's a stretch to assume that they killed Slendy to frame pray because you have to make several assumptions beyond the initial assumption that they correctly read him as a cop.

 

Namely that they'd have to have read him as cop, correctly read whoever he did cop, then ALSO read that pray looks bad from the cop flip. Not to mention they'd probably be inclined to press itt that Slendy peek was pray = scum.

 

Seems unlikely and prolly too much paranoia there tbh

[hazelkrs1]

[V]Yates[/v]

[Tommyrod]

I'm allowed to make a farewell post here, ain't I?

 

Good luck, Town. Was fun playing with y'all.

 

GG Slender, was nice to have someone so gung-ho about lunchin woofs.

[Tommyrod]

From his newest post before death:

 

Arsis still sounds Town-like to me. Lots of little against-the-flow -things that don't fit the impression I got off him in the early game.

That language seems like a peek as well.

[SickPuppets]

Time for me to continue this below average game.

Claim time~

Mason. Dice and I. 

[monstrman]

Therewasnoneedtoclaim.gecko

[Tommyrod]

Time for me to continue this below average game.

Claim time~

Mason. Dice and I. 

 

Have you left any hints?

[Yates]

Tommy - those posts suggest Arsis Town. I think Slendy was simply suspicious of Pral.

[SickPuppets]

 

Time for me to continue this below average game.

Claim time~

Mason. Dice and I. 

 

Have you left any hints?

 

 

 

Despot I REALLY think you should change your NA 

Dice also said he soft defended me at some point. 

[Tommyrod]

Tommy - those posts suggest Arsis Town. I think Slendy was simply suspicious of Pral.

This is where I'm leaning as well.

 

So this is all good news. The game is about to be POE'd down. SP and Dice being masons is awesome as far as most bang for your claim buck.

[Tommyrod]

There was no poisoning last night... which is also fun.

[SickPuppets]

Therewasnoneedtoclaim.gecko

 

 

 

 

SP where have you been and why are you only posting now right after deadline

I was here right before as well.

I didn't have anything to say until Des' claim.

Didn't have anything to say eh?

 

 

SP PROVE to me IN YOUR NEXT POST why you can't be scum here or you're getting lynched today and I will MAKE SURE OF IT

 

I would say being pushed for the lynch of the day after being pretty eh this game is enough.

[Yates]

I would like to see a claim from Darthe. I've been trying to engage him on his Yates read for days.

[Arsis]

That was a strange mason claim based on very very little pressure. What's the deal with that?

 

The popped the cop? Had to be a lucky shot. I don't remember any hints. I thought Yates was hinting cop for a while tbh.

 

 

Uhh. No one was poisoned. Can it be blocked? I'd guess the poisoner was 1/x which means... No one else is going to be poisoned. Don't know what it means beyond that.

[Yates]

There was no poisoning last night... which is also fun.

Points to odd night or x-shot. I'm leaning towards a 2nd scum team with odd night kills given two investigative PR's and masons.

[Yates]

I thought Yates was hinting cop for a while tbh.

Really? lol

[hazelkrs1]

I'm fine with the mason claims. Don't see it as fake right now since scum fake claiming mason usually has to be done with much more delicacy, since it ties them together so neatly if it gets screwed up. Happy since it DOES help our POE

 

Tommy just read through the Slendy spew and at first I was thinking the Arsis thing was meh and that it was much more likely he viewed Pray, but you're right the thing in his recent reads list DOES kinda point to him viewing Arsis N1 but also worried he viewed the GF.

[monstrman]

Likely reasons there was no poison tonight:

 

1x poisoner: tbh it would explain why tg didn't get healed because the lack of a town healer without a poisoner would be kinda lol

 

Poisoner was blocked: could have happened but if there is a poisoner and no healer I can't imagine it's unlimited

 

Poisoner has since gone afk: see above

[monstrman]

I should hope there isn't a second scumteam because that would be kinda lol in a 17er.

 

Balance would be what, 2 - 3 a team? I'd be mad on a scumteam that small tbh

[Tommyrod]

 

There was no poisoning last night... which is also fun.

Points to odd night or x-shot. I'm leaning towards a 2nd scum team with odd night kills given two investigative PR's and masons.

 

 

There's no second scum team, this is a "Standard" game. You can PM the mod if you have questions on what Standard entails.

[Arsis]

 

 

 

There was no poisoning last night... which is also fun.

Points to odd night or x-shot. I'm leaning towards a 2nd scum team with odd night kills given two investigative PR's and masons.

There's no second scum team, this is a "Standard" game. You can PM the mod if you have questions on what Standard entails.

REKT!

[monstrman]

I mean two scum teams with even 3 players each means town has virtually no chance of winning with two mislynches down, cop dead, and 12 players remaining

 

2 per scumteam wwould mean half your team is dead if the other team gets a lucky shot.

 

Really doubting it tbh

[hazelkrs1]

Updated POE:

 

Halligeddon

TomsTress

SP

Dice

Arsis

 

TG

Krak

 

Darthe

Manbat

Pray

Yates

 

I believe Dice and SP's claim. Think it's possible Arsis was viewed town but even before that I had him as town.

 

TG and Krak need to resolve themselves to make this POE stronger

 

Speaking of, Darthe you need to claim imo. Only way I believe you'd be town here is if you're Doc.

 

Manbat's last post was lolcattish.

 

Pray on the red's mainly for virtue of it being possible he was viewed as scum, which I think is still a very good possibility. Don't think him and Yates could both be wolves tho.