[Advanced] Woodstock 1969 Mafia - Town wins

[Andrej]

Yeah I can holster but there's no point now imo.

 

We're down to 4 suspects. Might as well clear them as quickly as possible. If they are town at least they died with me?? Idk - make it sound valiant.

[csarmi]

Totally lying BTW. AJ's negative utility changes the picture so it makes no sense to keep up the lie.

 

I started the hinting tonight to confuse scum a middle out of their simple action sequence. That was obviously before I saw TG's slip and modkill - it doesn't make sense anymore.

 

I'm vanilla town.

[csarmi]

*a little out of

 

also i claimed vanilla last night to wifom them hard, i did that already TWICE (i WAS TELLING THE TRUTH THEN), HOPED THEY'D WASTE SOMETHING ON ME CAUSE THEY KNOW i'M SLIMY THAT WAY

[Andrej]

I wouldn't advise shooting Des ever in this game.

 

Remember on like pg 8 where I said Tom/Des probably town/town.

 

Yeah.

[csarmi]

twice as in other games and most know that

[hazelkrs1]

Okay my spew analysis of TG-

 

I think he spewed DT as town. Soft pushed him for a bit, didn't do it in the same fashion that he bussed his other teammates

 

Tbh I don't think Csarmi is his teammate anymore. I was gonna say to shoot Csarmi anyways since he's a douchenozzle and deserves the shot, but if AJ dies when he targets a townie he def shouldn't shoot Csarmi imo (and it kills me to say that). TG was "townreading" Csarmi for a while and had that weird fos against Dice for chainsaw defending me by attacking Csarmi, which I at first thought was chainsaw defending Csarmi, but after looking over TG's whole iso I think TG was just mega-buddying Csarmi all game. And it worked too apparently, cause he tricked Csarmi.

 

So imo Csarmi confirmed douchenozzle, and NOT a teammate of TG's.

 

Which leaves Krak and BFG. A good case could be made on TG spewing either as his last teammate, buuuuuut Im prob leaning Krak as being it now. He mentioned Krak the least out of my last 3 suspects (Csarmi, BFG, and Krak, I cleared DT based off of TG's soft push before I really got going in the spewhunt), and that early interaction where Krak gets cutesy about the "soulread" thing but TG doesn't respond has me hair raised. The only other two times he mentions Krak is when he soft defends Krak from my meta fos at one point, and when Tommy directly asks TG about Krak TG hedges in his read. As for BFG, he doesn't mention her much either, and only interacts with her like one time, but she didn't have that much thread presence anyways so that could explain why TG doesn't discuss her much. BFG townread TG after some scummy posts that she said looked great, so she's def still a candidate, but eh I'm thinking my meta about Krak was accurate now and that BFG has just been a bit off her game.

[Thane Vakarian]

Yeah I can holster but there's no point now imo.

 

We're down to 4 suspects. Might as well clear them as quickly as possible. If they are town at least they died with me?? Idk - make it sound valiant.

 

"If you're town, and AJ shoots you, he hasn't done so on purpose. He's hunting for the scum, and we all know, that in certain times, sacrifices have to be made"

[hazelkrs1]

Dice is spewed even harder Town after his "Hey AJ - shoot TG post" lol

 

ily DiceGOAT

 

Dice is the person other than me that TG spews as town the hardest- look at ANY of his posts pushing on Dice. All based off the most BS of reasons. Mostly says early on that I "spewed" Dice as my teammate, and I even mentioned much earlier this game that that looked incredibly scummy on TG's part since I hadn't even flipped yet, "spew" only works once you have a known scum flip to go off of

 

Yeah I can holster but there's no point now imo.

 

We're down to 4 suspects. Might as well clear them as quickly as possible. If they are town at least they died with me?? Idk - make it sound valiant.

 

Honestly there's only two suspects imo. DT is spewed as town for the way TG pushed him (TG had already bussed Lenlo and Darthe, and I don't think he was pushing at DT in a distancing/bussing manner, and after looking at everything in context TG was almost assuredly mega-buddying Csarmi all game, not defending a teammate

 

So the only two targets are BFG and Krak imo

 

Totally lying BTW. AJ's negative utility changes the picture so it makes no sense to keep up the lie.

 

I started the hinting tonight to confuse scum a middle out of their simple action sequence. That was obviously before I saw TG's slip and modkill - it doesn't make sense anymore.

 

I'm vanilla town.

 

Csarmi confirmed douchenozzle

 

I wouldn't advise shooting Des ever in this game.

 

Remember on like pg 8 where I said Tom/Des probably town/town.

 

Yeah.

 

AJ you're awesome btw. I'm also just gonna say this-

 

I think you're a better mafia player than me. You hide better as scum and make better against the grain reads as town. We're both pretty good in the scumhunting department, and I was onto TG before you were so I'll pat myself on the back there, but dude you rock.

[Andrej]

Thane I'm glad you're reading like such a happy soul right now.

[Thane Vakarian]

i'm a happy little soul, indeed AJ. Glad you read me town nearly from the start.

 

With the suspect list this small, i will reveal:

 

i am Grace Slick of Jefferson Airplane, town Doc

[hazelkrs1]

So yeah basically I think Tom should Cop Csarmi, to make sure I'm not wrong about him

 

AJ should Vig Krak, who I think is actually the more likely teammate of TG's after spewhunting, and I've said for a while now that Krak's behavior this game (more active and involved) fits his scum meta more than town

 

If the game is still going tomorrow and Csarmi aint scum, we lynch BFG

 

BING BANG BOOM

 

If we follow this script I see 0% chance of the game not being over by tomorrow at the latest

[hazelkrs1]

i'm a happy little soul, indeed AJ. Glad you read me town nearly from the start.

 

With the suspect list this small, i will reveal:

 

i am Grace Slick of Jefferson Airplane, town Doc

 

Thane I'm proud of you this game as well. You still had very safe reads to start, but you held your ground early on after being attacked, and while soft claiming a PR was a REALLY bad idea as Doc, it ended up not blowing up in your face so meh

 

But you had townie reactions to everything that happened in thread and kept trying to discuss things you felt important, which made it very easy to read you as town

 

Ftr, I figured if there was a Doc, you were it, so I didn't wanna go overboard in townreading you too much since I wanted scum to forget about your PR hint, but yeah I had you as LOCK CLEAR for a while

[Tommyrod]

I agree with the above but I really want Krak to be town because this is the only game I've ever seen him try hard lol

[Tommyrod]

I would shoot BFG and cop salami

[Tommyrod]

Thane I called you a dumb dumb because I saw you basically Hardclaim doc by accident

[csarmi]

Hmm.

 

Doc, Bodyguard, Cop, Vig, Deputy Cop is way too much town power even vs GF+RB/JOAT+RoleCop+Goon. Something's missing here!

[Tommyrod]

Yeah it's a lot of town power I agree. But the cop and vig both have the "negative utility" spin

[csarmi]

I think Krak and Dice are town.

 

BFG may just be the mafia and if she is, I'm sad for her. I'm pretty sure she just wasn't active enough cause of the things she said (she would be busy) and that didn't enable her to play this well.

[Thane Vakarian]

this time, i'm glad that at least the townsfolk knew who i was without me saying it outright. And now you know why i didn't want to claim D1, that would've been a bad idea.

 

and i have a negative utility too.... every PR has i think

[hazelkrs1]

I agree with the above but I really want Krak to be town because this is the only game I've ever seen him try hard lol

 

Krak should play his town game like he plays his scum game, but alas this is not the case from my experience. He did a good job with his posts this game, made them look very believable as coming from a townie, but my spewhunt def leads me to believe Krak is TG's last teammate.

 

I would shoot BFG and cop salami

 

Thing is if AJ shoots wrong apparently he dies- so because of that Krak is the safest choice

 

TG bussed the crap out of Lenlo and Darthe after reviewing his iso

 

Doubt he would bus/distance his last teammate

 

And as a general rule of thumb, when spewhunting look for the people they barely mention or interact with, you'll often find the teammates that way

 

BFG wasn't that active period so TG not mentioning her much doesn't stand out that much

 

Krak was absurdly active compared to his norm yet TG mentioned him even less

 

Pretty telling stuff right there

[csarmi]

BTW this confirms AJ as town beyond a doubt. He posted this negative utility and he can't evert wiggle out of that as SK... so he can NOT be SK.

[Tommyrod]

Okay. I can buy that Des

[Tommyrod]

BTW this confirms AJ as town beyond a doubt. He posted this negative utility and he can't evert wiggle out of that as SK... so he can NOT be SK.

Yeah oh and also the SK wouldn't shoot scum N1 after a D1 scum lynch

[hazelkrs1]

I think Krak and Dice are town.

 

BFG may just be the mafia and if she is, I'm sad for her. I'm pretty sure she just wasn't active enough cause of the things she said (she would be busy) and that didn't enable her to play this well.

 

I think you're town now so your reads confirmed suck this game

 

Krak was convincing in his posting, even had my gut saying he was town, but I'm very confident that he is the last scum

 

Dice has been town for a while and TG spews him town to ridiculous levels

 

BFG wasn't active and didn't seem to have great insights like she will normally have, but she did at least put in work with the wagonomics. I think BFG was busy and not scum.

[Tommyrod]

^ that was meant to sound snarky