[Standard] Cory vs. Bad Dietary Habits & Laziness Mafia, Mafia Sweep

[Arsis]

Csarmi I have a question. Since town is made up of things that help Cory and what not, isn't it odd that Cory doesn't believe you exist? It should be about how you've helped Cory not how he doesn't think you exist, correct?

To be fair, it fits the overall theme of choice. I wouldn't be surprised to see something like 3/4 hours of sleep on the mafia side if it's not a fake claim.

[SickPuppets]

 

Csarmi I have a question. Since town is made up of things that help Cory and what not, isn't it odd that Cory doesn't believe you exist? It should be about how you've helped Cory not how he doesn't think you exist, correct?

To be fair, it fits the overall theme of choice. I wouldn't be surprised to see something like 3/4 hours of sleep on the mafia side if it's not a fake claim.

 

I understand it fits the theme but everyone is stuff that has helped Cory correct? Isn't it odd then that he doesn't believe they exist then?

[Turin Turambar]

Arsis is LOCK CLEAR Csarmi. Not as blue as you but def in the good side of my POE

 

Pretty sure you're wrong about TI. This has happened in the past- people are so used to seeing me tunnel on Turin that they ignore me when I'm right

First, you are not right on me this game. Secondly maybe you should look in the mirror as to why you have less credibility in calling me mafia.  

 

 

I'm not ignoring you.

 

I know I caught Turin as scum before when his tone and focus had some particular edge to it. It was in a BT game I'll look it up and let's compare.

 

Maybe ignore isn't the right word- more like disregard

 

Like "Oh, Despot and Turin are arguing again. They must both be town "

 

This is Despo setting up that EXACT argument for if he manages to lynch me. I flip town and he spins it as T v. T 

 

 

Vos' latest post pretty much confirmed my earlier gut read.  I just don't see him being scum. 

 

 

Despo did a good case on Turillian and that's where I'm leaving my vote.  Ithi's disinterest is telling imo.

 

This could be distancing. Will get to Turin's response later. Krak keeps deferring to my case on them. Krak leaving his vote on them DOES look good tho, if they are scum, considering the wagons are so close, so mebbe it's not distancing after all. Could also be scum!Krak following me on town!TI

 

You are mafia teammates so of course he is following you. 

 

 

 

 

 

Anyone wanna CFD Pralaya?

CFD...?

 

 

Chinese fire drill. Start a new wagon. Like so:

 

[unvote]

 

[v]Pralaya[/v]

 

Oh, what's the deal with Pralaya? I've seen a few votes on him before by you and others but why?

 

 

I feel like Pral is easy lynch bait. Not going there today.

 

 

Usually Tom switching votes with little reason so close to deadline doesn't bother me, but trying for a CFD on Pral without dropping a solid reason right away doesn't sit well with me right now.

 

 

Didn't have that much against Pray before but 3 people I find questionable all defending him @ EOD looks pretty bad for him

 

Don't think they would ALL as scum be defending him, but still

 

So how is it Pralaya's fault if SP, Yates, and Krak are defending him. You have stated many many times that it is the defenders not the defendee that are to be looked at. Then you make your entire argument meaningless with the last wishy washy statement. This is MafDespo.  

 

 

 

Vos' latest post pretty much confirmed my earlier gut read. I just don't see him being scum.

 

 

Despo did a good case on Turillian and that's where I'm leaving my vote. Ithi's disinterest is telling imo.

This last is,a wolf claim. Looks like krak is still following old mafia talking points. Also Despo look bad IMO for bailing at deadline.

 

 

 

Noticeable difference in the way Turin responds to Krak here and how he responded to AJ when AJ said something similar

 

Also LOLOLOLOL @ Turin trying to say I was bailing at the deadline. LAWLZ.

 

Tell me again how Turin is ever town here anyone?

 

First I have decided NOT to get aggressive about the way people talk about Ithi or myself. It gets me off track which may be a reason it keeps happening. It is part of the little book of Mafia Darthe that he will say things to get her/me emotionally invested in something not directly in the game. Especially when we both have limited time available. See, I'm off track again. 

 

Krak saying that was a wolf claim. At that time Ithi was out of the game. She had given a valid reason to be away and Krak CHOSE to spin it as disinterest(it is somewhat ironical since Krak had just returned from a 5 DAY absense himself which was not mentioned prior to the fact) Ithi was not disinterested, she was and is dealing with complex and difficult situations. Again to misrep that is disinterest is a straight up wolf claim. (I still think it is scummy also but that is another matter)

 

You did bail before EOD. You even admitted it. Not because you were sick or traveling or had the world coming down around you but because your wife came home and you couldn't play anymore. 

 

Deal with it because I am town. 

[TheSlenderMan]

SO how did the ISO-feature work here again?

[TheSlenderMan]

Filtering all posts by a single Player, in other words.

[csarmi]

Search button in top right corner. If you click on it without filling it, you get an advanced screen. You fill exact poster name etc.

 

@SP - I don't think I understand your question

But its actually Key who isn't sure I exist.

[TheSlenderMan]

Thanks.

 

Okay Arsis can be TOWN for this Phase. Tbqh I'm dead tired, weekend didn't go like it was SUPPOSED to go at all (good thing real life-wise, bad thing mafia-wise), but I think I'm actually fairly confident about this.

 

Anyone remember what this means wrt the Tallies, off the top of your head? If Arsis and Vos both were non-Mafia, the wagon that got the least attention is the likeliest to have been correct, if even that?

 

If Arsis is Town I remember manbat's voting behaviour atleast is completely null.

[Turin Turambar]

Tommy, I just wish I didn't feel so confused for the most part. I'm still new at this, and I don't want to let the other half of the hydra down. >.< Or Town. The acronyms confuse me. And I'm still trying to keep track of who is in the game and who is hydras with whom.

 

I have a notebook next to me, but I'm tired. Long hours today and tomorrow. :(

Noob card played. Meri, why do you feel it worse to let TG down more so than Town? That bit of phrasing looks very odd to me. The Town part seems to be a throw in. 

 

 

Tommy, pretty sure it's well-established fact that Cory is under the influence. :)

 

Arsis, let me get back to you. That post was gut-feeling so far, aside from Turillian. I'm working on compiling notes (in those notes is your suggestion, whether joking or not I have not yet determined, that I'd be a good target for a vig-kill). But it'll be on pause till I eat dinner.

 

Reason I am voting Turillian, is because he's the clearest I've got at this time.

Vigging a Miller is a thing. I didn't pull it out of my butt. A lot of people get caught up on the wifom of it and can't get over it. Plus scum use it as a good opportunity to hide by pushing Miller for town cred. So while I agree that you're a Miller and shouldn't be lynched. IF we have a vig and he wants to clear the wifom I wouldn't be upset. I wasn't even advocating it as much as saying that it's a thing and I wouldn't be mad like I would a regular townie.

 

Arsis mentioned more than once I think that he would be happy for a vig to eliminate TG/Meri. I know there is a reason to do it. I do think it is still better to lynch so that everyone has to take a stance, even if the stance is to stay away altogether. By lynching the Miller claim we get everyone's opinions before the flip which can be quite telling.

 

Ok. Been able to skim a few posts via email at work.

 

Quick thought before I crash for the night: the fact that I got poisoned actually makes me wonder whether Turillian might be Town. He would know that doing something bad to me would reflect on himself given that that hydra is the one I've felt sure about all along in this game. My question is, is the poisoner Town or mafia? If mafia, going after me would not make sense, UNLESS Turillian is Town and someone is attempting to make them look bad.

Anything that makes you think I might be town would be a step in the right direction. You might even take it another step and ask why would I put so much time and effort into continuing to decry you guys as mafia when it has been so unpopular? (the answer is because I believe you are mafia)

 

The poisoner could be any alignment. If town then they could be questioning TG enough to take the shot just to remove WIFOM. 

If independent then they could be trying to set up a VIG claim. make it a 2x or so to make it understandable why there are not a lot of extra deaths. IF mafia then that would most likely make you town, but it could also be a gambit to either clear the poisoner or to clear you guys. you manage to get healed, the poisoner gets lynched, most would put you as lock town.  

Meri I do not get AT ALL where you made the connection between Turin and the Poisoner

 

Like I think they're scum big time yet I still don't see where you see an evident connection

 

WHY do you think Turin would have poisoned you, or that you would have been poisoned to make Turin look bad? I have no idea where you're coming from with that

Despo playing the noob card now, for himself. LMAO. or maybe it is just mafia denials. Then the second line which is a setup to go to "WHLEP, mebbe you were right about that"

 

BOLD: Like mafia NEVER would do  a thing like that? Never a NK that was intended t put another player in a bad light. 

 

Crazy idea alert: What if the poisoning IS the mafia kill and the dog is the vig/SK. That might fit flavor a bit better. Dogs do the wackiest stuff. Bad things in a sense would be poisoning Cory in his attempt to get healthy. Which would make GleMeri Town barring some sort of odd redirection thing. I am serious in when I said I thought that Standard was essentially Basic with a few wrinkles thrown in. The MOD has cleared me up on that to an extent, which included a lot of PAFO. 

 

Back to the game

Despo, can you rehash why you think TI are scum?

 

Bullet points, some reasoning. Just a clear, not very long argument without a single quote. Thank you.

Did this happen? I don't think so.

 

 

Meri I do not get AT ALL where you made the connection between Turin and the Poisoner

 

Like I think they're scum big time yet I still don't see where you see an evident connection

 

WHY do you think Turin would have poisoned you, or that you would have been poisoned to make Turin look bad? I have no idea where you're coming from with that

 

I was saying I didn't think Turillian and the Poisoner were connected. >.< But it seems to me that if the Poisoner is playing for Town, then he/she could be taking care of two birds with one stone by removing me and casting suspicion on Turillian.

 

I could be completely off I guess.

 

Town  should NEVER take an action that will cast suspicion on another player unless they have mechanical information that backs it up. That would be like derp faking a dream that results in a town loss. If a town player did in fact poison you, then it was because they either: 1. didn't believe your claim, or 2. thought that eliminating the WIFOM surrounding you was worth it. 

 

FWIW, I am not the poisoner. I could see Arsis being one. If not him then I would be much more thinking that it was a mafia/3rd party that did it to make Arsis look bad since he was the one that voiced the support for vigging you guys.  

 

 

Salami has claimed healer and asked if you should be healed yes

Town healer means 3rd party/scum poisoner.

 

Town healer/town poisoner doesn't make sense.

 

I'd say heal them. At worst we get hallisalami clear as a sunny day.

 

This post seems to suggest that he isn't the poisoner either. Unless he is maf/maf with GleMeri and it is a full on gambit. 

 

The way I've seen it done in the past is both scum and town get a poisoner and town has a healer. So scum tries to poison a wolfy villager so that the townie doesn't know which one to heal.

 

Poisoning TG is just such an odd choice for the main mafia faction. Poison ME, at least. Don't poison TG. He claimed miller. Scum doesn't kill millers. So I would guess the poisoner is third and this is a WF-esque game that Cory designed and we have like 2 or 3 indies. I don't know if a poisoner SK even make sense though, so maybe the poisoner is scum and they thought either TG was getting cleared by people too easily due to his claim or thought he was lying? I don't know, but something's stupid about this situation if we do have a healer.

Which makes this post very bad to me. It is going over the top to say that there is NO WAY mafia would poison GleMeri. Then turns it around to say that if mafia did poison them that it was because they were right or faked it as town???

 

I think the last reads sort of like mafia that might be upset about their kill being able to be blocked after the fact. But there is no evidence that it is possible as of yet. 

 

 

My vote would be to let them die. I think they are mafia. We need the truth in this manner.  Meri, when is TG due back BTW? 

 

 

And yes I know that there are too many different ways this plays out and that all of my suspects cant be mafia. 

 

Leaving TG/Meri to the side as they are poisoned I am thinking that mafia is still to be found in 

 

Krak

Despo

Darthe

Arsis

Tommy

Yates

 

in that order. 

 

Pral really does frequently have trouble  turning his opinions into lynches. I saw that when we were masons/lovers in the Sherlock Holmes game.

Dice is still looking pretty good to me.

Slender and Manbat also

TSB needs to be replaced

SP is null I don't see the people that are finding him to be sure mafia. My endorsement probably gets him more heat so sorry about that. 

Csarmi apparently is claiming healer so he is off the table. I have them no worse than null anyway.

 

vote KRAK

[TheSlenderMan]

 

Completely forgot about Pral. If you wanna see him as scum go find the twilight game. He was a mega lurker.

Well, technically speaking, I had as much posts in that game as I have had in all my games. Lurking isn't a scum tell for me but there are others - i am sure those who have played with me would know them.

 

Anyway, now caught up to 33 pages now. I have an hour a day, that's about what I can do.

 

AJ seems to be better than what I had him initially. His suspicions on SP looked genuine.

Talking of SP, I like his soft character claim, much similar to what Tommy said.

Also, like SlenderMans arguments about his targets and whom to vote.

Yates still seems to be playing very careful.

 

Didn't like this post by Arsis. Seems to be subtly suggesting a vig kill on TG.

 

I'm not going to vote for tg. I just believe him. I think that tsb is the way to go today. He's scummy.

 

 

If tg gets vigged to clear the wifom over the Miller claim. I wouldn't be upset.

So far, by page 33,

 

Ithi/Turin, Tommy, TG, Despo, SlenderMan for town

Yates, Arsis as scum

Csarmi, AJ, Manbat, Dice, TSB, Krak, Darthe, BodyBurner, SP - null so far

 

Something about this post is ping-y but I can't quite put my finger on it. The nullread on manbat strikes me as Odd at the very least.

 

I don't think manbat's presence was an ignorable one at this point, and manbat was also Voting for Arsis and since that apparently was the reason behind the Townread on me, I feel like there's something missing that a Townie!post would include.

[Tommyrod]

Thanks.

 

Okay Arsis can be TOWN for this Phase. Tbqh I'm dead tired, weekend didn't go like it was SUPPOSED to go at all (good thing real life-wise, bad thing mafia-wise), but I think I'm actually fairly confident about this.

 

Anyone remember what this means wrt the Tallies, off the top of your head? If Arsis and Vos both were non-Mafia, the wagon that got the least attention is the likeliest to have been correct, if even that?

 

If Arsis is Town I remember manbat's voting behaviour atleast is completely null.

 

The counterwagons were Turin and Halliageddon who has since claimed Healer. It's possible those were ALL town wagons so scum gave zero poops about what was happening -- which would match what I felt was the low level of wolfy pull at EOD. But currently it looks like the only wagon that might have been scum is Turin.

[TheSlenderMan]

Oh right, also I'd LIKE to see TG Healed here.

[TheSlenderMan]

Wasn't there a short-lived Pralaya-wagon too, Tom?

[Tommyrod]

Wasn't there a short-lived Pralaya-wagon too, Tom?

Yeah Pral is the cop though.

[TheSlenderMan]

Really now. Missed TWO claims, way terr go Slendayh.

[TheSlenderMan]

[/unvote]

[TheSlenderMan]

[unvote]

 

A sufficiently Derp continuation to the above.

[Tommyrod]

He didn't claim that. I'm messing with you.

[Tommyrod]

Official Vote Count:

 

Arsis (3) - TheSlenderMan, manbat, dice

GleMeri (1) - TI

TI (2) - Despothera, GleMeri

SickPuppets (4) - Andrej, Halligeddon, Arsis, Yates

manbat (1) - Tomstress

 

Not Voting (6): everyone else

 

With 17 alive, it takes 9 to lynch!

 

Deadline: Thursday, 9pm EST

 

 

Well, you don't get post numbers (because I don't see the point since you can't see them on mobile), SP, but you can have links. You're just lucky I had some time this morning *g*.

 

Official Vote Count:

 

Arsis (2) – manbat , dice

GleMeri (1) – TI

TI (2) – Despothera, GleMeri

SickPuppets (3) - Halligeddon , Arsis, Yates

Pralaya (2) – Tomstress, AJ

Nervositee (1) – TheSlenderMan

 

 

Not Voting (6): everyone else

 

With 17 alive, it takes 9 to lynch!

 

Deadline: Thursday, 9pm EST    (see post below or click on link for countdown).  

 

 

Official Vote Count:

 

Arsis (3) – manbat , dice, Pral

GleMeri (1) – TI

TI (3) – Despothera, GleMeri, AJ

SickPuppets (3) - Halligeddon , Arsis, Yates

Pralaya (1) – Tomstress,

Nervositee (1) – TheSlenderMan

 

 

Not Voting (2): everyone else

 

With 17 alive, it takes 9 to lynch!

 

Deadline: Thursday, 9pm EST.

 

 

 

Some vote counts but there are big gaps.

 

I notice that Arsis votes came pouring in from Pral, Turin and Darthe all around the same time. I'll grab those.

[TheSlenderMan]

...

 

Yeah if there's a claim it ain't showing in the filter, atleast.

 

GOOD.

 

[vote]Pralaya[/vote]

 

Any real reason I'm missing that says Pral isn't Suspect and shouldn't be Lynched here?

[TheSlenderMan]

[v]Pralaya[/v]

[Tommyrod]

Well, you don't get post numbers (because I don't see the point since you can't see them on mobile), SP, but you can have links. You're just lucky I had some time this morning *g*.

 

Official Vote Count:

 

Arsis (2) – manbat , dice

GleMeri (1) – TI

TI (2) – Despothera, GleMeri

SickPuppets (3) - Halligeddon , Arsis, Yates

Pralaya (2) – Tomstress, AJ

Nervositee (1) – TheSlenderMan

 

 

Not Voting (6): everyone else

 

With 17 alive, it takes 9 to lynch!

 

Deadline: Thursday, 9pm EST    (see post below or click on link for countdown).  

 

 

[unvote]

 

[v]Turin[/v]

 

Wagonomics time!

 

 

Pral who would you suggest for top wagons today and why

 

 

Arsis or Yates.

 

Guess I had said that before.

 

 

[v] Arsis [/v] on that note.

 

From what I have caught up so far (around 35 pages), he comes across as being too concerned for what people talk against him and trying to influence actions on others. In the few games I have played with him, he seems care-free in the first few days and that tone is missing in this game.

 

Yates, I guess, I have talked about him in my earlier posts.

 

 

At first I was going to say "What'd I miss" and then shut up and let the game flow a bit.  Then I read a couple of pages and decided to go on a rant about not lynching Tommy based on him not doing what you expect him to do as town OR scum because that's, ya know, stupid.  Then I thought about how incredibly obvious Arsis is making it that he wants to self preserve (read the above) and it made me chuckle that he isn't consensus scum in this game.  Then I said to myself, Ya know... A more inspired individual would go back and read through the game and see who is keeping Arsis from taking off.  I bet that's really solid D1 info, even if he flips town since he is obviously getting lynched this game.  

 

So I decided to tell you all and let you go do it while I solve Arsis' issue with voting.  

 

[v] Arsis [/v]

 

Also gonna point out that both Manbat and Dice look really clean so far so Arsis train looks solid sans Laya who is in the perfect spot for a bus if one is needed.  Gooooood data ITW (In this wagon).

 

 

My reads at present:

 

CS/Hallia are town.

Yates is mafia. This is a lean.

AJ is mafia. I think he is trying to help arsis stay away from the lead with his recent vote jumps. Why the Darthe vote?

Arsis is mafia. Agree with slender and Darthe about their thoughts.

SP is town. I think he is a setup lynch.

Krak is town. Really null and needs to post more.

Manbat is town. This is a lean. I have no bad comments for him.

Vos is mafia. Really didn't like that post.

Darthe is town. Same as manbat.

Tsb is town. Null actually. He needs to get back in the game. He knows about it so play.

TI is town.

Pralaya is town. This is a lean. He needs to get caught up or some semblance thereof.

Slender is town. I feel good about what he has said so far.

Dice is town. This is also a lean but fairly solid.

TG/Meri is mafia. I gave my reason already.

Despo is mafia.

TomTress is mafia. This is a lean. Tress made an odd comment in her read on us. Something like wanting us to spend more time on something other than TG. I don't see how that post comes from a townie that thinks I'm mafia.

 

Anyway there you go. I need to get started to.my day. May not be around at dl.

 

[unvote]

[V] Arsis[/v]

 

Willing to switch back to any of my other mafia reads to consolidate.

 

 

Official Vote Count:

 

Arsis (4) – manbat , dice, Pral, Darthe,

TI (3) – Despothera, GleMeri, AJ

SickPuppets (1) - Yates

Pralaya (1) – TheSlenderMan

Tomstress (1) - Arsis

AJ (3) - Halligeddon, Tomstress, TI

Not Voting (4): everyone else

 

With 17 alive, it takes 9 to lynch!

 

Deadline: Thursday, 9pm EST.

 

 

3 Arsis votes from questionmark players within an hour, for the pace of this game that's prety significant. Turin immediately hopped onto AJ once Salami and I started giving AJ a hard time, let's see who Turin ended up on.

[dicetosser1]

 

 

Completely forgot about Pral. If you wanna see him as scum go find the twilight game. He was a mega lurker.

Well, technically speaking, I had as much posts in that game as I have had in all my games. Lurking isn't a scum tell for me but there are others - i am sure those who have played with me would know them.

 

Anyway, now caught up to 33 pages now. I have an hour a day, that's about what I can do.

 

AJ seems to be better than what I had him initially. His suspicions on SP looked genuine.

Talking of SP, I like his soft character claim, much similar to what Tommy said.

Also, like SlenderMans arguments about his targets and whom to vote.

Yates still seems to be playing very careful.

 

Didn't like this post by Arsis. Seems to be subtly suggesting a vig kill on TG.

 

I'm not going to vote for tg. I just believe him. I think that tsb is the way to go today. He's scummy.

 

 

If tg gets vigged to clear the wifom over the Miller claim. I wouldn't be upset.

So far, by page 33,

 

Ithi/Turin, Tommy, TG, Despo, SlenderMan for town

Yates, Arsis as scum

Csarmi, AJ, Manbat, Dice, TSB, Krak, Darthe, BodyBurner, SP - null so far

 

Something about this post is ping-y but I can't quite put my finger on it. The nullread on manbat strikes me as Odd at the very least.

 

I don't think manbat's presence was an ignorable one at this point, and manbat was also Voting for Arsis and since that apparently was the reason behind the Townread on me, I feel like there's something missing that a Townie!post would include.

 

 

Slender I would have expected Pral to have a read on me, csarmi and AJ by that point.

[Tommyrod]

Either Turin and Pral are masons or they're scum together, and if they're masons I'd like a claim to get that over with.

[Tommyrod]

Official Vote Count:

 

Arsis (5) – manbat , dice, Pral, Darthe, TheSlenderMan

TI (2) –  GleMeri, AJ

SickPuppets (1) - Yates

Tomstress (1) - Arsis

AJ (2) - Halligeddon, TI

Nervositee (2) - Des, Tomstress

Not Voting (4): everyone else

 

With 17 alive, it takes 9 to lynch!

 

Deadline: Thursday, 9pm EST.

 

 

 

Stopped at delivery only have a few moments for sure.

 

Right now I'm a bit torn between AJ and Vos. I think they could be wolf/wolf with the stances on each other they have given. Further if Vos is mafia which I am reading him strongly as then by rule of threes one of me, AJ and Despo are also. I know it isn't me.

 

AJ, why did you discount the Arsis votes in the vc you posted. He was in front but you said it was between you and me. From here it looked like a shot at pushing me when I couldn't respond. Also the way you tried to preemptively spew yourself as town based on a mafia Vos flip stinks.

 

Vos. You put out that you didn't like me going after the miller claim on d1. But then you say he must be lynched. Why not today? You also put it out that you think he is likely town but want to.lynch him. Not good.

 

[unvote]

 

[V] Vos[/v]

 

@Despo, I meant I would consolidate on people in my list. Meaning I will not consolidate on a town read.

 

 

 

Official Vote Count:

 

Arsis (5) – manbat , dice, Pral, Darthe, Halligeddon

TI (2) –  GleMeri, Arsis

SickPuppets (1) - Yates

Nervositee (5) - Des, Tomstress, TheSlenderMan, AJ, TI

 

Not Voting (4): everyone else

 

With 17 alive, it takes 9 to lynch!

 

Deadline: Thursday, 9pm EST.

 

 

The problem I have with this is basically once people started acquiescing on Arsis, like Des and I both calling him town, Turin immediately gave up on lynching Arsis despite Arsis being his top scum lean before AJ became a wagon. Now it's all about AJ and Vos -- but AJ wasn't a real wagon, yet clearly Arsis still was.

 

What gives? Turin called both me and Des scum, so why would he suspect Arsis LESS after we hard cleared him?

 

No bueno.

[Tommyrod]

My reads at present:

 

CS/Hallia are town.

Yates is mafia. This is a lean.

AJ is mafia. I think he is trying to help arsis stay away from the lead with his recent vote jumps. Why the Darthe vote?

Arsis is mafia. Agree with slender and Darthe about their thoughts.

SP is town. I think he is a setup lynch.

Krak is town. Really null and needs to post more.

Manbat is town. This is a lean. I have no bad comments for him.

Vos is mafia. Really didn't like that post.

Darthe is town. Same as manbat.

Tsb is town. Null actually. He needs to get back in the game. He knows about it so play.

TI is town.

Pralaya is town. This is a lean. He needs to get caught up or some semblance thereof.

Slender is town. I feel good about what he has said so far.

Dice is town. This is also a lean but fairly solid.

TG/Meri is mafia. I gave my reason already.

Despo is mafia.

TomTress is mafia. This is a lean. Tress made an odd comment in her read on us. Something like wanting us to spend more time on something other than TG. I don't see how that post comes from a townie that thinks I'm mafia.

 

Anyway there you go. I need to get started to.my day. May not be around at dl.

 

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[V] Arsis[/v]

 

Willing to switch back to any of my other mafia reads to consolidate.

 

 

Yep. I'm the crazy uncle that only drinks tea and goes on and on about Downtown Abbey.

 

I'm not trying to impress you. I could give two mushrooms about that. People have mentioned.me as a possible consolidation lynch and I won't be about for parts of the day. You can look at my list after I'm lynched if that is your choice. Or not. Have fun.

 

How funny would it be if all the mafia were in that group? I think I would just retire from the game.

 

 

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[V] AJ [/v]

 

 

Safest lynch =/= most likely to catch mafia. If you think I am mafia say why please. As you have said I am safest or most likely in your view but haven't caught up yet what are you basing your view on? Your stance looks like you got cliffs on the QT.

 

Question at the risk of being told I'm stupid and crazy, with no real consensus choice, why would it be bad to lynch the claimed.Miller? Just asking.

 

Now I need to set off.

 

 

Stopped at delivery only have a few moments for sure.

 

Right now I'm a bit torn between AJ and Vos. I think they could be wolf/wolf with the stances on each other they have given. Further if Vos is mafia which I am reading him strongly as then by rule of threes one of me, AJ and Despo are also. I know it isn't me.

 

AJ, why did you discount the Arsis votes in the vc you posted. He was in front but you said it was between you and me. From here it looked like a shot at pushing me when I couldn't respond. Also the way you tried to preemptively spew yourself as town based on a mafia Vos flip stinks.

 

Vos. You put out that you didn't like me going after the miller claim on d1. But then you say he must be lynched. Why not today? You also put it out that you think he is likely town but want to.lynch him. Not good.

 

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[V] Vos[/v]

 

@Despo, I meant I would consolidate on people in my list. Meaning I will not consolidate on a town read.

 

 

Pralaya, what is your reasoning for suspecting Darthe and TSB?

 

These posts are in order. It's definitely weird. I would suspect someone with his level of paranoid to be much more vocal about the Arsis wagon dissipating -- due to people he said are mafia.