Freemasons vs. Illuminati - LOOKING FOR ONE MORE PLAYER, QUICK GAME

keyholder21 · September 16, 2014

LOL. Sometimes I actually DO have to work you know.
Real quick question; would you have posted when you did if I hadn't said anything? Or was it a coincidence that you and Clov both spoke up right after?

Same question for Clov, I guess.

I actually had been trying to post in the game for almost an hour. First month assignments are due this week though, and I'm on reference so I've been in and out of my office helping people.

Yates · September 16, 2014

I actually had been trying to post in the game for almost an hour. First month assignments are due this week though, and I'm on reference so I've been in and out of my office helping people.

I can't tell if that's a yes or a no??

Andrej · September 16, 2014

http://www.dragonmount.com/forums/topic/87219-basic-the-matrix-game-over/?p=3141125

This is the only one I've been able to find so far on this board and it was from a game several pages back so maybe a bit outdated. TG was town here though and I actually was mafia which makes it funny. It's not recent evidence so perhaps a bit ~null but it still proves that even TG has 'justified' his joke votes.

Will continue looking through some games on the others boards as well but for now I think I would very much enjoy seeing TG take the drop this game. I'm just really not buying that he sees any real value in over analyzing RVS votes and I dislike how he focused on semantics and immediately turned aggro towards me when responded to about it. Like I'm still baffled he handled my singular statement in the way he did.

Clovdyx · September 16, 2014

LOL. Sometimes I actually DO have to work you know.
Real quick question; would you have posted when you did if I hadn't said anything? Or was it a coincidence that you and Clov both spoke up right after?

Same question for Clov, I guess.

Question 1) I would have. It was the first substantial issue in the thread.

2) I don't know. I would assume it's a coincidence, but I can't rule out that she was waiting for somebody else to post so she could piggyback off them.

Close, Key, aj... Your scum team ladies and gentlemen.

I can't tell if you're serious or trolling.

Arsis · September 16, 2014

LOL. Sometimes I actually DO have to work you know.
Real quick question; would you have posted when you did if I hadn't said anything? Or was it a coincidence that you and Clov both spoke up right after?

Same question for Clov, I guess.

Question 1) I would have. It was the first substantial issue in the thread.

2) I don't know. I would assume it's a coincidence, but I can't rule out that she was waiting for somebody else to post so she could piggyback off them.

Close, Key, aj... Your scum team ladies and gentlemen.

I can't tell if you're serious or trolling.

89%

keyholder21 · September 16, 2014

I actually had been trying to post in the game for almost an hour. First month assignments are due this week though, and I'm on reference so I've been in and out of my office helping people.

I can't tell if that's a yes or a no??

I figured it was obvious?

Yes, I would have posted regardless. I'd been trying.

Andrej · September 16, 2014

I don't think TG sticking to his argument is a town tell though @Key

I think in this instance it's better that he attack me instead of trying to push a terrible nudge on Len. The justification (heh) of his PoV post reaction is also bad imo.

[v]Yates[/v] cause he's slimy!

[v]Despot[/v] cause he's emo!

[v]Arsis[/v] cause he's got meat for brains!

[v]BFG[/v] cause she's a Brit!

[v]FishDyx[/v] cause Semper Fi!

Now do these really mean anything? No. TG implying it does is bad and he should feel bad because he should know better. I don't think he's responded to me constructively at all. I'm still unsure how his "AJ is confirmed scum" read came from.

[v]TG[/v]

Yates · September 16, 2014

Why does everyone think I'm slimy? :mad:

I have really nice skin because I'm not an animal and I MOISTURIZE.

Clovdyx · September 16, 2014

LOL. Sometimes I actually DO have to work you know.
Real quick question; would you have posted when you did if I hadn't said anything? Or was it a coincidence that you and Clov both spoke up right after?

Same question for Clov, I guess.

Question 1) I would have. It was the first substantial issue in the thread.

2) I don't know. I would assume it's a coincidence, but I can't rule out that she was waiting for somebody else to post so she could piggyback off them.

Close, Key, aj... Your scum team ladies and gentlemen.

I can't tell if you're serious or trolling.

89%

All right...can you take this theory and run with it for me? Explain everything like I'm a complete moron. What do you think AJ did originally that was an overreaction, and why does that make him scum?

Arsis · September 16, 2014

LOL. Sometimes I actually DO have to work you know.
Real quick question; would you have posted when you did if I hadn't said anything? Or was it a coincidence that you and Clov both spoke up right after?

Same question for Clov, I guess.

Question 1) I would have. It was the first substantial issue in the thread.
2) I don't know. I would assume it's a coincidence, but I can't rule out that she was waiting for somebody else to post so she could piggyback off them.

Close, Key, aj... Your scum team ladies and gentlemen.
I can't tell if you're serious or trolling.
89%

All right...can you take this theory and run with it for me? Explain everything like I'm a complete moron. What do you think AJ did originally that was an overreaction, and why does that make him scum?

I never said he was scum. Just that I wanted to pressure him a bit. He seemed a bit defensive about some nonsense day 1.

Clovdyx · September 16, 2014

LOL. Sometimes I actually DO have to work you know.
Real quick question; would you have posted when you did if I hadn't said anything? Or was it a coincidence that you and Clov both spoke up right after?

Same question for Clov, I guess.

Question 1) I would have. It was the first substantial issue in the thread.
2) I don't know. I would assume it's a coincidence, but I can't rule out that she was waiting for somebody else to post so she could piggyback off them.

Close, Key, aj... Your scum team ladies and gentlemen.
I can't tell if you're serious or trolling.
89%

All right...can you take this theory and run with it for me? Explain everything like I'm a complete moron. What do you think AJ did originally that was an overreaction, and why does that make him scum?

I never said he was scum. Just that I wanted to pressure him a bit. He seemed a bit defensive about some nonsense day 1.

Oh.

Close, Key, aj... Your scum team ladies and gentlemen.

Okay. Well, you're definitely wrong there. But even going with "I never said he was scum at that point" ... you voted for him. That's not explicitly stating he's scum, but I'd have to assume you think he has a greater than random chance to be. If you still liked his chance to be town DESPITE "being a bit defensive" (still not sure how that is a scumtell), you had no business hopping on the wagon - especially without a word addressing it. That looks opportunistic as hell.

[v]Arsis[/v]

Lenlo · September 16, 2014

Arsis, why did you vote Lenlo, and why did you immediately switch to AJ?

Lenlo is Lenlo. I vote him day 1 every game. It's a thing now.

Everyone else should join the Lynch Lenlo group, btw. We recently experienced a 200% increase in members, making us the fastest growing group on DM!

Question: What does RVS mean?

BFG · September 16, 2014

That moment you realised you forgot to out the oven on (an hour ago!) :dry:

Clovdyx · September 16, 2014

Arsis, why did you vote Lenlo, and why did you immediately switch to AJ?

Lenlo is Lenlo. I vote him day 1 every game. It's a thing now.

Everyone else should join the Lynch Lenlo group, btw. We recently experienced a 200% increase in members, making us the fastest growing group on DM!

Question: What does RVS mean?

~~Reported~~ Random vote stage.

Arsis · September 16, 2014

LOL. Sometimes I actually DO have to work you know.
Real quick question; would you have posted when you did if I hadn't said anything? Or was it a coincidence that you and Clov both spoke up right after?

Same question for Clov, I guess.

Question 1) I would have. It was the first substantial issue in the thread.
2) I don't know. I would assume it's a coincidence, but I can't rule out that she was waiting for somebody else to post so she could piggyback off them.

Close, Key, aj... Your scum team ladies and gentlemen.
I can't tell if you're serious or trolling.
89%
All right...can you take this theory and run with it for me? Explain everything like I'm a complete moron. What do you think AJ did originally that was an overreaction, and why does that make him scum?
I never said he was scum. Just that I wanted to pressure him a bit. He seemed a bit defensive about some nonsense day 1.

Oh.

Close, Key, aj... Your scum team ladies and gentlemen.

Okay. Well, you're definitely wrong there. But even going with "I never said he was scum at that point" ... you voted for him. That's not explicitly stating he's scum, but I'd have to assume you think he has a greater than random chance to be. If you still liked his chance to be town DESPITE "being a bit defensive" (still not sure how that is a scumtell), you had no business hopping on the wagon - especially without a word addressing it. That looks opportunistic as hell.

[v]Arsis[/v]

Oh, you're scum. Why didn't you just say so. [unvote]

[v] clov[/v]

dicetosser1 · September 16, 2014

@key Sarm is short for Sarmation Knight. Im in the Band of the Red Hand here on DM and am the current leader of the bands Cavalry section. The cav have 3 orders....Templars, Arthurians and Sarmations. Considering this is a Freemason illuminatee game i cant claim templar cause im not one but i will bring Sarm in. Is me RPing a bit basically i guess

game

Going after Len for saying its for the lulz is reaching imo. people do it all the time as AJ just showed.

@clov while AJs responses have been on point I am a little concerned because they feel too extensive if that makes sense.

BFG · September 16, 2014

Morning!

^^ Who is the Sarm?

/game

[v]Lenlo[/v]

goes to check rules

Def agree with rule #2. Funnily enough, I think I upset some people the last game I modded by not requiring unvoting. I always looked at scum pulling the "didn't unvote" ploy as a bit outside the core of the game.

[unvote][v]AJ[/v]

What was the point in 'checking the rules', commenting on not needing to unvote and then voting anyway?

I'm saying 'for the luls' doesn't sound like justification to me. Obviously I saw the post if I'm able to comment on it.

You're reaching imo and your vote on me now is for what? Potentially skimming? Lol

Looking shaky right now bro.

[v]TG[/v]

Confirmed shook ITT.

I really just don't follow the thought process. Len goes from being 'vote worthy' for supposedly justifying his RVS (which I don't see) to turning on me for... what?

Why did Lenlo vote? "For the lulz". Giving a reason for the joke vote is the very definition of justification. AJ, the fact that you're waffling on this, saying you saw it but it didn't really look like it, but that maybe you were potentially skimming isnt' a good look. And then you retort but wait for Yates to vote me before taking action?

AJ conf scum.

I'm not waffling on anything. I said plainly that I don't see Lenlo over justifying his vote. Your immediate response is "Really?!" and turn around to vote me with some commentary about how I couldn't see it.

I saw the post. I disagree with your conclusion and have said as much with "you're reaching imo"

Also vote order is a crap argument. In this situation I think you would've tried turning it in either situation so whatever. I was contemplating a vote but wanted you to respond first but with Yates down to clown I figured I might as well add to the pressure.

Since when are you not willing to early tone read people's OPs? Reaching on Lenlo? Sure, it was a page into the game. You jumping in on it about a tone read? That isn't the AJ I know.

Can you define what you mean by a tone read? Cos you said you voted Lenlo for the justification, that doesn't seem to fit into tone.

Yo

Doin the whole "game thread in the signup thread" thing, huh? Cool.

[v]Lenlo[/v]

I see with you, Arsis and TG around the Lynch Lenlo cult is still going strong. Makes me glad.

Im also glad to see that my ploy to kickstart the game by joke voting Arsis D1/Pg1/Post1 is going well. Yup entirely planned. No one can say otherwise.

Early deflection.

It looks like he's saying "joke vote" is your justification, Len. I'm not looking forward to 4 pages of this semantic argument so there it is.

While I agree that "for the lulz" isn't a reason reason, it *is* - technically speaking - a "justification." Saying "Vote X - for the lulz" is different from simply saying "Vote X." It's similar but it *is* subtly different. And mafia is a game of subtly. So, I'm actually okay with his line of questioning even if I think he's chasing shadows, personally.

[v]Lenlo[/v]

goes to check rules

Votes - THEN checks rules.
Obv Scum play, bro.

[v]TG[/v]

I don't get this, you agree with TG's line of questioning on Lenlo yet are voting him for checking the rules?

Wait this is a serious argument? Im confused as to why you think thats justification TG, for what was a joke vote. "For the lulz" isnt an argument for anything nor is it justification. I dont need justification for a joke vote. Its the equivalent of me going "Hey Arsis remember that game you were a survivor? I do. With love."

Defensive, what do you think about TG/AJ?

Arsis, why did you vote Lenlo, and why did you immediately switch to AJ?

Lenlo is Lenlo. I vote him day 1 every game. It's a thing now.

Aj seemed to need a little bit of pressure on him. Look at how he overreacted to a tiny bit of pressure. What do you think that means?

What do you think it means?

http://www.dragonmount.com/forums/topic/87219-basic-the-matrix-game-over/?p=3141125

This is the only one I've been able to find so far on this board and it was from a game several pages back so maybe a bit outdated. TG was town here though and I actually was mafia which makes it funny. It's not recent evidence so perhaps a bit ~null but it still proves that even TG has 'justified' his joke votes.

Will continue looking through some games on the others boards as well but for now I think I would very much enjoy seeing TG take the drop this game. I'm just really not buying that he sees any real value in over analyzing RVS votes and I dislike how he focused on semantics and immediately turned aggro towards me when responded to about it. Like I'm still baffled he handled my singular statement in the way he did.

I like the effort you put in here.

LOL. Sometimes I actually DO have to work you know.
Real quick question; would you have posted when you did if I hadn't said anything? Or was it a coincidence that you and Clov both spoke up right after?

Same question for Clov, I guess.

Question 1) I would have. It was the first substantial issue in the thread.
2) I don't know. I would assume it's a coincidence, but I can't rule out that she was waiting for somebody else to post so she could piggyback off them.

Close, Key, aj... Your scum team ladies and gentlemen.
I can't tell if you're serious or trolling.

89%

All right...can you take this theory and run with it for me? Explain everything like I'm a complete moron. What do you think AJ did originally that was an overreaction, and why does that make him scum?

I never said he was scum. Just that I wanted to pressure him a bit. He seemed a bit defensive about some nonsense day 1.

If you wanted to pressure AJ why are you backing off so easily?

Clovdyx · September 16, 2014

LOL. Sometimes I actually DO have to work you know.
Real quick question; would you have posted when you did if I hadn't said anything? Or was it a coincidence that you and Clov both spoke up right after?

Same question for Clov, I guess.

Question 1) I would have. It was the first substantial issue in the thread.
2) I don't know. I would assume it's a coincidence, but I can't rule out that she was waiting for somebody else to post so she could piggyback off them.

Close, Key, aj... Your scum team ladies and gentlemen.
I can't tell if you're serious or trolling.
89%
All right...can you take this theory and run with it for me? Explain everything like I'm a complete moron. What do you think AJ did originally that was an overreaction, and why does that make him scum?
I never said he was scum. Just that I wanted to pressure him a bit. He seemed a bit defensive about some nonsense day 1.

Oh.

Close, Key, aj... Your scum team ladies and gentlemen.

Okay. Well, you're definitely wrong there. But even going with "I never said he was scum at that point" ... you voted for him. That's not explicitly stating he's scum, but I'd have to assume you think he has a greater than random chance to be. If you still liked his chance to be town DESPITE "being a bit defensive" (still not sure how that is a scumtell), you had no business hopping on the wagon - especially without a word addressing it. That looks opportunistic as hell.

[v]Arsis[/v]

Oh, you're scum. Why didn't you just say so. [unvote]

[v] clov[/v]

So rather than actually address concerns, your response is to immediately vote me without giving any explanation. You're not giving me any reason to think I'm wrong about you.

BFG · September 16, 2014

Top bit at TG should be unvoting

BFG · September 16, 2014

TG gets some townie points for starting the game with his vote on AJ, will be interested to see where he goes with it, and I want to understand his definition of tone reading, but slight town read.

AJs reaction seems town at the moment, a little concerned that he's not commenting on other stuff at the moment.

Clov looks good to me at the moment

Lenlo also seems quite self focused at the moment

Arsis looks bad for his 'pressure' vote on AJ followed by the quick retreat.

BFG · September 16, 2014

And feel better Hallia <3

BFG · September 16, 2014

[v]Arsis[/v]

Arsis · September 16, 2014

[unvote]

[v]Arsis [/v]

Lynch Clovdyx tomorrow when I flip town.

Arsis · September 16, 2014

Someone asked me why I'm backing off aj. Because his teammates aj us going to get me lynched and I'm not good enough at the game to defend myself.

Arsis · September 16, 2014

Someone asked me why I'm backing off aj. Because his teammates clov us going to get me lynched and I'm not good enough at the game to defend myself.

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